Hi Phyllis, For Hagarty David lists Robert at Aghnavealoge, Robert at Newtown (Rathreagh Ph). William, Sarah at Ballyglassin, Andrew at Farnagh. William at Farranyoogan. Hugh, James at Cooleeny. William at Town Parks. (Templemichael Ph.) william at BallymahonStreet, Longford town. James at Lismoy (one of our mutual Hagartys, I think). (Clongesh Ph) Alice at Killeenatruan (Killoe). william at Cartronageeragh (Ballymacormick). There's almost a page each of Hughes and Moran. Send your address and I'll get it to you. Rachel _______________-- I wonder, could you tell me what David Leahy has for the names HAGARTY/HEGARTY and HUGHES, also MORAN, in "Co. Longford Survivors of the Great Famine"? Thank you so much, Phyllis

Kesa, I just looked at the Leahy book for you and find that the Reilly listings run to three densely packed pages. Glancing over it I see lots of Patricks! If you would like to send me a postal address, and think you might sieve out the right one, I will send you photocopies of the pages. Since you know the birth year pretty closely, for a fee you could also get the Longford Heritage Center to look up the Reilly birth records just around that time. Rachel __________________ Rachel would mind terribly looking in Griffiths Valuations "County Longford Survivors of the Great Famine for me for Ann Reilly parents Mary and Patrick she was born circ 1822 I am trying to narrow ny search for her to the parish if possible though I know Reilly is a common name any help would be appreciated Kesa

The Irish were definitely fond of lining up with whoever was fighting the English at any particular time, most recently in 1798 (during the Napoleonic period) when the French, who were at war with Britain at the time anyway for reasons that went far beyond Irish issues, landed a force at Kilalla in County Mayo that was eventually defeated at Ballinamuck. The Irish joined in, subscribing heartily to the ancient dictum, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." This particular adventure probably didn't net much in the way of continental blood in Ireland, however, because the French stay was very brief, occuring within the space of less than a single year. Since the French army was in combat mode throughout and continuously on the march, fraternization was somewhat limited. There are, however, other times when there were definite and large infusions of foreign blood into the native stock. Leaving aside the arrival of the Celts, who joined the Firbog in Ireland early in the Bronze Age, there were, as you point out, a certain number of Saxons who made it across the Irish Sea. (St. Patrick, however, appears to have been a Celt and therefore of roughly the same ethnicity as the Irish population of his time. That was helpful for a missionary, because he already more or less had the language.) In the eighth and ninth centuries, the Norse/Danes--and red hair--came to Ireland as they did to England, France, and Sicily at the same period. They founded and/or settled in Dublin, Wexford, Waterford, Cork, and Limerick, among other smaller enclaves. More significant in numbers and long-term influence was the Anglo-Norman penetration that began in 1169. Since most of the Norman adventurers in Ireland were actually recruited in France for that expedition, the result was a massive infusion of French blood. Among the Irish families that are descended from the Norman-French invaders are Lacy, Bellew, Taaffe, Jourdan (Jordan), Plunkett, Verdon, Costello, Fitzgerald, Peppard, Roche, Moore, Terry, Montgomery, Prendergast, Nugent, Courcy, Hackett, Clare, Savage, Logan, Barry, Condon, Barrett, Burke, Dillon, and Ormond. (This is not an exhaustive list, but all that I can think of on the spur of the moment.) However, the infusion of foreign blood that most genealogists can discover traces of runs from the 17th (especially after the sieges of Limerick in 1690-91) to the 19th century. This is the time when being an Irish Catholic in Ireland was to submit to deprivation of the most basic civil rights, severe reduction of socioeconomic status including extreme strictures on the right to own land and/or pass it on by inheritance, wholesale poverty, lack of access to education and practice of the professions (except in the 19th century), and religious harrassment. Beginning in the 17th century, the Wild Geese flew off from Ireland--going mainly to France and Spain (including the Spanish Netherlands, which now makes up the country of Belgium), but also to Portugal, Italy, and Austria, among other destinations--with the greatest number leaving after William III defeated the Irish at Limerick in 1691. Since Wild Geese descendents sometimes came back as punitive laws against the Catholics in Ireland loosened up toward the end of the 18th century, there is quite a lot of relatively recent French and Spanish blood mixed with that of the native Irish because many of the Wild Geese had taken wives in their new countries. Some came back because it was again legally possible to own land in Ireland, which they were now able to buy with the capital they had amassed as they grew prosperous in trade, especially in wine and textiles, during the time of their exile. Many remained in international trade but maintained homes in Ireland as well to use as bases in that country. Others, notably the Walsh clan in France, became extremely rich from smuggling to the West Coast of Ireland, where it was nearly impossible to keep them from getting through. (Just as a matter of general interest, perhaps, some Wild Geese descendents never came back. Examples are Patrice (Patrick) McMahon, who! became President of the Third French Republic; Count Edward Taaffe, who became Chancellor of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and the skier Jean-Claude Kiely, whose ancestors pronounced their name "Kelly.") Other sizable infusions of foreign blood were the French Hughenots, who came during the late 17th century (the Lafroys are an example of this) and the Palatine Germans who came to Ireland early in the 18th century. Although these last groups were from within the British Isles, it is possibly useful for completeness to mention the massive infusion of Scots into Ulster beginning in the Middle Ages, joined by English during the Ulster Plantation of the early 17th century, and the subsequent plantation of Scots and English in what is now the Irish Republic as a part of the Cromwellian settlement in the 1650's. That is where some of these names that I see some people of the list like Armstrong and Thompson came from. Nancy Gray -------------- Original message from <[email protected]>: -------------- > ...something to consider...in the 5th century St Patrick was kidnapped by > Irish marauders and sold into slavery as a child (he later escaped and > returned to Britain, only to return to Ireland to convert the population) > but there could have been others like Patrick (ie, > Brits...anglo/saxon/roman) who were similarly abducted and sold into > captivity in Ireland. Also, didnt the Irish support the French during some > war a few hundred years ago...perhaps that also could explain an infusion of > continental blood carrying your far reaching lines. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:57 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] Re: > http://www.countylongford.com/Longford_Towns1.htm > > > In a message dated 2/10/2005 10:26:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > Not anglo saxons...long story short---area belonged to the OFarrell Clan. > > When King Henry (Plantagenet) II invaded Ireland (1170-1171 approx) the > land > > was given to Hugh de Lacy who in turn passed it to Sir Richard Tuite > > (knight) for his participation in the invasion (typical act of feudal > > period). The abbey was built in the early 1200's and, ironically, ended > up > > being run from time to time by OFarrell abbots...in fact it was an > OFarrell > > who turned the abbey over to the crown during the dissolution of > monasteries > > under Henry VIII. > > > > (Toward the end of his life Tuite was also one of Irelands Lord Chief > > Justices.) > > > > I am the ggggggrandson of a stone mason in Ardargh 1770s .When I tested I am > whats called e3b, which is basicly old neolith settlers of europe, if you > by > that. But more importantly I have matches in Germany France one person > is > close to the Plantagent line with his paperwork trail. Another is working > on > a line a decendent of an illiget son of marie therese of the hapsbergs. > I am a decendent of stonemasons from Ardargh but some ties seem to be from > Germany and France . So any history that brings Anglo Saxons there or maybe > the French is important to figuring this out. > > > Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist > using Genetics to connect > Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinnin > g- > carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mch > ug > h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop > ,M > a.- and ever an growing list > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > ~Even a small thorn causes festering.~ > > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > ~Even a small thorn causes festering.~ >

In a message dated 2/11/2005 11:12:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > something to consider...in the 5th century St Patrick was kidnapped by > Irish marauders and sold into slavery as a child (he later escaped and > returned to Britain, only to return to Ireland to convert the population) > but there could have been others like Patrick (ie, > Brits...anglo/saxon/roman) who were similarly abducted and sold into > captivity in Ireland. Also, didnt the Irish support the French during some > war a few hundred years ago...perhaps that also could explain an infusion of > continental blood carrying your far reaching lines. those are possibities but not my most promising personally i thing i am a decendent of a dannanberg who might of come to england under the normans to admister england but all the therorys will be proven when i get matches then the trail will tell me how when where and maybe why? i am waiting on the 2 farrells who besides the carrolls we wed farrells the most. Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list

...something to consider...in the 5th century St Patrick was kidnapped by Irish marauders and sold into slavery as a child (he later escaped and returned to Britain, only to return to Ireland to convert the population) but there could have been others like Patrick (ie, Brits...anglo/saxon/roman) who were similarly abducted and sold into captivity in Ireland. Also, didnt the Irish support the French during some war a few hundred years ago...perhaps that also could explain an infusion of continental blood carrying your far reaching lines. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] Re: http://www.countylongford.com/Longford_Towns1.htm In a message dated 2/10/2005 10:26:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Not anglo saxons...long story short---area belonged to the OFarrell Clan. > When King Henry (Plantagenet) II invaded Ireland (1170-1171 approx) the land > was given to Hugh de Lacy who in turn passed it to Sir Richard Tuite > (knight) for his participation in the invasion (typical act of feudal > period). The abbey was built in the early 1200's and, ironically, ended up > being run from time to time by OFarrell abbots...in fact it was an OFarrell > who turned the abbey over to the crown during the dissolution of monasteries > under Henry VIII. > > (Toward the end of his life Tuite was also one of Irelands Lord Chief > Justices.) > I am the ggggggrandson of a stone mason in Ardargh 1770s .When I tested I am whats called e3b, which is basicly old neolith settlers of europe, if you by that. But more importantly I have matches in Germany France one person is close to the Plantagent line with his paperwork trail. Another is working on a line a decendent of an illiget son of marie therese of the hapsbergs. I am a decendent of stonemasons from Ardargh but some ties seem to be from Germany and France . So any history that brings Anglo Saxons there or maybe the French is important to figuring this out. Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinnin g- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mch ug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop ,M a.- and ever an growing list ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== ~Even a small thorn causes festering.~

Hi Rachel, I wonder, could you tell me what David Leahy has for the names HAGARTY/HEGARTY and HUGHES, also MORAN, in "Co. Longford Survivors of the Great Famine"? Thank you so much, Phyllis > In his index of the Griffiths Valuations "County Longford Survivors of > the Great Famine," David Leahy lists the following Kerrigans:

Tom, noticed your Fullam/Fullen enquiry and decided to send you a copy of some of my own Records which relate to a Fulham & Mahady Connection. This may be a longshot but would seem to be too coincidental, for not to send to you, with the phonetics being applicable to your possible Longford names. BTW, the name Rosa was used for the mother at the registration of the Birth. The details below would be the only known Fulham/Mahady Connection held. Matt Mahady ********** The Mahady & Fulham Family Connection ********** MMM 51 (+ MMM 131) John MAHADY married Rose FULHAM 1 Aug 1879 at Granard. John and Rose both lived in the Cartron area, Granard. Witnesses - Patrick O'Reilly & Margaret Wynne. John's parents - Daniel & Margaret (Nedly). MMM 45. Rose's parents - Daniel & Anna (McGrath) Fulham. Children:- (Granard Parochial House Records) 131.1 John born 1 October 1879 at Granard. Sponsors - Patrick Donlon & Margaret Mahady. No other details available at this stage. ----------- See MMM 51 & 131 for Fulham ----- Original Message ----- From: "thetribe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 11:14 PM Subject: Robert Fullam or Fullen Looking for info on my G G Grandfather Robert Fullam born Ireland 1826 and he may have come from Longford. he left in 1846 aboard the Packet Ship Victoria out of Liverpool. he came to New York. Later he Married Julia Russell in 1850. Robert Died in 1873 from pnuemonia. he served in the Irish Brigade briefly. My loss of info is from ireland I have all of his info here in the US But all I know is he was born in Ireland over there his life for years and years has been a mystery prior to America. Tom -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 7/02/2005

Dear Pat Mary clyne married Michael macken in ardagh 0n 19/1/1822. the went on to have at least five children. Regards Pauline Flood ***************************************** Please note that if you avail of our service you are in agreement with the following: That any information obtained from us shall only be used for private research and shall not in any way be published or made available to the general public without written consent from Longford Genealogy Centre [email protected] or [email protected] http://www.longfordroots.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Longford Roots" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] RE: Kenny > Dear sir > This wedding took place in ardagh/moydow on 14/7/1796. Nothing else was > recorded on the entry only the witnesses names bryan Bannon and N Kenny. No > parents listed. This couple went on to have a margaret in 1809, mary in > 1797 and ann in 1805, no more listed. > > > Regards > > > Pauline Flood > > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Pat Wood" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 6:40 PM > Subject: [LONGFORD] RE: Kenny > > > > Am researching Kenny from Ardagh / Moydow. Anne Kenny married James Clinn > / > > Clyne in 1796. > > > > Pat Wood > > Fircrest, WA, USA > > **** All outgoing mail scanned by Norton Anti-virus **** > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Maureen Casey" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 8:56 AM > > Subject: Brackin/ Kenny > > > > > > > Hi, > > > Anyone searching above names? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Maureen > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > > To find other Irish county web pages visit IGP: > > http://irelandgenealogyprojects.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=IRL-LONGFORD > > >

Thank you Rachel....I used to live in Bremerton.... I would not know what to do with this information. I appreciate your troubles to research and send this, but all I know is Thomas H. Begnal, b. 1 Jan 1847, Ireland unknown exactly where, some indication to Garadice, Co. Meath, but going with the story of Beglin's originating in Longford, migrating to surrounding Co.'s and that of Joseph Begnall in 1950 writing how Beglin changed their name to Begnal because of political and military reasons....is all I know. Again, thank you....any suggestions is appreciated, Doc Rachel & Robert H Smith wrote: > David Leahy lists the following individuals under Beglan, Beglin: > > Elllen at Caldraghmore. Patrick at Cloonkeen. (Ballymacormick Ph) > Jon at Cloonevit. Peter at Cloonker. Edward at Lisgurry.(Moydow Ph). > [The preceding are very close together.] Patrick, Michael(?) at > Culray (Abbylara Ph). Thomas at Laughil (Edgeworth). Frances at > Derrycassan. Patrick, James at Gelsaugh Columbkille Ph). Michael (2), > Mary at Aghabrack. John at Colagherty. Michael, Mary at Killasona, > James at Tonywardan (all Granard Ph.).[This last group are also > geographically close to each other]. > > Rachel Smith > > _______ > > Is there any one on this list with knowledge of Beglin or Begnals in > Longford or in other counties? > > In a 1950 letter from Joseph Begnall, Milltown Pass Co. Westmeath, he > mentions how Beglin's changed their name to Begnal...as did Michael > Begnal about 1851 > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > ~A friend's eye is a good mirror.~ > > > -- Regards, D.R. "Doc" Begnal-Young - "Pay It Forward" Begnal-Blaschko/Blaszko/Blaskow-Perry/Pereira Cardoso-Wilson www.computer-firstaid.com/begnal_enterprises/genealogy.html FREE Online Assistance with Computers, Hardware, Software, Internet/Web www.computer-firstaid.com Netiquette - Do's & Don'ts of E-Mailing - www.onlinenetiquette.com/courtesy1.html San Gabriel, CA

BEGNALS MIGRATED TO SARATOGA, NEW YORK. A DESCENDANT, JUDITH ANNE CARON LIVES IN TEQUESTA, FLORIDA. JJG

Yes JJG you are correct, I am not aware of how Judith Anne Caron fits into the following. My great great grandfather was Thomas H. Begnal, who married Margaret E. Shevlin abt 1874, possibly Albany, NY. Their children Katherine M., George Felix Begnal (my great grandfather), Frank P., Mary V. and Katie. They settled in Saratoga Springs, NY. Thomas and family moving there 1900/1901. George Felix Begnal and Elizabeth O'Shaughnessy, gave birth to my grandfather Clifford Franklin Begnal, unknow if they ever married. George married 2 more times to Edith M. Mitchell and Edna R. Avery. The last surviving child of George and Edna is Robert T. Begnal, b. 21 Dec 1931, who lives a few miles from me. They had 3 other children George Jr., Jean, and John (Jack) Begnal. George Felix Begnal moved back and forth between Albany, Brooklyn and Saratoga Springs, 1901-1917. Thomas & George Begnal, James & Fred H. Baker and George F. Shevlin Sr., all worked the Baker & Shevlin Company a Foundry and machine business 8 Jun 1901, per the NY Times. Other family worked there as well. I have obits for just about every family member and the story article when Fred H. Baker, died that tells more about this business and how it past hands between Fred H. to George F. Shevlin in 1912 and then back to Fred H. in 1916 Frederick H. Baker married Thomas H. Begnal's oldest daughter Katherine M. (Kate). I have been trying to find when and where from in Ireland my Thomas H. Begnal, b. 1 Jan 1847. I know where the Shevlin's he married into are from in Ireland, Castleblayney, County Monaghan, but not Thomas. And how I came to post on this list because of what a Michael S. Begnal, shared with me about the origins of Beglin-Begnal's and the 1950 letter from Joseph Begnall of Westmeath about the surname change there in Ireland. I was hoping there were Beglin's or Begnal's on this list who may know the story better, are descendants and possibly heard of Thomas H. Begnal. I did find a passenger list of Thomas H. Begnal, in 1906 returning from Ireland, stating he was a US citizen of 40 years and he was coming from Garadice, Co. Meath, but that does not mean he was born in Co. Meath or his ancestors. Are you in touch with Judith Anne Caron and possibly pass this on to her? This is the link to these Begnal's http://www.computer-firstaid.com/begnal_enterprises/genealogy/begnal.html I am in touch with George F. Shevlin IV, Robert T. Begnal and Michael S. Begnal whose lineage is from Co. Westmeath and settled in Waterbury, CT. I am still trying to find the link of our lineage. Thank you, Doc [email protected] wrote: >BEGNALS MIGRATED TO SARATOGA, NEW YORK. A DESCENDANT, JUDITH ANNE CARON LIVES >IN TEQUESTA, FLORIDA. > >JJG > > >==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== >~Even a small thorn causes festering.~ > > >

In a message dated 2/10/2005 10:26:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Not anglo saxons...long story short---area belonged to the OFarrell Clan. > When King Henry (Plantagenet) II invaded Ireland (1170-1171 approx) the land > was given to Hugh de Lacy who in turn passed it to Sir Richard Tuite > (knight) for his participation in the invasion (typical act of feudal > period). The abbey was built in the early 1200's and, ironically, ended up > being run from time to time by OFarrell abbots...in fact it was an OFarrell > who turned the abbey over to the crown during the dissolution of monasteries > under Henry VIII. > > (Toward the end of his life Tuite was also one of Irelands Lord Chief > Justices.) > I am the ggggggrandson of a stone mason in Ardargh 1770s .When I tested I am whats called e3b, which is basicly old neolith settlers of europe, if you by that. But more importantly I have matches in Germany France one person is close to the Plantagent line with his paperwork trail. Another is working on a line a decendent of an illiget son of marie therese of the hapsbergs. I am a decendent of stonemasons from Ardargh but some ties seem to be from Germany and France . So any history that brings Anglo Saxons there or maybe the French is important to figuring this out. Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list

David Leahy lists the following individuals under Beglan, Beglin: Elllen at Caldraghmore. Patrick at Cloonkeen. (Ballymacormick Ph) Jon at Cloonevit. Peter at Cloonker. Edward at Lisgurry.(Moydow Ph). [The preceding are very close together.] Patrick, Michael(?) at Culray (Abbylara Ph). Thomas at Laughil (Edgeworth). Frances at Derrycassan. Patrick, James at Gelsaugh Columbkille Ph). Michael (2), Mary at Aghabrack. John at Colagherty. Michael, Mary at Killasona, James at Tonywardan (all Granard Ph.).[This last group are also geographically close to each other]. Rachel Smith _______ Is there any one on this list with knowledge of Beglin or Begnals in Longford or in other counties? In a 1950 letter from Joseph Begnall, Milltown Pass Co. Westmeath, he mentions how Beglin's changed their name to Begnal...as did Michael Begnal about 1851

In his index of the Griffiths Valuations "County Longford Survivors of the Great Famine," David Leahy lists the following Kerrigans: William at Main Street, Ballymahon Town (Shrule Parish.). Thomas at Cloonard (Taghshinny Ph). Patrick at Clygeen (Kilglass Ph.). Rose at Kilcurry (Taghshinny Ph.). Anne at Cornapark (Ardagh Ph). Bartly at Clonwhelan(Mostrim Ph.). Thomas, Margaret at Kilsallagh (Mostrim Ph.). Patrick at Balalley Lane, Granard Town. Patrick at Moxham Street, Granard Town. Honor at Leitrim (Granard Ph.) The map included in this book shows these townlands mostly to be quite close together in the southeast part of County Longford, with the Granard addresses more central. The repeated names may be the same individual having land in more than one townland. This is the time period of your Thomas' birth. The Longford Heritage Center could probably find birth records and sort the relationships out. Rachel Smith ____________ Hi, I am looking for information on Thomas F. Kerrigan, born 1848 in Longford. [May be Granard]. Thomas left Ireland for New York in 1863.He returned several times in the 1870's to visit his family. Thomas, a Piper performed in a variety of NYC theaters during the 1870's to 1880's. I'm interested in finding information about his family in Longford. Thank you, Ursula _________

Not anglo saxons...long story short---area belonged to the OFarrell Clan. When King Henry (Plantagenet) II invaded Ireland (1170-1171 approx) the land was given to Hugh de Lacy who in turn passed it to Sir Richard Tuite (knight) for his participation in the invasion (typical act of feudal period). The abbey was built in the early 1200's and, ironically, ended up being run from time to time by OFarrell abbots...in fact it was an OFarrell who turned the abbey over to the crown during the dissolution of monasteries under Henry VIII. (Toward the end of his life Tuite was also one of Irelands Lord Chief Justices.) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 2:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [LONGFORD] Re: http://www.countylongford.com/Longford_Towns1.htm > <A HREF="http://www.countylongford.com/Longford_Towns1.htm">http://www.countylo ngford.com/Longford_Towns1.htm</A> 837. Abbeylara Beside the village of Abbeylara 4km south-west (2.5 miles) of Granard and near the shore of Lough Kinale are the remains of a 13th century Cistercian abbey founded by an Anglo-Norman, Richard Tuite. It was plundered by Edward Bruce after the sacking of Granard. A semicircular earthwork north of the village is regarded locally as the site of the original church founded here by Saint Patrick about 460. From the shore of Lough Kinale, north-east of Abbeylara, parts of the ancient defensive earthwork known as the black Pig's Dyke extends north-westwards towards the shore of Lough Gowna. In the parish of Abbeylara there are two well preserved remains of stone circles. There are also in this area surviving traces of what appear to be megalithic burials. There is no doubt of the antiquity of these stone circles and of their importance as archaelogical remains of the Bronze Age period of our history. They stand as memorials to those who recognised the sun as the centre of the universe, the source of all life. Choose a subject. was there a settlement of anglo saxons there maybe another explaination of my halopgroup Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinnin g- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mch ug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop ,M a.- and ever an growing list ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== ~Even a small thorn causes festering.~

Sounds like he learned how to make the system work<GRIN> Interesting how things were accomplished in those days. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 7:26 PM Subject: RE: [LONGFORD] Re: http://www.countylongford.com/Longford_Towns1.htm > Not anglo saxons...long story short---area belonged to the OFarrell Clan. > When King Henry (Plantagenet) II invaded Ireland (1170-1171 approx) the > land > was given to Hugh de Lacy who in turn passed it to Sir Richard Tuite > (knight) for his participation in the invasion (typical act of feudal > period). The abbey was built in the early 1200's and, ironically, ended > up > being run from time to time by OFarrell abbots...in fact it was an > OFarrell > who turned the abbey over to the crown during the dissolution of > monasteries > under Henry VIII. > > (Toward the end of his life Tuite was also one of Irelands Lord Chief > Justices.) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 2:11 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [LONGFORD] Re: > http://www.countylongford.com/Longford_Towns1.htm > > > > > >> <A > HREF="http://www.countylongford.com/Longford_Towns1.htm">http://www.countylo > ngford.com/Longford_Towns1.htm</A> > 837. Abbeylara > Beside the village of Abbeylara 4km south-west (2.5 miles) of Granard and > near the shore of Lough Kinale are the remains of a 13th century > Cistercian > abbey > founded by an Anglo-Norman, Richard Tuite. It was plundered by Edward > Bruce > after the sacking of Granard. A semicircular earthwork north of the > village > is > regarded locally as the site of the original church founded here by Saint > Patrick about 460. From the shore of Lough Kinale, north-east of > Abbeylara, > parts > of the ancient defensive earthwork known as the black Pig's Dyke extends > north-westwards towards the shore of Lough Gowna. In the parish of > Abbeylara > there > are two well preserved remains of stone circles. There are also in this > area > surviving traces of what appear to be megalithic burials. There is no > doubt > of > the antiquity of these stone circles and of their importance as > archaelogical > remains of the Bronze Age period of our history. They stand as memorials > to > those who recognised the sun as the centre of the universe, the source of > all > life. > Choose a subject. > > > was there a settlement of anglo saxons there > > maybe another explaination of my halopgroup > > Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist > using Genetics to connect > Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinnin > g- > carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mch > ug > h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop > ,M > a.- and ever an growing list > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > ~Even a small thorn causes festering.~ > > > > > ==== IRL-LONGFORD Mailing List ==== > ~Even a small thorn causes festering.~ > > >

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C50F9D.138088C0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:00 PM Subject: IRL-LONGFORD-D Digest V05 #38 ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C50F9D.138088C0 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="ATT00025.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ATT00025.eml" Content-Type: text/plain IRL-LONGFORD-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 38 Today's Topics: #1 REQUEST INFORMATION ON GREAT-GRAND [[email protected]] #2 Re: [LONGFORD] REQUEST INFORMATION ["Margaret & Randy" <[email protected]] #3 Re: [LONGFORD] REQUEST INFORMATION [[email protected]] #4 Beglin/Begnals of Longford [Doc <[email protected]>] Administrivia: ______________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C50F9D.138088C0 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="REQUEST INFORMATION ON GREAT-GRANDFATHER.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="REQUEST INFORMATION ON GREAT-GRANDFATHER.eml" X-Message: #1 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 23:29:44 EST From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: REQUEST INFORMATION ON GREAT-GRANDFATHER Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi, I am looking for information on Thomas F. Kerrigan, born 1848 in Longford. [May be Granard]. Thomas left Ireland for New York in 1863.He returned several times in the 1870's to visit his family. Thomas, a Piper performed in a variety of NYC theaters during the 1870's to 1880's. I'm interested in finding information about his family in Longford. Thank you, Ursula ______________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C50F9D.138088C0 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re_ [LONGFORD] REQUEST INFORMATION ON GREAT-GRANDFATHER - Kerrigan.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Re_ [LONGFORD] REQUEST INFORMATION ON GREAT-GRANDFATHER - Kerrigan.eml" X-Message: #2 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:45:33 -0600 From: "Margaret & Randy" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] REQUEST INFORMATION ON GREAT-GRANDFATHER - Kerrigan Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have you come across any of the Kerrigan's coming to Illinois? One of my relatives married one here in Ottawa IL (90 miles southwest of Chicago). Then I later find further references to the family in connection with my Longford Murray-Mahady relations. I have not found a county of origin on the Kerrigan's but have suspected they may also be from Longford. The fathers name (Thomas) came from on the childrens obits Descendants of Thomas Kerrigan 1 Thomas Kerrigan ......... 2 Michael Kerrigan ............. +Anna Clark ......... 2 Mary Kerrigan - 1946 d: May 1946 d: May 1946 in Chicago, IL ............. +Samuel Lowe ......... 2 James B. Kerrigan 1860 - 1925 b: Abt. 1860 in Ottawa, LaSalle Co., IL d: 1925 d: 1925 in Peoria, IL ......... 2 Thomas Kerrigan 1864 - 1911 b: Abt. 1864 d: Nov 02, 1911 d: Nov 02, 1911 in Ryburn Memorial Hospital, Ottawa, LaSalle Co., IL ......... 2 William Kerrigan 1875 - 1947 b: Abt. 1875 d: Feb 16, 1947 d: Feb 16, 1947 in Home, Chicago, Cook Co., IL ............. +Ellen Burke 1891 - 1939 b: Abt. 1891 in Wallace Twp., LaSalle County, IL d: Apr 02, 1939 d: Apr 02, 1939 in 1748 N. Rockwell St., Chicago, Cook Co., IL ______________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C50F9D.138088C0 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re_ [LONGFORD] REQUEST INFORMATION ON GREAT-GRANDFATHER - Kerrigan.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Re_ [LONGFORD] REQUEST INFORMATION ON GREAT-GRANDFATHER - Kerrigan.eml" X-Message: #3 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:05:07 EST From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LONGFORD] REQUEST INFORMATION ON GREAT-GRANDFATHER - Kerrigan Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I dont know if my Kerrigans are the ones that you are looking for but, we have a lot of the same names in the family. Thomas (Tos) was my uncle, James Daniel was my grandfather, and my ggrandfather was Nicholas. The family came from county Longford and landed in Pennsylvania in 1863. Maybe this will help you. Kathy Kerrigan Rocker ______________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C50F9D.138088C0 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Beglin_Begnals of Longford.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Beglin_Begnals of Longford.eml" X-Message: #4 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 06:59:09 -0800 From: Doc <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: Beglin/Begnals of Longford Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello List I have been informed that Beglins, "generally a Midlands name, originating in Longford then moving to Westmeath." Is there any one on this list with knowledge of Beglin or Begnals in Longford or in other counties? In a 1950 letter from Joseph Begnall, Milltown Pass Co. Westmeath, he mentions how Beglin's changed their name to Begnal...as did Michael Begnal about 1851 when he came to America. That Joseph himself changed his name to Begnall because of for Military and Political reasons for he was fighting in the Army of the Irish Republic. What year I do not know. Since I do not know exactly where my my great great grandfather Thomas H. Begnal, b. 1 Jan 1847 was born, I was hoping the the above info, would lead me to where these Beglins/Begnal's migrated to. I do know Thomas H. Begnal, married in the USA Margaret E. Shevlin, daughter of Denis and Catherine (Rice) Shevlin, came from Castleblayney, Co. Monaghan. gggf Thomas H. Begnal, > George Felix Begnal, > Clifford Franklin Begnal, > Newton Richard Begnal-Young, my father Any information is appreciated, -- Regards, D.R. "Doc" Begnal-Young - "Pay It Forward" Begnal-Blaschko/Blaszko/Blaskow-Perry/Pereira Cardoso-Wilson www.computer-firstaid.com/begnal_enterprises/genealogy.html San Gabriel, CA ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C50F9D.138088C0--

Hi, My G-Grandfather,Thomas F. Kerrigan left Ireland in 1863/64 and lived in Manhattn,NY. In 1873 a Mr.McNurney an alderman and wealthy horseshoer enjoyed hearing Thomas play the Pipes. He invited Thomas to Chicago where he set him up in the saloon business. He and McNurney often played the pipes together. Francis O'Neill of Chicago, wrote a story about Thomas F. Kerigan in his book " Irish Mnstrels and Musicians ". Through research, I discovered that Thomas F. Kerrigan had an infant son, named Thomas, who died in Chicago and was laid to rest in the gravesite of Mr.McNurney. I have not completed this research. Does the name Susan Barry seem familiar? Thank you, Ursula

Kathy Kerrigan Rocker: Hi, My Great-grandfather, Thomas F. Kerrigan was born in Granard, County Longford in 1848. His parents may have been Catherine Gallagher and Nicholas Kerrigan; but this is not certain. Thomas did have a sibling named James who lived in an area of Manhattan,NY called Hell's Kitchen. [ It is assumed James was his brother, but then again, he could have been a cousin or uncle]. James was married to a woman named Kate. They had several children. Thomas lived in Manhattan owned a tavern/restaurant on W42nd St. Manhattan,NY, called " KERRIGAN'S PLEASANT HOUR ." Thomas had a son ,Thomas F. Kerrigan Jr. who lived in New Jersey. He had 10 children, one of who may have moved to PA. Wish I could be of more help. Check to see if anyone in your family remembers a relative who was a Professional Piper. Thank you, Ursula

I dont know if my Kerrigans are the ones that you are looking for but, we have a lot of the same names in the family. Thomas (Tos) was my uncle, James Daniel was my grandfather, and my ggrandfather was Nicholas. The family came from county Longford and landed in Pennsylvania in 1863. Maybe this will help you. Kathy Kerrigan Rocker