Someone at [email protected] writes: << According to the web site at http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/placenames/index.cfm it looks like Foslongford is in the civil parish of Kilcommock >> I think I'm going to stick with my earlier letter. I've tried the above URL three times, and get nothing (as with Christina). The seanruad site doesn't mention it. My Excel files of all of the townlands don't show it. It's not on the Discovery maps, and my Townland Index maps - which show all of the townlands and their borders - don't show a Foslongford anywhere in or near the civil (or RC) parish of Kilcommock. The only Google reference is the one mentioned by Christina and, from looking at this list on the Longford website, I think everything there is suspect. Just in the first few entries, we have listings such as Balanock and Bolahare. Balanock is probably Ballyknock, but I can't decipher Bolahare. So I certainly wouldn't trust the Foslongford entry, either. Some of these possibly are local names for areas within actual townlands. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Carolyn, will send you a copy of two messages from my Files which were originally sent to 2 other Ward Name Researchers. Matt Mahady ----- Original Message ----- From: "carolyn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, 13 September 2004 3:36 AM Subject: (new)WARD Hello List I could do with some help with my Ward family Frances Black (nee ward) appears on the 1871 census 30 years with her husband and son in Lancashire. She was born in Longbrd reland - any ideas where that is? I found her with her brother Joseph Ward and sister Elizabeth Bird in 1881 in Hulme where she is 57. I know it is her as her son Alexander is with her and the right age of 22. I would like to find the names of Frances parents. Any help would be great. Carolyn ______________________________

Sean at [email protected] writes: << born in 1865 at Fos Longford in the district of Ballymahon. Cannot find Foslongford on the map >> Sean, Without some other information on possible nearby placenames of other family members, I can only suggest the townland of Furze. It is in the civil parish of Rathreagh in the PLU of Ballymahon (about the same as district, I guess). It would take some odd speech and/or listening habits to convert Furze into Fos.......... but this is Ireland, where all things are "possible" (nay, "probable"). There is a Faus in Co. Roscommon, but in the wrong part and not near the Longford border. Nothing in Westmeath, either. You don't have anything in the way of BMD info for John Derwin's relatives? That might help with the location - especially if it's not a townland name. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Requesting assiatance in finding the date and place of marriage of: SELVEY, Robert to LEIGHTON, Eliza c1850-1856 It is believed that the marriage took place at Longford as the bride lived at Clonbroney parish 1832- to the date of her marriage. Two children were born, Jane c 1857 and Joseph c.1864. Thank you for advise and or guidance. Bill On.Can.

I don't know why but I can't get Foslongford to come up in this database. I tried putting the word in google which found the name on our website <G>. http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/kilcdth_gm.htm It is in Kilcommock. Christina On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 22:28:37 -0700, Anderson wrote: | According to the web site at | http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/placenames/index.cfm it looks | like Foslongford is in the civil parish of Kilcommock, if that | helps any.

Just received a birth certificate for a John Derwin born in 1865 at Fos Longford in the district of Ballymahon. Cannot find Foslongford on the map nor does it show up in the Townland database. Any ideas anyone. Sean

According to the web site at http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/placenames/index.cfm it looks like Foslongford is in the civil parish of Kilcommock, if that helps any. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Farrell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 5:02 PM Subject: [LONGFORD] Fos Longford > Just received a birth certificate for a John Derwin born in 1865 at Fos Longford in the district of Ballymahon. > Cannot find Foslongford on the map nor does it show up in the Townland database. > Any ideas anyone. > Sean >

New Census added this week: Townlands: Tipper Lislom Creevaghmore Derryglogher Cloonard We are using the townland names from the Townland Atlas as there is some variation in spelling. Hope to get a bit more copied today for adding in the next week. To look at the census go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/ Click on CENSUS on the menu. Thanks, Christina P.S. If anyone on the list has access to the census for other townlands we would be glad to use your transcriptions. I can send you a sample spreadsheet to work with. Entering the data is very easy. :)

Hello list Is anyone researching Ward or Rogers family? I am looking for information about: Samuel and Sarah Ward born about 1800ish. Daughters Martha and Ann Ward born in Ireland in 1820's Samuel was a mariner. John and Jane Rogers born about 1800. Daughter Emily born around 1829 Ireland. John a Mariner. Both families went to Liverpool and were there by 1833 when Sarah Ward and Benjamin Rogers were born. They are my Great grand parents. I found a reference to a Sarah Ward (snr) about the right age (73)from Longford Ireland on the 1871 census. I don't know if it my Sarah but like to find out. She was living with her Grandchildren John Black and Frances Black (Who I think was Ward)and their son Alexander. If any one can help me confirm or deny that would be good. If anyone has any ideas to help me I would appreciated it. Carolyn

In a message dated 9/15/2004 9:51:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CARADOC28 writes: > 11 jul 1874 > in serach of James MALONE ,Who left Ireland in June 1869 ,when last heard of > he was in New York Information on him will be recieved by his sister Mary > MALONE 63 Maverick,Chelsea,Ma. > ---------------------------------- > John James MALONE12 jul [email protected] Ave,Revere,[email protected] Ave, Revere > ,Ma.1894- son of John J. [email protected]@Ocean Ave,Revere, Ma ., conductor,1894- > & Dora [email protected]@Ocean Ave,Revere, Ma . 1894- > ---------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------- > Leo H.MAHONEY21 Aug [email protected] blossom,Chelsea,Ma.,[email protected] blossom, > Chelsea,Ma.,1905-son of John [email protected] Boston ,Ma.,[email protected] Boston ,Ma,1881 > [email protected] Boston,Ma.,ShoeFinnisher,[email protected] blossom , Chelsea,Ma.,shoemaker > ,1905-& Agnes L.ROBERTI [email protected] ,Ma.,-rs @Roxbury,Ma.,1881abt-rs170 > Congress,Ave.,Sticher,1904-rs @61 blossom, Chelsea,Ma.,1905- > ------------------------------ > GeorgeROBERTIE son of > wed > MarianBROWNE dau of Thomas JosephBROWNE21 Aug [email protected] Charlestown Ma. > ^[email protected]@Charlestown Ma.^1875-& Mary l.MALONE1 Aug [email protected], Ma > .,[email protected],Ma.,1874-[my grand aunt ] > -------------------------------------- > John [email protected] Leitrim, Ireland-5 Nov [email protected],7mns, 4 > dys,Meningitis,6 Mulberry lane,Chelsea,Ma.,[email protected], West Lothian, > [email protected],[email protected], West Lothian, Scotland . [email protected] > Haven [email protected],[email protected] Leitrim, > [email protected],[email protected],[email protected] Mulberry lane ,Chelsea,Ma.,1887-& > [email protected]@Linlithgow, West Lothian, [email protected], West > Lothian,[email protected] New Haven > [email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected] Chelsea ,Ma.1885- [email protected] Williams Street > Chelsea,Ma.,1886- > they have > Mary l.MALONE1 Aug [email protected], Ma .,[email protected],Ma.,1874- > Bernard MALONE29 Oct [email protected], West Lothian, Scotland [email protected] Linlithgow > , West Lothian, Scotland.1867- > Ann MALONE14 Dec [email protected], West Lothian, [email protected], > West Lothian, Scotland.1869- > John M.MALONE2 Feb [email protected] Haven Conn-7 Aug 1874 @1yr,6mns, 5dys ,Scarlett > Fever,Chelsea Ma.,[email protected] Haven [email protected] Ma.,1874- > James HenryMALONE27 Aug [email protected],Ma-6 Apr [email protected](ANGINA > PECTORIS)[email protected] cross cemetery ,42 nwalnut,2 west,malden [email protected] Chelsea,Ma.1876- wedMartha > Ellen "Kinnon"[email protected] > Catherine AdelaideMALONE17 Jun [email protected],Ma.-1969,Brighton [email protected] 89, Acadamy > Nursing Home AcadamyHill Rd,Brighton,MA.14 Mar 1969holy cross cemetery > Malden [email protected],[email protected],[email protected] , > Ma.,[email protected],Ma.,[email protected] Hill Rd,Brighton, Ma.,1869 wed > James Carroll DENNING1869 Chelsea,Ma,21 LaFayette Ave Chelsea,Ma8 Jun 1934 > @holy cross cemetery Malden [email protected],Ma.,[email protected],Ma. ,1911- > Charles [email protected],[email protected] stroke paralysis, Long > Island Hospital Boston,Ma.- 11 Jun 1964 @holy cross cemetery,malden, ma > [email protected],[email protected],Ma.,[email protected] Hospital Boston,[email protected] > stroke paralysis,LongIsland Hospital Boston,Ma.11 Jun [email protected] cross > cemetery,malden,ma- > Stillborn MALONE > ----------------------------- > > > ------------------- > > > ------------------- > THE CHELSEA REVERE WINTHROP DNA PROJECT > http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=E58068&special=True& > projecttype=G > ----------------- > Jim Denning using dna to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list

In a message dated 9/16/2004 10:40:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Siaoh writes: > Where was your ELLEN KIERNAN from? I have Ellen and her sister ANNIE from > Drumlish County Longford around the same time, 1880s. > Bill Reilly > wouldnt be supprised if they were but i am doing chelsea ma. there are alot of keirnans there alot in my tree. i say they are from chelsea maybe you can tell me if longford was their starting point my dennings were from longford many many chelsea irish were Jim Denning using dna to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list

Hello List I could do with some help with my Ward family Frances Black (nee ward) appears on the 1871 census 30 years with her husband and son in Lancashire. She was born in Longbrd Ireland - any ideas where that is? I found her with her brother Joseph Ward and sister Elizabeth Bird in 1881 in Hulme where she is 57. I know it is her as her son Alexander is with her and the right age of 22. I would like to find the names of Frances parents. Any help would be great. Carolyn

Searching for the marriage of Robert Selvey and Eliza Leighton in the period 1850-1860, possibly in the area of Granard. Two children were born, Jane c 1857 and Joseph c 1864. Family emigrated to Ontario Canada after 1871 and before 1881. Thanks for your help Bill On.Can.

Hi all The following was found on a cemetery transcription for St Paul's Anglican church, Jarvis. This is in Haldimand county, Ontario, Canada. "Daniel CAVANAGH, native of Longford, Ireland , died Jarvis Oct 15, 1879, aged 77 years" Anyone interested ? Sheila Forbes

I HAVE 3500 WHO WENT TO CHELSEA MA AND SOME MOST DISAPPEARED WEST? SOUTH? BACK TO IRELAND? Who knows but maybe they are yours? all variants too Jim Denning using dna to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list

Ernie, the following reference to a Duggan is entirely due to my having collected details on my own Mahady/Caherly Connection. Please let me know if you do find such a connection to your own Duggan Family as I always keep my own records up to date etc. Matt Mahady ------------ MMM 164 Michael CAHERLY married Ann DUGGAN Oct 1837 at Killoe. No other details available at this stage. ------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernie Dugan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, 5 September 2004 11:38 PM Subject: Re: IRL-LONGFORD-D Digest V04 #191 For some reason I can not open any of your attachments......... can you help? I am Ernie Dugan and looking for info on any Dugan (Duggan) who may have ties to Longford....... Thanks for your consideration..............

Hi Dave, I noticed the name Gertrude in your family. I have a Gertrude E. Byrne born in Longford but I haven't as yet been able to tie her to anyone on the list. I think her father was Patrick Byrne. Her brother was John Byrne who moved to the Birmingham area of England. It's a long shot but there may be a connection as there are not too many Gertrude first names coming from Longford as I know. If anyone else on the list has a Gertrude from Longford in there family name between before1880, would you be kind enough to drop me a line. [email protected] All the Best, Paul Broughton

Ernie, My cousin in Ballymahon, Longford is married to a Duggan. Let me know your info and i will contact her for you. She doesn't have a computer so it will be snail mail. contact me. Susan Mulledy

Hi Paul, Yes, my grandmother was Mary Gertrude Creamer, born 1868 in Bathurst, New Brunswick, Canada. Her parents were William Creamer, born 1820 in Co. Longford, and Mary Tamlyn. She was known all her life as "Minnie." She was the last of 9 children, so I suspect they were running out of names, and picked up "Gertrude" from a slightly distant relative or in-law (or movie star). You're right, the name is a bit unusual and could give us some new clues. Stay in touch. Dave Myers At 06:09 AM 9/6/2004, you wrote: >Hi Dave, >I noticed the name Gertrude in your family. I have a Gertrude E. Byrne born >in Longford but I haven't as yet been able to tie her to anyone on the >list. I >think her father was Patrick Byrne. Her brother was John Byrne who moved to >the Birmingham area of England. >It's a long shot but there may be a connection as there are not too many >Gertrude first names coming from Longford as I know. >If anyone else on the list has a Gertrude from Longford in there family name >between before1880, would you be kind enough to drop me a line. >[email protected] > >All the Best, Paul Broughton > > >==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== >~An old broom knows the dirty corners best.~

Uh oh. This is list etiquette day. Please don't include this list in a reply to another list. The original poster has a right not to be quoted elsewhere without their permission. It also makes no sense. No doubt it was just a mistake. Remember to ask permission before you repost from one list to another. If there are any questions about this or my previous message you can email me off list at [email protected] Thanks, Christina On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 09:48:39 -0700, E Macklin wrote: | We have a couple of misconceptions here.