In a message dated 12/29/2004 5:19:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I have an Ann JUDGE (1875-1953) who married Edward Mears about1895, > probably in Ballina (Kilmoremoy Parish) , which was in Co. Sligo until > 1898, and then in Co. Mayo. I know nothing about her family or place of > origin. > > David Myers [Mears], Guadalupe, AZ USA if you match you should join MACHELSEA-L Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using dna to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list

Thank you David, it was kind of you to look this up and reply. But the search goes on :)) All my best for the New Year. Mike Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: David A. Myers To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] researching the JUDGE family name I have an Ann JUDGE (1875-1953) who married Edward Mears about1895, probably in Ballina (Kilmoremoy Parish) , which was in Co. Sligo until 1898, and then in Co. Mayo. I know nothing about her family or place of origin. David Myers [Mears], Guadalupe, AZ USA At 02:38 PM 12/29/2004, [email protected] wrote: >In a message dated 12/29/2004 4:26:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > > > > My names from Ireland are DONEGAN, JUDGE, SPENCER, FITZMORRIS and GAFFNEY. > > But some are from Kildare and others I don't know where they originated > from. > > But the following JUDGE information might be of helped. I found this last > > week. > > > > My GGGrandmother Bridget JUDGE born 1833 was listed in the 1861 Salford, > > Lancashire, England census as being born in Roscommon. I eventually > found she > > had a brother named Bernard born in Longford, Roscommon through the > 1881 census > > for Hulme, Manchester, England. Her wedding certificate in Manchester > shows > > her fathers name as William. > > > > Bernard her brother appeared to have used a naming pattern for his > children > > and if this is correct its possible their mothers name was Elizabeth. > > > >i have judges who married this way in chelsea which is where tons of middle >irish people came leitrim longford mesths rosscommon sligo carvan >[email protected],Co:Sligo [email protected]@ >Ma.,[email protected],Ma.,grocer,1855-wed MarySESSNON1809 [email protected] ireland-6 Mar >[email protected],old age,13 Gilmore,Chelsea,[email protected] >@[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],Ma ., >[email protected] >Gilmore,Chelsea,Ma.1889- >they have >William J.JUDGE1 Aug [email protected],[email protected],Ma.1854- >Catherine "Kate" "Denning"JUDGE[1861abt]@Chelsea,Ma. wedPhillipCASSIDY 1852 >abt @[email protected]@Chelsea,Ma.,laborer,[email protected] Williams >,Chelsea,[email protected],[email protected] Williams ,Chelsea , Ma. >[email protected] >Williams ,Chelsea,Ma.1896- >Robert [email protected],[email protected],1867abt- >Mary JaneJUDGE22 Dec 1863[1865abt]@Chelsea,Ma.,[email protected],Ma.,1863- >JamesJUDGE9 Aug [email protected],[email protected],Ma.1858- >JamesJUDGE1843abt brother to >Michael [email protected],Co:Sligo [email protected]@Toenia Schuyler, county,Mo., 1873- >Ann [email protected] [email protected] > >MarySESSNON1809 [email protected] ireland-6 Mar [email protected],old age,13 Gilmore,Chelsea, >[email protected] @[email protected],[email protected] Chelsea , Ma. >[email protected],Ma ., [email protected] Gilmore,Chelsea,Ma.1889- remarried James >DENNING >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist >using dna to connect >Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- >carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug >h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M >a.- and ever an growing list > > > >==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== >To check on locations try: >http://www.seanruad.com ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== To check on locations try: http://www.seanruad.com

Hello Jim, Many thanks for your response but I am sorry to say I found your information was confusing the way it was mixed in with what looked like an e-mail address. I assume my computer was confused with your use of the @ amongst your information. Kind regards. Mike Morris ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] researching the JUDGE family name In a message dated 12/29/2004 4:26:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > My names from Ireland are DONEGAN, JUDGE, SPENCER, FITZMORRIS and GAFFNEY. > But some are from Kildare and others I don't know where they originated from. > But the following JUDGE information might be of helped. I found this last > week. > > My GGGrandmother Bridget JUDGE born 1833 was listed in the 1861 Salford, > Lancashire, England census as being born in Roscommon. I eventually found she > had a brother named Bernard born in Longford, Roscommon through the 1881 census > for Hulme, Manchester, England. Her wedding certificate in Manchester shows > her fathers name as William. > > Bernard her brother appeared to have used a naming pattern for his children > and if this is correct its possible their mothers name was Elizabeth. > i have judges who married this way in chelsea which is where tons of middle irish people came leitrim longford mesths rosscommon sligo carvan [email protected],Co:Sligo [email protected]@ Ma.,[email protected],Ma.,grocer,1855-wed MarySESSNON1809 [email protected] ireland-6 Mar [email protected],old age,13 Gilmore,Chelsea,[email protected] @[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],Ma ., [email protected] Gilmore,Chelsea,Ma.1889- they have William J.JUDGE1 Aug [email protected],[email protected],Ma.1854- Catherine "Kate" "Denning"JUDGE[1861abt]@Chelsea,Ma. wedPhillipCASSIDY 1852 abt @[email protected]@Chelsea,Ma.,laborer,[email protected] Williams ,Chelsea,[email protected],[email protected] Williams ,Chelsea , Ma. [email protected] Williams ,Chelsea,Ma.1896- Robert [email protected],[email protected],1867abt- Mary JaneJUDGE22 Dec 1863[1865abt]@Chelsea,Ma.,[email protected],Ma.,1863- JamesJUDGE9 Aug [email protected],[email protected],Ma.1858- JamesJUDGE1843abt brother to Michael [email protected],Co:Sligo [email protected]@Toenia Schuyler, county,Mo., 1873- Ann [email protected] [email protected] MarySESSNON1809 [email protected] ireland-6 Mar [email protected],old age,13 Gilmore,Chelsea, [email protected] @[email protected],[email protected] Chelsea , Ma. [email protected],Ma ., [email protected] Gilmore,Chelsea,Ma.1889- remarried James DENNING ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using dna to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== To check on locations try: http://www.seanruad.com

In a message dated 12/29/2004 4:26:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > My names from Ireland are DONEGAN, JUDGE, SPENCER, FITZMORRIS and GAFFNEY. > But some are from Kildare and others I don't know where they originated from. > But the following JUDGE information might be of helped. I found this last > week. > > My GGGrandmother Bridget JUDGE born 1833 was listed in the 1861 Salford, > Lancashire, England census as being born in Roscommon. I eventually found she > had a brother named Bernard born in Longford, Roscommon through the 1881 census > for Hulme, Manchester, England. Her wedding certificate in Manchester shows > her fathers name as William. > > Bernard her brother appeared to have used a naming pattern for his children > and if this is correct its possible their mothers name was Elizabeth. > i have judges who married this way in chelsea which is where tons of middle irish people came leitrim longford mesths rosscommon sligo carvan [email protected],Co:Sligo [email protected]@ Ma.,[email protected],Ma.,grocer,1855-wed MarySESSNON1809 [email protected] ireland-6 Mar [email protected],old age,13 Gilmore,Chelsea,[email protected] @[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],Ma ., [email protected] Gilmore,Chelsea,Ma.1889- they have William J.JUDGE1 Aug [email protected],[email protected],Ma.1854- Catherine "Kate" "Denning"JUDGE[1861abt]@Chelsea,Ma. wedPhillipCASSIDY 1852 abt @[email protected]@Chelsea,Ma.,laborer,[email protected] Williams ,Chelsea,[email protected],[email protected] Williams ,Chelsea , Ma. [email protected] Williams ,Chelsea,Ma.1896- Robert [email protected],[email protected],1867abt- Mary JaneJUDGE22 Dec 1863[1865abt]@Chelsea,Ma.,[email protected],Ma.,1863- JamesJUDGE9 Aug [email protected],[email protected],Ma.1858- JamesJUDGE1843abt brother to Michael [email protected],Co:Sligo [email protected]@Toenia Schuyler, county,Mo., 1873- Ann [email protected] [email protected] MarySESSNON1809 [email protected] ireland-6 Mar [email protected],old age,13 Gilmore,Chelsea, [email protected] @[email protected],[email protected] Chelsea , Ma. [email protected],Ma ., [email protected] Gilmore,Chelsea,Ma.1889- remarried James DENNING ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using dna to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list

Hello List and Christina, I am a new member living in Toronto Canada. I am originally from Manchester England and have been using the internet and Rootsweb for about 5 years searching for various branches of my family. Interestingly enough I have found most of the branches are from Ireland, they arrived around the 1840's in to the Manchester and Salford area of Lancashire England. My family name I have since discovered was FITZMORRIS and was changed in England in 1856 to MORRIS. My names from Ireland are DONEGAN, JUDGE, SPENCER, FITZMORRIS and GAFFNEY. But some are from Kildare and others I don't know where they originated from. But the following JUDGE information might be of helped. I found this last week. My GGGrandmother Bridget JUDGE born 1833 was listed in the 1861 Salford, Lancashire, England census as being born in Roscommon. I eventually found she had a brother named Bernard born in Longford, Roscommon through the 1881 census for Hulme, Manchester, England. Her wedding certificate in Manchester shows her fathers name as William. Bernard her brother appeared to have used a naming pattern for his children and if this is correct its possible their mothers name was Elizabeth. From the above information can any List member say if they have come across this family in Roscommon? Kind regards Michael/Mike Morris Toronto Canada

I have an Ann JUDGE (1875-1953) who married Edward Mears about1895, probably in Ballina (Kilmoremoy Parish) , which was in Co. Sligo until 1898, and then in Co. Mayo. I know nothing about her family or place of origin. David Myers [Mears], Guadalupe, AZ USA At 02:38 PM 12/29/2004, [email protected] wrote: >In a message dated 12/29/2004 4:26:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > > > > My names from Ireland are DONEGAN, JUDGE, SPENCER, FITZMORRIS and GAFFNEY. > > But some are from Kildare and others I don't know where they originated > from. > > But the following JUDGE information might be of helped. I found this last > > week. > > > > My GGGrandmother Bridget JUDGE born 1833 was listed in the 1861 Salford, > > Lancashire, England census as being born in Roscommon. I eventually > found she > > had a brother named Bernard born in Longford, Roscommon through the > 1881 census > > for Hulme, Manchester, England. Her wedding certificate in Manchester > shows > > her fathers name as William. > > > > Bernard her brother appeared to have used a naming pattern for his > children > > and if this is correct its possible their mothers name was Elizabeth. > > > >i have judges who married this way in chelsea which is where tons of middle >irish people came leitrim longford mesths rosscommon sligo carvan >[email protected],Co:Sligo [email protected]@ >Ma.,[email protected],Ma.,grocer,1855-wed MarySESSNON1809 [email protected] ireland-6 Mar >[email protected],old age,13 Gilmore,Chelsea,[email protected] >@[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],Ma ., >[email protected] >Gilmore,Chelsea,Ma.1889- >they have >William J.JUDGE1 Aug [email protected],[email protected],Ma.1854- >Catherine "Kate" "Denning"JUDGE[1861abt]@Chelsea,Ma. wedPhillipCASSIDY 1852 >abt @[email protected]@Chelsea,Ma.,laborer,[email protected] Williams >,Chelsea,[email protected],[email protected] Williams ,Chelsea , Ma. >[email protected] >Williams ,Chelsea,Ma.1896- >Robert [email protected],[email protected],1867abt- >Mary JaneJUDGE22 Dec 1863[1865abt]@Chelsea,Ma.,[email protected],Ma.,1863- >JamesJUDGE9 Aug [email protected],[email protected],Ma.1858- >JamesJUDGE1843abt brother to >Michael [email protected],Co:Sligo [email protected]@Toenia Schuyler, county,Mo., 1873- >Ann [email protected] [email protected] > >MarySESSNON1809 [email protected] ireland-6 Mar [email protected],old age,13 Gilmore,Chelsea, >[email protected] @[email protected],[email protected] Chelsea , Ma. >[email protected],Ma ., [email protected] Gilmore,Chelsea,Ma.1889- remarried James >DENNING >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist >using dna to connect >Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- >carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug >h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M >a.- and ever an growing list > > > >==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== >To check on locations try: >http://www.seanruad.com

In a message dated 12/25/2004 10:39:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > National stupidity has a > very large price to be paid, including any country that alligned themselves > with the German cause in both Wars. > the enemy of my enemy is my friend thats the force that christianized britany and startedthe first above ground church in the world glastonbury Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using dna to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list

In a message dated 12/25/2004 10:39:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > In order to promote "the lets get up and go" on this little item of some > 180++ Journals and the effort of others who have used the Journals as a > guide to their own area of special interest, including Galway and Cork and > Wicklow, including the efforts of the Cantwells, both father and son, [and J > S Clarke for that matter] these Journals represent the last great frontier > of Irish genealogy written in some form of stone, marble and concrete. Being > illegible to the human eye is the last excuse one would tolerate in this day > of electro photo enhancement and digital enhancement. Even older stones that > have been retrieved from blow ground. A great many stones have had their > etchings successfully retrieved over the years. If we can do it in Egypt, > and the great standing stones of the Vikings then a few stones a couple of > hundred years old is "a piece of cake". So we'll hear no more of this is this olgham Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using dna to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list

Good evening Syl: In order to promote "the lets get up and go" on this little item of some 180++ Journals and the effort of others who have used the Journals as a guide to their own area of special interest, including Galway and Cork and Wicklow, including the efforts of the Cantwells, both father and son, [and J S Clarke for that matter] these Journals represent the last great frontier of Irish genealogy written in some form of stone, marble and concrete. Being illegible to the human eye is the last excuse one would tolerate in this day of electro photo enhancement and digital enhancement. Even older stones that have been retrieved from blow ground. A great many stones have had their etchings successfully retrieved over the years. If we can do it in Egypt, and the great standing stones of the Vikings then a few stones a couple of hundred years old is "a piece of cake". So we'll hear no more of this nonsense from others especially in regards to stones cut since the 1800's Having said that, and knowing that Eneclann is working on the data base with Trinity Archives [probably one of the few complete Journal sets] is all we need to know. Searching via cemeteries is a total waste of time in this day and age. Eneclann [one clan] has assured our Foundation that once completed that is will be searchable by surname and will take another year of so. My recommendation is to cheer Eneclann on, to diarize the process every other month and ask them to finish the job, not only for ourselves, but for those genealogical enthusiast to come after us. Eric In regards to other grave yards here in Canada, the Japanese grave yards where removed especially in BC and transfered to a central location and the stones preserved in memorial walls during the War and for very good reason. The same held true of a couple of German cemeteries in Ontario, especially any military cemeteries. Most of the German war graves were moved to Kitchener Ontario which used to be called Berlin. National stupidity has a very large price to be paid, including any country that alligned themselves with the German cause in both Wars.

Dear Eric, The records for county Galway that are available on a cd from Eneclann have nothing to do with the 'Journal of the Memorials to the Dead' - the Galway and partial Mayo transcriptions that have been published on cd were transcribed by Mr. Ian Cantwell, son of Mr. Brian Cantwell (RIP) I'm not familiar with Ian's work - unless he is the person who transcribed parts of County Clare - some of our libraries do have a copy of this. His father, Mr. Brian Cantwell transcribed graveyards in counties Wexford and Wicklow - he also worked on some Dublin graveyards. Brian read stones that were dated pre 1880 and he also read any stones in what seemed to be family plots that post dated 1880. As far as I know, he read only those stones that were legible when he visited any graveyard. He was a very thorough man as regards graveyards he visited and he checked the Journal of the Memorials of the Dead in order to compare his readings with those that had been transcribed in the past. For any graveyard that had been transcribed, Brian listed differences or gave the information on stones that he had not read but somebody else had in the past. Brian transcribed hundreds of graveyards - there are about 10 or eleven volumes of gravestone transcriptions for counties Wexford and Wicklow - these works took him at least ten years to bring to publication. For all of those graveyards, I could count the number of times he has notes of differences between his work and any that he found in the Journal of the Memorials to the Dead on ten fingers. Over the last twenty to thirty years, advisory notes to those who would transcribe gravestones have been published in the 'Irish Genealogist' - any advise given was always to have a cut off date of 1880. Cork - take a look at the publications of Henchion in the Journal of the Cork Archaeological and historical Society - wonderful. Mr. Henchion sought out living people in the localities he transcribed graveyards in and also researched re families in literature - he gives a synopsis for the genealogy of families who he had more to add on at the end of each of his transcriptions. All people that I know of who have transcribed any graveyard in the last 50 years, compare their notes to those published in the Journal of the Memorials to the Dead. Many of these are published in journals Irish Ancestor, the Irish Genealogist, Clogher Record - these two journals have the publications for many counties - or the journal of the Irish Family History Society (Kildare particularly in this journal). On the shelves in the NAI lie publications on Dublin, alongside Brian Cantwells Wicklow and Wexford works. What is today known as the Genealogical Society of Ireland and had once a different name has published on some of Dublins bigger graveyards. For Carlow, the Irish Country Women's Association published a number of volumes of transcriptions a few years ago. Clare and Limerick are two counties that also spring to mind as regards volunteer bodies who have transcribed graveyards in their locality. Journal of the Waterford Archaeological & Historical Society, JKilkennyAHS, JGalwayAHS, Louth JAHS - For county Down - you have all the volumes published of transcribed graveayards there - published probbaly in the last ten years - maybe five - compiled by R.S.J.Clarke and published by the Ulster historical Foundation. Volume 1 includes graveyards around Belfast City. If I had time, then I could check all my records/files and probably name a lot more people, places and counties that work has been done in - for the moment, all I can ask is that if I have forgotten any/many - please forgive me You have never seen a copy of the Journal of the Memorials to the Dead - the notes written by the people who were dedicated enough to go to graveayards around the country along with whatever they transcribed in whichever graveyard they visited. All stones were not transcribed. According to those who have visited the same graveyards since, readings were at times inaccurate. Many many graveyards in Ireland have been transcribed by dedicated people - and more have been transcribed by dedicated people in the last 50 years than ever before. It would be great to see the works of those who did transcribe graveyards pre 1915 published, it would be great to recognise the work that they did do. They transcribed counties in spots - as best they could, given the time they had. They did not transcribe every single stone standing or laying flat. Publications in the Irish Ancestor can be accessed by purchasing the Irish Ancestor cd from Eneclann............publications in the Clogher Record can possibly be accessed by becoming a member of the Society - same for the Irish Genealogist. Armagh - you have Seanchas Ardmhaca - sorry, I may have forgotten to mention that there are gravestone publications in that journal - then there is whatever is to be founf in the other journals that have societies which publish them. Eneclann could publish the information that is contained in the actual 'Journal of the Memorials to the Dead' - but not these others. Every person can access any publication in any journal simply through inter-library request - or, in some instances, the transcriptions have been published on the internet - especially on rootsweb genealogy lists. As far as I know, the Latter Day Saints Library has copies of Brian Cantwells 'Memorials to the Dead' for Wicklow and Wexford - they also have copies of the ''Journal to the Memorials for the Dead" and any person who wants to, who lives outside Ireland can access these by going to their local Family History Library and ordering copies of these films from the LDS. There are no transcriptions for everywhere in any county Eric..................else why would all the people who ahve transcribed graveyards in the past 50 years have bothered. Brian Cantwell did not spend 10-15 years of his life transcribing Wexford and Wicklow if someone had done it before him To any person who would want to encourage Eneclann to publish documented gravestone material - I would ask you to please check if there is a society associated with the county of your interest - be it titled Archaeologial & Historical - be it Genealogical - Family...........whatever. Please check with them as to what is available for your county. Then, write to Eneclann. Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "E Macklin" <[email protected]> To: "Wallbank" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Cc: "Cathy Joynt Labath" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; "[email protected] web.com" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 5:59 PM Subject: Memorials to the Dead > Good morning everyone: Re: Journals of the Memorials to the Dead - Ireland

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Dear Carol: I can help with this one. These last two days have been absolutely wonderful in supplying new links to my collateral lines. I thank all "shirt-tail" relatives, as my mother used to call them, who have shared such valuable information. Father Malachy Reynolds was the brother of Bridget Reynolds, my great-great-great-grandmother. Another sister, married one of the Greagh Kennys; she is your direct ancestor. Your Great-Aunt Bridget was probably named for her. Incidentally you are correct about Father Malachy's will; the Reynolds family tried and failed to break the will in the High Court in Longford when Father Malachy died in 1881. The stakes were high: he left the four Kennys 800 pounds sterling each, which was a fortune for each at a time when the median household income in rural Ireland was less than 10 pounds a year. (Father Malachy is buried in the old cemetery in Drumlish.) Here is a brief summary of other interesting information about this particular Reynolds family. They came from Cartron Upper, County Longford. Father Malachy was born in 1800, which helps to place him and his siblings in time. I have not been able to discover the baptismal names of his parents, but his mother was a McDonnell (or McDonald). In addition to the sister who married the Kenny, his other sisters were Bridget, mentioned above; Catherine, who married my great-great-great-great-uncle, John Conefrey, of Fearglass South, County Leitrim, and two additional sisters who traveled with Father Malachy when he left for New Brunswick in the mid 1830's as a missionary priest. There was also a brother, Stephen, who emigrated to the United States and became a butcher in Brooklyn. Back to Father Malachy. He studied for the priesthood at the Irish College in Paris. He was back in Ireland as a curate in 1824 but then left immediately again for Paris to pursue advanced education. In the late 1820's he obtained an exeat from the Diocese of Ardagh to go to the New Brunswick mission field, which was then under the jurisdiction of the Diocese of Halifax. He apparently returned to Ireland after about five years, since he again appears as a curate in the Diocese of Ardagh in 1834. (His career--and, certainly, his career mobility--cannot have been harmed by the fact that his sister Bridget, my ancestor, was married to the nephew of Bishop William Higgins of Ardagh and Clonmacnoise.) However, by 1838 he was back in Canada. In that year he went to Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, to visit his cousin (a McDonnell/McDonald), who was then pastor of the Charlottetown parish. His cousin was already very ill--it sounds as if tuberculosis was the culprit--and soon died. Father Malachy was asked to take his place. He was splendidly qualified for the job, because he was fluent in Irish, English, and French, which covered the all the linguistic backgrounds found among immigrants to the island. Once he settled in, he seems to have run a sort of integrated-social-service program for Irish immigrants, meeting all of the arriving boats from Ireland and finding immigrants land to rent, locating places for them to live in the meantime, and dispensing emergency relief supplies. At the same time he was deeply involved in several other service projects that tell something about what was in his head: he raised money for the building of the Charlottetown cathedral when PEI was separated from the Diocese of Halifax, he appears on the rosters of meetings in Halifax in support of repeal of the Act of Union, and he raised money for relief of victims of the Irish Famine of 1845-52. He retired once to Ireland and was then persuaded to return to PEI. That time he went to Kikora, an Irish-immigrant community, in the west end of the Island. There he organized the building of St. Malachy's Church. The Vicar General of the Diocese of Charlottetown told me that local tradition is that the church was named St. Malachy's to honor Father Malachy as much as to honor the saint. My brother and I made a trip to PEI in 2001 to visit the places connected with Father Malachy's service there, and I have written our findings up and embedded photos of places of family interest. Since I cannot send attachments to this list, if you will contact me off list, I will send you a copy, provided you do not have antispam software in place that will cause the file to bounce. If the latter is the case, we can discuss how we can get around that problem. Merry Christmas. Nancy Gray -------------- Original message from <[email protected]>: -------------- > I just recently found out that the Kenny's of Greagh, Drumlish were related > to the Rev. Malachy Reynolds. My great grandfather was Malachy Kenny and > his spouse was Anne Hughes. Their children that I know of were John, > Michael, Thomas, Bridget who married a Kellegher and my grandmother Anne who > emmigrated to N.Y. in 1896. The Rev. Reynolds named Michael & John of > Greagh and John & Peter Kenny of Drumacron in his will. If you know how the > Kenny's are connected to the Rev. Reynoldds I would appreciate knowing. > > Thank you, > Carol A. Campbell > Boca Raton, Fl. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 2:00 PM > Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] Bishop Higgins > > > > Dear Claire, > > > > I think I may be able to help you quite a lot. I am descended from > > Catherine > > Higgins, sister to your great-great-grandmother. In the course of the > > past > > ten years of trial-and-error, seat-of-the-pants genealogical research, I > > have > > located over a thousand of your cousins--although some of them are pretty > > distant, given that the connection stems from the turn of the 19th > > century. > > Through our common ancestral line, you are also related by blood or by > > marriage to the Reynolds (McRannall) family of Longford, once the local > > chieftains in the Drumlish area--probably several times over, as I am--the > > Kanes (probably originally refugees from the sectarian disturbances in > > County > > Armagh in 1793), and the Conefreys of Leitrim/Longford. Here is are some > > of > > the highlights of what I have found. > > > > Bishop Higgins (and your great-great-grandmother) probably also had > > another > > sister who married someone named Nicolls. The bishop officiated at > > another > > marriage in 1830 in Longford Town for which I have found a record, rather > > unusual for a sitting bishop of the time to do unless one of the bridal > > company was a relative, especially since his residence was still in > > Ballymahon > > at the time. > > > > Your great-great-grandmother had a brother (whose baptismal name I have > > not > > yet been able to find out) who fathered another William Higgins who > > volunteered as a missionary priest in Diocese of Demerara, essentially the > > present country of Guiana. He went to the mission field knowing that he > > probably would not survive his service there; recruiters who came to > > Maynooth > > to seek volunteers were quite frank in saying that almost all of the > > priests > > previously active in the diocese had died of malaria or yellow fever and > > that > > replacements were urgently needed. As it happened, he did not die--he was > > one > > of only two survivors of that volunteer group--and came to the United > > States, > > where he served in the Archdiocese of Cincinnati and as a military > > chaplain in > > the Civil War until his death. > > > > Bishop Higgins received his early education in hedge schools, although > > tradition has it that his mother taught him to read--which is absolutely > > amazing if true, because illiteracy among female Catholic Irish of the > > time > > was well over 90%. The bishop himself left Ireland to study for the > > priesthood in about 1800. Although the national Catholic seminary at > > Maynooth > > had been established in 1795 as a concession by the British to Catholics > > to > > keep them from joining the Protestant minority in the latter's drive for > > greater political rights, Irish clerical preparation was not yet > > considered to > > be on a par with that which was available on the continent. > > > > William Higgins went first to the Irish College in Paris where he > > witnessed > > the final stages of the French Revolutionary period. This experience > > seems to > > have had a lasting effect on his attitudes. Until the end of his life, he > > remained adamant that the Irish should use parliamentary means--rather > > than > > foreign intervention and violence like that which culminated in the Battle > > of > > Ballinamuck in 1798--to secure civil equity. > > > > Ordained for the Diocese of Ardagh and Clonmacnoise in France, he went on > > to > > the Irish College in Rome, where he received his doctorate, and then to > > Vienna. He returned to Ireland in 1824 and taught theology at Maynooth > > College, which was then in the process of upgrading its educational > > quality. > > > > In 1828, with Catholic Emancipation imminent, he was consecrated bishop in > > Ballymahon (in the South of County Longford), which was at the time the > > episcopal seat. Once Catholic Emancipation was a reality, Bishop Higgins > > began a lifetime of work of providing the diocese with permanent, > > impressive > > (the only word for it) church buildings to replace those that had been > > confiscated during the Reformation, with the goal of raising the profile > > of > > the now fully legal Church among a people who had until fairly recently > > had to > > attend Mass (which was legally prohibited under the Penal Laws until the > > Catholic Relief Acts of the 1770's) in secluded spots in the great > > outdoors. > > He raised the money for the building of St. Mel's Cathedral in Longford > > Town > > and laid the foundation stone in 1840. (Unfortunately, the cathedral was > > not > > completed during his lifetime because work ground to a halt during the > > Famine > > period of 1845-52.) > > > > Another of his preoccupations was to provide the diocese with an adequate > > number of well educated clergy and to found schools for the Catholic > > population in general. He had the original idea for St. Mel's College, > > which > > he intended as a seminary--a purpose that it did serve during its early > > years. > > St. Mel's College still exists today opposite the cathedral, but it has > > long > > since become an elite private school offering both lay and clerical > > education > > for young men. The College was not completed during Bishop Higgins' > > lifetime > > because of the Famine either. > > > > A third passion of the bishop was the Repeal of the Act of Union of 1800, > > enacted in response to the Irish rebellion and French intervention of > > 1798, > > that dissolved the Irish Parliament and brought Ireland under the direct > > rule > > of Westminster. A lifelong friend of the great Daniel O'Connell, he spoke > > at > > one of O'Connell's pro-repeal "monster meetings" in Mullingar (County West > > Meath). > > > > This past summer, with the gracious permission of the incumbant Bishop of > > Ardagh, I was able to spend several days examining the papers of Bishop > > Higgins that have survived. I am still working my way through a thick > > sheaf > > of copies. However, I am already in a position to draw some conclusions > > from > > them. However he acquired it, Bishop Higgins was phenominally well > > educated > > for the times or, for that matter, for any time. He wrote English, > > French, > > Italian, and Latin flawlessly. (Presumably his Irish was flawless also, > > but > > I am not qualified to pass judgment on that.) He presented his arguments > > logically, displaying a comprehensive grasp of the learning of his time. > > His > > letters display a finely tuned knack for Church and secular politics. He > > was > > fearless and persistent in defending the interests of the downtrodden > > Catholic > > population against potentially detrimental measures by the great > > Protestant > > landlords, particularly the Earls of Granard and Leitrim. Sadly, in the! > > end, the Famine destroyed him psychologically several years before he > > died > > in the physical sense, but he made a valiant effort to hold on until the > > end > > and to provide such succor as he could to the population committed to his > > care. > > > > I have masses of documentary material that you might find interesting. > > Please > > contact me off list and let us see how I can get it to you. Some of the > > files > > are very large because they contain numerous family-related photographs > > and > > might strain the limits of what you can receive via email. > > > > Welcome to the family. What a nice Christmas present it is for me to > > receive > > this wholly unexpected opportunity to open up another collateral line in > > the > > genealogical table I have been working on for so long. > > > > Nancy Gray > > > > Original message from "White, Claire - SOL" : > > -------------- > > > > > >> > >> I have just learned that my great great grandfather, John Brady, of > > Clonbroney > >> parish, married Margaret Higgins in Drumlish RC Parish on May 4, 1831. > >> They > >> were married by William Higgins, Bishop of Ardagh, who was Margaret's > >> brother. Can someone suggest to me where I might find more information on > >> that Higgins family? Thanks. Claire Brady White > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > >> To contact the listowner send an email to: > >> [email protected] > >> > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.957 (20041222) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.nod32.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > > ~God is good, but never dance in a small boat.~ > > > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > To contact the listowner send an email to: > [email protected] >

i dont know much these books buit i am very interested in establishing the progession of the names based on dnn. to ireland from scotland to socland from england to england from europe . thats basicly why i did the project i am not supposed to talk about and wont in honor of the group leader who i respect. would these books help me find anything along that line if so where could i get them Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using dna to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list

I just recently found out that the Kenny's of Greagh, Drumlish were related to the Rev. Malachy Reynolds. My great grandfather was Malachy Kenny and his spouse was Anne Hughes. Their children that I know of were John, Michael, Thomas, Bridget who married a Kellegher and my grandmother Anne who emmigrated to N.Y. in 1896. The Rev. Reynolds named Michael & John of Greagh and John & Peter Kenny of Drumacron in his will. If you know how the Kenny's are connected to the Rev. Reynoldds I would appreciate knowing. Thank you, Carol A. Campbell Boca Raton, Fl. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] Bishop Higgins > Dear Claire, > > I think I may be able to help you quite a lot. I am descended from > Catherine > Higgins, sister to your great-great-grandmother. In the course of the > past > ten years of trial-and-error, seat-of-the-pants genealogical research, I > have > located over a thousand of your cousins--although some of them are pretty > distant, given that the connection stems from the turn of the 19th > century. > Through our common ancestral line, you are also related by blood or by > marriage to the Reynolds (McRannall) family of Longford, once the local > chieftains in the Drumlish area--probably several times over, as I am--the > Kanes (probably originally refugees from the sectarian disturbances in > County > Armagh in 1793), and the Conefreys of Leitrim/Longford. Here is are some > of > the highlights of what I have found. > > Bishop Higgins (and your great-great-grandmother) probably also had > another > sister who married someone named Nicolls. The bishop officiated at > another > marriage in 1830 in Longford Town for which I have found a record, rather > unusual for a sitting bishop of the time to do unless one of the bridal > company was a relative, especially since his residence was still in > Ballymahon > at the time. > > Your great-great-grandmother had a brother (whose baptismal name I have > not > yet been able to find out) who fathered another William Higgins who > volunteered as a missionary priest in Diocese of Demerara, essentially the > present country of Guiana. He went to the mission field knowing that he > probably would not survive his service there; recruiters who came to > Maynooth > to seek volunteers were quite frank in saying that almost all of the > priests > previously active in the diocese had died of malaria or yellow fever and > that > replacements were urgently needed. As it happened, he did not die--he was > one > of only two survivors of that volunteer group--and came to the United > States, > where he served in the Archdiocese of Cincinnati and as a military > chaplain in > the Civil War until his death. > > Bishop Higgins received his early education in hedge schools, although > tradition has it that his mother taught him to read--which is absolutely > amazing if true, because illiteracy among female Catholic Irish of the > time > was well over 90%. The bishop himself left Ireland to study for the > priesthood in about 1800. Although the national Catholic seminary at > Maynooth > had been established in 1795 as a concession by the British to Catholics > to > keep them from joining the Protestant minority in the latter's drive for > greater political rights, Irish clerical preparation was not yet > considered to > be on a par with that which was available on the continent. > > William Higgins went first to the Irish College in Paris where he > witnessed > the final stages of the French Revolutionary period. This experience > seems to > have had a lasting effect on his attitudes. Until the end of his life, he > remained adamant that the Irish should use parliamentary means--rather > than > foreign intervention and violence like that which culminated in the Battle > of > Ballinamuck in 1798--to secure civil equity. > > Ordained for the Diocese of Ardagh and Clonmacnoise in France, he went on > to > the Irish College in Rome, where he received his doctorate, and then to > Vienna. He returned to Ireland in 1824 and taught theology at Maynooth > College, which was then in the process of upgrading its educational > quality. > > In 1828, with Catholic Emancipation imminent, he was consecrated bishop in > Ballymahon (in the South of County Longford), which was at the time the > episcopal seat. Once Catholic Emancipation was a reality, Bishop Higgins > began a lifetime of work of providing the diocese with permanent, > impressive > (the only word for it) church buildings to replace those that had been > confiscated during the Reformation, with the goal of raising the profile > of > the now fully legal Church among a people who had until fairly recently > had to > attend Mass (which was legally prohibited under the Penal Laws until the > Catholic Relief Acts of the 1770's) in secluded spots in the great > outdoors. > He raised the money for the building of St. Mel's Cathedral in Longford > Town > and laid the foundation stone in 1840. (Unfortunately, the cathedral was > not > completed during his lifetime because work ground to a halt during the > Famine > period of 1845-52.) > > Another of his preoccupations was to provide the diocese with an adequate > number of well educated clergy and to found schools for the Catholic > population in general. He had the original idea for St. Mel's College, > which > he intended as a seminary--a purpose that it did serve during its early > years. > St. Mel's College still exists today opposite the cathedral, but it has > long > since become an elite private school offering both lay and clerical > education > for young men. The College was not completed during Bishop Higgins' > lifetime > because of the Famine either. > > A third passion of the bishop was the Repeal of the Act of Union of 1800, > enacted in response to the Irish rebellion and French intervention of > 1798, > that dissolved the Irish Parliament and brought Ireland under the direct > rule > of Westminster. A lifelong friend of the great Daniel O'Connell, he spoke > at > one of O'Connell's pro-repeal "monster meetings" in Mullingar (County West > Meath). > > This past summer, with the gracious permission of the incumbant Bishop of > Ardagh, I was able to spend several days examining the papers of Bishop > Higgins that have survived. I am still working my way through a thick > sheaf > of copies. However, I am already in a position to draw some conclusions > from > them. However he acquired it, Bishop Higgins was phenominally well > educated > for the times or, for that matter, for any time. He wrote English, > French, > Italian, and Latin flawlessly. (Presumably his Irish was flawless also, > but > I am not qualified to pass judgment on that.) He presented his arguments > logically, displaying a comprehensive grasp of the learning of his time. > His > letters display a finely tuned knack for Church and secular politics. He > was > fearless and persistent in defending the interests of the downtrodden > Catholic > population against potentially detrimental measures by the great > Protestant > landlords, particularly the Earls of Granard and Leitrim. Sadly, in the! > end, the Famine destroyed him psychologically several years before he > died > in the physical sense, but he made a valiant effort to hold on until the > end > and to provide such succor as he could to the population committed to his > care. > > I have masses of documentary material that you might find interesting. > Please > contact me off list and let us see how I can get it to you. Some of the > files > are very large because they contain numerous family-related photographs > and > might strain the limits of what you can receive via email. > > Welcome to the family. What a nice Christmas present it is for me to > receive > this wholly unexpected opportunity to open up another collateral line in > the > genealogical table I have been working on for so long. > > Nancy Gray > > Original message from "White, Claire - SOL" <[email protected]>: > -------------- > > >> >> I have just learned that my great great grandfather, John Brady, of > Clonbroney >> parish, married Margaret Higgins in Drumlish RC Parish on May 4, 1831. >> They >> were married by William Higgins, Bishop of Ardagh, who was Margaret's >> brother. Can someone suggest to me where I might find more information on >> that Higgins family? Thanks. Claire Brady White >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== >> To contact the listowner send an email to: >> [email protected] >> > > > __________ NOD32 1.957 (20041222) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > > > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > ~God is good, but never dance in a small boat.~ >

My Huggins/Higgins ancestors were from Ardagh....I start with John Huggins who married Catherine Moffatt in Ardagh in 1740...John Huggins had a son John Huggins, esq..who lived in Richmont, ...I have no info on his wife...but I do know he had a son, Dr. John Huggins who also lived in Richmont b. in 1787...married Jemima Moffatt...had no children....married again to Ann Monfort after Jemima died....no children....I have a copy of his will....he had a sister..Margaret Huggins who married George McCord and a brother Andrew Huggins...from the letters I have, Dr. John Huggins was my gggreat grandmother's uncle....also from the letters from Co. Longford, we know Ann had brothers John and Andrew, and a sister Prudence Huggins who married Richard Butler....Im still working on the Huggins line...I have Ann's marriage certificate...her name was spelled Higgins....all Ann's relatives lived in Ardagh in 1700's and early 1800's....Im very interested in William Higgins...he is placed in Ardagh and may be related......

Christina, Merry Christmas and every good wish for 2005. A big thank you goes with this Christmas wish for your hard work during the year, it really is appreciated. Kind regards Mary Wall ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Hunt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:43 PM Subject: [LONGFORD] Happy Christmas >I want to wish all our list members a joyous Christmas and lots of success >in > the new year. > ~Merry Christmas~ > Christina > > *<:-)> > (Santa) > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=IRL-LONGFORD >

Christina and all other list members Have a very merry and blessed Christmas Bill Morris

Bennachti na Nolag Slan abhaile (Christmas Blessings. Safe home.) Michael Noonan -----Original Message----- From: Agnes M [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 8:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [LONGFORD] Irish "Merry Christmas" Failte romhat agus Nollaig mhaith duit! You're welcome and Merry Christmas! Agneis -----Original Message----- From: Anderson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 2:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [LONGFORD] Irish "Merry Christmas" Thank you, Agnes, for the pronunciations and for the web site. Some web sites do identify the version I gave [Nollaig chridheil agus bliadhna mhath ùr] as being Scots Gaelic, as you pointed out. According to various sites one Irish version is: Nolag mhaith dhuit agus bliain nua fe mhaise. Interesting to compare these words for Christmas: Irish "Nolag", variously spelled; Welsh "Nadolig" Italian "Natale". Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Agnes M" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 2:08 PM Subject: RE: [LONGFORD] Gaelic pronunciation requested > I've studied some Irish but that looks like Scottish Gaelic to me. It's > similar but there are mulitple differences. > > Nollaig (Christmas) pron. "Null-ig" > > Chridheil ( I don't know what that means or how to pronounce it; I don't > think it's Irish.) > > agus means "and" pron. "ogg-us" > > Bliadhna means "year" pron. "blee-uh-nuh" with emphasis on the first > syllable. > > mhath means "well" or "good" - pron wah (yes, it has a "w" sound) > > Ur = n pron "oor" > > But better than that, check out http://www.daltai.com/home.htm If you > click on the phrases in Irish and turn up your speakers, you'll hear it > spoken by a native speaker. > > Agnes > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anderson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 12:58 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [LONGFORD] Gaelic pronunciation requested > > > Nollaig chridheil agus bliadhna mhath ùr! > > Anybody on this List proficient in Gaelic? The above is said to mean > Merry > Christmas and Happy New Year. I'd appreciate it if someone could offer a > phonetic transcription so I can pronounce it correctly. Thanks in > advance. > > Nollaig Chridheil! And, to paraphrase Tiny Tim: "Athair ar Neamh, Dia > linn". > > Andy > > > > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > ~It's often a man's mouth broke his nose.~ > > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: Send email to [email protected] > Put ONLY the word unsubscribe in the message. > For digest the address is [email protected] > [If you take the LIST you can't unsub from the DIGEST & vice versa] > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=IRL-LONGFORD ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== ~It's often a man's mouth broke his nose.~

William Higgins was a Catholic bishop. He would not have been eligible to attend Trinity and did not in fact do so. However, I found your sourcing for Church of Ireland clergymen potentially interesting. Thank you. Nancy Gray -------------- Original message from Rachel & Robert H Smith <[email protected]>: -------------- > Re Bishop Higgins, Researching Clergy > > Claire: > > Write to > Librarian > Representative Church Body Library > Braemor Park, Rathgar, Dublin 14 > > Ask whether Bishop William Higgins is listed in Canon James Leslie's > Biographical Index of the Clergy of the Church of Ireland and request a > photocopy of his entry. Give all particulars that you do know. It is > appropriate to send a contribution to pay for someones' time and copying > as well as a couple of International Response Coupons for postage. You > will receive a page with a sumary of his education, his career, his > marriage, and children. > > Bishop Higgins was almost certainly educated at Trinity College and will > be listed in their alumni record, Alumni Dublinenses. This record will > give his father's name, the county he came from, advanced degrees, > profession, sometimes positions or honors achieved. > Write to > Trinity College Library > College Street > Dublin 2 > Again, you should send International Response Coupons and something for > the researcher's time and copying. Via Google check their website to > find what amount is expected for this service. Ask for copies of all > the pages of Higgins. You may find listed several generations of a > family, grandfathers, fathers and brothers, who went to Trinity. > > Rachel Smith > ___________ > > > I have just learned that my great great grandfather, John Brady, of Clonbroney > parish, married Margaret Higgins in Drumlish RC Parish on May 4, 1831. They > were married by William Higgins, Bishop of Ardagh, who was Margaret's > brother. Can someone suggest to me where I might find more information on > that Higgins family? Thanks. Claire Brady White > > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > To find other Irish county web pages visit IGP: > http://irelandgenealogyprojects.rootsweb.com > __________ NOD32 1.957 (20041222) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com