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Cant help on the Colmcille records, but thought you might like to know that I too paid Longford Roots to research the name Stakem and I was really pleased with the amount of information that they supplied. I know that it was all information that I could have looked up myself but the time it would have taken me justified the cost. Colmcille is the parish closest linked with my family, so I would be interested in anything that you find - I am currently researching death records - from the lds films and have been sharing these records with the Longford gen-web site, if your Longford names are not on there let me know and I could add it to my list. Good luck with the colmcille records - not an easy task - I did go into the parish last year and tried to read the original books - I would have need to be there for a couple of years!!!! Regards Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: <BikenMike@aol.com> To: <IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 5:26 PM Subject: [LONGFORD~] Longford Research > Two questions. > > 1) I was looking at an LDS film of some Collombkille RC records in the mid > 1800's and came across a reference to > "end of Rev'd Eugen Daly's time and start of Rev'd T? McGaver's" There was no > date on the record. Can anyone date this transition time? > > 2) Recently I received a report from the Longford Roots Heritage center. It > was a real shot in the dark for my request (not even sure I was in the right > County) and the $75USD I was charged was a steep price to pay, but I went > ahead anyway. What I received back was an abysmal disappointment. No > research, just a few names and dates that appeared to take 10 minutes to > collect (that would equate to $450 an hour if it was true!). It's useless to > me since there is no way to know if they are truely kin or not. Is this > typical of the "research" that Longford Roots conducts? That was hard earned > money and I feel shortchanged in a big way. By comparison I requested a > "search potential" from County Mayo several years back which cost me $25 and > had a terrific report back with details, discussion and outline of > suggestions for further research. What is the norm? Did I get lucky with > County Mayo and my recent experience with Longford is more typical? If so it > looks like I can't afford any more queries like that. Like thr > owing money down a rat hole. I needed help not an expensive, ask one > question, get a little bit, ask another question (for another fee) get just a > little bit more...etc. You probably can tell I'm miffed! > >

Could someone please confirm Noel Farrell's phone number? People are not getting thru' on the advertised one. Noel ( the author) lives Park Road Longford. jo Seosimhin Nic Eochagain ---------------------------- Check out my newsletter at: http://www.geoghegan18.fsnet.co.uk or at http://www.jgeoghegan.org.uk ----------------------------

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Two questions. 1) I was looking at an LDS film of some Collombkille RC records in the mid 1800's and came across a reference to "end of Rev'd Eugen Daly's time and start of Rev'd T? McGaver's" There was no date on the record. Can anyone date this transition time? 2) Recently I received a report from the Longford Roots Heritage center. It was a real shot in the dark for my request (not even sure I was in the right County) and the $75USD I was charged was a steep price to pay, but I went ahead anyway. What I received back was an abysmal disappointment. No research, just a few names and dates that appeared to take 10 minutes to collect (that would equate to $450 an hour if it was true!). It's useless to me since there is no way to know if they are truely kin or not. Is this typical of the "research" that Longford Roots conducts? That was hard earned money and I feel shortchanged in a big way. By comparison I requested a "search potential" from County Mayo several years back which cost me $25 and had a terrific report back with details, discussion and outline of suggestions for further research. What is the norm? Did I get lucky with County Mayo and my recent experience with Longford is more typical? If so it looks like I can't afford any more queries like that. Like thr owing money down a rat hole. I needed help not an expensive, ask one question, get a little bit, ask another question (for another fee) get just a little bit more...etc. You probably can tell I'm miffed!

Am I reading this right?....have the Longford Church Records been transcribed and are available somewhere? I have always requested the microfiche from the FHL and would really like to know if there is another option out there to see the records. Barbara -----Original Message----- From: p.adams [mailto:luvgran@gcnet.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 9:59 PM To: IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LONGFORD~] Church records.... I to like Agnes had the same experience with the Longford Church Records.... I found an unsuspected ancestor...Baptized at St Mary's Church in Granard. I just want to thank the person who transcribed them.... Must have taken alot of effort... I went to the FHL library to see them "in person". Found the Latin and VERY hard to read handwriting..... CONGRATULATIONS TO THE TRANSCRIBER..... Now my next task is to see if there was an Edward BOOKER that was later married.... Trying to find the record in the 1850's....His mother was Mary Dermody and father Edward Booker.... Mary was , I think From Granard. I am also trying to find Mary Dermodys baptism in the late 1810's to 1820's. About the Latin... If you dont know the language you can go to: http://www.familysearch.org/rg/guide/WLLatin.asp And get an Idea of the Latin..... Pat Luvgran@gcnet.net

At 08:55 PM 10/24/2000 -0400, bklyn wrote: > Today I was at my FHC looking through the film of Church records for the >parish of Clonbroney, among others. I was amazed to find that the records >were written partly in Latin! Makes sense though, as another researcher >was looking up her Hungarian ancestor's church records, and they, too, were >in Latin--the language of the R.C. Church in days gone by. _________________________________ This may be your lucky day. I am a part of that R.C. Church in days gone by. I have both written and read records in latin. (Indeed, in our studies for the priesthood, we used to speak latin to eachother at all times: exempli gratia, "Please pass the salt." "He can really throw a fast ball!") If you need any help, let me know. The only trouble is with the poor copies of records, that are indiscernable -- but even then, some of the words can be intuited from the context. My cousin found a bunch of our ancestors in the Granard records, also. (Rev.) David Myers, S.J. Guadalupe, AZ >

I to like Agnes had the same experience with the Longford Church Records.... I found an unsuspected ancestor...Baptized at St Mary's Church in Granard. I just want to thank the person who transcribed them.... Must have taken alot of effort... I went to the FHL library to see them "in person". Found the Latin and VERY hard to read handwriting..... CONGRATULATIONS TO THE TRANSCRIBER..... Now my next task is to see if there was an Edward BOOKER that was later married.... Trying to find the record in the 1850's....His mother was Mary Dermody and father Edward Booker.... Mary was , I think From Granard. I am also trying to find Mary Dermodys baptism in the late 1810's to 1820's. About the Latin... If you dont know the language you can go to: http://www.familysearch.org/rg/guide/WLLatin.asp And get an Idea of the Latin..... Pat Luvgran@gcnet.net

Today I was at my FHC looking through the film of Church records for the parish of Clonbroney, among others. I was amazed to find that the records were written partly in Latin! Makes sense though, as another researcher was looking up her Hungarian ancestor's church records, and they, too, were in Latin--the language of the R.C. Church in days gone by. Anyway, some time ago, I found my gr-gf and his wife and children in the online database and went to check them out in the original context. What I would like to know is: how did we get the records from which the transcriptions were made onto the database on the website? I assume someone (Jan?) had them all copied at her FHC--so were they exact copies of the originals? Thanks, Agnes

Hi Fellow Researcher, I know that we are all anxious to have our money goes as far as we can in research. From my own experience with the Longford Center I'd have to say your experience was not reflective of mine. As you indicated you were hoping for a shot in the dark. You'd be suprised at how much time is spent trying to do a blanket search, when just a name is given or little other information. My experience over the years has been, and this is expoused by the best of the researchers, take your time and prepare yourself well when doing research. If you don't then you'll pay someone else for doing your grunt work. The longford Center on Church Street is a delightful place, and I can personally atest to the staffs professionalism, their wit, and most of all to their attitude of trying to do the best to serve the individual clientele that come their way--must be an Irish trait-that we've kinda lost. Do your homework and prepare yourself then you'll find that the bill will still be in that happy range of $25/30 USD I didn't get your name but Good Luck in your future research! Daniel BikenMike@aol.com wrote: > Two questions. > > 1) I was looking at an LDS film of some Collombkille RC records in the mid > 1800's and came across a reference to > "end of Rev'd Eugen Daly's time and start of Rev'd T? McGaver's" There was no > date on the record. Can anyone date this transition time? > > 2) Recently I received a report from the Longford Roots Heritage center. It > was a real shot in the dark for my request (not even sure I was in the right > County) and the $75USD I was charged was a steep price to pay, but I went > ahead anyway. What I received back was an abysmal disappointment. No > research, just a few names and dates that appeared to take 10 minutes to > collect (that would equate to $450 an hour if it was true!). It's useless to > me since there is no way to know if they are truely kin or not. Is this > typical of the "research" that Longford Roots conducts? That was hard earned > money and I feel shortchanged in a big way. By comparison I requested a > "search potential" from County Mayo several years back which cost me $25 and > had a terrific report back with details, discussion and outline of > suggestions for further research. What is the norm? Did I get lucky with > County Mayo and my recent experience with Longford is more typical? If so it > looks like I can't afford any more queries like that. Like thr > owing money down a rat hole. I needed help not an expensive, ask one > question, get a little bit, ask another question (for another fee) get just a > little bit more...etc. You probably can tell I'm miffed!

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Can anyone help this woman find Cornelius Fox? I'm new to researching in Ireland-I know there are many more out there with much more experience in that part of the world! Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: Erik & Marion Andersson To: Heather Bilodeau Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 11:47 PM Subject: Re: Cornelius Fox Hi Heather! Thank you for your try in helping me to find my ancestor, it is like they are trying to hide this person, but I hope to break thru the wall soon. Regarding the information you found from the LDS records, it is not exactly correct, as I have found the name of the ship he evidently came on to Boston Nov. 15, 1766 and he had only boarded the ship in Cork, Ireland. I don't know the names of his parents, but I know he was married in Nova Scotia and had several children, can give you the names if you think it will help in finding him. Where would he have gotten his education that prepared him for being a teacher, first in Sydney Cape Breton and later assigned by the SPG as their schoolmaster in Cornwallis, Nova Scotia, would he have gotten it from some person in his area? Perhaps the Prerogative Wills of Ireland ( for the Fox family) for Longford, Moyvore, King's County and Foxhall may give me the answer if I can find them soon. As I have been told that he was from the Sionnach Clan in Ireland, I think that these wills may be of help. Again, thanks for your help in this search, Sincerely, Marion Andersson

This message was sent to me by mistake. Since I'm just beginning my own research in Offaly, is there someone else with more experience that could assist Ms. Andersson? I directed her to the long list of Cornelius Foxes that I found on familysearch.org but she needs to give more information (i.e. parents or children's names if she has them). Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: Erik & Marion Andersson To: hbilodea@mint.net Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 12:03 AM Hi Heather! I am hoping you will forgive me in asking for your help in locating my ancestor, his name was Cornelius Fox,born about 1745,somewhere in Ireland. The only info. we have about him, was his last will and testament which he signed as " Cornelius Fox- Sionn....", can't read the rest as it was covered by a large inkblot,but in corresponding with the "Fox Clan" people in Ireland, we were told that he surely was of the Clan Sionnach. Perhaps from the Fox' of Kilcoursey or Fox from Foxhall. The Sionnach Clan was mainly from the area of King's County, Longford and the areas about there. He emigrated to Nova Scotia around 1763-66 and evidently was a man of good education as he became a teacher soon after arriving in Sydney, Cape Breton Canada, later was assigned by the SPG ( The Society for Propregation of the Gospel in Foreign Parts) as their teacher in Nova Scotia, I have seen his handwriting from several documents and they show very good penmanship. We have not been able to find any information about him from the areas in Ireland wherefrom the "Sionnach Clan " came from, but hope we will find it soon before it is to late for us as we are over 75 years old both of us, but we would surely like to find his place in Ireland, perhaps your staff can help me by directing me to a source that may give me the answer I am seeking. Sincerely, Marion Andersson ermara@jps.net Cornelius Fox was a member of the Masons in Nova Scotia and thereby a Protestant member.

Seeking a Hugh O'Beirne, born about 1760, served as a Sergent Majoy in British army at some time, married Jane Finley, migrated to US in about 1837 with sons John, Thomas, Joseph and Michael, Hugh Jr., and possibly others. Died in Fond du Lac County WI in 1856. I have found a Hugh O'Beirne listed in 'Defenderism in Leitrim during the 1790's' and a picture of a house in Jamestown which is listed as belonging to Hugh O'Beirne, and a cemetery that has a tomb with the name Hugh O'Beirne on it. Thanks for your help. Susan K. Spies

Hi Cranley More is near is a townsland in the parish of Edgeworthstown or Mostrim( the Gaelic Name) It is in the middle of Longford and not far from Cavan County. There is a great Edgeworthstown Web site you could spend hours reading history, looking at pictures, information on the Edgeworth family who gave the town its name. you can pick ut up from a link to the Irish Abroad Web site or by the towns name, if you cannot find let me know and I will give you the exact address. I was born in Longford and attended school in Edgeworthstown. Anna

Do you have copies of the Ardagh records? I am trying to trace the birth of Bernard Heslan, son of Patrick Heslan, b about 1830 and supposed to have been in Ardagh. Any help appreciated. Chris McGrath

-----Original Message----- From: D and J Carra <jdcarra@btc-bci.com> To: IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com <IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, November 07, 1999 6:41 PM Subject: [LONGFORD~] CAVANAGH >Hi, am re-posting! I would appreciate any information on the following; > >Andrew CAVANAGH b.approx1770 > record of 1825 tithe assessment in Cranlymore, Mostrim parish, > County Longford, Ireland. > Had seven children, only one of whom is known >He is Daniel CAVANAGH > b. County Lonford, Ireland, 1802 > d.Jarvis, Ontario, Canada, October 15, 1879, age 77yrs. >Married Elizabeth Harrison (whose father was Welsh) > b.Ireland, 1810 > d.Jarvis, Ontario, Canada August 10, 1886, age 76 yrs. >Daniel was a school teacher by profession and part-time farmer. >Emmigrated to Quebec, approx. 1836, going then Vermont, to New Yorkstate, then to Canada. They had 12 children: >Mary Jetitia (Letitia?)J. Thomas H. (or C.) >Robert A. John Eliza A. >Margaret James Sarah J. >William H. Daniel George > >Daniel & Elizabeth CAVANAGH are buried in the cemetary behind the ST. Pauls Anglican Church of Canada, Jarvis, Ontario, Canada > >In 1870, John, William, James came to Missauki Co Michigan with Daniel soon joining them. > >Daniel Married Agnes Jane Stout in 1873. Their children; > > James Olney Harrison A. Walton G. > Margaret (Maggie) Abraham Burt > Howard Bruce Clifford > Floyd Ivan > >Howard was my great grandfather. > >Oral tradition has it that MCBAINS were cousins? from Ireland. They were together in Canada, and the CAVANAGH brothers followed them to Reedon, Mi, that became and still is McBain, MI. > >I would also appreciate any information about Cranlymore, Mostrim Parish, is it close to the border of Co. Caven? Was there famine around 1836? I know Daniel and Elizabeth left with Mary as an infant. How would I go about finding any current CAVANAGHS in the area? >Any infor will be greatly appreciated!! >Thanks in advance, >Jodi Carra, Michigan, USA > > >==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== >© > >

Go to www.rootsweb.com/~irllog Scroll down to County Longford Church Records. Note spellings: Heslin, Heslon. No I do not have originals for Ardagh, I have some typed pages which are on the above site, with a reference to the original page as listed in each handwritten church registers. Try the Lookups also on this site. Good luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris McGrath" <chris@cmcgrath.freeserve.co.uk> To: <IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [LONGFORD~] Ardagh records > Do you have copies of the Ardagh records? I am trying to trace the birth of > Bernard Heslan, son of Patrick Heslan, b about 1830 and supposed to have > been in Ardagh. Any help appreciated. > > Chris McGrath > >

Some years ago while in County Longford I was fortunate the priest in Ardagh assisted with my search for my ancestors. We found the baptism records for 3 children in his books. I have noticed in the on line records for Ardagh there are 4 children listed. Is it possible this is an error as we both went through the church books with a fine toothcomb? Any suggestions appreciated. Shelby Gallagher ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

Some years ago while in County Longford I was fortunate the priest in Ardagh assisted with my search for my ancestors. We found the baptism records for 3 children in his books. I have noticed in the on line records for Ardagh there are 4 children listed. Is it possible this is an error as we both went through the church books with a fine toothcomb? Any suggestions appreciated. Shelby Gallagher ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie