There has been a couple of published works on Longford and one Macklin family was listed but only in the alpha index. Is there any way of locating where they lived in the village of Longford and environs? Eric Macklin

We have just added Taghshinny Churchyard Memorials to the IGP Archives for Longford. There are some CANNINGS and a couple of other names. You can check it out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/ Click on Longford and then Cemetery. Not huge, but something at last for Longford. :) Regards, Christina Ireland Genealogy Projects Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/

This may already have come up...but you can view part of County Longford and Its People: An Index to the 1901 Census for County Longford By David Leahy through Google Books. (Part of the book but a goodly part can be viewed.) http://books.google.com/books?id=-VVsKtiiQLQC Regards, Christina

Bill, This is the url. Just click on it and you will go straight there: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=authordetails&authorno=352225&name=Ireland%2E+General+Register+Office%2C+null&columns=*,0,0 Regards, Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy J. Morton" <bjmorton@poncacity.net> To: <irl-longford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Death certificate > Hi All > > How do Yu Get to the index for Birth and Deaths from the LDS? > 73s Bill > > If You can Read this, Thank a Teacher, Because it's is in English, Thank the > Past and Present Member's of the Navy, Marines, Army, and Air Force. > NAVY MARINE CORPS MARS Serving those who serve > Bill Morton Blackwell,Ok 74631 > E-Mail: nnn0gbo@navymars.org OR > bjmorton@poncacity.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Tfclougher@aol.com> > To: <irl-longford@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 3:38 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Death certificate > > > LDS has indexes of births and deaths 1860's onward. You could look up > brother Greer and she if sister is mentioned. At least get the townsland > where he > lived, then get the Census records 1871, 1881 and so on. > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All How do Yu Get to the index for Birth and Deaths from the LDS? 73s Bill If You can Read this, Thank a Teacher, Because it's is in English, Thank the Past and Present Member's of the Navy, Marines, Army, and Air Force. NAVY MARINE CORPS MARS Serving those who serve Bill Morton Blackwell,Ok 74631 E-Mail: nnn0gbo@navymars.org OR bjmorton@poncacity.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tfclougher@aol.com> To: <irl-longford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Death certificate LDS has indexes of births and deaths 1860's onward. You could look up brother Greer and she if sister is mentioned. At least get the townsland where he lived, then get the Census records 1871, 1881 and so on. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

LDS has indexes of births and deaths 1860's onward. You could look up brother Greer and she if sister is mentioned. At least get the townsland where he lived, then get the Census records 1871, 1881 and so on. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

I am wondering if someone can help me. I just found out that my grandmother was born in Longford. Since I cannot find out where, is there a list that shows death certificates. I am looking for her father. She was born around 1876 and her brother was born around 1878 or 1879. The reason for this information is that I am told that he died while she was young. His name is John Greer. His wife is Katie Kelly Greer. They say she lived much longer. Thank you, Elizabeth Grassi in NY ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

I have noticed a lot lately that when I search online for a place name in Ireland, Wikipedia pops up. I was poking around there today and found they have an Wikipedia Project on Ireland. It is not genealogy but has history and geography. You might enjoy looking around or bookmarking the site. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Ireland Also added to the IGP Archives this week were some Removals of Poor Irish in England to Ireland. The dates were 1867-69. About a dozen were deported to Co. Longford. To take a look go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/ Click on IRELAND GENERAL and then Miscellaneous. Regards, Christina Ireland Genealogy Projects, Longford Ireland Genealogy Projects Archives

Aileen and Jamie, It would have been most unusual--read "virtually unheard of"--to take the body of a decedent from Scotland to Ireland in the mid-nineteenth century. Bodies of ordinary people were very often not embalmed in that era, and the trip under sail and across land on roads that scarcely qualified for that description would have taken a lot longer than it would today. The dates to which you make reference, as well as the occupations of the people in question do not suggest that the family shuttled back and forth from Ireland to Scotland. 1845-1852 was the Famine period, and those who were lucky enough to be out of Ireland at the time were most unlikely to want to return to starvation and a high risk of death from the fever, famine dropsy, or typhus. Most would not have had the means to go in any event. A wool merchant was probably just what that sounds like--a sort of wholesaler who bought wool from farmers and sold it to end users. Unless your ancestor, Aileen, was quite well off, he would almost certainly not have had the resources to acquire land on which to run sheep in any quantity--especially in the Scots lowlands, which were already quite highly developed agriculturally and in the hands of large landowners. There was a considerable movement of Famine-era emigrants from Ireland to the Scots lowlands--especially Peeblesshire and East, Mid, and West Lothian, because there were jobs to be had there. Most Irish emigrants did end up working in the woolen mills at least for a time. Often these emigrants did not go to Scotland directly from their county of origin. In the nineteenth century, younger sons who had no reasonable chance of acquiring leases on arable land often migrated initially to the Avoca area of County Wicklow and worked in the mills there. When the Famine struck, they were less affected by it because the mills continued to function, so they were more likely than many to be able to afford passage across the Irish Sea. In addition, they had at least some woolen-trade skills to offer employers in lowland Scotland and the north and midlands of England, where textile manufacture was a growth industry. The best single source for tracing Irish emigres of this period who were in Geat Britain is the 1851 census. Church records are little bit dicey under these circumstances, because Catholic emigrants were often married by itinerant priests from Ireland, who may or may not have kept accurate records and whose records, such as they were, may or may not have survived. Nancy Gray -------------- Original message from "mike mertle" <michael.mertle@comcast.net>: -------------- > http://www.channel4.com/learning/main/netnotes/sectionid100663986.htm > article on irish migration to Scotland > -------Original Message------- > > From: James Mercer > Date: 07/11/07 10:13:55 > To: acoogan182@earthlink.net; irl-longford@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Longford to Scotland > > That I would like to know too as my ancestors came from Longford and resided > in Edinburgh. > > Jamie > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: irl-longford-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-longford-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von > acoogan182@earthlink.net > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2007 16:03 > An: IRL-LONGFORD@rootsweb.com > Betreff: [IRL-LONGFORD] Longford to Scotland > > I was wondering if anyone could suggest places where I might find > information on the people who moved from Longford to Scotland back in 1840s, > early 1850. Did they often go back and forth between Ireland and Scotland? > If a family patriarch died, would it have been unusual to take him home for > burial at that time? > > My ancestor, Daniel McGrath was born in Longford, then left for Scotland > where he married in 1850. His obituary says he was a wool merchant from > Longford when he came over from Ireland to Scotland which I assume means he > had a few sheep and sold their wool. When in Scotland some of the family > worked in the Woolen mills. Was there a shift of workers for Ireland to > Scotland in the wool business? > > Any help anyone could give me would be greatly appreciated. > > Aileen Coogan > acoogan182@earthlink.net > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/894 - Release Date: 7/10/2007 > 5:44 PM > > . > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

That I would like to know too as my ancestors came from Longford and resided in Edinburgh. Jamie -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: irl-longford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-longford-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von acoogan182@earthlink.net Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2007 16:03 An: IRL-LONGFORD@rootsweb.com Betreff: [IRL-LONGFORD] Longford to Scotland I was wondering if anyone could suggest places where I might find information on the people who moved from Longford to Scotland back in 1840s, early 1850. Did they often go back and forth between Ireland and Scotland? If a family patriarch died, would it have been unusual to take him home for burial at that time? My ancestor, Daniel McGrath was born in Longford, then left for Scotland where he married in 1850. His obituary says he was a wool merchant from Longford when he came over from Ireland to Scotland which I assume means he had a few sheep and sold their wool. When in Scotland some of the family worked in the Woolen mills. Was there a shift of workers for Ireland to Scotland in the wool business? Any help anyone could give me would be greatly appreciated. Aileen Coogan acoogan182@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://www.channel4.com/learning/main/netnotes/sectionid100663986.htm article on irish migration to Scotland -------Original Message------- From: James Mercer Date: 07/11/07 10:13:55 To: acoogan182@earthlink.net; irl-longford@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Longford to Scotland That I would like to know too as my ancestors came from Longford and resided in Edinburgh. Jamie -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: irl-longford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-longford-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von acoogan182@earthlink.net Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2007 16:03 An: IRL-LONGFORD@rootsweb.com Betreff: [IRL-LONGFORD] Longford to Scotland I was wondering if anyone could suggest places where I might find information on the people who moved from Longford to Scotland back in 1840s, early 1850. Did they often go back and forth between Ireland and Scotland? If a family patriarch died, would it have been unusual to take him home for burial at that time? My ancestor, Daniel McGrath was born in Longford, then left for Scotland where he married in 1850. His obituary says he was a wool merchant from Longford when he came over from Ireland to Scotland which I assume means he had a few sheep and sold their wool. When in Scotland some of the family worked in the Woolen mills. Was there a shift of workers for Ireland to Scotland in the wool business? Any help anyone could give me would be greatly appreciated. Aileen Coogan acoogan182@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/894 - Release Date: 7/10/2007 5:44 PM .

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I was wondering if anyone could suggest places where I might find information on the people who moved from Longford to Scotland back in 1840s, early 1850. Did they often go back and forth between Ireland and Scotland? If a family patriarch died, would it have been unusual to take him home for burial at that time? My ancestor, Daniel McGrath was born in Longford, then left for Scotland where he married in 1850. His obituary says he was a wool merchant from Longford when he came over from Ireland to Scotland which I assume means he had a few sheep and sold their wool. When in Scotland some of the family worked in the Woolen mills. Was there a shift of workers for Ireland to Scotland in the wool business? Any help anyone could give me would be greatly appreciated. Aileen Coogan acoogan182@earthlink.net

At 07:15 AM 7/10/2007, Christina Hunt wrote: >I am sending this on for your interest. (From Janet Crawford) >[...] >Petition to Minister Gormley, Minister for the Environment, Heritage >and Local Government, to Declare the Entire Hill of Tara Archaeological >Complex a National Monument and Re-route the M3 Motorway.[...] For more, see the Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N3_road But, alas, this is the price that is extracted for the amazing modernization of Ireland. I'm old enough to have traveled in a pony & trap from a house that wasn't electrified till well after WW2. It was charming for an American visitor, but my relatives soon gave up charm for electricity and plumbing immediately after the death of the family matriarch. Ireland has irretrievably changed to a prosperous land where you can jump on the motorway to go shop in the supermarket and return to surf the net. I doubt many would choose to go back to taking the pony & trap on a single lane road to the village on Fair Day. Bob Kirk

I am sending this on for your interest. (From Janet Crawford) Please come sign the petition To: Mr John Gormley, Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government, Ireland http://www.petitiononline.com/taram3/petition.html Petition to Minister Gormley, Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government, to Declare the Entire Hill of Tara Archaeological Complex a National Monument and Re-route the M3 Motorway. Published, 8 July 2007 by TaraWatch.org The Hill of Tara archaeological complex, Ireland's premier national monument and most sacred landscape, is under dire threat from imminent bisection by construction of the M3 motorway. As Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government, you have a constitutional imperative to give the highest level of statutory protection possible to the national monument. That includes all its individual components, many of which lie in the pathway of the M3, and are national monuments in their own right. You were aware that the Director of the National Museum had stated that the massive enclosure at Baronstown should have been declared a national monument. Yet, it was demolished on your watch, after you ignored calls to place a Temporary Preservation Order on the site. You have stated that you cannot alter the route of the M3, unless there is a "material change in circumstances", from those considered by Minister Dick Roche, who ordered the demolition of the newly discovered national monument; the Lismullin henge. There have in fact been many material changes, beyond the scope of the Lismullin file, including: 1. The inclusion of the Hill of Tara on the World Monuments Fund's List of 100 Most Endangered Sites is a material change in circumstances that was not considered by Minister Roche. 2. The fact that the EU has stated that the National Development Plan, as well as its M3 project, may be in breach of EU law constitutes a material change in circumstances. A report will issue in September 2007 from the Petitions Committee, and you should use the precautionary principle here, and halt the works in question, to prevent more irreversible damage to the delicate ancient remains. 3. The fact that an underground or 'souterrain' complex in Lismullin has been discovered is a material change in circumstances. It has been described as a "very significant" site by leading expert Professor George Eogan and should be declared a national monument. 4. The fact that you have been put on notice that the legal definition of a national monument is not being applied to these sites, or all monuments in Ireland, is a material change in circumstances. You have been advised by Conor Newman of a systemic flaw in the methodology for classification of national monuments currently being employed by the Chief State Archaeologist. 5. The Stern Report on the Economic Effects of Climate Change is a material change in circumstances that was not considered by Minister Roche, as it should have been. The M3 motorway was planned and approved in 2003, using radically outdated analysis. Due to the above material changes in circumstances you now have the legal power under the National Monuments Act to protect the Tara complex and to re-route the M3 motorway. We demand that you immediately halt all works within the Tara complex and declare the entire complex, as well as all the monuments within it, to be national monuments. Stop the Tara scandal now ------------------------------

MacLysaght, The Surnames of Ireland (Gaelic, Norman and Anglo-Saxon): GREER. variant of the Scottish MacGregor, Mac Griogher [which would sound like mac gree-ur, my note, Tom]. Northern Ireland, Ulster. GRIER. see GREER. Greir , not in book, probably a variant. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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I am interested. Ron Eustice ________________________________ From: irl-longford-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of irl-longford-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu 6/28/2007 1:17 AM To: irl-longford@rootsweb.com Subject: IRL-LONGFORD Digest, Vol 2, Issue 107 Today's Topics: 1. Re: "The Story of the Irish Race" (Bev Thomson) 2. Re: "The Story of the Irish Race" (Bev Thomson) 3. Re: Heaney / Forbes (June Brown) 4. Re: Heaney / Forbes (June Brown) 5. Unsubbing directions... (Christina Hunt) 6. Re: "The Story of the Irish Race" (GORDONFLOOD@webtv.net) 7. Re: Heaney / Forbes (Donal O'Kelly) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:35:11 -0400 From: "Bev Thomson" <b18627t@pronetisp.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] "The Story of the Irish Race" To: <irl-longford@rootsweb.com>, <Irish-canadian@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <008b01c7b8db$12e45150$a688f640@D912J871> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I have just been given copy of; "The Story of the Irish Race" by Seumas MacMANUS. It is a history of Ireland w/many Irish scholars contributing to the info. I already have a copy of this book - do not need two. I will give this one to whoever might care to have it. It is a well worn copy but is all OK. First response, it's yours. Contact me off-list. Bev ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:12:25 -0400 From: "Bev Thomson" <b18627t@pronetisp.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] "The Story of the Irish Race" To: <irl-longford@rootsweb.com>, <Irish-Canadian@rootsweb.net> Message-ID: <002401c7b8e6$b7fb3130$ca88f640@D912J871> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original The book has been spoken for. 1st response came thru abt 5 min's after I sent the post. Bev ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:24:40 +0100 From: "June Brown" <junelb@eircom.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Heaney / Forbes To: <irl-longford@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001b01c7b909$f490c100$4f9f7dc2@JuneBrowne> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" can you please delete my name from your web page Thank you June ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:52:17 +0100 From: "June Brown" <junelb@eircom.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Heaney / Forbes To: <irl-longford@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000801c7b90d$d1752fe0$4f9f7dc2@JuneBrowne> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I dont want any more of these emails please take me off you web site Thank you ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:53:48 -0400 From: Christina Hunt <filidh@carolina.rr.com> Subject: [IRL-LONGFORD] Unsubbing directions... To: <irl-longford@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <2007627185348.241390@VALUED-3253602F> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Unsubscribing directions are at the bottom of each and every email. Please do not send unsub requests to the list. That does not work. Thanks, Chris can you please delete my name from your web page Thank you June ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LONGFORD- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:14:55 -0400 From: GORDONFLOOD@webtv.net Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] "The Story of the Irish Race" To: irl-longford@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <16270-468327AF-1272@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII yes yes yes....my address? ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:17:36 -0700 From: "Donal O'Kelly" <ocollaugh@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Heaney / Forbes To: <irl-longford@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <006a01c7b94c$07423120$a1863847@don> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original The unsub address is on the footer of this message. ----- Original Message ----- From: "June Brown" <junelb@eircom.net> To: <irl-longford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LONGFORD] Heaney / Forbes >I dont want any more of these emails please take me off you web site > Thank you > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LONGFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/873 - Release Date: 6/26/2007 > 11:54 PM > > ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-LONGFORD list administrator, send an email to IRL-LONGFORD-admin@rootsweb.com. 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