Hi Charlie, You came to the right guy. I not only speak Latin fluently (with myself), but also taught it in high school (1960's). Patricio is a guy: Patrick. Anna is a gal. Carolo is Charles. Was it Charles McCann? A "casulo/casulum" is a "case" like a "legal case." The dispensation issue would have been the legal case. If there was "newly discovered evidence" after the initial marriage that, without the dispensation, would have rendered the marriage invalid, they would have had to get the dispensation and then do the marriage over again. Soooooo... maybe there were two marriage ceremonies, 4 days apart. Probably the second one would have been very simple, just to "correct" the first one, and they used the first two witnesses they could find (or, witnesses whom they could trust not to divulge the original error. ?????) Do you think the groom, James Hughes, could have been related to the second witness, Bridget Hughes? and that she spilled the beans about Bridget Kelagher being their cousin? Such intrigue ! ! David At 03:14 PM 3/19/2008, you wrote: >Hi Dave, >Thanks for the information on dispensations. In this particular >case the marriage between James HUGHES and Bridget KELAGHER took >place on 4 days prior to the dispensation. It may have been that >after the marriage some new information turned up that made the >dispensation necessary. >There were two witnesses to each event: PATRICIO FEHELY and Anna >Reynolds to the marriage and Casolo(?) McCann and Bridget Hughes to >the dispensation. >I will do some more 'spadework' to see if I can find out what the >dispensation might have been. For instance, if I find that Bridget >Hughes was some how related to a Kelagher, then this might suggest >consanguinity. > >Question: Was Patricio Fehely noted above a Patricia or a >Patrick? I and clueless when it comes to Latin. > >Thanks for the help, >Charlie King > > >David wrote: >Hi Charlie, >You're right, I think. Today dispensations are between the priest >and the marriage tribunal and done on paper. We just make a notation >in the record book that the dispensation was granted. The witnesses >are for the marriage itself. I don't know why your dispensation >needed witnesses--- but that was a long time ago. There are other >"dispensations" available. One is from "canonical form" which would >be for a Catholic getting married to a non-Catholic in her >church. Another would be for having the wedding outside a church >building (in the city park, in a hospital bed, SCUBA diving, etc). >I suspect the only way you will know for sure is to review the entire >record book and see if you can come up with some patterns. >Dave > >_____________________________________________________________ >Click for top financial advice. Reduce debt & save for retirement. >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/REAK6ZpP5eB59acqZsrlTbfWKHuyyeUuq80Jb2Ksujh8pCYvO02Cbq/ > > > >********************************** >Longford Genealogy Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message