I'm wondering, Charlie, if by any chance your Catherine HUGHES is the same one who married Nicholas HAGARTY/HEGARTY of Cooleeny, Parish Templemichael, County Longford, in 1805? Their children & baptismal sponsors were, in order of birth: Andrew, 1806; sponsors - Edward & Eliza HUGHES; William, 1808; sps. - Thomas MORAN & Joanna HUGHES; Catherine, 1810; sps. - Jacob BOSTICK & Dorothea HUGHES; James, 1812; sps. - Jacob CUMMINS & Elizabeth MORAN; Nicholas, 1814; sps. - Thomas MORAN & Maria PIERS; David, 1816; sps. - William MORAN & Dorothea MORAN; Brigid, 1819; sps. - Timothy HUGHES & Eleanor ?; Elizabeth, 1820, SPS. - Joannes MURTAGH & Elizabeth MORAN When James HAGARTY/HEGARTY married Barbara DOYLE of Co. Galway, their children were: Catherine Margaret/Marguerite, 1857-1858; Bridget Cecilia (Cecilia was after Barbara's sister), 1860; Mary Francis, 1863; Nicholas James, 1869 It also seems that our HAGARTY/HUGHES line might also include MORAN, if you go by the premise that most baptismal sponsors were family members. What do you think? Thanks, Phyllis :) > >It looks like my Hughes family from Killoe, County Longford, may have used a typical Irish 'naming pattern'. James Hughes and Bridget Kelagher's sons were, in order of birth: >...Owen, James, Francis, and Bernard >their daughters were, in order of birth: >...Catherine, Ann, Ellen, Bridget, Eliza, Marie, and Margaret > >>From this I would think that a GOOD GUESS might be that Owen would be name of the father of James Hughes, and Francis would be the name of the father of Bridget Kelagher >also Catherine would be the name of Bridget's mother. > >Then the system breaks down because Ann and Eliza are between Catherine and Bridget. > >Question: What am I missing here? > >Thanks for the help, >Charlie King >gg grandson of James Hughes >and Bridget Kelagher > >

My great grandparents Eliza Matthews and James Frazer (Frazier) stated on their NY Immigrant Savings Bank application that they were from Longford. I am not sure whether they meant Longford the town or Longford County. They came to NYC separately. Eliza in 1856 age 17 and James in 1852 (no record of arrival) age between 11 and 13. I give this background information because I would like to know how likely was it that persons of the ages stated above who were residents of Longford at time of immigration were also born in Longford. In short did families of this time tend to stay in one place? patricia

I am a ggg grandaughter of Charles Michael Hughes, married to a Sara[h] Smith {Smyth} unsure. Charles had at least one son, my gg grandfather, James, who was born in NY but his wife's obituary said Sarah McKeon (Hughes) of County Longford, Ireland., when she died in NY. James and Sarah had a set of twins (Justin & ??), as well as Peter, Catherine, James, and John Francis (my grandfather). I am trying to find any information I can on either Sarah, her family, or Charles Michael Hughes. If anyone has any suggestions, please help as I am at a brick wall at this point. Thanks. Ronnie ----- Original Message ----- From: <king133@juno.com> To: <irl-longford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:12 PM Subject: [IRL-LONGFORD] Naming Patterns > It looks like my Hughes family from Killoe, County Longford, may have used > a typical Irish 'naming pattern'. James Hughes and Bridget Kelagher's > sons were, in order of birth: > ...Owen, James, Francis, and Bernard > their daughters were, in order of birth: > ...Catherine, Ann, Ellen, Bridget, Eliza, Marie, and Margaret > >>From this I would think that a GOOD GUESS might be that Owen would be name >>of the father of James Hughes, and Francis would be the name of the father >>of Bridget Kelagher > also Catherine would be the name of Bridget's mother. > > Then the system breaks down because Ann and Eliza are between Catherine > and Bridget. > > Question: What am I missing here? > > Thanks for the help, > Charlie King > gg grandson of James Hughes > and Bridget Kelagher > _____________________________________________________________ > Start Email Marketing - fast, affordable, and measurable. Click here. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iieUUUWiBPWT7CYsRaFLtd83qDCeDGjhVThLhcbC5MAuALIBG/ > > > > ********************************** > Griffith's Valuations: > http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For those of you who have County Longford family, the following information may be of interest to you: 1. NICHOLAS DOWDALL , Ballymulvey, Co. Longford - Prender's 1659 Census after lands confiscated because of involvement in Irish Confederacy of the 1640s 2. GEORGE DOWDALL, Gent., Ballymahon, Co. Longford - 1797 Irish Will listed in Vicars Index of Prerogavative of Wills 3. CATHERINE DOWDALL, Ballymahon, Co. Longford, daughter of Francis Dowdall; Obituary from Dennis Ahern's website for Ireland's Old Newspaper Obituraries 4. WILLIAM DOWDALL, Monkstown, County Meath, Member of Parliament for County Longford in the late 1500s or early 1600s. 5. http://members.webone.com.au/~nickred/newspaper/np_abst13.htm Taken from various Irish newspapers: J 1858 7 29 NPM DOWDALL Ansitasia July 28, at Kingstown, Arthur Charles CROKER Esq late HM 77th Regt, youngest son of the late Richard Hare CROKER, Lt-Col 18th Hussars, to Asistasia, only child of HENRY DOWDALL of Dominick street, solicitor and granddaughter of Henry DOWDALL Esq late of Ballymahon, co Longford FJ 1858 7 29 NPM DOWDALL Henry Esq July 28, at Kingstown, Arthur Charles CROKER Esq late HM 77th Regt, youngest son of the late Richard Hare CROKER, Lt-Col 18th Hussars, to Asistasia, only child of Henry DOWDALL, of Domoinick street, solicitor and granddaughter of Henry DOWDALL Esq late of Ballymahon, co Longford Beannachtai, Margaret (Máiread) Armagh, County Armagh January 7, 1845 Old Newspaper Collection PROVIDENTIAL RESCUE.--On Monday week, in the town of Ballymahon, the most providential occurrence took place, owing to the mercy of God, and the vigilance and activity of a police- man named John Thompson. The child of a respectable shop- keeper named Dowdall, was nearly run over by a cart, owing to the carelessness of the driver, when the policeman ran and rescued him from immediate destruction. This is but one of many instances of the usefulness and activity of Thompson. It was he who made prisoner of the pig-jobber for his abuse of her Majesty, on board the packet-boat, and for which our esteemed assistant-barrister sentenced him to six months' imprisonment and a heavy fine. Such meritorious conduct should be rewarded, as an encouragement to others.--Correspondent of the D.E. Packet. The following must be the shopkeeper mentioned in the above article: Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 (County Longford 1854) Dowdall, Francis County Longford Parish - Shrule Location - Ballymahon Town - Main Street

It looks like my Hughes family from Killoe, County Longford, may have used a typical Irish 'naming pattern'. James Hughes and Bridget Kelagher's sons were, in order of birth: ...Owen, James, Francis, and Bernard their daughters were, in order of birth: ...Catherine, Ann, Ellen, Bridget, Eliza, Marie, and Margaret >From this I would think that a GOOD GUESS might be that Owen would be name of the father of James Hughes, and Francis would be the name of the father of Bridget Kelagher also Catherine would be the name of Bridget's mother. Then the system breaks down because Ann and Eliza are between Catherine and Bridget. Question: What am I missing here? Thanks for the help, Charlie King gg grandson of James Hughes and Bridget Kelagher _____________________________________________________________ Start Email Marketing - fast, affordable, and measurable. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iieUUUWiBPWT7CYsRaFLtd83qDCeDGjhVThLhcbC5MAuALIBG/

What was the minimum age of marriage in the first half of the nineteenth century?

age of concent in early 19th century was 12-13 it did not move to 16 until late in 19th century. Think you also have to put it in context of the short life expectancy and that the industrial revolution had not occured, so most people never left the immediate confines of the family home village so the marriages were mostly arranged. As industrial revolution occured people left home or were working in much more public situations so the protection edged up as life expectancy went up and family conrol of the children declined -------Original Message------- From: towit@bellsouth.net Date: 03/27/08 07:50:45 To: IRL-LONGFORD@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-LONGFORD] legal age of marriage What was the minimum age of marriage in the first half of the nineteenth century? ********************************** Griffith's Valuations: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1337 - Release Date: 3/20/2008 8:10 PM .

Thanks for that. Do you have any idea what date that would be? I'm new to Irish research so sorry if it is a silly question! -----Original Message----- From: irl-longford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-longford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of king133@juno.com Sent: 20 March 2008 22:08 To: irl-longford@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-LONGFORD] John Morris of Co. Longford Hi Brenda; There is one John MORRIS in the index to County Longford Tithe Applotments by Rymsza it is: NAME TOWNLAND CIVIL PARISH John Morris....Enaghan.....Killoe Charlie King _____________________________________________________________ Click for top financial advice. Reduce debt &amp; save for retirement. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/REAK6ZpP5eBa1G3BAwAziOjay5L0457z NFNU1ia0xP719lapiD5VGc/ ********************************** Longford Genealogy Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1337 - Release Date: 20/03/2008 20:10 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1342 - Release Date: 25/03/2008 10:26

Kim We already have a similar system in Scotland. The Scotlands People website is a partnership between the General Register Office for Scotland, the National Archives of Scotland and the Court of the Lord Lyon, "enabled" by Scotland Online which is a private company. Scotland Online has just acquired findmypast.com a UK-based family history site, and is planning to amalgamate the two sites. Scotland Online have also won a contract to digitise the England and Wales 1911 Census Records [not too sure about the Scottish 1911 records]. In partnership with the UK National Archives they are hoping to publish most of the 1911 records in 2009. Theoretically these results should not be published until 2012 (a 100 year rule for privacy reasons) but conveniently for them the "Information Commissioner" , a UK Government body, made a decision in 2006 which means that the National Archives must supply some information from the 1911 Census in response to Freedom of Information requests (from the public). This decision will probably allow them to put the information online before 2012. Who needs to pay regard to privacy when there is money to be made? And there is a lot of money to be made for the Government as well as the private sector. Note from the National Archives website: "Government policy is that the 1921 and subsequent censuses should remain closed for 100 years. Unlike the 1911 census the 1921 census was conducted under the 1920 Census Act, which is still in force and which contains a statutory prohibition on disclosure. This means that if any FOI (Freedom of Information) requests are received for the 1921 census, the exemption found in S44 of the FOI Act will be invoked to maintain census confidentiality ". I wonder how long it will take them to amend the 1920 Census Act? This note is also on the UK National Archives site. "You may access the 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891 and 1901 census records free on site at The National Archives in Kew, courtesy of Ancestry.co.uk and 1901Censusonline.com. Please note that standard on site charges for printing paper copies will still apply." Ancestry.co.uk is the UK arm of Ancestry.com. I think they digitised some or all of the England and Wales 1841 to 1901 censuses "in partnership" with the UK National Archives. Rhoda >

If you think of mastheads in terms of numbers, everytime one of TGN mastheads gets clicked on, they make money. If we take down one masthead (move one page) TGN loses that click source of income. They lose not only the one click, but income from hundreds or thousands of clicks that would have followed. So wouldn't it be better for them to make money from clicks from the link logos on our pages, than to offend us who made their business possible, instead of branding us to make money off of our backs, and the backs of our volunteers and contributors? Just a thought donkelly -------------- Original message ----------------------? From: Christina Hunt <filidh@carolina.rr.com> > Yes, this is the US National Archives. > But - tomorrow the world. <G> > Christina > > > | Kim > | > | Which National Archives? Do you mean the USA National Archives? > | UK, Australia etc also have National Archives. I suppose I am > | asking what you mean by "our"? > | > | Regards > | > | Rhoda > | London, UK > | > | ----- Original Message ----- > | From: "Kim V Garvey" <crazyfox1@earthlink.net> > | To: <irl-longford@rootsweb.com> > | Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:12 PM > | Subject: [IRL-LONGFORD] National Archives > | > | > || To List, > || > || This is an active list, so I am sending this post out to as many > || folks as possible to get the word out. > > > > ********************************** > Griffith's Valuations: > http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Kim Which National Archives? Do you mean the USA National Archives? UK, Australia etc also have National Archives. I suppose I am asking what you mean by "our"? Regards Rhoda London, UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim V Garvey" <crazyfox1@earthlink.net> To: <irl-longford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:12 PM Subject: [IRL-LONGFORD] National Archives > To List, > > This is an active list, so I am sending this post out to as many folks > as possible to get the word out. > > In addition, to "merging" the Rootsweb volunteer-contributed data to > Ancestry.com's server (meaning www.rootsweb.com is now > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com), The Generations Network (TGN, the parent > company of Ancestry.com) is trying to push for a long-term partnership > with our National Archives. I will repeat that: our National Archives. > The relationship will allow the following: > > 1. TGN will digitized the majority of our national records. It does not > state that professional archivist or librarians will be doing so. Which > means TGN's employees will be doing so - whose qualifications are quite > unknown. > 2. TGN will be able to sell that digital data. We went though this once > with the ONE record series - the Federal Census Records. Imagine what > multiple record series will be like. > 3. TGN will give copies of the digital data that will be accessible to > the public for free ONLY at the National Archives and Regional centers. > If you want to view these records over the Internet, expect to pay TGN > much more money. > 4. As it does now, The National Archives will provide digital > reproductions of individual records for an ever-increasing fee (see > http://www.archives.gov/research/order/ ). The digital records digitized > by TGN will be included in this reproduction service. > > For my personal comments on the indications of this relationship, please > visit my posting at Rootsweb: > http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ancestry.ancsite/9518.2/mb.ashx > > I realize that Footnote has already partnered with NARA > (http://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2007/nr07-41.html), but > that agreement stipulates free access to these records by 2012. > > There is no such stipulation in the TGN/NARA partnership. > > YOU have a chance to voice your opinion to the National Archives > regarding this proposed agreement. Please go to > http://www.archives.gov/comment/tgn-preamble.html to send an email to > the National Archivist before the agreement goes into place. > > Thanks for your time and attention in this matter, > > Kim V. Garvey > > ps....please pass this information and links along to all interested > parties. > > ********************************** > Griffith's Valuations: > http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

FYI: I just sent this message. Thanks for the alert. David -----Forwarded Message----- >From: davidamyers@mindspring.com >Sent: Mar 25, 2008 1:57 PM >To: Vision@nara.gov >Subject: No TGN > >To My National Archives, >Please do not deal with TGN. They are famous for establishing exclusive access to public or private data and then demanding prime payment for access to the records. > I have uploaded personal genealogical information. TGN has purchased the sites and now wants to charge me for access to my own data. Such greed! > > Please do not give TGN any exclusive access to the records that belong to you and me. > Reserve the right for any American to reproduce our records in any reasonable method and publish those records free to the public. > > Thank you for safeguarding my rights! > > David A. Myers > Attorney at Law > Guadalupe, AZ

Yes, this is the US National Archives. But - tomorrow the world. <G> Christina | Kim | | Which National Archives? Do you mean the USA National Archives? | UK, Australia etc also have National Archives. I suppose I am | asking what you mean by "our"? | | Regards | | Rhoda | London, UK | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Kim V Garvey" <crazyfox1@earthlink.net> | To: <irl-longford@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:12 PM | Subject: [IRL-LONGFORD] National Archives | | || To List, || || This is an active list, so I am sending this post out to as many || folks as possible to get the word out.

To List, This is an active list, so I am sending this post out to as many folks as possible to get the word out. In addition, to "merging" the Rootsweb volunteer-contributed data to Ancestry.com's server (meaning www.rootsweb.com is now www.rootsweb.ancestry.com), The Generations Network (TGN, the parent company of Ancestry.com) is trying to push for a long-term partnership with our National Archives. I will repeat that: our National Archives. The relationship will allow the following: 1. TGN will digitized the majority of our national records. It does not state that professional archivist or librarians will be doing so. Which means TGN's employees will be doing so - whose qualifications are quite unknown. 2. TGN will be able to sell that digital data. We went though this once with the ONE record series - the Federal Census Records. Imagine what multiple record series will be like. 3. TGN will give copies of the digital data that will be accessible to the public for free ONLY at the National Archives and Regional centers. If you want to view these records over the Internet, expect to pay TGN much more money. 4. As it does now, The National Archives will provide digital reproductions of individual records for an ever-increasing fee (see http://www.archives.gov/research/order/ ). The digital records digitized by TGN will be included in this reproduction service. For my personal comments on the indications of this relationship, please visit my posting at Rootsweb: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ancestry.ancsite/9518.2/mb.ashx I realize that Footnote has already partnered with NARA (http://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2007/nr07-41.html), but that agreement stipulates free access to these records by 2012. There is no such stipulation in the TGN/NARA partnership. YOU have a chance to voice your opinion to the National Archives regarding this proposed agreement. Please go to http://www.archives.gov/comment/tgn-preamble.html to send an email to the National Archivist before the agreement goes into place. Thanks for your time and attention in this matter, Kim V. Garvey ps....please pass this information and links along to all interested parties.

That's ok, hope you sort your problems out soon. It's very kind of you to look things up for me and there is no rush! Brenda -----Original Message----- From: irl-longford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-longford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of conaught2 Sent: 20 March 2008 23:24 To: irl-longford@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Census question HI Brenda, I have to apologize because I can't look the information up today. My computer was on it's last leg and it had to be replaced. I have been hearing about the nightmare of the new operating system Vista and have tried to postpone getting the new computer. Unfortunately I have to do the income tax and had to get a new one. My daughter has been transferring files etc all week and it is a MAJOR HEADACHE!. Most of the software on the old computer will not work on the new one because of Vista. I purchased the new version of Family Tree Maker but now the CDs I have for it won't work. The Griffith's Valuation, Tithes Applotment, Spinning Wheel Premium List and many more CDs are not working. I have to call and have a horrible feeling I will have to replace them all thanks to Bill Gates and Vista. It will take about a week before I can get you the information. Hopefully somebody else on the list might have the Griffith's Valuation Index CD by Broderbund. Beannachtai, Margaret (Máiread) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bren" <bren@sussexbythesea.demon.co.uk> To: <irl-longford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Census question Hi Margaret, The name I am researching in Longford is Morris. My ggg grandfather was called John Morris and was born in 1800 in Longford. Unfortunately that is all I know. I think he was probably a Catholic but I'm not totally sure. He grew up to be a whipmaker but I don't know if that was a family trade. Thank you very much for your help. Brenda -----Original Message----- From: irl-longford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-longford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of conaught2 Sent: 20 March 2008 12:40 To: irl-longford@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Census question Hi Brenda, Many of the older records no longer exist. To answer your earlier question about whether your relative was referring to Longford the town or county, it is difficult to say. From what I have found over the years, is that immigrants usually listed the largest town closest to their own townland. My Grandfather Smith was born in 1858 in Brackloon, Swinford, County Mayo, but yet he told his children he was from Swinford. My Grandfather Dowdall (born 1884) from County Derry was very precise and made his children learn his address - Ballygruby, Moneymore, County Derry, Irleand. What are the names you are researching? The names can be checked against the Griffith's Valuation Index to see what area they came from, hopefully it isn't a name that is located throughout County Longford. "Irish Records", by James Ryan lists each county and what records are available for that county. For church records he divides the information by religions and then lists the years the records are available and where they are located. Some church records are available through the National Library and the LDS Family History Center, while others are still under local control. It is intereseting that David was able to obtain church records from the 1780s and 1790s because in Ryan's book for the Civil Parish of Abbeylara he states the earliest marriage records are from 1855 and for births it is 1822. Previously I thought the information regarding the dates of the records were accurate but David's information gives us hope that if we check the individual parish church we just might get lucky. Most of the census records along with many other irreplaceable records were destroyed in the Four Courts explosion and fire in 1922. The Griffith's Valuation is not a census but is used as a substitute for the mid 1800s. The earliest census is Pender's 1659 Census but it doesn't list everyone. There are various other records for various areas of Longford. The 1796 Spinning Wheel Premium List doesn't list the townlands but the parish. All those who planted 1 acre or more of Flax was given a spinning wheel. The list tells how many spinning wheels the family was given (it was determined by how many acres of flax was planted). Hopefully with the surname it can be determined which parish your relative came from. Beannachtai, Margaret (Máiread) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bren" <bren@sussexbythesea.demon.co.uk> To: <irl-longford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:00 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Census question > Thanks. Can you tell me where I can find records of births in Longford > around 1800, and also any census's? > > Brenda > > I have a general question that hopefully all those that know about Ireland > better than I do will be able to answer! One of my ancestors listed his > birth place on the England 1861 census as "Ireland, Longford". What I > would > like to know is does this mean the town of Longford or is it more likely > to > mean the county? Thanks for your help. > > ********************************** Longford Genealogy Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1335 - Release Date: 19/03/2008 09:54 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. 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Hello Donna Thank you for your message. I'm afraid I know absolutely nothing about Mary Devlin apart from the fact that she was my GG Grandmother. I don't know where in Ireland she was born, nor her date of birth. I suppose I was hoping that someone else on the list would be descended from another child of Miles Reilly and Mary Devlin, Your Bernard or John Devlin could have been a brother of my Mary but who knows? I have my tree on a British site called Genes Reunited and there are 25+ people on there with a Mary Devlin born c1850 on their trees. But, so far, I haven't come across one with the same Mary. Regards Rhoda

I have a DEVLIN line from Ireland, not sure on the county: Rose (Rosanna) MC CLOSKEY DEVLIN. Her husband was either Bernard or John DEVLIN. She was widowed and then she immigrated on the ship "Iowa" from Glasgow, Scotland, to the port of New York, she and her children are listed on the Passenger List for Feb. 25, 1868: Rose Devlin age 45 Mary age 19 Ann (later on census as Hannah) age 17 Cath. age 14 Pat (later on census as Patrick) age 11 Bernard age 7 John age 5 Ellen age 3 She went upstate from New York City to Cohoes, NY, later to Green Island. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "CandROverson" <overson12@btinternet.com> To: <IRL-LONGFORD@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 8:02 PM Subject: [IRL-LONGFORD] New Listing: FEENEY, REILLY, GLANCY, DEVLIN > Hi all > > I am new to the List. My interest is in the FEENEY, REILLY, DEVLIN AND > GLANCY families. > > My Grandmother, Mary Jane FEENEY was born in Granard in 1892, and baptised > in Abbeylara. > She was the daughter of Michael FEENEY born 1868 and RoseAnn REILLY born > c1869. Michael and RoseAnn emigrated to Lanarkshire, Scotland c1899 with > their 6 children. Two further children were born in Scotland. > > Michael FEENEY's parents were Edward FEENEY and Bridget GLANCY probably > born in Co Longford in the late 1830s or 1840s. . > > RoseAnn REILLY's parents were Miles REILLY and Mary DEVLIN again probably > born in Co Longford in the late 1830s or 1840s.. > > Would be pleased to hear from anyone who thinks they could be connected to > these families. > > Rhoda > ********************************** > Longford Genealogy Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rhoda, Thank you so much for the information.   I will try it. Susan  Mulledy -----Original Message----- From: CandROverson <overson12@btinternet.com> To: irl-longford@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 1:37 pm Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Hughes/Kelagher Marriage Dispensation Susan The web address for Scotlands People is: www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk You are charged £6 sterling for 30 credits. It costs 1 credit to look at the indexed results of a search and a further 5 credits to look at an image of a birth, marriage or death certificate. Costs can soon mount up unless you have a clear idea of the year and place of the event; and the names of the people concerned. It is amazing how many people with the same name were born in a wee country like Scotland within the same few years. However if you are successful in finding the correct certificate, you can find out a lot about a person and their background. For example, a birth certificate will give you the time and date of birth, the place of birth, the names of both parents, including the maiden name of the mother, and often the date and place of the marriage of the parents. If the child is illegitimate the certificate will make this clear. A marriage certificate will supply the names of both parents of the bride and groom, including the maiden names of the mothers, and the profession/job of the fathers. Statutory registration began in Scotland in 1855. Before that time, records were maintained in Parish Registers. The information on the Registers is fairly slim, and the handwriting can sometimes be difficult to read. But you can access the images of the Registers on Scotlands People from about 1650 or so onwards. At the moment only Church of Scotland registers are online, but I think that other Protestant church registers and RC registers will be available soon. Rhoda ********************************** Longford Genealogy Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Susan The web address for Scotlands People is: www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk You are charged £6 sterling for 30 credits. It costs 1 credit to look at the indexed results of a search and a further 5 credits to look at an image of a birth, marriage or death certificate. Costs can soon mount up unless you have a clear idea of the year and place of the event; and the names of the people concerned. It is amazing how many people with the same name were born in a wee country like Scotland within the same few years. However if you are successful in finding the correct certificate, you can find out a lot about a person and their background. For example, a birth certificate will give you the time and date of birth, the place of birth, the names of both parents, including the maiden name of the mother, and often the date and place of the marriage of the parents. If the child is illegitimate the certificate will make this clear. A marriage certificate will supply the names of both parents of the bride and groom, including the maiden names of the mothers, and the profession/job of the fathers. Statutory registration began in Scotland in 1855. Before that time, records were maintained in Parish Registers. The information on the Registers is fairly slim, and the handwriting can sometimes be difficult to read. But you can access the images of the Registers on Scotlands People from about 1650 or so onwards. At the moment only Church of Scotland registers are online, but I think that other Protestant church registers and RC registers will be available soon. Rhoda

I am searching for the ancestry of my gr gr grandparents--James Ennis and Elizabeth Crawford They were married in about 1830 in County Longford--Two children were born by them --Margaret and James before they migrated to canada--and on to Scott Cty,Iowa-USA in abt 1850--additional children were born in canada--they were Charles-John-Ann-Edward Thank you for any information you can extend to me John Golden------jgolden12@juno.com