My Grandfather Peter McLoughlin' mother was a Farrell. the information is attached Ancestors of Peter Michael McLoughlin Generation No. 1 1. Peter Michael McLoughlin, born January 10, 1884 in Druming, Ballymahon,County Longford, Ireland; died October 20, 1967 in Worcester, MA. He was the son of 2. John McLaughlin and 3. Mary Farrell. He married (1) Margaret Kenny July 18, 1908 in Worcester, MA. She was the daughter of James Kenny and Elizabeth Cox. Children of Peter McLoughlin and Margaret Kenny are: i. John Edward McLaughlin Sr., born September 21, 1908 in Worcester, MA; died March 11, 1987 in Chatham, MA; married Anna Lillian Maguire July 31, 1940 in Worcester, MA. ii. Peter Michael McLaughlin, born August 11, 1910 in Worcester, MA; died November 05, 1995 in Worcester, MA; married Elizabeth McMorrow October 15, 1945 in Worcester, MA. iii. Elizabeth Gertrude McLaughlin, born December 09, 1911 in Worcester, MA; died February 16, 1991 in Worcester, MA; married John Patrick Kenney October 10, 1942 in Worcester, MA. iv. Margaret Rita Mc Laughlin, born February 11, 1916 in Worcester, MA; died September 12, 1977 in Uncasville, CT.; married Thomas James Sexton September 08, 1946 in Key West, FL.. v. Mary Louise Mc Laughlin, born December 01, 1924 in Worcester, MA; married John Francis Doherty in Worcester, MA.. vi. Anne Marie Mc Laughlin, born July 22, 1928 in Worcester, MA; died November 1980 in Worcester, MA; married Paul Charles Doherty May 02, 1957 in Worcester, MA. Generation No. 2 2. John McLaughlin, born in Ireland; died February 18, 1884 in Ireland. He married 3. Mary Farrell. 3. Mary Farrell, born in Ireland. Children of John McLaughlin and Mary Farrell are: i. Ellen Mc McLoughlin, born 1882. 1 ii. Peter Michael McLoughlin, born January 10, 1884 in Druming, Ballymahon,County Longford, Ireland; died October 20, 1967 in Worcester, MA; married Margaret Kenny July 18, 1908 in Worcester, MA. iii. Teresa McLoughlin, born 1887.

I sugest that you try the parish of Killoe and Edgeworthstown. My gg grandmother was Heslin from Edgeworthstown, however I am do not have much more info. She married my gg grandfsther Farrell from Lisnagh Edgeworthstown and their daughter Anne was my grandmother. They remained in Longford and I am not sure if any siblings emigrated. There are two other people who have Heslin from Killoe roots and have a lot of information- IRED52 and katehanley@erols. Hope this helps.

Hi Ken Your ggrandfather, Bernard Heslin, was not the same as my gggrandfather. He served in the Crimean War, in South Africa and in India at the time of the Indian Mutiny. I have done a lot of detailed work on his military career. Eventually he settled in Birkenhead near Liverpool, England, and his daughter Mary Ann Heslan married John McGrath there in 1870 (on Christmas Day). But undoubtedly both our Bernards were related way back. Were you able to trace a parish for your ggrandfather and get records of baptism? That is what I am trying to do for my Bernard. Any suggestions? Regards Chris McGrath

This is a coincidence!! My GGF's name was Bernard D. Heslin born 1844 Co. Longford. Migrated to the US and married 1876 to Mary Ellen Lomasney in WVa and then migrated to Columbus, OH. My GGF died 1904 Columbus OH. They parented 4 children including my GF John Joseph Heslin born Sept.1, 1885, died May 1, 1968. My father's name was Bernard Joseph Heslin b July 3, 1923, died April 1980. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris McGrath" <chris@cmcgrath.freeserve.co.uk> To: <IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [LONGFORD~] McLoughlin > Although my gggrandfather's name was written as Bernard Heslan I'm sure that > "Heslin" is the same name. He was born c 1830 and in 1847 signed up for the > army at Maguiresbridge. The record says he came from Ardagh and his father > Patrick was a linen weaver. There was also a John Heslan signed up at the > same time as Bernard. If you could help me find out more about this family > I'd be very grateful. > Chris McGrath > >

Judith, David Leahy's book is an index to Griffith's Valuation printed prior to FTM CD Rom. There is a Rev Patrick ( Rhatigan, Rattigan, Ratigan, Ratiken, Rattican, Rhatagan, Rhategan) listed for Ballinrooey. No Radigan listed. Under GV CD Rom he is listed as Rhatigan, Rev. Patrick County : Longford Parish : Abbeylara Location : Ballinrooey No Radigan listed under either This will fall under Roman Catholic parish of Granard. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Judith Haller <jhaller@io.com> To: <IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 6:39 AM Subject: [LONGFORD~] Leahy lookup? > Does anyone have a copy handy of David Leahy's book about Famine > Survivors of County Longford? I'd sure appreciate a lookup of any > Reverend Radigan.

No Radigan, but there is a listing for Rhatigan, Rattigan, Ratigan, Ratiken, Rattican, Rhatagan, Rhategan: Rev. Patrick at Ballinrooey. Pat Kemper Golden CO

Not sure if there is a connection, but you can try contacting my Aunt, Bernadette Stephenson born McLaughlin. She has information on some of that side of the family. We had a family member, Mary McLaughlin born Mary (Mae) Trimble who married a McLaughlin - if memory serves me correctly. My Aunt Bernadette can be reached at bsteffense@aol.com. Our family was Trimble/Twaddle also of Edgeworthstown - George, Robert, Edward, Alexander, Dorcus and Matilda. The widow Trimble was born Ellen Twaddle and left Longford in 1873 and headed for the US with her children in 1883 on the City of Richmond. George died in 1868 and the widow sold her farm to an unknown owner in 1870 who then sold it to the Mulligan family in 1890. Let me know if there is any connection in all of this. Stephanie Mello

Does anyone have a copy handy of David Leahy's book about Famine Survivors of County Longford? I'd sure appreciate a lookup of any Reverend Radigan. I saw the book in a library 250 miles away and didn't have the presence of mind to look this name. He allegedly presided over the marriage of Alexander McDonald/McDonnell and Ellen Connolly/Connelly around 1840. Thanks, Judith Haller jhaller@io.com

Although my gggrandfather's name was written as Bernard Heslan I'm sure that "Heslin" is the same name. He was born c 1830 and in 1847 signed up for the army at Maguiresbridge. The record says he came from Ardagh and his father Patrick was a linen weaver. There was also a John Heslan signed up at the same time as Bernard. If you could help me find out more about this family I'd be very grateful. Chris McGrath

I think I'm right that Queenstown (named after Queen Victoria's visit) was renamed Cobh when the Republic was declared. Cobh is Cork Harbour, an important port. Regards Chris - looking for Heslans from Longford

I suppose you are referring to the surname Heslin. I was at ancestry.com and searched the name Heslan today. I came up with phone directory listings in France for the Heslan surname. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris McGrath" <chris@cmcgrath.freeserve.co.uk> To: <IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [LONGFORD~] McLoughlin > I think I'm right that Queenstown (named after Queen Victoria's visit) was > renamed Cobh when the Republic was declared. Cobh is Cork Harbour, an > important port. > > Regards Chris - looking for Heslans from Longford > >

I found a very interesting site when looking for townland : http://www.seanruad.com/ Carrickboy is townland in Kilglass Parish, Co. Longford. (there's also one in Donegal) Are you sure of the spelling of the second place ? If so could be a place name, but no trace in any of the search engines I've tried. Can't help with Queenstown. Tom McCurit@aol.com sur 12/09/2000 03:05:57 Veuillez répondre à IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com Pour : IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com cc : Objet : [LONGFORD~] McLoughlin I recently received the informationbelow. It mentioned 2 new places to me CARRICK BOY & AUGHNACILLE where are these places? Was Queenstown a major port of departure after the turn of the century? my notes McLaughlins John McLaughlin(b. circa 1850) Ireland Mary (Farrell) McLaughlin(b. circa 1850) Ireland Peter McLaughlin Born 1/10/1884 County Longford, Ireland (Druming, Ballymahon) Died 10/20/1967 Worcester, MA James Kenny (b. circa 1850) Elizabeth Cox(or Sheridan) (b. circa 1850) Margaret (Kenny) McLaughlin Born 8/15/1885 County Longford, Ireland Died 11/20/1969 Worcester, MA Peter McLoughlin's Petition for Naturalization and Declaration of Intention While the copy is difficult it gives us the ship "The Carona", leaving from Queenstown, Ireland and arriving the port of New York in 9/06/1905 His last Ireland residence was in Aughnacille and discrepences Peter born 2/16/1880 Margaret born in Carrick Boy 7/10/1887 Jack McLaughlin in AZ

In a message dated 9/11/00 6:21:42 PM US Mountain Standard Time, IRL-LONGFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << I am looking for my McLaughlin family from Longford. Have you any info on Eliz. Cox Sheridan Bl850 or John McLaughlin l850/ They came from Edgeworthstown, (my family). The father's name was Patrick McLaughlin. Mary >> I think you are on to something! Here is my information John McLaughlin(b. circa 1850) Ireland Mary (Farrell) McLaughlin(b. circa 1850) Ireland Peter McLaughlin Born 1/10/1884 County Longford, Ireland (Druming, Ballymahon) Died 10/20/1967 Worcester, MA James Kenny (b. circa 1850) Elizabeth Cox(or Sheridan) (b. circa 1850) Margaret (Kenny) McLaughlin Born 8/15/1885 County Longford, Ireland Died 11/20/1969 Worcester, MA Peter McLoughlin's Petition for Naturalization and Declaration of Intention While the copy is difficult it gives us the ship "The Carona", leaving from Queenstown, Ireland and arriving the port of New York in 9/06/1905 His last Ireland residence was in Aughnacille and discrepences Peter born 2/16/1880 Margaret born in Carrick Boy 7/10/1887 I have John as father of Peter and Elizabeth cox or Sheridan( do you say Elizabeth Cox Sheridan) as mother of Margaret Kenny McLoughlin Also they spelled their names with an "o" most of the time I am also sendinfg this directly to you Jack McLaughlin mccurit@aol

I am looking for my McLaughlin family from Longford. Have you any info on Eliz. Cox Sheridan Bl850 or John McLaughlin l850/ They came from Edgeworthstown, (my family). The father's name was Patrick McLaughlin. Mary

I recently received the informationbelow. It mentioned 2 new places to me CARRICK BOY & AUGHNACILLE where are these places? Was Queenstown a major port of departure after the turn of the century? my notes McLaughlins John McLaughlin(b. circa 1850) Ireland Mary (Farrell) McLaughlin(b. circa 1850) Ireland Peter McLaughlin Born 1/10/1884 County Longford, Ireland (Druming, Ballymahon) Died 10/20/1967 Worcester, MA James Kenny (b. circa 1850) Elizabeth Cox(or Sheridan) (b. circa 1850) Margaret (Kenny) McLaughlin Born 8/15/1885 County Longford, Ireland Died 11/20/1969 Worcester, MA Peter McLoughlin's Petition for Naturalization and Declaration of Intention While the copy is difficult it gives us the ship "The Carona", leaving from Queenstown, Ireland and arriving the port of New York in 9/06/1905 His last Ireland residence was in Aughnacille and discrepences Peter born 2/16/1880 Margaret born in Carrick Boy 7/10/1887 Jack McLaughlin in AZ

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My mother's cousin from Tipp was Edmond O'Donnell, but he was always called "Ned".

"Ned", "Ed" and "Eddie" are nicknames for both Edward and Edmund (And "Edwin" too, I guess). In my family they used Ned and Eddie so totally that they were never sure which was the formal name. I have several relatives registered "Edmund" at birth and named "Edward" on their graves. Between cradle and grave they were just "Ned", "Ed" or "Eddie"! "Ted" is another short form but I haven't come across it in Ireland - it's very common in England. Richard Callanan London, England.

I am new to the list. Wondering if anyone knows anything about the Buckleys from Lisnana. Michael, born abt 1814; Peter born about 1798, and Jeremiah, born about 1805 to Jeremiah and Ann (ruddy?/Murphy?). Settled in Randolph Massachusetts and later in Canton MA. Thanks. Betty Ganley IRL-LONGFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > IRL-LONGFORD-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 119 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: [LONGFORD~] Nickname [linda Harper <pharper@direct.ca>] > #2 [LONGFORD~] Re: Nickname ["John Rohde" <ROHTUCK@worldnet.att] > #3 Re: [LONGFORD~] Nickname ["p.adams" <luvgran@gcnet.net>] > #4 RE: [LONGFORD~] Nickname ["Richard Callanan" <RichardCallana] > > Administrivia: > All messages posted to this mailing list remain the copyrighted > property of the poster. They may not be copied, reused, resent or > reposted to any other location without the written consent of the > original author. > > If you'd like to read all previous messages that have been sent to this > list, go to the archives of the list that are located at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/IRL-LONGFORD-L/ > and > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=irl-longford > and: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Ireland/Longford > and: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Ireland/General © MM > > ______________________________ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [LONGFORD~] Nickname > Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 21:24:15 -0700 > From: linda Harper <pharper@direct.ca> > To: IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > My "Ned " was an Edwin . They called my Edward "Ted",but I expect Ned could have been short for Edward too. > Linda Harper > > "p.adams" wrote: > > > Just wanted to put this out to everyone..... I would like to know if anyone would know if "NED" is a nickname for Edward???? Ned was mentioned in an old letter and would like to know what name it is short for??? > > > > IT > > > > Pat > > Luvgran@gcnet.net > > ______________________________ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [LONGFORD~] Re: Nickname > Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 06:28:56 -0600 > From: "John Rohde" <ROHTUCK@worldnet.att.net> > To: IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > Pat, > > Yes, "Ned" is a nickname/pet name for Edward. > My great-great-grandfather was Edward Morrissey, > but he is also referred to as "Ned". > > John > > ______________________________ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [LONGFORD~] Nickname > Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 09:46:57 -0400 > From: "p.adams" <luvgran@gcnet.net> > To: IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > Linda... thanks for your reply and insight on NED...... This child's father > was also known as Edwin.... So I may be on the right track.... > > Thanks..... > > Pat > Luvgran@gcnet.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: linda Harper <pharper@direct.ca> > To: <IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 12:24 AM > Subject: Re: [LONGFORD~] Nickname > > > My "Ned " was an Edwin . They called my Edward "Ted",but I expect Ned > could have been short for Edward too. > > Linda Harper > > > > "p.adams" wrote: > > > > > Just wanted to put this out to everyone..... I would like to know if > anyone would know if "NED" is a nickname for Edward???? Ned was mentioned > in an old letter and would like to know what name it is short for??? > > > > > > IT > > > > > > Pat > > > Luvgran@gcnet.net > > > > > > ______________________________ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: RE: [LONGFORD~] Nickname > Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 15:52:50 +0100 > From: "Richard Callanan" <RichardCallanan@compuserve.com> > To: IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > "Ned", "Ed" and "Eddie" are nicknames for both Edward and Edmund (And > "Edwin" too, I guess). In my family they used Ned and Eddie so totally that > they were never sure which was the formal name. I have several relatives > registered "Edmund" at birth and named "Edward" on their graves. Between > cradle and grave they were just "Ned", "Ed" or "Eddie"! > > "Ted" is another short form but I haven't come across it in Ireland - it's > very common in England. > > Richard Callanan > London, England.

Linda... thanks for your reply and insight on NED...... This child's father was also known as Edwin.... So I may be on the right track.... Thanks..... Pat Luvgran@gcnet.net ----- Original Message ----- From: linda Harper <pharper@direct.ca> To: <IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [LONGFORD~] Nickname > My "Ned " was an Edwin . They called my Edward "Ted",but I expect Ned could have been short for Edward too. > Linda Harper > > "p.adams" wrote: > > > Just wanted to put this out to everyone..... I would like to know if anyone would know if "NED" is a nickname for Edward???? Ned was mentioned in an old letter and would like to know what name it is short for??? > > > > IT > > > > Pat > > Luvgran@gcnet.net > >