Charles, Maybe I gave the url incorrectly. The correct one is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/ IGP stands for Ireland Genealogy Projects. It is the online project the webpage is associated with. Here is the url for IGP: http://irelandgenealogyprojects.rootsweb.com/ Regards, Christina On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:40:07 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] wrote: | Christina: re Discovery Maps, i tried the URL | (rootsweb.com/~irrlog/ and | nothing came up. | Can you help? What is IGP?

Christina: re Discovery Maps, i tried the URL (rootsweb.com/~irrlog/ and nothing came up. Can you help? What is IGP? Charles Geoffroy

Hi Kathy, Yes he has this map in both of his books. The census index book too (County Longford and its People). I think you are suggesting that buying this book would also reap a townland map because of the recent discussion on how to get maps. That is a good point. Good thinking. Christina On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:01:11 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] wrote: | There is a great folded townland map tucked into a pocket in the | back of the | "County Longford Survivors of the Great Famine" by David Leahy.

Hi Beryl, We did make an announcement about this title when it came out. I also agreed to add a link to the Publisher on our Longford Links page. http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/county.htm I know at least one list member bought the book but don't recall who it was. I think a lot of us got that email this week. Christina On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:47:45 +1000, Beryl O'Gorman wrote: | I received the following info via email this week. Has anyone heard | of this | book? Available as book, CD or download from Internet. I was very | interested | in purchasing, but the postage to Australia from the US is $39.95!!! | And | then $49.95 for the book. A bit too expensive for me. | No connections. Just wondered why I hadn't heard about it around | the traps.

Hi Christina, There is a great folded townland map tucked into a pocket in the back of the "County Longford Survivors of the Great Famine" by David Leahy. Kathy

The Irish Fest in Milwaukee, Wisconsin is huge. There is music, dancing, shows, vendors of many sorts (didn't think about looking for a discovery map last year when I was there - there were many book vendors there though in the genealogy tent), food, travel . . . .all are things to do with Ireland!!! A guaranteed wonderful time!!! Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] help wanted - townlands of Soran, Aughaboy and Kilnacarrow. > Jeanne at [email protected] writes: > > << Surely, they wouldn't be the same the Atlas that we purchased the last > time we went to England/Ireland would they??? >> > > Jeanne, > > You're right - they're not the same. I would guess your Atlas was 1:250,000 > or 1:300,000, whereas the Discovery maps are 1:50,000...........5 to 6 times > larger. The Discovery maps, for example, show all of the rural houses, > driveways, etc. > > << I wonder if this Discovery Map 34 would be available at the Irish Fest I > plan to attend in Milwaukee next month??? >> > > I wonder, too......but, as I don't do any genealogy, I have never been to one > of these activities. However, it would certainly seem like a great place to > sell maps of Ireland. If this is a regular event, I'm sure other listers > would have attended and will be able to let you know. > > Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Some time ago Richard Callanan made me a graphic to help researchers figure out which Discovery map to order for County Tipperary. He has kindly made us a Longford graphic for this purpose. I have added a page to be an aid to ordering Discovery maps for County Longford. You can find it from the menu on the Longford IGP page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/ Choose RESEARCH AIDS. Then MAPS Then scroll down the page to Discovery Map Series. I will add any good online sources for buying the maps that our list members send me. Christina [email protected]

Hi All I received the following info via email this week. Has anyone heard of this book? Available as book, CD or download from Internet. I was very interested in purchasing, but the postage to Australia from the US is $39.95!!! And then $49.95 for the book. A bit too expensive for me. No connections. Just wondered why I hadn't heard about it around the traps. Beryl O'Gorman Greensborough Victoria Australia I am pleased to bring to your attention a new work entitled County Longford Residents Prior to the Famine: A Transcription and Complete Index of the Tithe Applotment Books of County Longford, Ireland (1823 - 1835) by Guy A. Rymsza, available exclusively from Dome Shadow Press <http://www.domeshadowpress.com>. Longford is the first county to enjoy such a thorough examination of the Tithe Books, which serve as an excellent census substitute for the nineteenth-century Irish census returns destroyed in the 1922 bombing of Dublin's Public Record Office. Irish ancestors who may have migrated within Ireland or emigrated to another country during the Famine (1845 - 1850) may now be rediscovered, along with their townlands of origin. County Longford Residents Prior to the Famine is the product of extensive, detailed research, and is much more than a casual transcription. It has received worldwide acclaim from Irish genealogists such as John Grenham of Dublin and Judith Eccles Wight of Utah. Brian Donovan, Publishing Director and co-founder of Eneclann Ltd. in Dublin, has commented that he is "extremely impressed with the work Rymsza has undertaken, as it will provide a quality resource for people using the Tithe Books." A thorough review by Francis Dowling of Otherdays.com appears at his world-class Irish Genealogical Research Web site.

Thanks for this info, I have just found abebooks.co.uk and ordered a copy of this book for £17.78 (english pounds) which includes the faster post service. Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Davies" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:16 AM Subject: [LONGFORD] AN OVERSIGHT > Hello Again Beryl > > I've just noticed that AbeBooks now has an Australian/New Zealand web site: > www.Abebooks.com.au/.co.nz > > Sorry I didn't spot this before. > > Ron Davies > Surrey, BC > Canada > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > To contact the Listowner send email to: > mailto:[email protected] >

Hello Again Beryl I've just noticed that AbeBooks now has an Australian/New Zealand web site: www.Abebooks.com.au/.co.nz Sorry I didn't spot this before. Ron Davies Surrey, BC Canada

Hello Beryl Reference subject book, there's a copy for sale on Abe Books at $29.95 US plus $9.00 shipping US to Australia. This should work out to about Australian $ 55 at current rates `total'. Expensive but better than you cite. Delivery is about a month. Add about $8 US dollars for delivery in 5-8 business days. Copy is used but reputedly in `good' condition and is hardcover. Seller is domiciled in Michigan. There's another copy also from the US but about $10 higher cost `sans shipping'. Go to http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?&tn=Residents+Prior+to+the+Famine&cm_re=A*Search+Box*Form&an=Guy+A.+Rymsza,&imageField.y=15&imageField.x=43&ph=2&sts=t or simply try http://www.abebooks.com/ and enter the words `Residents Prior to the Famine' and the author's name to achieve a successful lookup. I have no financial or personal interest in Abe Books - actually a central communication house connecting sellers and buyers but can say that I've had nothing but good results through Abebooks. Ron Davies Surrey, BC Canada Hope this helps. At 02:47 PM 7/27/04 +1000, you wrote: >Hi All >I received the following info via email this week. Has anyone heard of this >book? Available as book, CD or download from Internet. I was very interested >in purchasing, but the postage to Australia from the US is $39.95!!! And >then $49.95 for the book. A bit too expensive for me. >No connections. Just wondered why I hadn't heard about it around the traps. > >Beryl O'Gorman >Greensborough Victoria Australia > >I am pleased to bring to your attention a new work entitled County Longford >Residents Prior to the Famine: A Transcription and Complete Index of the >Tithe Applotment Books of County Longford, Ireland (1823 - 1835) by Guy A. >Rymsza, available exclusively from Dome Shadow Press

Thank you Lyn. I will update my list. All the best. Christina On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:36:01 +0100, Lynne Christian wrote: | I live in England and have purchased Irish Discovery maps from | www.amazon.co.uk they are also available from www.stanfords.co.uk | who are | based in London. | Regards | Lyn.

Hi Christina, I live in England and have purchased Irish Discovery maps from www.amazon.co.uk they are also available from www.stanfords.co.uk who are based in London. Regards Lyn. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Hunt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 4:16 AM Subject: [LONGFORD] Discovery Map sellers > Last year I collected a list of a few sites that sell Discovery Maps. I checked > the links and had to remove a couple but here are the rest. I was aiming for one > from each county (with a lot of Irish researchers) but have to do another search > to find a new site for England and Australia. I will be glad to update my list > with other sites. > > Ireland: > http://www.irishmaps.ie/ > > U.S.A. > http://www.globecorner.com/welcome.html > > Canada > http://www.interlinkbookshop.com/iremap.htm > > New Zealand > > http://beehivebooks.co.nz/index.htm > > Christina > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > ~It's often a man's mouth broke his nose.~ >

Hi Pete, You are wonderful, and the first person to actually know where Cahanagh is! I have looked on a dozen or so maps and never been able to find it, it must be very small. I have also left messages on lots of websites, including this one, and in over 10 years you are the only person to answer me with the details I was looking for, many many thanks. Regards Lyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] help wanted > Lynne at [email protected] writes: > > << could you tell me if Cahanagh Townland, Clongesh is still there and, if > you have any information on it I would love to know as I intend to visit the > area later this year. >> > > Lynne, > > Cahanagh is still there, just waiting for you to visit !! It's actually a > townland with a convenient crossroads at its center. The crossroads is just 2 > 1/2 miles due north of Longford town, on the R 198 regional road heading north > from Longford to Drumlish and Arvagh. The crossing east-west road connects > Newtown Forbes to the west, through Cahanagh to the R 194 to the east, which > continues on to Ballinalee and Granard. > > Cahanagh is shown on Discovery map 41, together with the 23 to 28 houses (5 > houses close to the border with Lismoy townland) which were there in 1995 when > the map survey was made. All of these Cahanagh buildings are right along the > crossroads and the entire townland is only 163 acres.......so you'll be able > to walk from house to house and make your inquiries (and have a spot of tea > with each of the residents <gr>). > > Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > ~An old broom knows the dirty corners best.~ >

Hi Ellen: I have one small EARLEY ref. Patrick EARLEY s/o James & Sophie SIMON (farmers in Quebec, Canada) b 12 March 1830 Bapt/ 24 March 1830 Godparents: Lawrence O'KELLY & Honora DOONER Hope this might be of some help to you. Bev

Hi Agnes: Sorry to say it but it does not look as though we have a connection re GORMANs. My people start w: Mary GORMAN d/o Patrick & Catherine HAGEN b ca 1835 - ???, Ireland d ca 1901 - buried Ste-Clothilde, Chat., QC + Joseph LEAVY/LEVY s/o Patrick & Mary HICKEY b 16 January 1826 - Longford Parish, Co. Longford d ca 1904 - buried Ste-Clothilde, Chat., QC m 1 May 1860 - St-Antoine, Huntingdon, QC Children: Patrick James; Anne Mary; Henry; Joseph; Catherine; Charles (all b 1863-76 in Quebec,Can.) Apparently Patrick GORMAN & Catherine HAGEN immigr. ca 1836. They had two children Henry & Mary b 1831 & 1835 - ???,Ireland. From ca 1836 - 1852 they had 7 more children: Charles; Edward; Johanna; Patrick; Mary Anne; Bridget; James all b St-Antoine Abbe, Huntingdon Co & St-Jean Chrysostome, Chateauguay Co., QC These surnames are connected via above children's m's: DILLON;POWER;KELLY;HAKA;GAYNER;RYEN;ELLIOT If anything here rings a bell w/you I sure would like to compare notes farther. Bev

Jeanne at [email protected] writes: << Surely, they wouldn't be the same the Atlas that we purchased the last time we went to England/Ireland would they??? >> Jeanne, You're right - they're not the same. I would guess your Atlas was 1:250,000 or 1:300,000, whereas the Discovery maps are 1:50,000...........5 to 6 times larger. The Discovery maps, for example, show all of the rural houses, driveways, etc. << I wonder if this Discovery Map 34 would be available at the Irish Fest I plan to attend in Milwaukee next month??? >> I wonder, too......but, as I don't do any genealogy, I have never been to one of these activities. However, it would certainly seem like a great place to sell maps of Ireland. If this is a regular event, I'm sure other listers would have attended and will be able to let you know. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Lynne at [email protected] writes: << could you tell me if Cahanagh Townland, Clongesh is still there and, if you have any information on it I would love to know as I intend to visit the area later this year. >> Lynne, Cahanagh is still there, just waiting for you to visit !! It's actually a townland with a convenient crossroads at its center. The crossroads is just 2 1/2 miles due north of Longford town, on the R 198 regional road heading north from Longford to Drumlish and Arvagh. The crossing east-west road connects Newtown Forbes to the west, through Cahanagh to the R 194 to the east, which continues on to Ballinalee and Granard. Cahanagh is shown on Discovery map 41, together with the 23 to 28 houses (5 houses close to the border with Lismoy townland) which were there in 1995 when the map survey was made. All of these Cahanagh buildings are right along the crossroads and the entire townland is only 163 acres.......so you'll be able to walk from house to house and make your inquiries (and have a spot of tea with each of the residents <gr>). Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

I wonder if this Discovery Map 34 would be available at the Irish Fest I plan to attend in Milwaukee next month??? Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] help wanted - townlands of Soran, Aughaboy and Kilnacarrow. > Jeanne at [email protected] writes: > > > Are you able to tell me how I would access Discovery map 34? < > > Jeanne, > > If by "access", you mean via the internet.....I think you can forget that. > You'll have to actually buy it, I'm afraid. I usually recommend that people > pick-up these maps at the Tourist Bureau shop at the airport the next time > you're in Ireland. If you want order it from a U.S. (or wherever you are) source, > you could certainly try Google. I think the major source in the U.S. would > be the following: > > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~irish/bookstore/discovery_maps.htm << > > There are others in the U.S., such as omnimap and travelgenie. It would be > nice if Barnes & Noble carried them, but...... > > > Also is anyone able to tell me how I can access historical information on > these townlands? < > > I guess that you mean stuff like landownership, etc. Sounds like genealogy > to me, which leaves me out......but I'm sure others will jump in. > > Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts >

Christina makes it easy. She does all the legwork. -----Original Message----- From: Maureen Casey [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 8:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [LONGFORD] Transcribers Thanks to all of you for the enormous task you have done. Transcribing any of these records is to say the least, a big job! Hats off to you all. Maureen