Contact me, maybe I can help as have original page numbers of records. tdempsey3@mindspring.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelby Gallagher" <donni2002@yahoo.co.uk> To: <IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 1:29 PM Subject: [LONGFORD~] Ardagh records > Some years ago while in County Longford I was > fortunate the priest in Ardagh assisted with my search > for my ancestors. We found the baptism records for 3 > children in his books. > > I have noticed in the on line records for Ardagh there > are 4 children listed. Is it possible this is an > error as we both went through the church books with a > fine toothcomb? > > Any suggestions appreciated. > > Shelby Gallagher > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie >

> Tony Comer wrote: > "My grandfather, William Comer, son of Patrick, was "farmed out" to Tom and > Lizzie King in Edgeworthstown as a young boy (in the 1880s). William's > family had moved to Manchester. The King family was still living in > Edgeworthstown in at least 1927, as my father and my aunt remember going > there then. Were they related to the Comers? Does anybody know about the > Kings?" Sorry Tony, in my original reply I intended to add that your 20th century dates are well covered by existing records. William should be listed in the Irish censuses of 1901 and 1911 living with the Kings in Edgeworthstown and these records include "relationship to head of the household". Richard Callanan London, England.

The CMC record project (http://www.cmcrp.net )is a collection of databases of births,marriages,death,cemetery,and property records for Ireland. Currently, they cover the counties of Cork, Limerick, Mayo, Tipperary and Waterford. Additionally, we have a GenConnect Ireland surname query board. Last month it became a sponsored project of the Ireland GenWeb. While just beginning, it hopes to eventually provide some substantial web resources to the Ireland genealogy community on line. This month, through the efforts of Janet Crawford, we are beginning to bring records from Griffith's Index to the Tipperary section. Also, a small partial listing of the index for County Wexford is in the "Other Counties" section. We would welcome you visit, add your ancestors name to our surname query board; or even better, if you have records from these counties to share, to add them to the database. On line screen entry forms are present for each county in the database as well as listing for counties not represented yet under "Other Counties" selection from the main page. Tom Webmaster

This site has been unavailable since shortly after the address was posted. I suspect the inordinate number of hits experienced recently may have something to do with it. You could try contacting the Clare library which put it up. At 07:56 PM 10/06/2000 EDT, Mluag@aol.com wrote: >I tried to find the Transplanter's Certificate, using the web site given on 5 >Oct.: >http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/history/transplanters_certificate. >The message said they could not find that site. Do I have the correct >information? > >Mary Gaul > > >

I tried to find the Transplanter's Certificate, using the web site given on 5 Oct.: http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/history/transplanters_certificate. The message said they could not find that site. Do I have the correct information? Mary Gaul

Following are 2 replies I rec'd when asking about the Transplanter's Cert. >The transplanted Irish were Catholics who refused to convert. They were >stripped of their land by the government after Cromwell arrived and sent to >smaller properties on much less fertile soil. I think many were sent to >Clare and Galway. >Cheers, >> >>Jo M. >>Geelong, Australia The people were attached somehow to one person who was taking them all from Dungarvan, Co. Waterford, to Co. Clare or even further north. Why is the good question. We need to examine the history of just prior to 1653 when all this was going on and it is the date of the Certificate. Perhaps you may wish to question the Co. Clare Library which posted the Certificate. They have a terrific web site. I will share anything I obtain. Longford is rather a distance from Waterford - even farther in 1653 ! Regards. Chuck F At 10:46 PM 10/05/2000 EDT, MStaple362@aol.com wrote: >Jo, >I believe "recusants" were those that refused to convert. Families such as >mine had their lands "confiscated". We were landowners who supported both the >King and the Roman Catholic Church. The confiscations were a scheme to wrest >control of the Irish countryside from the established landowners and to pay >back the war debt owed the "adventurers" and other financial backers of the >Parliamentary cause. Kinda like the "Victory Bonds" and other "War Bonds" >from WWII. > >Civil war is always hell and winner take all. > >Slan go foill >Mike Stapleton (Mac An Ghaill Duibh) > >

This might be of interest to others. >>From: "Joanne Mitchell" <pjmitch@sunet.com.au> >>The transplanted Irish were Catholics who refused to convert. They were >>stripped of their land by the government after Cromwell arrived and sent to >>smaller properties on much less fertile soil. I think many were sent to >>Clare and Galway. That is my understanding in brief. You can probably find >>fairly detailed descriptions on line somewhere, but I must admit I haven't >>looked, as I don't think any of my rellies owned any land to be transplanted >>from! >> >>Cheers, >> >>Jo Mitchell >>Geelong, Australia >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Agnes <amcfarlane@webcom.com> >>To: CoTipperary-L@rootsweb.com <CoTipperary-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Wednesday, 4 October 2000 7:12 >>Subject: Re: Transplanter's Certificate >> >> >>>Thanks for this link, Chuck. >>>I found a "Thomas Gorman" near the bottom. That was my gf's name--though, >>>from Longford, this could be an ancestor of his. >>>Can you pls explain what you think was happening here? Where were these >>>people crossing the Shannon River from ? to ?. >>>Thanks, >>>Agnes >>> >>> >>>At 10:51 AM 10/03/2000 -0400, Charles Fitzgerald wrote: >>>>Hello, Listers, >>>>Here is a delightful piece of Irish History borrowed from the >>>>CoWaterford List because my people lived just over the mountains from >>>>Waterford, and the document certainly carries several of my family's >>>>favorite given names, as well as surnames which show up in Parishes of >>>>Shanrahan and Templetenny, Co. Tipperary, in the 18th & 19th centuries. >>>>No positive connection as yet, of course, but certainly of interest and >>>>proof that there IS documentation predating Griffith's Valuation. >>>> >>>>It is a Certificate for the transplantation of people and their personal >>>>effects. Please take a look and enjoy: >>>> >>>>http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/history/transplanters_certificate >

----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Callanan <RichardCallanan@compuserve.com> To: <IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 11:39 PM Subject: RE: [LONGFORD~] KING family in Edgeworthstown Co Longford > Tony Comer wrote: > "My grandfather, William Comer, son of Patrick, was "farmed out" to Tom and > Lizzie King in Edgeworthstown as a young boy (in the 1880s). William's > family had moved to Manchester. The King family was still living in > Edgeworthstown in at least 1927, as my father and my aunt remember going > there then. Were they related to the Comers? Does anybody know about the > Kings?" > > > Yours is a special story. Be patient and it will be unravelled. > > Richard Callanan > London, England. > Does this mean that you know something about these particular Kings or Comers? Is so, do say! martin.a.comer@1979.alumni.man.ac.uk

must say I like the Dillon quote he must have been a family historian Seosimhin Nic Eochagain ---------------------------- Check out my newsletter at: http://www.geoghegan18.fsnet.co.uk or at http://www.jgeoghegan.org.uk ----------------------------

Hi Listers Looking for my WALPOLE connections in County Longford. The only knowledge I have on my Irish roots is that my Great Great Grandma Maria WALPOLE, who lived at Carlisle Street, Sheffield in 1881 was born in Longford, Ireland and her age was then 28. Is there SKS who has a connection with Longford WALPOLE's. Regards Steve Walpole WALPOLE TAYLOR WYLDE HARTLEY BARKER ELLIS SERGEANT - Sheffield HELMORE - Sheffield and Devon ASHMORE - Sheffield and Derbshire BALE - Devon HAVENHAND WYLDE - Kent

i know these denning s came to chelsea ma. jim all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-feddis-fa rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- ____________________________________ "we go to school to learn the words of fools" bob dylan

what might be the conection and was there a large amount of people who fought there all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-feddis-fa rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- ____________________________________ "we go to school to learn the words of fools" bob dylan

KILCOMMOCK what do we also know about this parish early 1800's all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-feddis-fa rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- ____________________________________ "we go to school to learn the words of fools" bob dylan

what do know about ARDAGH-MOYDOW early 1800's all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-feddis-fa rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- ____________________________________ "we go to school to learn the words of fools" bob dylan

what do we know about Clonbroney early 1800's all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-feddis-fa rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- ____________________________________ "we go to school to learn the words of fools" bob dylan

GRANARD what do we know about the early 1800's all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-feddis-fa rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- ____________________________________ "we go to school to learn the words of fools" bob dylan

Killoe who knows what about this parish in earky 1800's all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-feddis-fa rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- ____________________________________ "we go to school to learn the words of fools" bob dylan

Hi Shelby, I just returned recently from a stay in Ardagh. Fr Balfe is at St. Bridgets. I can atest that there are errors going from the index to the actual baptismal records. Whether this is a transcription error or an oversight on investigating the books one doesn't know unless it is collaborated. I'd contact Father Balfe and have him look up the one in question. Shelby Gallagher wrote: > Some years ago while in County Longford I was > fortunate the priest in Ardagh assisted with my search > for my ancestors. We found the baptism records for 3 > children in his books. > > I have noticed in the on line records for Ardagh there > are 4 children listed. Is it possible this is an > error as we both went through the church books with a > fine toothcomb? > > Any suggestions appreciated. > > Shelby Gallagher > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

Tony Comer wrote: "My grandfather, William Comer, son of Patrick, was "farmed out" to Tom and Lizzie King in Edgeworthstown as a young boy (in the 1880s). William's family had moved to Manchester. The King family was still living in Edgeworthstown in at least 1927, as my father and my aunt remember going there then. Were they related to the Comers? Does anybody know about the Kings?" Yours is a special story. Be patient and it will be unravelled. Richard Callanan London, England.

Can anyone give me the URL for this fella's web site for the Farrell's? thank you jo Seosimhin Nic Eochagain ---------------------------- Check out my newsletter at: http://www.jgeoghegan.org.uk ----------------------------