Thank you very much indeed Mike that looks most helpfull. Can I just clarify? are you saying Longford is Southern Ireland? June ----- Original Message ---- From: mike <michael.mertle@comcast.net> To: irl-longford@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 31 December, 2007 8:36:31 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Cartronbore Longford Cartronbore - Stone Circle in Ireland (Southern) in Co. Longford Alternate Name: Granard http://www.destinations-uk.com/ireland.php at this site go down the page and click on Longford it is mentioned in the narative from the Longford county library site CARTRONBORE Cartronbore B. S. Sketch Cartún Bhóthair, cartron of the road. Cartronbore J. 0'D. Corkillin & Cartron Bower Down Survey On the road from Granard to Finnea in Co. Cavan, 1½ mile N.E. of the Moat of Granard. Contains 226a. 3r. 28p Is all under tillage and pasture, and contains several farm houses, etc. There is a small circle of stones, called the Druid's Circle, to the S. of the road to Finnea hope this helps Mike -------Original Message------- From: June Capstick Date: 12/31/07 13:36:27 To: irl-longford@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Cartronbore Longford Hi Nancy, thank you for replying and I hope Pete visits to read my message. thankyou for the observation re upper and lower, I'll keep looking Have a good new year! regards June ----- Original Message ---- From: "ngray.phale@att.net" <ngray.phale@att.net> To: irl-longford@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 31 December, 2007 6:08:39 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Cartronbore Longford Hi June, I can't actually help you with "Cartronbore," although Pete Schermerhorn, at least sometimes a subscriber to this list, is your best bet. He seems to be able to find any location, however obscure. However, there are two townlands somewhat to the east of Drumlish called Cartron Upper and Cartron Lower, so these may have some connection with the place you are looking for. Good luck with your research. Nancy Gray -------------- Original message from June Capstick <junecapstick1@yahoo.co uk>: -------------- > Good evening > > I am new to family history in Ireland and hav'nt done any research for at least > 6 years now and have got out of the swing of things so please bear with me > I have just discovered which birth certificate belongs to my Great Granny and > I'm very excited about it! > I have been trying to find a map of where she lived but I'm now wondering if > there is such a place and maybe its the name of a house. > It's CARTRONBORE , Longford, Granard > > Has anyone any information on this place please? > > I do realise most people will be out celebrating tonight so I won't expect a > speedy reply :) > Happy New Year to you all! > > June > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! For Good > http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ > ********************************** > Longford Genealogy Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ********************************** Longford Genealogy Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ ********************************** Longford Genealogy Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1203 - Release Date: 12/30/2007 11:27 AM . ********************************** Longford Genealogy Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com
What I sent you was copied from WEB sites, so I would assume the author of that quote was from British Northern Ireland or at least wished to distinguish from the Republic of Ireland So from that point of view yes Longford is in Southern Ireland.(not a very common term) However, geographically looking at the entire Island, Longford is slightly above the geographical center of the entire island, including the Northern Ireland counties. Mike -------Original Message------- From: June Capstick Date: 01/01/08 06:02:00 To: irl-longford@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Cartronbore Longford Thank you very much indeed Mike that looks most helpfull. Can I just clarify? are you saying Longford is Southern Ireland? June ----- Original Message ---- From: mike <michael.mertle@comcast.net> To: irl-longford@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 31 December, 2007 8:36:31 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Cartronbore Longford Cartronbore - Stone Circle in Ireland (Southern) in Co. Longford Alternate Name: Granard http://www.destinations-uk.com/ireland.php at this site go down the page and click on Longford it is mentioned in the narative from the Longford county library site CARTRONBORE Cartronbore B. S. Sketch Cartún Bhóthair, cartron of the road. Cartronbore J. 0'D. Corkillin & Cartron Bower Down Survey On the road from Granard to Finnea in Co. Cavan, 1½ mile N.E. of the Moat of Granard. Contains 226a. 3r. 28p Is all under tillage and pasture, and contains several farm houses, etc. There is a small circle of stones, called the Druid's Circle, to the S. of the road to Finnea hope this helps Mike -------Original Message------- From: June Capstick Date: 12/31/07 13:36:27 To: irl-longford@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Cartronbore Longford Hi Nancy, thank you for replying and I hope Pete visits to read my message. thankyou for the observation re upper and lower, I'll keep looking Have a good new year! regards June ----- Original Message ---- From: "ngray.phale@att.net" <ngray.phale@att.net> To: irl-longford@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 31 December, 2007 6:08:39 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Cartronbore Longford Hi June, I can't actually help you with "Cartronbore," although Pete Schermerhorn, at least sometimes a subscriber to this list, is your best bet. He seems to be able to find any location, however obscure. However, there are two townlands somewhat to the east of Drumlish called Cartron Upper and Cartron Lower, so these may have some connection with the place you are looking for. Good luck with your research. Nancy Gray -------------- Original message from June Capstick <junecapstick1@yahoo.co uk>: -------------- > Good evening > > I am new to family history in Ireland and hav'nt done any research for at least > 6 years now and have got out of the swing of things so please bear with me > I have just discovered which birth certificate belongs to my Great Granny and > I'm very excited about it! > I have been trying to find a map of where she lived but I'm now wondering if > there is such a place and maybe its the name of a house. > It's CARTRONBORE , Longford, Granard > > Has anyone any information on this place please? > > I do realise most people will be out celebrating tonight so I won't expect a > speedy reply :) > Happy New Year to you all! > > June > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! 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Mike and June, Interesting that you bring up the term "Southern Ireland." I have found it used a lot in census and other materials from about 1915 to 1940. My parents (born 1912) were always very careful to say we were from SOUTHERN Ireland. Undoubtedly it was to distinguish us from Northern Ireland and before the term "Republic of Ireland" was widely used. An interesting parallel: My paternal grandmother's family (CREAMER) came from Ireland to Canada (PEI) in 1820. My dad and his siblings were born in B.C. then moved to the US (Oregon). The census records for Oregon are very careful to give their place of birth as "ENGLISH Canada." What's in a word?? Dave Myers of the Pacific Northwest At 07:08 AM 1/1/2008, mike wrote: > What I sent you was copied from WEB sites, so I would assume the author of >that quote was from British Northern Ireland or at least wished to >distinguish from the Republic of Ireland > >So from that point of view yes Longford is in Southern Ireland.(not a very >common term) > > However, geographically looking at the entire Island, Longford is slightly >above the geographical center of the entire island, including the Northern >Ireland counties. > >Mike > >-------Original Message------- > >From: June Capstick >Date: 01/01/08 06:02:00 >To: irl-longford@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Cartronbore Longford > >Thank you very much indeed Mike that looks most helpfull. Can I just >clarify? are you saying Longford is Southern Ireland? > >June > > >----- Original Message ---- >From: mike <michael.mertle@comcast.net> >To: irl-longford@rootsweb.com >Sent: Monday, 31 December, 2007 8:36:31 PM >Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Cartronbore Longford > >Cartronbore - Stone Circle in Ireland (Southern) in Co. Longford >Alternate Name: Granard > >http://www.destinations-uk.com/ireland.php >at this site go down the page and click on Longford it is mentioned in the >narative > >from the Longford county library site >CARTRONBORE >Cartronbore B. S. Sketch >Cartún Bhóthair, cartron of the road. > >Cartronbore J. 0'D. >Corkillin & Cartron Bower Down Survey > >On the road from Granard to Finnea in Co. Cavan, 1½ mile N.E. of the Moat >of >Granard. Contains 226a. 3r. 28p >Is all under tillage and pasture, and contains several farm houses, etc. >There is a small circle of stones, called the Druid's Circle, to the S. of >the road to Finnea > >hope this helps >Mike > >-------Original Message------- > >From: June Capstick >Date: 12/31/07 13:36:27 >To: irl-longford@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Cartronbore Longford > >Hi Nancy, >thank you for replying and I hope Pete visits to read my message. thankyou >for the observation re upper and lower, I'll keep looking > >Have a good new year! > >regards >June > > >----- Original Message ---- >From: "ngray.phale@att.net" <ngray.phale@att.net> >To: irl-longford@rootsweb.com >Sent: Monday, 31 December, 2007 6:08:39 PM >Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Cartronbore Longford > >Hi June, > >I can't actually help you with "Cartronbore," although Pete Schermerhorn, at >least sometimes a subscriber to this list, is your best bet. He seems to be >able to find any location, however obscure. However, there are two >townlands somewhat to the east of Drumlish called Cartron Upper and Cartron >Lower, so these may have some connection with the place you are looking for. > >Good luck with your research. > >Nancy Gray >-------------- Original message from June Capstick <junecapstick1@yahoo.co >uk>: -------------- > > > > Good evening > > > > I am new to family history in Ireland and hav'nt done any research for at >least > > 6 years now and have got out of the swing of things so please bear with me > > > I have just discovered which birth certificate belongs to my Great Granny >and > > I'm very excited about it! > > I have been trying to find a map of where she lived but I'm now wondering >if > > there is such a place and maybe its the name of a house. > > It's CARTRONBORE , Longford, Granard > > > > Has anyone any information on this place please? > > > > I do realise most people will be out celebrating tonight so I won't expect >a > > speedy reply :) > > Happy New Year to you all! > > > > June > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! 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