<A HREF="http://www.nrg.com.au/~pod/tree.html">http://www.nrg.com.au/~pod/tree.html</A> ANYONE KNOW ABOUT THIS THOMAS DENNING he seems by the year of birth to possibly the brother to ARDAGH-MOYDOW PARISH MARRIAGES Year Husband Wife 1793/7 Denning, Patrick James M. Farrell************* Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list

Christina, What do you have on Warrington's in longford area? Alice

You are right, Pete! As you see, I am no further forward but yours is still a precious clue. Yesterday I did a long session at the computer on Ollard in general. Precious few seem to have drawn attention to themselves and somehow the computer seems to put names like P Ollard and C Ollard when the name is actually Pollard or Collard, which does not help much. Just in case there is anyone out there also looking, I found a fleeting mention of a ROBERT PEPYS OLLARD but was unable to pin it down. On May 7, 1857 a Mr. Frederick W. Ollard, a passenger to Newfoundland, died after three days of intense seasickness - that was reported in the Irish American newspaper. I had seen this before, and did a bit of research in Newfoundland just in case, but nothing came of it. Somebody in Brandon, Manitoba came from Tyrone Co., Ireland in 1846 with his father and brothers, and on February 7, 1893 he married MARY ADELAIDE C OLLARD - or was this also Collard? - but I didn't find his name. A HENRY J. OLLARD was a Staff Paymaster, ship Garnet, and I found him on a list of Royal Navy Ships in Service 1894 which was transcribed in New Zealand. I suspect that he would be an Essex Ollard, and therefore not one of our line, but one never knows until one finds out for sure... Then - I found a reference to OLLARD WESTCOMBE and they are a firm in Cork right now, according to the Home Page. Well, well, well! We'll certainly try to go into that. Have to work out the difference in shop-opening time between South Africa and Ireland. Ours open at 8.30 am usually. Gets lighter much earlier. There is an ELIZABETH OLLARD, or was, working in the Department of Education in Northern Ireland and I've sent an e-mail to the Department... S L OLLARD wrote a paper on the Oxford Movement in 1939 but so far I haven't found him anywhere else. Lollard is a name, also! Of course, many of these are uncontactable anyway, but there seems to be a glimmer of hope. Watch this space. Thank you for all the help, Listers. I've heard from some of you off list, and it has been very encouraging. Go well! Ivy. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 12:55 AM Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] Drumlish: Sheridan/Masterson/Brady/Rorke/Duffy/Reilly > Jane at [email protected] writes: > > << Is the canal near Leitrim by any chance? I guess that the Ollards come > from Drumlish. >> in response to Ivy's letter.......... << I'm told > they were > cobblers and lived along the canal.... I know there is an Allard Bridge > somewhere there >> > > Jane, > > I think I was the person who found Allard's Bridge for Ivy a few years ago > <gr>. It's located on the Royal Canal a mile and a half west of > Abbeyshrule and > about three miles NE of Ballymahon. > > Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western > Massachusetts > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.12 - Release Date: 14/01/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.12 - Release Date: 14/01/2005

does this sound familiar maybe going to Australia Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list

I mentioned earlier that we are doing a few townlands that were missed in the census transcriptions. I have just uploaded the 1901 census for Barry in Taghshinny Parish. http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/census/taghshinny2.htm Maybe someone is waiting for this one <G>. Christina http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/

William ALLARD shows up in Kilnacarrow Townland in the parish of Taghshinny in County Longford according to the County Longford Residents Prior to the Famine Tithe Applotment Books of County Longford, Ireland (1823-1835) by Guy Rymsza. Ivy Trott wrote: > You are right, Pete! As you see, I am no further forward but yours is still > a precious clue. > > Yesterday I did a long session at the computer on Ollard in general. > Precious few seem to have drawn attention to themselves and somehow the > computer seems to put names like P Ollard and C Ollard when the name is > actually Pollard or Collard, which does not help much. > > Just in case there is anyone out there also looking, I found a fleeting > mention of a ROBERT PEPYS OLLARD but was unable to pin it down. > > On May 7, 1857 a Mr. Frederick W. Ollard, a passenger to Newfoundland, died > after three days of intense seasickness - that was reported in the Irish > American newspaper. I had seen this before, and did a bit of research in > Newfoundland just in case, but nothing came of it. > > Somebody in Brandon, Manitoba came from Tyrone Co., Ireland in 1846 with his > father and brothers, and on February 7, 1893 he married MARY ADELAIDE C > OLLARD - or was this also Collard? - but I didn't find his name. > > A HENRY J. OLLARD was a Staff Paymaster, ship Garnet, and I found him on a > list of Royal Navy Ships in Service 1894 which was transcribed in New > Zealand. > I suspect that he would be an Essex Ollard, and therefore not one of our > line, but one never knows until one finds out for sure... > > Then - I found a reference to OLLARD WESTCOMBE and they are a firm in Cork > right now, according to the Home Page. Well, well, well! We'll certainly > try to go into that. Have to work out the difference in shop-opening time > between South Africa and Ireland. Ours open at 8.30 am usually. Gets > lighter much earlier. > > There is an ELIZABETH OLLARD, or was, working in the Department of Education > in Northern Ireland and I've sent an e-mail to the Department... > > S L OLLARD wrote a paper on the Oxford Movement in 1939 but so far I haven't > found him anywhere else. Lollard is a name, also! > > Of course, many of these are uncontactable anyway, but there seems to be a > glimmer of hope. Watch this space. > > Thank you for all the help, Listers. I've heard from some of you off list, > and it has been very encouraging. > > Go well! Ivy. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 12:55 AM > Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] Drumlish: > Sheridan/Masterson/Brady/Rorke/Duffy/Reilly > > > Jane at [email protected] writes: > > > > << Is the canal near Leitrim by any chance? I guess that the Ollards come > > from Drumlish. >> in response to Ivy's letter.......... << I'm told > > they were > > cobblers and lived along the canal.... I know there is an Allard Bridge > > somewhere there >> > > > > Jane, > > > > I think I was the person who found Allard's Bridge for Ivy a few years ago > > <gr>. It's located on the Royal Canal a mile and a half west of > > Abbeyshrule and > > about three miles NE of Ballymahon. > > > > Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western > > Massachusetts > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.12 - Release Date: 14/01/2005 > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.12 - Release Date: 14/01/2005 > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > Visit the County Longford GenWeb Page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog

Hi Michael, Andy and All, Which is why I'm on this List, because my gg grandmother, Mattie (Martha) Dimond, of Gortermone Townland in the parish of Carrigallen married Martin Cassidy circa 1830s, and I've been unable to find Martin anywhere. There also seem to be a few Dimond families in that Drumlish area. Gortermone is almost on the border. Regards Beryl Beryl O'Gorman Greensborough Victoria Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] Several surnames from Killoe/Drumlish, incl Tully, Heslin. > Hi Andy, > > You were looking for Kiltycreevagh, this is a small townland just over the > border in Leitrim, its 110 acres, in the Barony of Carrigallen and the civil > parish of Oughteragh. > Two of my Drumlish greatgrandfather's (Clarke and O'Neill) married girls > from this townland so it was not uncommon in this area of North Longford near > the border.

Jane at [email protected] writes: << Is the canal near Leitrim by any chance? I guess that the Ollards come from Drumlish. >> in response to Ivy's letter.......... << I'm told they were cobblers and lived along the canal.... I know there is an Allard Bridge somewhere there >> Jane, I think I was the person who found Allard's Bridge for Ivy a few years ago <gr>. It's located on the Royal Canal a mile and a half west of Abbeyshrule and about three miles NE of Ballymahon. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Thank you for your information. It was thoughtful of you to share it. Richard O'Rourke

Hi -- I am making a new call for volunteers to transcribe census images. I don't like to presume on our helpers, so if you want to help out, please let me know even if you were already a transcriber. Please email me OFF LIST by using my email addy: [email protected] Hitting reply will go to the list. The new film I am waiting for is #0846687 Longford Urban No. Townlands: Deanscurragh, Glack (urban part), Townparks (urban part). Longford City: Armstrong's Yard. Longford City: Ballymahon Street Blue Yard Bog Lane Burke's Yard Canal Harbour Chapel Lane Dublin Street Dwyre's Yard Earl Street Great Water Street Harbour Row Killashee Street King's Yard Little Water Street Mail Coach Yard Main Street Market Square McDonnell's Yard Needham's Yard New Street Richmond Street Sandy Row Stafford's Yard St. Joseph's Road St. Mel's Road St. Michael's Road Ward's Terrace If you want to work on a particular Street let me know. You will get the images of the place you transcribe. If you have not transcribed before here's how it works: I copy the images, you transcribe from the images into a spreadsheet program like Excel or the Works version. You email me the finished spreadsheet and I put it online. I will help with a 2nd opinion on any questionable name. *** I like to get the finished project back in a week. More than that and I have found it bogs things down. But the process of entering data is really pretty fast on a spreadsheet. We use abbreviations to speed this up.*** The film should be here in a couple of weeks. Right now we are finishing up a handful of places that were missed when we did the current roll of film. Christina http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/census/index.htm

Nice work Chris and thanks to you and to all of the volunteers. Researchers will very much enjoy what all of you are doing. Don Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Hunt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 6:49 AM Subject: [LONGFORD] volunteers NEEDED part 2 > Hi -- > I am making a new call for volunteers to transcribe census images. I don't > like to presume on our helpers, so if you want to help out, please let me > know > even if you were already a transcriber. > > Please email me OFF LIST by using my email addy: > [email protected] > Hitting reply will go to the list. > > The new film I am waiting for is #0846687 > > Longford Urban No. Townlands: Deanscurragh, Glack (urban part), Townparks > (urban part). Longford City: Armstrong's Yard. > > Longford City: > Ballymahon Street > Blue Yard > Bog Lane > Burke's Yard > Canal Harbour > Chapel Lane > Dublin Street > Dwyre's Yard > Earl Street > Great Water Street > Harbour Row > Killashee Street > King's Yard > Little Water Street > Mail Coach Yard > Main Street > Market Square > McDonnell's Yard > Needham's Yard > New Street > Richmond Street > Sandy Row > Stafford's Yard > St. Joseph's Road > St. Mel's Road > St. Michael's Road > Ward's Terrace > > > If you want to work on a particular Street let me know. You will get the > images of the place you transcribe. > > If you have not transcribed before here's how it works: > I copy the images, you transcribe from the images into a spreadsheet > program > like Excel or the Works version. You email me the finished spreadsheet and > I > put it online. I will help with a 2nd opinion on any questionable name. > > *** I like to get the finished project back in a week. More than that and > I > have found it bogs things down. But the process of entering data is really > pretty fast on a spreadsheet. We use abbreviations to speed this up.*** > > The film should be here in a couple of weeks. Right now we are finishing > up a > handful of places that were missed when we did the current roll of film. > > Christina > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/census/index.htm > > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: Send email to [email protected] > Put ONLY the word unsubscribe in the message. > For digest the address is [email protected] > [If you take the LIST you can't unsub from the DIGEST & vice versa] > > >

Hi , A list of people from Drumlish would seem like a good idea, but it would not be as straight forward as it first looks. The number of people living in the town of Drumlish in around 1840 might only be in the hundreds but most people lived in the surrounding countryside in townlands and they would consider themselves as coming from Drumlish, my own family comes from O'hill which is about 2 miles from Drumlish but at Ellis Island they are recorded as coming from Drumlish. The people in the surrounding townlands would add several thousands to the population of the town. Michael Woodwards Leighton Buzzard

A list of Drumlish people is a good idea. Will it be online? -----Original Message----- From: Jane Dowling [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 6:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] Drumlish: Sheridan/Masterson/Brady/Rorke/Duffy/Reilly On Jan 14, 2005, at 5:39 AM, Ivy Trott wrote: > I don't suppose any of your folk married an OLLARD, did they? I'm > told they were cobblers and lived along the canal.... I know there is > an Allard Bridge somewhere there, and possibly Allard and Ollard are > interchaneable, as our Trott and Tratt are.... If there are any > haystacks around Longford (at this time of year? and come to think of > it, I never saw but one haystack when on my two precious visits to > Ireland, and that was in Donegal!) I'm pretty sure you'd find my > OLLARDs hiding out in them... > > Go well! Ivy in South Africa. > Ivy: Not so far...no OLLARDS. I think that your deduction concerning Allard/Ollard is really amazing. Wow, quite impressive. Is the canal near Leitrim by any chance? I guess that the Ollards come from Drumlish. We should make a list of Drumlish people like Drumkerron has. My understanding is that there were only about 300+ people there in early 1800s. There is the history of the Cooney family of RI on the Longford site. Maybe it would have some info for you. They are from Drumlish originally. I'll try to dig up what I can for you and others with whom we have been chatting about the parish of Drumlish, Killoe. Thanks, Jane ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Send email to [email protected] Put ONLY the word unsubscribe in the message. For digest the address is [email protected] [If you take the LIST you can't unsub from the DIGEST & vice versa]

On Jan 14, 2005, at 5:39 AM, Ivy Trott wrote: > I don't suppose any of your folk married an OLLARD, did they? I'm > told they were cobblers and lived along the canal.... I know there is > an Allard Bridge somewhere there, and possibly Allard and Ollard are > interchaneable, as our Trott and Tratt are.... If there are any > haystacks around Longford (at this time of year? and come to think of > it, I never saw but one haystack when on my two precious visits to > Ireland, and that was in Donegal!) I'm pretty sure you'd find my > OLLARDs hiding out in them... > > Go well! Ivy in South Africa. > Ivy: Not so far...no OLLARDS. I think that your deduction concerning Allard/Ollard is really amazing. Wow, quite impressive. Is the canal near Leitrim by any chance? I guess that the Ollards come from Drumlish. We should make a list of Drumlish people like Drumkerron has. My understanding is that there were only about 300+ people there in early 1800s. There is the history of the Cooney family of RI on the Longford site. Maybe it would have some info for you. They are from Drumlish originally. I'll try to dig up what I can for you and others with whom we have been chatting about the parish of Drumlish, Killoe. Thanks, Jane

On Jan 14, 2005, at 6:34 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Hi Andy, > > You were looking for Kiltycreevagh, this is a small townland just > over the > border in Leitrim, its 110 acres, in the Barony of Carrigallen and the > civil > parish of Oughteragh. > Two of my Drumlish greatgrandfather's (Clarke and O'Neill) married > girls > from this townland so it was not uncommon in this area of North > Longford near > the border. > > > Michael Woodwards > Leighton Buzzard I have Leitrim/Longford border crossers there too. Have lots of info but haven't got it "on pointe" yet...All the stuff on my old computer tho. Jeepers. I have ONeills from Drumlish: Charles (1750 c.) and Francis b. 1798 c. Francis married Sheridan. Jane > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > Visit the County Longford GenWeb Page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog >

I don't suppose any of your folk married an OLLARD, did they? I'm told they were cobblers and lived along the canal.... I know there is an Allard Bridge somewhere there, and possibly Allard and Ollard are interchaneable, as our Trott and Tratt are.... If there are any haystacks around Longford (at this time of year? and come to think of it, I never saw but one haystack when on my two precious visits to Ireland, and that was in Donegal!) I'm pretty sure you'd find my OLLARDs hiding out in them... Go well! Ivy in South Africa.

Thank you, Michael. You've saved me from wondering if it was Kilcreevan, Co Sligo! Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 3:34 AM Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] Several surnames from Killoe/Drumlish, incl Tully, Heslin. > Hi Andy, > > You were looking for Kiltycreevagh, this is a small townland just over > the > border in Leitrim, its 110 acres, in the Barony of Carrigallen and the > civil > parish of Oughteragh. > Two of my Drumlish greatgrandfather's (Clarke and O'Neill) married > girls > from this townland so it was not uncommon in this area of North Longford > near > the border. > > Michael Woodwards > Leighton Buzzard >

Sioborn you may be able to help a lost Aussie??? My ancestors originated from ireland, all I have is gggrandmothers convict information which says only that she was born in Longford Ireland, as her name is one of the most common, Reilly, and I have no other information on her except her parents and siblings I need to know how to track back in Ireland without physically going there to find Ann's relliies and any descendants still in Ireland. I am not familiar with the Layout of Ireland though I do have a map of Ireland which shows where LOngford is but that is all, if you could steer me to the best way to start my research in I would be most grateful, I know that I need to somehow find her Townland but with her name it is so hard. Are there cencus or rolls or some sort that could help me nail it down and what should I look for? Regards Kesa Australia

Hi Andy, You were looking for Kiltycreevagh, this is a small townland just over the border in Leitrim, its 110 acres, in the Barony of Carrigallen and the civil parish of Oughteragh. Two of my Drumlish greatgrandfather's (Clarke and O'Neill) married girls from this townland so it was not uncommon in this area of North Longford near the border. Michael Woodwards Leighton Buzzard

In answer to your question, Kesa, I would suggest that the best place to begin is Griffith's Primary Valuation (GPV) of County Longford (1854). Even if your ancestor left Ireland before that date, she very well may have had family members would remained behind - you do not say how old she was when she left. Since this surname (and its variants) are so common in Longford, I would further suggest that you buy a book by David Leahy called COUNTY LONGFORD SURVIVORS of the GREAT FAMINE, which is a comprehensive index to GPV. Keep in mind this only gives heads of households and not all who live in that family group. I have the book and it has been a big help to me in my family research; incidentally the name REILLY and its variants take up 2 full pages and the better part of a third, so you can see why I recommend getting the book. You can order it directly from David Leahy at [email protected] OR from Kenny's Bookstore in Galway City at: [email protected] This way you can pick through the information at your own pace. Slan go foill, Siobhan --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.