OOPS... I meant Granard not Granath.... Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "bklyn" <bklyn@webcom.com> To: "p.adams" <luvgran@gcnet.net>; <IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [LONGFORD~] Longford website > Pat, > I don't know the answer to your question but just curious: Do you mean St. > Mary's in GranaRD? > Agnes > > At 08:11 PM 11/07/2000 -0500, p.adams wrote: > >I have been to the Local Ireland website before but somehow missed the local > >news... Thanks Agnes for bringing it to my attention.... The website along > >with the Longford website really gives a feel of the area both past and > >present..... I even had luck on the Church records and applaud the people > >who have put the info on the web.... Thanks... > > > >By any chance could someone set me straight as to when ST. Marys in Granath > >was established.?... I found a Baptism in 1834 but on the above website I > >saw reference to it being built in the 1860's? > > > >Pat > >luvgran@gcnet.net > >Researching in Ireland..... Longford>Granath DERMODY, BOOKER possibly GRAY > > WEstmeath.... GILLICK, MCCORMICK > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "bklyn" <bklyn@webcom.com> > >To: <IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 7:55 PM > >Subject: [LONGFORD~] Longford website > > > > > >> http://longford.local.ie/general/longford_news/ > >> > >> Co. Longford has a website at local.ie > >> I "subscribe" to their newsletter on line. It's not about genealogy, per > >> se, but it's interesting nonetheless. > >> Agnes > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > >> Try your luck if you're looking for ancestors in Pennsylvania, USA: > >> Subscribe to the Pennsylvania Census Lookup list: > >> mailto:PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe > >> > >> > > > > > >==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > > Try your luck if you're looking for ancestors in Pennsylvania, USA: > >Subscribe to the Pennsylvania Census Lookup list: > >mailto:PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe > > > > > > > >

Pat, I don't know the answer to your question but just curious: Do you mean St. Mary's in GranaRD? Agnes At 08:11 PM 11/07/2000 -0500, p.adams wrote: >I have been to the Local Ireland website before but somehow missed the local >news... Thanks Agnes for bringing it to my attention.... The website along >with the Longford website really gives a feel of the area both past and >present..... I even had luck on the Church records and applaud the people >who have put the info on the web.... Thanks... > >By any chance could someone set me straight as to when ST. Marys in Granath >was established.?... I found a Baptism in 1834 but on the above website I >saw reference to it being built in the 1860's? > >Pat >luvgran@gcnet.net >Researching in Ireland..... Longford>Granath DERMODY, BOOKER possibly GRAY > WEstmeath.... GILLICK, MCCORMICK >----- Original Message ----- >From: "bklyn" <bklyn@webcom.com> >To: <IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 7:55 PM >Subject: [LONGFORD~] Longford website > > >> http://longford.local.ie/general/longford_news/ >> >> Co. Longford has a website at local.ie >> I "subscribe" to their newsletter on line. It's not about genealogy, per >> se, but it's interesting nonetheless. >> Agnes >> >> >> >> >> ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== >> Try your luck if you're looking for ancestors in Pennsylvania, USA: >> Subscribe to the Pennsylvania Census Lookup list: >> mailto:PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe >> >> > > >==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > Try your luck if you're looking for ancestors in Pennsylvania, USA: >Subscribe to the Pennsylvania Census Lookup list: >mailto:PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe > > >

I have been to the Local Ireland website before but somehow missed the local news... Thanks Agnes for bringing it to my attention.... The website along with the Longford website really gives a feel of the area both past and present..... I even had luck on the Church records and applaud the people who have put the info on the web.... Thanks... By any chance could someone set me straight as to when ST. Marys in Granath was established.?... I found a Baptism in 1834 but on the above website I saw reference to it being built in the 1860's? Pat luvgran@gcnet.net Researching in Ireland..... Longford>Granath DERMODY, BOOKER possibly GRAY WEstmeath.... GILLICK, MCCORMICK ----- Original Message ----- From: "bklyn" <bklyn@webcom.com> To: <IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 7:55 PM Subject: [LONGFORD~] Longford website > http://longford.local.ie/general/longford_news/ > > Co. Longford has a website at local.ie > I "subscribe" to their newsletter on line. It's not about genealogy, per > se, but it's interesting nonetheless. > Agnes > > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > Try your luck if you're looking for ancestors in Pennsylvania, USA: > Subscribe to the Pennsylvania Census Lookup list: > mailto:PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe > >

http://longford.local.ie/general/longford_news/ Co. Longford has a website at local.ie I "subscribe" to their newsletter on line. It's not about genealogy, per se, but it's interesting nonetheless. Agnes

Surname: Denning, Denniston, Deniston, Denan, Dennigan, Dennon, Dinhin, Dennen, Dennin, Dennan, Dinistin, Dinhiny, Deneny, Doonon, Dinnin, Dinnan, Dinin 1793/7 Denning, Patrick James M. Farrell1801/3 Denin, John....Killasonna 1846/3 Dennigan, Elizabeth....Granard 1828/12 Dennin, Patrick....Killeen 1836/12 Dennon, Maria....Muckerstaff 1792/3 Dinhin, Winifred....Aughabrack 1801/6 Dinin, Bridget....Galnamony 1802/5 Dinin, Catherine....Ballymorris 1802/3 Dinin, Edmond....Killeen 1816/5 Dinin, Margaret....Toneywarden 1816/2 Dinin, Mary....Granard 1816/5 Dinin, Mary....Killeen 1845/3 Dinistin, John....Castlenugent 1846/1 Dinnan, Anna....Killeen 1831/10 Dinnan, John....Tubber 1834/2 Dinnin, Michel....Wilsbrook 1823/9 Dinin, Patrick....Tubber 1786/4 Molloy, James...........Dinihiny, Mary 1808/8 Magrath, Edmond.........Dinin, Ellen 1846/2 McGee, Francis..........Dennan, Ann 1829/5 McGinnis, Patrick.......Dennon, Rose Ann 1784/4 McGuire,Brid. Bernard H. Deneny* 1786/5 McGuire, Hugh Bernard H. Deneny* 1788/6 Mcguire,* Ann Bernard H. Dinhiny* 1792/3 Maguire,*Pat Bernard H. Dinhiny* 1791/10 Maguire,*Mary Bernard H. Dinhiny 1794/3 McGuire, Argy Bernard H. Dinnin* 1797/4 Maguire,*Bern Bernard H. Dinnin* GRANARD PARISH BAPTISMS Year Surname Father Mother 1810/4 Masterson,Mich Thomas B. Denan 1819/6 Meehan, Ann James J. Denning 1823/12 Meehan, James James J. Denning 1829/1 Meehan, John James J. Denning 1784/3 McCormick, Pat Terence S. Denen GRANARD PARISH MARRIAGES Year Husband Wife 1856/5 Dennan, John............McCormick, Ann 1832/9 Dennin, Eugene..........Brady, Marian 1818/2 Dennin, Eugene..........Molloy, Bridget 1809/5 Dennin, Michael.........Maguire, Ann 1832/4 Dennin, Michael.........Rogers, Ellenor 1832/7 Denning, Phillappe......Flood, Rose Ann 1819/11 Dennon, Mick............Jeragen, Marian 1795/1 Dinin, Eugene...........McNerreny, Ann 1808/7 Dinin, John.............Briody, Mary 1809/7 Dinin, John.............Molloy, Margaret 1801/11 Dinin, John.............Shaughnesy, Marcella 1798/5 Dinin, Michael..........Brady, Catherine 1807/2 Dinin, Patrick..........Petit, Ann 1805/5 Dinin, Patrick..........Rowane, Catherine 1801/7 Dinin, Patrick..........West, Elizabeth 1815/2 Dinin, Thomas...........Feely, Bridget 1829/3 Dinnan, James...........O'Brien, Marian 1822/2 Dinnin, Thomas..........Macken, Bridget 1796/3 Maguire, Brid Patrick B. Dinin 1798/6 Maguire, Peter Patrick B. Dinin 1821/9 Mahon, MaryAnn James J. Dennan 1824/1 Higgins, Edward.........Dinnin, Catherine Parish of Clonbroney deaths 1850/10 Deniston, Andrew....n/g 1853/6 Deniston, Sam.....Drumnacross 1892/5 Denniston, John....Drumnacross Clonbroney Parish Baptisms Year Surname Father Mother 1852/7 Denniston,A. John B. Keirnan 1854/5 Denniston,M John B. Keirnan 1855/8 Denniston,B John B. Keirnan 1858/1 Denniston,C. John B. Keirnan 1860/? Denniston,M John B. Keirnan 1862/? Denniston,T. John B. Keirnan Parish of Killoe - Baptisms Source FHC #1279270 1827/10 McKenna,Jas. John E. Denning 1832/4 McKenna,Eliz John E. Denning 1838/3 McKenna,Pat John E. Denning 1842/? McKenna,Cath. John E. Denning 1836/2 McKenna,T'rence John E. Denniston Killoe Parish Deaths Year Surname 1871/4 Dennin, William....Crieve Parish of Killoe - Baptisms Source FHC #1279270 Date Surname Name Father Mother 1874/? Dennin Mary Jane Joseph A.Kilane 1876/9 Dennan Janet Francis Joseph A.Kilane 1879/7 Dennin Margt.Marian Joseph A.Kilane 1881/6 Dennen William Joseph A.Kilane 1888/7 Dennen John Joseph Joseph A.Kilane 1835/1 Denning Thomas William J.Coffee 1836/12 Denning William William J.Coffee 19839/11 Denning James William J.Coffee 1841/2 Denning John William J.Coffee 1842/3 Denning Ann William J.Coffee 1846/7 Denning Joseph William J.Coffee 1839/10 Denning Bridget Patrick M.Quinn 1842/7 Denning Mary Patrick M.Quinn Killoe Marriages YEAR MO. GROOM BRIDE 1833 9 Denning, Patrick Quin, Mary 1836 2 Denning, Thomas Lawlor, Mary 1834 3 Denning, William Coffey, J. all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-feddis-fa rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- ____________________________________ "we go to school to learn the words of fools" bob dylan

The Longford list is a quiet one these days, so maybe others need this info too: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/ There, you'll find the Longford gen web project. Scroll down all the way to Co. Longford Church records. There is a great search function on this site--which is how I found my Gormans. They were in a diff. parish than the one I was told by my aunt. Happy Hunting! At 11:45 AM 11/06/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Could you tell me where I could find the transcription of the records that >you mentioned were on line. My ggrandparents Thomas McGrath and Anna >Mulleady came from Longford and I would love to be able to looks through >some records for information on them. The microfilm I got from the LDS was >unreadable for me. Thanks for any help you can offer. > >Pat Connor Coogan > >

Thanks for clarifying that, Christina. I was trying to remember the source of the records that were put online. I noticed the handwritten records had some additional info that doesn't appear on the database. Specifically, names of sponsors at baptisms. In one case, a Gorman relative is baptized and ANOTHER Gorman is a sponsor, but I can't for the life of me read the first name of the sponsor. I'd like to have that info. Is it available on the transcriptions that you have? I can fwd you the specific entry if it is. Thanks alot for your help Agnes When the Longford Hist. Soc. transcribed the records At 10:11 AM 11/02/2000 -0500, Christina Hunt wrote: >Agnes, >Lest the website take undeserved praise...we used a typed version which was >available via microfilm at the FHC. The Longford Historical Society deserves >the praise for the work they did on the typed copy. >However, I hasten to add, that I do not know that other parishes have had >this transcribing done. (I have been asked that.) >I agree that the films of the church records I want are "beyond the beyond" >as Frank McCourt likes to say. I have thrown up my hands at finding much. >Such a shame as they are a treasure trove of information. If only they were >legible. >Best wishes, >Christina > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "bklyn" <bklyn@webcom.com> >To: <IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 7:49 PM >Subject: [LONGFORD~] church records > > >> Today I spent several more hours poring over films at my Family History >> Center (FHC). Thanks to the hard work of Christina, Jan and others, my >> Gormans are listed on the Longford website under church records, so I had >> the names, dates, parish, etc. Even WITH all that--knowing exactly what I >> was looking for--I had a hard time reading the records and finding the >> records I was looking for. Being written partly in Latin was the least of >> it!! Try reading scrawl some 150 years old, with smeared ink, on dark >> paper (that doesn't film too well), and you've got the idea. I am >> absolutely amazed at some of the transcribing that was done. People >> must've been experienced in hieroglyphics to have deciphered some of that >> writing! Kudos to the ones who did it!! >> >> By contrast, another researcher called me over to see the records he was >> looking through--German church records. The writing was almost a work of >> art--akin to calligraphy! >> Wish the Irish priests had thought ahead into the future and printed the >> records neatly, so we 21st centurions would have an easier time! >> Thanks again for all the work on the website. I don't know how you did >it! >> Agnes >> > > >

John McLoughlin died in Feb 18, 1884 He is in Griffiths in 4 entries Parish of Ardagh at Crossea South Parish of Moydow at Bawn Parish of Taghsheenod at Carrickedmond Parish of Templemichael How do I find out which one is he? Jack McLaughlin in AZ

Agnes, Lest the website take undeserved praise...we used a typed version which was available via microfilm at the FHC. The Longford Historical Society deserves the praise for the work they did on the typed copy. However, I hasten to add, that I do not know that other parishes have had this transcribing done. (I have been asked that.) I agree that the films of the church records I want are "beyond the beyond" as Frank McCourt likes to say. I have thrown up my hands at finding much. Such a shame as they are a treasure trove of information. If only they were legible. Best wishes, Christina ----- Original Message ----- From: "bklyn" <bklyn@webcom.com> To: <IRL-LONGFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 7:49 PM Subject: [LONGFORD~] church records > Today I spent several more hours poring over films at my Family History > Center (FHC). Thanks to the hard work of Christina, Jan and others, my > Gormans are listed on the Longford website under church records, so I had > the names, dates, parish, etc. Even WITH all that--knowing exactly what I > was looking for--I had a hard time reading the records and finding the > records I was looking for. Being written partly in Latin was the least of > it!! Try reading scrawl some 150 years old, with smeared ink, on dark > paper (that doesn't film too well), and you've got the idea. I am > absolutely amazed at some of the transcribing that was done. People > must've been experienced in hieroglyphics to have deciphered some of that > writing! Kudos to the ones who did it!! > > By contrast, another researcher called me over to see the records he was > looking through--German church records. The writing was almost a work of > art--akin to calligraphy! > Wish the Irish priests had thought ahead into the future and printed the > records neatly, so we 21st centurions would have an easier time! > Thanks again for all the work on the website. I don't know how you did it! > Agnes >

I'd just go straight to the BMD index and look for your person. Why are your worried about Griffiths when the information will be on the death Certiicate? Daniel McCurit@aol.com wrote: > John McLoughlin died in Feb 18, 1884 > He is in Griffiths in 4 entries > > Parish of Ardagh at Crossea South > Parish of Moydow at Bawn > Parish of Taghsheenod at Carrickedmond > Parish of Templemichael > > How do I find out which one is he? > > Jack McLaughlin in AZ > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > Try your luck if you're looking for ancestors in Pennsylvania, USA: > Subscribe to the Pennsylvania Census Lookup list: > mailto:PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe

Today I spent several more hours poring over films at my Family History Center (FHC). Thanks to the hard work of Christina, Jan and others, my Gormans are listed on the Longford website under church records, so I had the names, dates, parish, etc. Even WITH all that--knowing exactly what I was looking for--I had a hard time reading the records and finding the records I was looking for. Being written partly in Latin was the least of it!! Try reading scrawl some 150 years old, with smeared ink, on dark paper (that doesn't film too well), and you've got the idea. I am absolutely amazed at some of the transcribing that was done. People must've been experienced in hieroglyphics to have deciphered some of that writing! Kudos to the ones who did it!! By contrast, another researcher called me over to see the records he was looking through--German church records. The writing was almost a work of art--akin to calligraphy! Wish the Irish priests had thought ahead into the future and printed the records neatly, so we 21st centurions would have an easier time! Thanks again for all the work on the website. I don't know how you did it! Agnes

Hi Fellow Researchers, During a recent trip to Ireland, I spent several hours pouring over records and photographing them with a digital camera. These records were in latin of course and yes, some of the writing would even make my Doctor envious:):) These records were at Killahsee, as far as I know I've never seen them available publicly. What made this trip rather personable and enjoyable was that Father Kelly, who was quite an elderly gentleman, was there lending support not so much for the "Latin", but because he was familiar with the text, smudges and all. What I'm saying is like anything else, once you get used to looking at it several times and truly get into it, its quite rewarding. This brings up another thought, I'm sure that I'm not the only one who has used a digital camera in photographing Irish RC records. What would it take to pool resources, of all who have done so with the Killashee records or others such as Templemichael, Clongesh etc... and make them available online, Christiana probably has already thought of this, I'm sure. I know that these records are precious, I'd just like to see them available to all. Before I get to many questions with regards to the records at Killashee, I'd have to preface my remarks by saying, that my photographing was limited to McCormick and Milnamow surname. Daniel http://homepages.rootsweb.com/martin/mm bklyn wrote: > Today I spent several more hours poring over films at my Family History > Center (FHC). Thanks to the hard work of Christina, Jan and others, my > Gormans are listed on the Longford website under church records, so I had > the names, dates, parish, etc. Even WITH all that--knowing exactly what I > was looking for--I had a hard time reading the records and finding the > records I was looking for. Being written partly in Latin was the least of > it!! Try reading scrawl some 150 years old, with smeared ink, on dark > paper (that doesn't film too well), and you've got the idea. I am > absolutely amazed at some of the transcribing that was done. People > must've been experienced in hieroglyphics to have deciphered some of that > writing! Kudos to the ones who did it!! > > By contrast, another researcher called me over to see the records he was > looking through--German church records. The writing was almost a work of > art--akin to calligraphy! > Wish the Irish priests had thought ahead into the future and printed the > records neatly, so we 21st centurions would have an easier time! > Thanks again for all the work on the website. I don't know how you did it! > Agnes > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > Try your luck if you're looking for ancestors in Pennsylvania, USA: > Subscribe to the Pennsylvania Census Lookup list: > mailto:PA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe

Jack, both names register a bell as there is a Kenny in our family line, although distant Have a family diary with the name Jim, Kathleen, and MickKenny living in Edgeworthstown, County Longford, Ireland in Sept 1990. Jim Kenny's mother was Margaret Keenan who had a sister Mary Ann Keenan. Other ironic twist is your last name - my aunt Bernadette Steffensen was born Bernadette McLaughlin, daughter of Mary Ellen Trimble McLaughlin. Any connection? Bernadette is currently researching family history as well and is living in Virginia. Please let me know if you know of any connect. Stephanie Mello mellos2@compuserve.com

I am research my ancestor Margaret Kenny b. 7/10/1887 in Carrickboy. Jack McLaughlin in AZ, USA

David Myers wrote: (Indeed, in our studies for the priesthood, we used to speak latin to eachother at all times: exempli gratia, "Please pass the salt." "He can really throw a fast ball!") Indeed! For every Catholic priest you meet there are another three who went through part of the system. I was a Jesuit novice in Ireland in the early sixties (1962-64)and, like David, we had compulsory Latin conversation. "Ecce fratres, luna est alba, valde bona"*. I've never regretted my 20 months in the novitiate and reading early records and gravestones and records is a bonus to those strange times when we were isolated from all outside news. (In my second year of novitiate a new arrival tried to tell me - "There's this great group called The Beatles". Later in the same year Brother Yates broke the rule of silence to tell me as he stirred the porridge for breakfast: "They've shot Kennedy"!) Our regime in Ireland meant we not only had three conversation sessions a week in Latin but twice a week we had to speak Gaelic. "Agus, mo dhritheár, oiche mhaith atá ann"**. All of this a valuable part of education. If only I could convince my children.... (grin) Richard Callanan London, England. * * Behold, brothers, the moon is white - very good. * ** And brothers, it's a fine night.

I was sent a "Birth and Baptismal Certificate" from Co. Longford, which turns out not to be my relative's. It is for "Thomas of Thomas Bernard GORMAN and Margaret CONLON", baptised on May 15, 1861 in the Parish of Drumlish, Diocese of Ardagh and Clonmacnois, Co. Longford. If you would like it, please contact me. Agnes

what does anyone know about this is there any info who died there jim Granard was the home of Kitty Kiernan. She was a girlfriend of Michael Collins and he was a frequent visitor at the Granard area. Their relationship was recreated in the recently released film "Michael Collins". "Black 47" as the great Famine is sometimes called had its effects on Granard. A large number of people died in the workhouse, now the site of the Secondary School in Barrack Street. A number of these unfortunate people were burried in a mass grave near Carra Church (known as "Bully's Acre") where a recently errected in their memory. In 1798 on the 5th September a fierce battle took place in Granard town when a number of insurgents attacked the local forces. The main fight took place in the Gortawillian Lane The insurgents were defeated and a large number executed and burried near the base of the Motte. North of Granard lies the village of Mullinalaghta near Lough Gowna. Derrycasson wood is on the shore of the lake and provides a scenic view from the car park at Dring. This is an ideal area for fishing, water activities and nature walks. all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-feddis-fa rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- ____________________________________ "we go to school to learn the words of fools" bob dylan

In a message dated 10/27/00 6:54:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, SharonBryant@worldnet.att.net writes: << Hello, I am a new subscriber to both of these lists. I am looking for information about the name Glendenning or Clindinning in both counties prior to 1800. If you have this name(s) in your family tree would you please contact me? Thank you, Sharon Bryant >> i have these minus the glen or clen i am doing denning dinning dinnen dennen dennan dannan dannen denon denune dininhy dinan dennan ect all of these are the same name all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-feddis-fa rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- ____________________________________ "we go to school to learn the words of fools" bob dylan

Hello, I am a new subscriber to both of these lists. I am looking for information about the name Glendenning or Clindinning in both counties prior to 1800. If you have this name(s) in your family tree would you please contact me? Thank you, Sharon Bryant

In a message dated 10/25/00 9:02:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, IRL-LONGFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << At 08:55 PM 10/24/2000 -0400, bklyn wrote: > Today I was at my FHC looking through the film of Church records for the >parish of Clonbroney, among others. I was amazed to find that the records >were written partly in Latin! Makes sense though, as another researcher >was looking up her Hungarian ancestor's church records, and they, too, were >in Latin--the language of the R.C. Church in days gone by. >> most rc records are in latin even today in mass some are still done that way.thay all were 19th century in mass jim all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-feddis-fa rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- ____________________________________ "we go to school to learn the words of fools" bob dylan