Dear List, My James Kiernan and his wife Catherine Lennon had three children, Mary 1820, James 1822 and Catherine 1826 all native of Co. Longford. However in 1828 James was caught housebreaking in Co. westmeath and sentenced to 7 years transportation. On the shipping indents he is described as soldier guard/labourer. What exactly does this mean? Was he in the militia? Would the family have been living in Co. Westmeath or Co. Longford? What would a soldier guard be doing in Westmeath at this time? Any help appreciated cheers Maureen

Maureen, We have some militia/RIC data online. For what it's worth - I don't see any Kiernans. http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/military.htm Christina On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:18:18 +1000, saljem wrote: | My James Kiernan and his wife Catherine Lennon had three children, | Mary 1820, James 1822 and Catherine 1826 all native of Co. | Longford. However in 1828 James was caught housebreaking in Co. | westmeath and sentenced to 7 years transportation. On the shipping | indents he is described as soldier guard/labourer. What exactly | does this mean? Was he in the militia? Would the family have been | living in Co. Westmeath or Co. Longford? What would a soldier guard | be doing in Westmeath at this time?

Hello, My GG grandfather was George Pratt. His death certificate states that he married Ann McCann about 1868 in Longford, Ireland. Searching through civil registrations here in Australia, I have not been able to find record of this marriage. I am trying to find information about their children George born approx. 1872 and Elizabeth born 1875. George was a private with King's Own Hussars (14th). Does anyone know about this regiments history in Longford? Ann was born in 1850. Her father was John Hugh McCann, a Sea Captain and her mother was Elizabeth Cox. I am interested to find any information about Ann's birth or her parents. Your help is appreciated, Regards, Julie.

Hi there, I have just uploaded the 1901 census for the townland of Toome. It is in Taghshinny parish in the Barony of Shrule. http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/census/index.htm I should get a chance to copy some of Longford town on Saturday. Barring a snow "event" which could happen. Thanks to our transcribers for all their work on this project. We also have some new ones joining us and we are glad to have their help. Regards, Christina

Been real cold in your neck of the woods Chris, but roses are budding where I am. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Hunt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:38 PM Subject: [LONGFORD] 1901 Census for Toome added > Hi there, > I have just uploaded the 1901 census for the townland of Toome. It is in > Taghshinny parish in the Barony of Shrule. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/census/index.htm > > I should get a chance to copy some of Longford town on Saturday. Barring a > snow "event" which could happen. > Thanks to our transcribers for all their work on this project. We also > have > some new ones joining us and we are glad to have their help. > > Regards, > Christina > > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > ~Even a small thorn causes festering.~ > > >

Hi, Kevin. I have the following info on Dolans: Bridget Dolan b. c.1840 Leit-Longf border area Parents are James Dolan and Mary came to US in late 40s to early 50s married Adolf Smith of Sweden in RI on 18Dec1870 -RI State Archives Bridget's brother: John Francis Dolan b.1835 Leit-Longf border came to US w. Bridget above married Catherine ONeill b. Drumlish c.1842-d. 14May1904 Prov RI burial of husb and wife at St Francis Cem, Pawtucket, RI -had 10 children all b. in Prov -in the liquor business -family first names: -Alice Genevia 1881-1943 Prov James P. 1863-1934 v, active in Eagle's Club "P." of middle names differs in various records as Paul/Patrick "Jack" Rose Catherine 19Sept1870-1942 Eliza 31Dec1860-1920 Francis 1874-1918 Margaret Mary Patrick -very few married and those who did marry lost their children at a young age ...tho not all Our line is through James Paul Dolan, my gr.gr. grandf worshipped at St. Michael Church, an Irish parish in Prov. Thanks, Kevin. Jane in RI On Jan 9, 2005, at 7:57 AM, Kevin Heslin wrote: > Jane, > I have an interest in the Dolan and Masterson names, particularly in > Leitrim. If you have more information on either of those families in > either county that would be very interesting. > I have Dolan cousins with a much more direct connection but they trace > their line back to Wiliam Dolan (b. 1800 in Carrigallen). He married > Catherine Masterson (father Patrick) born 1791 in Keshcarrigen. She > worked as a servant girl and was listed on the 1821 Carrigallen Census > as Mary. > There is a great deal of Dolan information after that, and then > Laurence Dolan married Anne Heslin in 1891. > > Kevin >> >> The surnames involved in my latest search of the Drumlish area are >> the surnames as above as well as Masterson and Dolan. These last two >> lived in the ONeill-Sheridan household in Prov, RI, in the 1800s. >> John Francis Dolan b. 1835, married Catherine ONeill b. 1841, >> in Prov, RI. >> >> Maid servant: Mary/Maria Masterson lived in the ONeill home. >> >> According to the Primary Valuation property survey of 1848-64, there >> were 39 paying ONeills(including all spelling variations) households >> in Longford. >> >> ONeill: Francis "Frank" born in Drumlish in 1798 c. >> father: Charles >> mother: Elizabeth >> source: Providence Directory 1865 >> >> married Elizabeth Sheridan born in Drumlish in 1818 c. >> >> This marriage produced 7 or 8 children. Two died around the time of >> the famine. Names unknown. >> Three were brought to USA with parents (I assume): Catherine b. 1841 >> c., Margaret b. 1844, and Mary b. 1846. >> Born in USA: Ellen b. 1856 c.; Francis "Frank A." b. 1859 c.; Eliza >> b. 1851 c. >> >> What interests me about these people is their interest in stylish >> clothing. Although they were poor, the girls wore beautifully made >> clothing and ostich plumed hats with amazing grace. The son went into >> dry goods and eventually became prominent in the New Haven Malley's >> Dept. Store which had branches in several other cities. They lived in >> a very fine neighborhood in what is now a part of Yale Univ. >> >> None of these produced any heirs except for John Francis aka Frank A. >> He and his wife, Sarah Duffy of MA, had a son and five daughters: >> Frank S. ONeill b. 1895 c. Prov; Mary Harriet b. 5Dec1894 in Prov; >> Margaret E., b. 1900 c. Prov; Veronica E. b. 1901 c.; Geraldine >> Bertha b. 1903 c.; unnamed daughter b. 6Oct1892- died the same day in >> Prov. This entire group moved to New Haven CT from Prov in early >> 1900s. >> >> >> Thanks for your response. >> >> Jane >> >> >> ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== >> To Unsubscribe: Send email to [email protected] >> Put ONLY the word unsubscribe in the message. >> For digest the address is [email protected] >> [If you take the LIST you can't unsub from the DIGEST & vice versa] >> > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > To check on locations try: > http://www.seanruad.com >

After finding ancestors(perhaps) in the tax lists of Longford, before the famine, where do I look now for any records that may be available once I have townland of person? I have had bad luck researching Ireland and need some direction in my quest. Many thanks for any hints. Helen

cooneys, doyles ,duggans, farleys, farrells , keirnans,kiernans [who walked to providece yearly to see family] creamers and alot more are also in chelsea ma as early as 1810 THE ARCHIVES PAGE FOR MACHELSEA-L IS <A HREF="http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MACHELSEA/">http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MACHELSEA/</A> THE LIST WEBPAGE IS <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/CARADOC28/page2.html">http://members.aol.com/CARADOC28/page2.html</A> oh yeah!!!!!!!!! tons of denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning-carlon-carroll -dever-cogan-malone-heslin-mchugh Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list

Will it be online? Jeepers. I am not able to put it on line. Computer skills are minimal. Jane On Jan 14, 2005, at 8:35 PM, Agnes M wrote: > A list of Drumlish people is a good idea. Will it be online? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Dowling [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 6:29 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] Drumlish: > Sheridan/Masterson/Brady/Rorke/Duffy/Reilly > > > > On Jan 14, 2005, at 5:39 AM, Ivy Trott wrote: > >> I don't suppose any of your folk married an OLLARD, did they? I'm >> told they were cobblers and lived along the canal.... I know there is >> an Allard Bridge somewhere there, and possibly Allard and Ollard are >> interchaneable, as our Trott and Tratt are.... If there are any >> haystacks around Longford (at this time of year? and come to think of >> it, I never saw but one haystack when on my two precious visits to >> Ireland, and that was in Donegal!) I'm pretty sure you'd find my >> OLLARDs hiding out in them... >> >> Go well! Ivy in South Africa. >> > Ivy: Not so far...no OLLARDS. I think that your deduction concerning > Allard/Ollard is really amazing. Wow, quite impressive. > > Is the canal near Leitrim by any chance? I guess that the Ollards come > from Drumlish. > > We should make a list of Drumlish people like Drumkerron has. My > understanding is that there were only about 300+ people there in early > 1800s. > > There is the history of the Cooney family of RI on the Longford site. > Maybe it would have some info for you. They are from Drumlish > originally. > > I'll try to dig up what I can for you and others with whom we have been > chatting about the parish of Drumlish, Killoe. > > Thanks, > > Jane > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: Send email to [email protected] > Put ONLY the word unsubscribe in the message. > For digest the address is [email protected] > [If you take the LIST you can't unsub from the DIGEST & vice versa] > > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > To contact the Listowner send email to: > mailto:[email protected] >

local C of I stands for Church of Ireland

Don I could really picture that scene in my mind, and think yes you did the wisest thing leaving had a good laugh about it Kesa

Good morning everyone: [LDS Record] Can anyone comment on the following and what the local C of I and cemetery would have been at the time for the following? Macklin John ~ Granard ~ 3 ~ 157 ~ 68 ~ 1869 Co Longford North Eric Macklin

I paraphrase this from the late Pete McCarthy's book, "McCarthy's Bar". During the Troubles the British hear a rumour that Gerry Adams and Ian Paisley are holding secret talks in a hotel in Donegal. Seeing the opportunity to end their headaches they insert an SAS sniper across the road. The sniper's waiting is eventually over when he see's Adams and Paisley walking out but in between them is the singer Daniel O'Donnell. This gave the SAS sniper a bit of a problem as he had only been issued with two silver tipped bullets - so he shot Daniel O'Donnell twice. be lucky Sean

My dad said never take the bait unless you have an advantage<GRIN>which I clearly did not. It was funny later, but not at the time. I just got in the wind. cheers all Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kesa" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] HUMOR > Don I could really picture that scene in my mind, and think yes you did > the wisest thing leaving had a good laugh about it > > Kesa > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > To find other Irish county web pages visit IGP: > http://irelandgenealogyprojects.rootsweb.com > > >

As the January blahs have set in, it seems like time for humor week is upon us. So, starting on Saturday Jan 22- Saturday Jan 29th, you can commence sending your saved up jokes to the list. GROUND RULES! In the subject line put [HUMOR] or [HUMOUR] as the case may be. Then those not interested can skip those messages I prefer the topics be Irish or Genealogy humor. *Keep within the bounds of good taste - sort of :) *No political jokes. *No "swear" words. After January 29th jokes will again be considered OFF TOPIC. Thanks, Christina Listowner IRL-TIPPERARY & IRL-LONGFORD

--- Original Message --- From: [email protected] To: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Cc: Sent: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:50:42 -0700 Subject: {not a subscriber} RE: List of Drumlish people | Michael, what is your link to Ohill? My Dunleavy family is from | there as well. My uncle still lives there on the family farm. | | Mike Dunleavy in Ottawa, Canada | | | -----Original Message----- | From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] | Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 5:49 AM | To: [email protected] | Subject: Re: List of Drumlish people | | | Hi , A list of people from Drumlish would seem like a good idea, | but it would not be as straight forward as it first looks. The | number of people living | in the town of Drumlish in around 1840 might only be in the | hundreds but most | people lived in the surrounding countryside in townlands and they | would consider themselves as coming from Drumlish, my own family | comes from O'hill which | is about 2 miles from Drumlish but at Ellis Island they are | recorded as coming from Drumlish. The people in the surrounding | townlands would add several thousands to the population of the | town. | | | Michael Woodwards | Leighton Buzzard | | ______________________________ | | | __________ NOD32 1.973 (20050116) Information __________ | | This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. | http://www.nod32.com

Not a joke with respect to enjoying it, but a few years ago dropped into a pub in the town of Leixlip (sp) County Kildare, to see what Guinnis (sp) tasted like. There was a bunch of noisy Irishmen inside, toasting the local football team, toasting about anything that could be toasted. One spotted me as a stranger right away and commenced to make a toast to the visitor. As I sat down at the bar, two of them three sheets in the wind I detected, sat down on each side of me......the one on the left with his nose practically in my ear, asked, "will you have a brew on us." I carefully, very carefully, allowed it was a neighborly act which I would greatfully accept. "Ah" upon hearing my voice "we have an American here. What is your name Sir." I answered Kelly and the immediate area became quiet for an uncomfortable length of time. "Be ye related to our Kelly's here? Fine football player one." The other said, "There is the Kellys on the river. They build boats. Then there is Doctor Kelly." A third chipped in, "Biggest thieves in all of Kildare." More uncomfortable silence. Well I finished my drink bought a round, went to the restroom where I still am, having used the facility and promptly walked out the back door unseen. I imagine if I stayed there would have errupted a really big bru ha. I pictured an American in their jail and felt it the better part of valor to quietly leave. hugs around Don Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Hunt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 8:32 AM Subject: [LONGFORD] 2nd semi annual Humor/Humour week Jan. 22-29th > As the January blahs have set in, it seems like time for humor week is > upon > us. > So, starting on Saturday Jan 22- Saturday Jan 29th, you can commence > sending > your saved up jokes to the list. > > GROUND RULES! > In the subject line put [HUMOR] or [HUMOUR] as the case may be. Then those > not > interested can skip those messages > > I prefer the topics be Irish or Genealogy humor. > > *Keep within the bounds of good taste - sort of :) > *No political jokes. > *No "swear" words. > > After January 29th jokes will again be considered OFF TOPIC. > > Thanks, > Christina > Listowner IRL-TIPPERARY & IRL-LONGFORD > > > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > To contact the listowner send an email to: > [email protected] > > >

Alice, Everything I have is on the Longford website. http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/ Regards, Christina On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:50:24 -0500 (EST), [email protected] wrote: | Christina, | What do you have on Warrington's in longford area? | | Alice

In a message dated 1/16/2005 3:07:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > > > I am researching the Denniston family of Longford Ireland . I am trying to > find the parents of Hugh Denniston (Dennison) b. 1784 . i did find that he was > a cousin or nephew to Isaac Dennison son of Hugh Denniston who died in > Albany NY in 1785 . Any help is appreciated . > > thanks > Tee > Hadley NY > i think denniston- dennington -denning ect are the same name Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list

I am researching the Denniston family of Longford Ireland . I am trying to find the parents of Hugh Denniston (Dennison) b. 1784 . i did find that he was a cousin or nephew to Isaac Dennison son of Hugh Denniston who died in Albany NY in 1785 . Any help is appreciated . thanks Tee Hadley NY