>>>The presence of Irish communities of this sort in places like Detroit, Rochester, Utica, and Buffalo, as well as in Canadian communities, suggests that many of those immigrants had come via Canada; they are therefore unlikely to appear on shipping lists.<<< This isn't neccessarily so - my gr-grandparents came from Longford to Buffalo. They arrived in New York, with several of her siblings. My gr-grandmother's sisters' families stayed in New Jersey. Two brothers went further west to Chicago. All of them arrived in New York. Kathy