First, let me thank everyone for their detailed analysis of these records. The reason for my question was exactly what you all addressed...whether or not I should start looking into land and valuation records. Although I had looked at all pages of the censuses (very fascinating to analyze the property and compare with the rest of the townland!), I had not noticed the different columns for head of household and landholder. So I thank you for reminding me to read everything!!! Geralynn, you offered a lookup so I will take you up on that. Do you have info on Michael Cronin/Cronan in Ballintubber townland, CP Darragh, PLU Kilmallock, co. Limerick OR Patrick Daly, Corderry townland, CP Clonbeg, PLU Tipperary, co. Tipperary. Michael was listed as the landholder in 1901 and his son-in-law, Laurence Quirke, in 1911 (I'm guessing it was the same property). Patrick Daly was deceased by 1901 but his widow, Margaret, was the landholder in 1901; in 1911 it is her son-in-law, Edmond Crowe. From what I've learned here, it seems I will need to check land records so thank you again!! Pat

Sorry, Patricia, but I do not have valuation revision lists for the townlands of Ballintober (DED Griston) or Corderry (DED Clonbeg). If you will be getting the films through the FHL, the film numbers seem to be: FHL 855421 - Valuation lists for Tipperary County, Tipperary Rural District,1856-1967; v. 7 Electoral division: Cloubeg [I think this is a typo in the FHL catalog and should be Clonbeg] FHL 850375 - Valuation lists for Limerick County, Kilmallock Rural District, 1858-1961; v. 19-20 Electoral division: Darragh Griston [Griston is probably v. 20] I highly recommend that you follow the property forward and backward in time. Good luck with it! Regards, Geralyn Wood Barry in Oregon On 6/14/2012 8:51 AM, Patricia Petrizzo wrote: > First, let me thank everyone for their detailed analysis of these records. The reason for my question was exactly what you all addressed...whether or not I should start looking into land and valuation records. Although I had looked at all pages of the censuses (very fascinating to analyze the property and compare with the rest of the townland!), I had not noticed the different columns for head of household and landholder. So I thank you for reminding me to read everything!!! > > Geralynn, you offered a lookup so I will take you up on that. Do you have info on Michael Cronin/Cronan in Ballintubber townland, CP Darragh, PLU Kilmallock, co. Limerick OR Patrick Daly, Corderry townland, CP Clonbeg, PLU Tipperary, co. Tipperary. Michael was listed as the landholder in 1901 and his son-in-law, Laurence Quirke, in 1911 (I'm guessing it was the same property). Patrick Daly was deceased by 1901 but his widow, Margaret, was the landholder in 1901; in 1911 it is her son-in-law, Edmond Crowe. From what I've learned here, it seems I will need to check land records so thank you again!! Pat >