We have results on the three lines DENNING is E3b a not so usual irish R1h Hallopgroup DINNING is a rarer form of the usual Hallopgroup DANAHY is a common form of R1h Hallopgroup DENNING is waiting on mtdna as a participant in the Chelsea Project DENNEHY is starting the process ------------------------------ project news the four lines we have investigating are DENNEHY-Jeremiah Dennihy bn 1835ish & Elizabeth Cahill Castleblah, Ballyhooly, Castletownroche Parish, Co. Cork Ireland. DENNING-James DENNING 1875ish &M. FARRELL Ardagh-Moydow Parish Longford DANAHY-Michael DANAHY abt 1818 maybe CO:Kerry DINNING-John DENNING 1810ish Fermanagh or Tyrone Ireland which line are you from? Jim Denning using dna to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list

I would like to make contact with the person. Does anyone know what his first name would be? Have a partial telephone # (043 2346) am unsure of the remainder of it. Would anybody be able to help me with this? I believe this person is a grocer. Any assistance and or additional information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jeanne (Begley) Pratt ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] help wanted > Jeanne at [email protected] writes: > > << I am particularly looking for the townlands of Soran, Aughaboy and > Kilnacarrow in County Longford (wondered if they are still in existence and if there > locations/borders have changed) >> > > Jeanne, > > They're still there, same as they were when the maps were drawn in the > 1830's. There are two Aghaboys and three Kilnacarrows in Co. Longford, but I think > you want the ones all in a cluster with Soran - in Killoe civil parish. Soran > is the largest of the three townlands - over 1000 acres, and extends from a > point less than a half mile west of Ballinalee town/village, up to the NNW and > NW about two miles from Ballinalee. Kilnacarrow has a tiny border with Soran, > down near the point just west of Ballinalee and extends about a half mile to > the west and SW (it's only 244 acres). But at its western end, it has at > least a quarter mile boundary with Aghaboy (443 acres), which then extends about 2 > miles to the NW. > > So, it is possible to walk from Aghaboy, through Kilnacarrow, to Soran. If > you wanted to go from A. directly to S., you'd have to pass through the > townlands of at least Esker South - and possibly Clontumpher....... a stroll of about > a mile. The general locations of these townlands is shown on Discovery map > 34. If you have any other questions, drop me a line. > > Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts > (Our town has been celebrating it's Bicentennial all week. Big parade > tomorrow.)

Thank you so much for all your efforts and have a wonderful, well-deserved vacation. Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Hunt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 10:19 AM Subject: From Listowner > Hello List(s) > I will be away on a vacation next week. So, I may not be able to answer emails > in a timely fashion. > So, if you don't hear from me or I am slow to put a donation online - that is > why. > > Thanks, > Christina > > ______________________________

How do I get myself taken of the longford roots as I am getting too much e-mail which is not appriopriate to my needs. I am only interested in the name johnstone in longford and not everything else. Thanking you Richard Howison-Johnstone

Don Kelly has agreed to help out and oversee the lists while I am away. If anyone needs help with their subscription you can email Don at: [email protected] Thanks to Don for minding the store while I am away. Christina

Carolyn

Hello List(s) I will be away on a vacation next week. So, I may not be able to answer emails in a timely fashion. So, if you don't hear from me or I am slow to put a donation online - that is why. Thanks, Christina

Hi Christina Why don't you just forget about the list entirely for the next week and truly have a vacation. Enjoy. Ron

Christina, You are the best list-owner in the world and you take wonderful care of us. You deserve every break you can get. Have a wonderful time! Dave Myers At 08:19 AM 9/24/2004, you wrote: >Hello List(s) >I will be away on a vacation next week. So, I may not be able to answer >emails >in a timely fashion. >So, if you don't hear from me or I am slow to put a donation online - that is >why.

Carolyn

I am a little new to the internet and my geneology search. Not sure what some of your msg's mean..........is this a request to drop the periodic postings I review? ----- Original Message ----- From: "carolyn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 3:46 PM Subject: [LONGFORD] unsubscribe > > Carolyn > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > ~An old broom knows the dirty corners best.~ > >

> Living at 3 Cobden Terrace, Hackney, London > John Henry THOMPSON ________Head _38 {Railway Policeman} __born 1833, Co. > Leitrim - > Ann THOMPSON _____________Wife _28 __________born Co. Cavan - 1843 > Alexander THOMPSON ________ son __9 Scholar ____born Co. > eitrim - 1862 > THOMAS WILLIAM THOMPSON _ son ___7 Scholar ___ born Co. Longford - > 1864 > Joseph Henry THOMPSON ______ son ___5 Scholar ___ born Islington, > Middlesex > Robert John THOMPSON ______ son ___3 _________ born Islington, > Middlesex > Arabella THOMPSON _______daughter __2 ___________born Islington, > Middlesex >

the dna has a first entry and these are the names associated with her line if you have chelsea,revere,winthrop people with names associated with these you might want to join the project <A HREF="http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Chelsea.Revere.Winthrop.Ma">http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Chelsea.Revere.Winthrop.Ma</A> Frederick Murphy b. Augusta, Me./Patrick Dinneen/Mary Crowley were grparents. they ended up in Chelsea too? John Murphy, Michael's Murphy brother. WilliamMURPHY @nova scotia [email protected] ave chelsea,ma.,weaver, 1891-& [email protected] brunswick [email protected] ave chelsea,ma., 1891- they have son JohnP.MURPHY31 Jan [email protected] scotia [email protected] ave chelsea,ma - rs @cresent ave,chelsea,ma.,1891- target names =dineen-crowley-murphy-fredricton,n.b.-holland-dolan-grant-farrell-dunphey Jim Denning using dna to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list

Success! many thanks again to one and all. So it did exist. The only living relative I know of in Ireland lives in Ledwithstown and I'll lay a pound to a Euro she's never heard of it. At least now I can pin it down on a map. Many thanks Sean

--- Original Message --- From: "whitt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: Sent: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 05:22:34 -0600 Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [LONGFORD] Re: Foslongford | Christine, Sean and others; | | | I bought the Co. Longford Griffiths Valuation CD. | With this CD are included Maps. | In the Map for Kilcommock Parish I found 'Faslongford' in small | type connected with Ledwithstown townland, bordering Shrule and | Cashel Parishes. It must be a subdivision or an alternative name | for the townland. I think it is most likely a subdivision [a | particular homestead - group of buildings]. | | Ray <snip>

Andy, You struck on one of the names I'm researching. The Mulleady's could you please give me the website for the death records (foslongford)??? Thanks, Susan Mulledy

Susan: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/kilcdth_gm.htm That's the specific page with the death records. Go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog and do a search for Mulleady (with variant spellings). Looks like there are at least 10 references to the name. Try all the variant spellings you can think of. If you haven't already done so, you should do a general web search for the surname on the Webferret or Google search engines. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] Re: Foslongford/Mulleady > Andy, > > You struck on one of the names I'm researching. The Mulleady's could you > please give me the website for the death records (foslongford)??? > > Thanks, > > Susan Mulledy > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: Send email to [email protected] > Put ONLY the word unsubscribe in the message. > For digest the address is [email protected] > [If you take the LIST you can't unsub from the DIGEST & vice versa] > >

Many thanks to all who replied. At the nth attempt I managed to get into http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/placenames/index.cfm but no place called Foslongford exists although the sender, Anderson, states it is in Kilcommock - which is very likely as that is where the family definately are a couple of years later (Derryadd). I was tending to go along with Niall and Pete's suggestion that it is a mis-spelling of someplace but then list mum Christina puts a spanner in the works by finding it in the death columns of Kilcommock. Strangely it is not listed in any of the birth or marriage lists, nor Griffiths. It existed but very briefly. I think I'll have to go along with pete's suggestion that it might be a location within a more familiar named townland - does Fos mean anything in Irish? Many thanks for all those who took the trouble of helping me. Sean

Christine, Sean and others: I'm sorry for the confusion with that Irish Place Names URL. It was the last web site I looked at in my search for Foslongford. The only hit I got at Webferret and Google for Foslongford was at Christine's web site, showing it in that list of Kilcommock Parish death records. Then I checked the Irish Place Names site at http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/placenames/index.cfm That site did NOT yield the name Foslongford, but almost all of the 30+ village names ("townland" names, I guess you're calling them) that appeared in the Kilcommock death list were listed either at that place names site as being in Kilcommock Parish, or they showed up (most with spelling variations) in the map of Kilcommock Parish at http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/tmoffatt/KilcomMoymap.html . That's why I said "it looks like" Foslongford was in Kilcommock Civil Parish. In my earlier message I should have said it "was" or "had been" there rather than "is" there, as it obviously isn't in Kilcommock Parish now. The only other townland names from the Kilcommock death list that I can't find on the parish map are Balihare (or Bolihere or Bohilere), Snugborough and Cornahugh. There is a Snugborough today in Co Cavan. With eight references to Foslongford, all spelled the same way, in the Kilcommock death list, it would not appear to be a mistake or a misspelling of some other townland name. It and each of these others may have gotten absorbed by an adjacent townland or undergone a name change. Possibly Foslongford changed its name to avoid confusion with the town of Longford. Maybe old Irish post office records would be a place to check, if such exist, or the Longford Heritage Centre. That Kilcommock Parish map is hard to read in spots, and I can't make out all the townland names, even with a magnifying glass. Foslongford may show up on it, but if so it's illegible for me. I didn't notice an indication of when the map was made. Surnames from Foslongford in the death list were Hardin, Kearny, Kelly, Kiely and Maleady/Mulleady. Andy Anderson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Farrell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 3:47 PM Subject: [LONGFORD] Re: Foslongford > Many thanks to all who replied. > At the nth attempt I managed to get into http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/placenames/index.cfm > but no place called Foslongford exists although the sender, Anderson, states it is in Kilcommock - which is very likely as that is where the family definately are a couple of years later (Derryadd). > I was tending to go along with Niall and Pete's suggestion that it is a mis-spelling of someplace but then list mum Christina puts a spanner in the works by finding it in the death columns of Kilcommock. Strangely it is not listed in any of the birth or marriage lists, nor Griffiths. It existed but very briefly. I think I'll have to go along with pete's suggestion that it might be a location within a more familiar named townland - does Fos mean anything in Irish? > Many thanks for all those who took the trouble of helping me. > Sean > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: Send email to [email protected] > Put ONLY the word unsubscribe in the message. > For digest the address is [email protected] > [If you take the LIST you can't unsub from the DIGEST & vice versa] > > Balanock Bolahare/Bolihere/Bohilere. *** Corlea/Curlea Clonbreany/Clonbraney (Cloonbreany) Corrina/Corina. (Corryena) Coolnahinch Clough. (Clogh) Cornahugh. *** Creagh. Curnacart (Cornacarta) Cury/Curry Derad. (Derryad) Derriveigh/Deryneagh (Derryveagh) Derohill. (Derryoghil) Faragh/Foyagh (Foygh) Foslongford Foslongford. Foslongford. Foslongford. Foslongford. Foslongford. Foslongford Kearny, Rosa Foslongford. Glenmore. Kilcomogue. Knockavegan Kenagh Kilcommack/Kilcommock Lisglasack. Lislea Laughill. Lislum Ledwithstown. Lisglasock. Laughloony/Loughloony Mostown/Mosstown Napogue (Knappoge) Snugborough. Tipper.

Yes, in Irish, " fos " with an accent over the 'o' means "yet" or "still" (Could this mean that Foslongford is on the border of Longford but is "still" Longford?) " fos " without the accent has other meanings: as a noun meaning " (state of) rest, stop or stay" It can also mean "steadiness, perseverance, control, restraint". Above acc. to O'Donaill dictionary of Irish - English. -----Original Message----- From: Sean Farrell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 6:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [LONGFORD] Re: Foslongford Many thanks to all who replied. At the nth attempt I managed to get into http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/placenames/index.cfm but no place called Foslongford exists although the sender, Anderson, states it is in Kilcommock - which is very likely as that is where the family definately are a couple of years later (Derryadd). I was tending to go along with Niall and Pete's suggestion that it is a mis-spelling of someplace but then list mum Christina puts a spanner in the works by finding it in the death columns of Kilcommock. Strangely it is not listed in any of the birth or marriage lists, nor Griffiths. It existed but very briefly. I think I'll have to go along with pete's suggestion that it might be a location within a more familiar named townland - does Fos mean anything in Irish? Many thanks for all those who took the trouble of helping me. Sean ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Send email to [email protected] Put ONLY the word unsubscribe in the message. For digest the address is [email protected] [If you take the LIST you can't unsub from the DIGEST & vice versa]