Hi Dave, Great to have you as a Latin 'reference'. My father was disappointed, to say the least, when I elected to take French rather than Latin in High School. Taking a look at the first marriage ceremony it looks like the witnesses were: Patrick Fehely and Anna Reynolds Taking a look at the wording in second marriage ceremony and comparing it with the wording in the first ceremony: ...the wording is exactly the same EXCEPT for an addition at the END of the record which reads "dispensation(e?) obli??" and ...the witnesses were: Charles M?Cann and Bridget Hughes. I think that the theory that there was a relationship between the Kelagher and Hughes family is a strong possibility. I don't know this but I could be (GUESS) that Bridget Hughes in the second marriage may have been the mother or aunt of James Hughes who knew more than James was 'privy' too concerning family relationships. Yes, conjecture, but very interesting stuff. Thanks for the help, Charlie King gg grandson of James Hughes and Bridget Kelagher of Co. Longford Father David wrote: Hi Charlie, You came to the right guy. I not only speak Latin fluently (with myself), but also taught it in high school (1960's). Patricio is a guy: Patrick. Anna is a gal. Carolo is Charles. Was it Charles McCann? A "casulo/casulum" is a "case" like a "legal case." The dispensation issue would have been the legal case. If there was "newly discovered evidence" after the initial marriage that, without the dispensation, would have rendered the marriage invalid, they would have had to get the dispensation and then do the marriage over again. Soooooo... maybe there were two marriage ceremonies, 4 days apart. Probably the second one would have been very simple, just to "correct" the first one, and they used the first two witnesses they could find (or, witnesses whom they could trust not to divulge the original error. ?????) Do you think the groom, James Hughes, could have been related to the second witness, Bridget Hughes? and that she spilled the beans about Bridget Kelagher being their cousin? Such intrigue ! ! David _____________________________________________________________ Click here for the latest quotes on great fixed mortgage loans! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iiglzQMCe6llnk4hbAfzZ8VAzPyj95rnz0VFuDXF8gr1204GY/