In a message dated 10/22/2004 7:33:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Sorry I seem to have come into this subject at the end of it. Is this true > DNA or is it trying to determine where in Ireland specific surnames were/are > prevalent??? > Its a list where you can go and talk about dna and why you shpuld or shouldnt do it and what bennifits you might recieve by doing it. there are other dna lists for the technical aspects of dna . this is have a place to find out about it Jim Denning using dna to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list

Great news for all those interested in this project. [email protected] wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >IRL-LONGFORD-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 217 > >Today's Topics: > #1 A new mailing list has been starte [[email protected]] > #2 unsubscribe ["carolyn" <[email protected]>] > #3 Re: [LONGFORD] A new mailing list [[email protected]] > #4 Re: [LONGFORD] A new mailing list [[email protected]] > >Administrivia: > > > > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > A new mailing list has been started at rootsweb.com. > From: > [email protected] > Date: > Thu, 21 Oct 2004 00:58:42 EDT > To: > [email protected] > > >A new mailing list has been started at rootsweb.com.Its name is IRISH-DNA-L >and IRISH-DNA-D. The goal of this list is to provide a place for light >conversation on the results of Irish Surname Projects. Enabling people new to DNA >projects to see how they can bennefit with out getting too technical. >you can subscribe by sending an email titled Subscribe to either >[email protected] >[email protected] > > >Jim Denning >using dna to connect >Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- >carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug >h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M >a.-sprague- and ever growing list > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > unsubscribe > From: > "carolyn" <[email protected]> > Date: > Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:14:48 +0100 > To: > [email protected] > > >Carolyn > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [LONGFORD] A new mailing list has been started at rootsweb.com. > From: > [email protected] > Date: > Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:41:45 EDT > To: > [email protected] > > >Jim, > >I for one thank you for setting up a list for this, it will help a lot in >going forward trying to find connections to other ends of my family in Ireland. > >Susan Mulledy > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [LONGFORD] A new mailing list has been started at rootsweb.com. > From: > [email protected] > Date: > Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:05:07 EDT > To: > [email protected] > > >In a message dated 10/21/2004 11:42:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > > > > >>Jim, >> >>I for one thank you for setting up a list for this, it will help a lot in >>going forward trying to find connections to other ends of my family in >>Ireland. >> >> >> >> > >its is a help to us to reach people who dont know about it and a help to >the list owners caught in the middle :) and to people who just want to know >about it >this is as much a part of genealogy as igi or giffith valuation sites and >researchers but like list owners we dont get paid >only in results hopefully >:) > >Jim Denning >using dna to connect >Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- >carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug >h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M >a.-sprague- and ever growing list > >

I am enquiring again whether anybody has found any connections in their lines to the OLLARD family, said to be bootmakers along the canal? Could be allied to ALLARD, perhaps. Go well! Ivy Trott in South Africa.

Sorry I seem to have come into this subject at the end of it. Is this true DNA or is it trying to determine where in Ireland specific surnames were/are prevalent??? Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:58 PM Subject: A new mailing list has been started at rootsweb.com. > A new mailing list has been started at rootsweb.com.Its name is IRISH-DNA-L > and IRISH-DNA-D. The goal of this list is to provide a place for light > conversation on the results of Irish Surname Projects. Enabling people new to DNA > projects to see how they can bennefit with out getting too technical. > you can subscribe by sending an email titled Subscribe to either > [email protected] > [email protected] > > > Jim Denning > using dna to connect > Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinnin g- > carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mch ug > h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop ,M > a.-sprague- and ever growing list > > ______________________________

Jim Denning- I noticed the name Farrell on your surname list. Is there a chance you're descended from Hubert Ferril (1500's) of County Longford? His son, Brian, came to America as an indentured servant. -- laurie wicker-proctor

In a message dated 10/21/2004 2:36:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Jim Denning- I noticed the name Farrell on your surname list. Is there a > chance you're descended from Hubert Ferril (1500's) of County Longford? > His son, Brian, came to America as an indentured servant. > -- > laurie wicker-proctor > ARDAGH-MOYDOW PARISH MARRIAGES Year Husband Wife 1793/7Denning, PatrickJames M. Farrell************* Patrick JamesDENNING july 1793 you wouldnt have anything on these do you? <wishing you do> Jim Denning using dna to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list

In a message dated 10/21/2004 2:36:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Jim Denning- I noticed the name Farrell on your surname list. Is there a > chance you're descended from Hubert Ferril (1500's) of County Longford? > His son, Brian, came to America as an indentured servant. > -- maybe ARDAGH-MOYDOW PARISH MARRIAGES Year Husband Wife 1793/7Denning, PatrickJames M. Farrell************* Patrick JamesDENNING july 1793 Jim Denning using dna to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list

Carolyn

In a message dated 10/21/2004 11:42:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > Jim, > > I for one thank you for setting up a list for this, it will help a lot in > going forward trying to find connections to other ends of my family in > Ireland. > > its is a help to us to reach people who dont know about it and a help to the list owners caught in the middle :) and to people who just want to know about it this is as much a part of genealogy as igi or giffith valuation sites and researchers but like list owners we dont get paid only in results hopefully :) Jim Denning using dna to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list

Jim, I for one thank you for setting up a list for this, it will help a lot in going forward trying to find connections to other ends of my family in Ireland. Susan Mulledy

A new mailing list has been started at rootsweb.com.Its name is IRISH-DNA-L and IRISH-DNA-D. The goal of this list is to provide a place for light conversation on the results of Irish Surname Projects. Enabling people new to DNA projects to see how they can bennefit with out getting too technical. you can subscribe by sending an email titled Subscribe to either [email protected] [email protected] Jim Denning using dna to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list

Hi there, We have added some new census files this week to the IGP County Longford website. Rathmore in Noughaval Parish Carrow Beg in Cashel West D.E.D. Carrowdunican & Carrowmore in Cashel South D.E.D. http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/census/index.htm Regards, Christina

Thank You! Enough said about DNA.

I am closing the topic of DNA studies as of today. Thanks! Any questions contact me off list: [email protected] Christina Listowner Irl-Longford -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

In a message dated 10/15/2004 12:17:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Hi, I am descended from Curtis & Farrell. What is this project all about? > Carrie in Ca There are dna studys and two types of dna male and female . The usual type is male because the y dna is past from father to son and basicly doesnt change much in thousands of years. So you can shoot out a straight line and connect with matches . These matches have probablities by how much they match the more they match the closer they are Female mtdna is passes from mother to son he doesnt pass it on and mom to daughter they do pass it on. So you have your moms mtdna your brother if you have one has you moms mtdna and his dads ydna your daughters and sons will get your moms dna thru you .Your brothers sons get your dads dna I hope thats clear These projects like FARRELL are usually ydna with the hope to find some common ancestor. lets say there are 50 farrell males in ARDAGH Ireland where the Farrell Clan is located and I bet there is. You could test them and see if they are all decended from the same Farrell. Now if they tested these FARRELLS and lets say there are two separate ydnas close but separate. Now a FARRELL from Chelsea Ma. could test ,along with a Farrell from VA. John B. FARLEY's line tests, and one of yours from CA. You could find that all three are from Longford. Now maybe they match one or the other lines of FARRELLS either way you just found a ton of cousins. And the more FARRELLS that join expands the amount of FARRELLS lines that connect .and you get more FARRELLS . Do you see the picture? Maybe we find decedents of the two males in Ardagh MTDNA Suppose you are a member of the Chelsea dna project and you are a female CURTIS and you have connected up to my DENNING cluster. Your a ggggg grand daughter of the Kate FARLY mentioned in the original post.I have the cluster in front of me and I see a direct line of Pink lines from Kate to you. You should have Kate's mtdna. Now this cluster is over 200 families in size and streches across my computor screen kate had say three daughters .Turns out they went in separate directions with some grand daughter marring a LYNCH who already was in the cluster. So that line shoots across the screen. So today when her grand daughter lives in Virgina,this lady also has a line of pink lines going back to Kate farley. Both of you whould have kate FARLEY'S mtdna but not her name FARLEY This is how the chelsea project will work. Now not all clusters are that big and some are suggestive of conections. Due to the fact 1880 and before. Maiden names were only on marriage records I have tons of Mary ,Margrets ,Eliza, Ann and others mtdna can conect to these too You can read more information from the link below. Probably the best since you are not really tied to Chelsea is if you have a brother get his dna tested because you can do your dads and moms dna with him. In the study for his Surname. Most companies keep the original sample and allow you to slowly upgrade til you get what you want. Both projects will show alot but the mtdna needs documentations to probably connect unless you have paper work and a good knowledge of the conection URL: <A HREF="http://www.familytreedna.com/public/FARRELL%20DNA%20Project/">http://www.familytreedna.com/public/FARRELL%20DNA%20Project/</A> TITLE: The FARRELL DNA Project DESCRIPTION: Are you a Farrell,Farley or a variantlets get you in to see where you are connectedall variants welcomed Project Goals:to get all the branchs of the world connected on one tree. why dont you get your branch started now. HIGHLIGHTS: FARRELL FARLEY DNA SURNAME STUDY Jim Denning using dna to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list

In a message dated 10/15/2004 1:29:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Mjcgenlbc writes: > > Hi! What Farley line are you from? My mother was a Farley from the > Farley's from VA. John B. FARLEY, b 1648 in Virginia. Could this be the same > line? > > Mike Curtis. > > PS. I belong to the CURTIS DNA study Project through FTDNA. > i am a Denning but farleys and farrells abound in ardagh ARDAGH-MOYDOW PARISH MARRIAGES Year Husband Wife 1793/7Denning, PatrickJames M. Farrell************* Patrick JamesDENNING july 1793 later married a Mary CARROLL Ambrose [email protected] wed Kate "Katherine" FARLEY [email protected],[cfdr][email protected],Natural Causes ,Chelsea,[email protected],[email protected] ash,Chelsea,[email protected],Ma.married,1885-dau of Thomas FARLEY @ireland- [email protected],1812abt- & [email protected]@Ireland1812abt ambrse is the son of patrick james and brother to my ggggranddad James "DINNEN"DENNINGaug [email protected] wed Mary CARLON I run the DENNING project Chelsea Ma . Project and the FARRELL someone asked me if there was one so i said no but if you want one i'll start it hoping someoneor some org might do it. so far its mine and they didnt join lol . thats ok I'll do it til someone wants to. Now the Chelsea Project is different i use kith kin pro 3.1 so i am limited on how many people in a tre about 12000 i have 30 tres of people about 80,000 names this study is designed for mtdna women or men but the female dna i will take men ydna too. i have fourty FARLEY families in one tre.I have 35 00 dennings not a common name With this level of documentation mtdna will be a real tool to help connect what i have and to smash brick walls Jim Denning using dna to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list

I have updated the Irish books section of my website with new books and lookup volunteers. Many on the list visited Ireland over the Summer and probably brought home a new book or two. If you are like me, you needed to buy a new bag to carry them all home :-) Maybe some new parish history books have been published that is not included in the Parish History books section. So, check out the books listed and if you find you have books that are not listed, you can use the convenient form on the bottom of each page to submit them. I will then include your book with my next update. Of course, you need not be a lookup volunteer, if you list a book. Thanks to all who have made this website so successful. You can find the links at the bottom of this page: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/books/ Also, if you find a book that you might like to buy, on this page are many bookstore links, many located in Ireland. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

For those of you who have not attempted to set up filters to handle your email I thought I would mention that most email programs have this ability. I have so much email coming in from lists and garbage email that I have folders set up to catch, for instance, all List Mail. I have a mail box set up just for lists. I am on a lot of lists and there are some lists that I want to glance at but not have the messages clutter up my In Box, so a couple of lists I have go to my Trash Mail Box. I still check the messages but they are ready to go away fast. <G> You can set up filters to automatically delete emails from persons or domains that you don't want. I found one site explaining how to do this for several email programs: http://www.cyberwalker.net/columns/jan04/270104.html This one is for Outlook Express and has pictures which I always like: http://www.webterrace.com/outlook/filter.htm This is one way to take control over your email and listmail. Have fun! Christina

Has anyone got any information about the Shanley family in Leitrim around 1750 to 1840 I have a Williiam THOMPSON who may have been born in Drumery , Killanummery about 1800 and Married an unknown SHANLEY in 1830 ish. I do not know where she was buried but it was about 1870. Important places may be Killanummery, Carrick-on-Shannon, Mohill or Newton Forbes; or any neighbouring areas like Cloone, Clongesh et cetera. The family ended up in Mohill. I have come to a standstill on this one. Ray

<A HREF="http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Denning&variants">http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Denning&variants</A> We have results on the three lines DENNING is E3b a not so usual irish R1h Hallopgroup DINNING is a rarer form of the usual Hallopgroup DANAHY is a common form of R1h Hallopgroup DENNING is waiting on mtdna as a participant in the Chelsea Project DENNEHY is starting the process ------------------------------ project news the four lines we have investigating are DENNEHY-Jeremiah Dennihy bn 1835ish & Elizabeth Cahill Castleblah, Ballyhooly, Castletownroche Parish, Co. Cork Ireland. DENNING-James DENNING 1875ish &M. FARRELL Ardagh-Moydow Parish Longford DANAHY-Michael DANAHY abt 1818 maybe CO:Kerry DINNING-John DENNING 1810ish Fermanagh or Tyrone Ireland which line are you from? Jim Denning Jim Denning using dna to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list