Valerie: My mistake, before you supplied the name of the paper and the year, I did a search for the terms "james russell" AND "crowe" on http://www.limerickcity.ie site and it returned the following: : Russell File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat Married last Saturday, Mr James Russell to Miss Crowe, daughter of the late Mr William Crowe, merchant, handsome fortune. Clonmell Gazette, Thrs 3 July 1788 ... www.limerickcity.ie/media/Russell-7.pdf So I assumed that the marriage announcement came from the Clonmell Gazette for 3 Jul 1788 and that the marriage records on rootsireland.ie and familysearch.org didn't match since they were from 1787. ( I should have clicked on the link to the PDF document itself rather than rely on text that was returned by the limerickcity.ie search !) But you might want to check out that document out anyhow at www.limerickcity.ie/media/Russell-7.pdf (it appears to be an extraction of every person they could find with the surname Russesll that had anything at all to do with Limerick city. ) Happy Hunting! Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Little.House.Antiques" <little.house.antiques@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] What was Miss Crowes given name That marriage article from Clonmell Gazette, Thrs 3 July 1788 (via limerickcity.ie) Found same marriage as you on rootsireland.ie and as you say 1787 is the year and the C of I parish of St Mary's in Limerick City is the place. Would marriage notice not have been printed until 8 months later???? From: "Carla Johnson" <csj0767@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] What was Miss Crowes given name Without having a year, but assuming that you are looking for an older record. I took a look at familysearch and found this one. James Russell married Margaret Crowe on 17 Nov 1787 Cathedral St. Mary, Limerick, Limerick, Ireland Carla --- On Thu, 4/19/12, Little.House.Antiques <little.house.antiques@comcast.net> wrote: Limerick 19th...what YEAR???? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie B Garton" <vbgarton@optusnet.com.au> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] What was Miss Crowes given name Limerick 19th: Married last Saturday, Mr James Russell to Miss Crowe, daughter of the late Mr William Crowe, merchant, handsome fortune. We need to find out Miss Crowes given name. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to find Miss Crowes given name please ? Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney