Last year I collected a list of a few sites that sell Discovery Maps. I checked the links and had to remove a couple but here are the rest. I was aiming for one from each county (with a lot of Irish researchers) but have to do another search to find a new site for England and Australia. I will be glad to update my list with other sites. Ireland: http://www.irishmaps.ie/ U.S.A. http://www.globecorner.com/welcome.html Canada http://www.interlinkbookshop.com/iremap.htm New Zealand http://beehivebooks.co.nz/index.htm Christina

Good morning everyone: With the movie "Arthur" finished I am wondering when Jerry Bruckheimer will do this Battle. The reason that I mention this battle is that apparently there was a large contingent [some 2000] of Dalriadans [Celts] and Milesians [Celtiberians], who sailed in the great Dalriadan fleet to Gaul up the Loire River to Tours to join the Duke of Armorica, the Duke de Saint Claire to join Charles Martel who was gathering his Christian forces to head off the Muslims led by Abderrahman, the Emir of Cordoba just coming up Spain across the Pyrenees and from a successful sacking of the great port of Bordeaux, each army with approximately with 50,000 men. Other than the fact that the Irish were fighting the Muslims, and they were again coming to the defense of Christendom. what really ticked the Irish off was the loss of their supply of wine from Bordeaux which was imported in great quantity into the great Irish trading ports of Cork, Waterford, Dublin and points north. The great clans of Ui Naill and Ui MacLochlainn were there along with the O'Donnells. Anyone else want to jump in on this piece of history ?? Eric Macklin

Pete, When you say discovery maps, are you talking about Tourist's maps. Surely, they wouldn't be the same the Atlas that we purchased the last time we went to England/Ireland would they??? Thanks so much for your help, Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] help wanted - townlands of Soran, Aughaboy and Kilnacarrow. > Jeanne at [email protected] writes: > > > Are you able to tell me how I would access Discovery map 34? < > > Jeanne, > > If by "access", you mean via the internet.....I think you can forget that. > You'll have to actually buy it, I'm afraid. I usually recommend that people > pick-up these maps at the Tourist Bureau shop at the airport the next time > you're in Ireland. If you want order it from a U.S. (or wherever you are) source, > you could certainly try Google. I think the major source in the U.S. would > be the following: > > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~irish/bookstore/discovery_maps.htm << > > There are others in the U.S., such as omnimap and travelgenie. It would be > nice if Barnes & Noble carried them, but...... > > > Also is anyone able to tell me how I can access historical information on > these townlands? < > > I guess that you mean stuff like landownership, etc. Sounds like genealogy > to me, which leaves me out......but I'm sure others will jump in. > > Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Hi Pete, You sound like a mine of information on Longford, could you tell me if Cahanagh Townland, Clongesh is still there and, if you have any information on it I would love to know as I intend to visit the area later this year. Many thanks Lynne ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 1:53 AM Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] help wanted > Jeanne at [email protected] writes: > > << I am particularly looking for the townlands of Soran, Aughaboy and > Kilnacarrow in County Longford (wondered if they are still in existence and if there > locations/borders have changed) >> > > Jeanne, > > They're still there, same as they were when the maps were drawn in the > 1830's. There are two Aghaboys and three Kilnacarrows in Co. Longford, but I think > you want the ones all in a cluster with Soran - in Killoe civil parish. Soran > is the largest of the three townlands - over 1000 acres, and extends from a > point less than a half mile west of Ballinalee town/village, up to the NNW and > NW about two miles from Ballinalee. Kilnacarrow has a tiny border with Soran, > down near the point just west of Ballinalee and extends about a half mile to > the west and SW (it's only 244 acres). But at its western end, it has at > least a quarter mile boundary with Aghaboy (443 acres), which then extends about 2 > miles to the NW. > > So, it is possible to walk from Aghaboy, through Kilnacarrow, to Soran. If > you wanted to go from A. directly to S., you'd have to pass through the > townlands of at least Esker South - and possibly Clontumpher....... a stroll of about > a mile. The general locations of these townlands is shown on Discovery map > 34. If you have any other questions, drop me a line. > > Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts > (Our town has been celebrating it's Bicentennial all week. Big parade > tomorrow.) > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > Visit the County Longford GenWeb Page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog >

Jeanne at [email protected] writes: > Are you able to tell me how I would access Discovery map 34? < Jeanne, If by "access", you mean via the internet.....I think you can forget that. You'll have to actually buy it, I'm afraid. I usually recommend that people pick-up these maps at the Tourist Bureau shop at the airport the next time you're in Ireland. If you want order it from a U.S. (or wherever you are) source, you could certainly try Google. I think the major source in the U.S. would be the following: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~irish/bookstore/discovery_maps.htm << There are others in the U.S., such as omnimap and travelgenie. It would be nice if Barnes & Noble carried them, but...... > Also is anyone able to tell me how I can access historical information on these townlands? < I guess that you mean stuff like landownership, etc. Sounds like genealogy to me, which leaves me out......but I'm sure others will jump in. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Pete, Thank you so very much. I do so appreciate the information you have provided regarding the townlands of Soran, Aughaboy and Kilnacarrow in County Longford that I am researching. Are you able to tell me how I would access Discovery map 34? Also is anyone able to tell me how I can access historical information on these townlands? Thank you so much for your help, Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] help wanted > Jeanne at [email protected] writes: > > << I am particularly looking for the townlands of Soran, Aughaboy and > Kilnacarrow in County Longford (wondered if they are still in existence and if there > locations/borders have changed) >> > > Jeanne, > > They're still there, same as they were when the maps were drawn in the > 1830's. There are two Aghaboys and three Kilnacarrows in Co. Longford, but I think > you want the ones all in a cluster with Soran - in Killoe civil parish. Soran > is the largest of the three townlands - over 1000 acres, and extends from a > point less than a half mile west of Ballinalee town/village, up to the NNW and > NW about two miles from Ballinalee. Kilnacarrow has a tiny border with Soran, > down near the point just west of Ballinalee and extends about a half mile to > the west and SW (it's only 244 acres). But at its western end, it has at > least a quarter mile boundary with Aghaboy (443 acres), which then extends about 2 > miles to the NW. > > So, it is possible to walk from Aghaboy, through Kilnacarrow, to Soran. If > you wanted to go from A. directly to S., you'd have to pass through the > townlands of at least Esker South - and possibly Clontumpher....... a stroll of about > a mile. The general locations of these townlands is shown on Discovery map > 34. If you have any other questions, drop me a line. > > Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts > (Our town has been celebrating it's Bicentennial all week. Big parade > tomorrow.)

Thanks to all of you for the enormous task you have done. Transcribing any of these records is to say the least, a big job! Hats off to you all. Maureen

Jeanne at [email protected] writes: << I am particularly looking for the townlands of Soran, Aughaboy and Kilnacarrow in County Longford (wondered if they are still in existence and if there locations/borders have changed) >> Jeanne, They're still there, same as they were when the maps were drawn in the 1830's. There are two Aghaboys and three Kilnacarrows in Co. Longford, but I think you want the ones all in a cluster with Soran - in Killoe civil parish. Soran is the largest of the three townlands - over 1000 acres, and extends from a point less than a half mile west of Ballinalee town/village, up to the NNW and NW about two miles from Ballinalee. Kilnacarrow has a tiny border with Soran, down near the point just west of Ballinalee and extends about a half mile to the west and SW (it's only 244 acres). But at its western end, it has at least a quarter mile boundary with Aghaboy (443 acres), which then extends about 2 miles to the NW. So, it is possible to walk from Aghaboy, through Kilnacarrow, to Soran. If you wanted to go from A. directly to S., you'd have to pass through the townlands of at least Esker South - and possibly Clontumpher....... a stroll of about a mile. The general locations of these townlands is shown on Discovery map 34. If you have any other questions, drop me a line. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts (Our town has been celebrating it's Bicentennial all week. Big parade tomorrow.)

Hi Everyone, My paternal grandfather, Michael Gray, was born in Ballyduffy, Moyne. He was the son of Laurence Gray and Rose Dobson. He was born in 1871 and emigrated to the US in the early 1890's. He was one of several children and I can list the following: Matthew (believed to have emigrated to Australia or New Zealand), Laurence (married Margaret Monaghan and stayed to run the farm), Catherine (died in Idaho), Rose Ann (married John Murray of Aghaveans, Scrabby (now Loch Gowna), County Cavan and died in California), Patrick (believed to have settled in Wales), James (studied for the priesthood but left his studies, emigrated to the US and died tragically- possibly in a train accident- in Manhattan), John Joseph (settled in Oregon and Idaho) and Thomas (emigrated to Oregon and moved to California and believed to have died young). Colleen

Are there earlier Townlands maps also? I am particularly looking for the townlands of Soran, Aughaboy and Kilnacarrow in County Longford (wondered if they are still in existence and if there locations/borders have changed). Wish I could help, but I work full-time and have an elderly mother-in-law to try to help look after. Jeanne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christina Hunt" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 3:17 PM > Subject: [LONGFORD] help wanted > > > > I have uploaded all but two townlands from the 1901 census of the Parish > of > > Cashel I copied the other day. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/census/index.htm > > I missed one townland and someone is helping with the other. So, I will > get them > > up when they are finished. > > > > I can still use volunteers. I can send out the images and a sample Excel > file - > > so all you do is fill in the blanks on the excel sheet. You do need Excel > or a > > spreadsheet program. Works has a data base program that works. It only > takes ½-1 > > hour to do a townland. A lot of the data just dittoes. > > > > I was peeking at Ballymahon town with an eye toward transcribing it. It is > very > > large and I would like to split the job up I think. > > > > I won't have as much time as I have previously to copy things so I intend > to go > > slowly and just do what I can. > > > > Thanks, > > Christina > > Contact me if interested at: > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > > To contact the Listowner send email to: > > mailto:[email protected] > > > > ______________________________

I would love to access a townlands map of County Longford also. Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [good map of LONGFORD townlands] > Peter, > > With all your experiance and knowledge of the townlands in Longford County, > would you know if any maps of townlands exist as I would love to purchase one > to track migration?? > > Thanks for your help. > > Susan Mulledy >

There are church records at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/churchrecs.htm You can do a search on the home page http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/ . If you put "Clonbroney" in the search box, you'll get 47 hits. I don't know if the actual church name is listed. You can try. Agnes -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 9:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [LONGFORD] St.Marys Parish IS there any listings about the People born and christen at St. Marys parish I think it is in lonbroney Longford is so please let me knows thank you [email protected] ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== To contact the listowner send an email to: [email protected]

IS there any listings about the People born and christen at St. Marys parish I think it is in lonbroney Longford is so please let me knows thank you [email protected]

Any info on these two names John GReer born around 1878 longford ireland and Annie Igoe born around 1877 Clonbroney Longford Ireland thank you

Hello, This is my first posting. I am researching Joseph Halligan from Meath and Mary Reynolds from Co Longford. They emigrated to Massachusetts in the early 1900's late 1890's. Would appreciate hearing from anyone with information. Regards, Jo FLA. USA

Mari, I understand Gorteen is not a very big townland and happens to be where my cousin lives, which of the relatives lived there and approx. when and I will ask my cousin ref. them. Susan Mulledy

some census records are at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/census.htm more coming. -----Original Message----- From: MinersOfMourne [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 12:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LONGFORD] BRENNAN <snip> Is there any on-line census data available for Longford? <snip>

Hello LIST I would welcome any advice on where to research the name BRENNAN from Co. Longford. My GGrandmother Mary BRENNAN emmigrated to the US at age 17 with her uncle Bernard Heffernan on the SS Carpathia. They arrived in Ellis Island on September 30, 1904. Both gave their last place of residence as Athlone. 0017. Hefferan, Bernd. M 26y S Carpathia Irish Last residence - Athlone Lab. 0018. Brennan, Mary 17y F S Carpathia Irish Last residence - Athlone Serv. Mary Brennan originated from Longford all all later references quote Longford and not Athlone as her place of birth. I also have a Mass Card for John P Brennan (Mary's brother) and his place of residence is given as Lislea, Kenagh, Co. Longford. I have so many questions......... Is the name BRENNAN common in Longford ? Is there any on-line census data available for Longford? Are there any on-line research sources for Lislea, Kenagh, Co. Longford? All ideas as to where I should look for information would be greatfully received. Fiona. New Jersey, USA. ======= http://www.fipacian.com/MinersofMourne.htm ====== The Miners of Mourne

Sorry, list. I meant to reply directly to Bev. -----Original Message----- From: Agnes M [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 10:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [LONGFORD] ROLL CALL- GORMAN, MULLIN, REILLY Hi Bev, Honestly I don't know if any went to Canada. I have a few in NYC. Did any of your Gormans descend from Gormans in Clonbroney Parish? Particularly, do you have a James Gorman who died abt. 1863 in Listraghee? or a Thomas who died about 1849 there? <snip>

Hi Bev, Honestly I don't know if any went to Canada. I have a few in NYC. Did any of your Gormans descend from Gormans in Clonbroney Parish? Particularly, do you have a James Gorman who died abt. 1863 in Listraghee? or a Thomas who died about 1849 there? I don't go too far back with my Gormans. Earliest info is Thomas and Ann were married and gave birth in the 1820's to Mary, Ann, James, Bridget. I also have a "Maggie" who died in Brooklyn at age 40 in 1889. I can't connect her to anyone but she is buried with the others in Calvary cemetery Queens, NYC.. If any of this rings bells, let me know. Thanks for writing. Agnes -----Original Message----- From: Bev Thomson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 9:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [LONGFORD] ROLL CALL- GORMAN, MULLIN, REILLY Hi Agnes: Saw your post to Longford list re surname GORMAN. Did any of your people of that surname immigr. to Canada? I have quite a few GORMANs there in my data base ca early to mid 1800s. I do not, however, show any MULLIN or REILLY connection(s). Bev