Hi Patty I can't help you with your search but I just wanted to mention that my great grandparents also came out on the 'Tudor' and lived in Port Elizabeth. William Harold was from Derry but Ann McCoy, his wife, was from Limerick. There seems to have been quite a number of passengers from Limerick. They also had some of the children christened in the same church as yours. Unfortunately I have hit a brick wall as far as my crowd are concerned but, if I come across anything useful, I will let you know. Regards Monica On 17 January 2013 13:44, Patty Myers <pattym@frontlineum.co.za> wrote: > Hi there > > I'm someone out there can help me. > > My great great grandmother Bridget Kearney/Carney age 18 came over from > Ireland to South Africa in 1861 on the ship the Coldstream II. With her > on > the ship were Edmond/Edmund Kearney age 22 (they were both single), John > age > 26 with his wife Mary 25 (maiden name unknown). I don't know if they were > siblings or cousins. Opposite the entry for John it shows FROM: LIMERICK. > They were all coming to a Patrick Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > Now.Patrick Kearney age 24 came over with his wife Catherine Shaughnessy > age > 20 on the ship Tudor in 1860 (so this is the one the above came over to). > With them on the ship were James Kearney age 26 and Margaret Dwyer (they > only married after they arrived). > > > > There was also a John Kearney age 27 from Nicolas Street, Limerick that > came over in 1864 to a Mary Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > I have found a Death Notice here for James Kearney and Margaret Dwyer but > they have recorded it as CARNEY. I'm not sure if maybe the Irish > pronunciation made them write it as it sounded. Margaret was present at > his > death but she couldn't write so she made her mark with an X. > > On his Death Notice it states that he was from Broadford Co. Clare and his > parents are recorded as Michael Carney and Mary Naughton. > > > > I am convinced that they are all related as the marriages and baptisms that > took place for all them at the St Augustine's Catholic Church in Port > Elizabeth show them as witnesses to these events. > > > > I am desperately trying to find out who Bridget's parents were and where > she > was born and baptised. The fact that Limerick is mentioned makes me think > that maybe the whole family came from there. > > > > All help will be greatly appreciated. > > Kind regards > > Patty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Monica I'm in the same boat as you as far as the brick wall is concerned. I have managed to obtain quite a bit of information from the Catholic Diocese in Port Elizabeth but it's everything that happened here. I know it's very difficult to get info in Ireland and everything was only recorded after 1864. Best we just KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON. What are you stuck with, maybe I can help on this side. Are you also in SA? Regards Patty -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Monica Sutherland Sent: 17 January 2013 04:32 PM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] KEARNEY/CARNEY Hi Patty I can't help you with your search but I just wanted to mention that my great grandparents also came out on the 'Tudor' and lived in Port Elizabeth. William Harold was from Derry but Ann McCoy, his wife, was from Limerick. There seems to have been quite a number of passengers from Limerick. They also had some of the children christened in the same church as yours. Unfortunately I have hit a brick wall as far as my crowd are concerned but, if I come across anything useful, I will let you know. Regards Monica On 17 January 2013 13:44, Patty Myers <pattym@frontlineum.co.za> wrote: > Hi there > > I'm someone out there can help me. > > My great great grandmother Bridget Kearney/Carney age 18 came over from > Ireland to South Africa in 1861 on the ship the Coldstream II. With her > on > the ship were Edmond/Edmund Kearney age 22 (they were both single), > John age > 26 with his wife Mary 25 (maiden name unknown). I don't know if they > were siblings or cousins. Opposite the entry for John it shows FROM: LIMERICK. > They were all coming to a Patrick Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > Now.Patrick Kearney age 24 came over with his wife Catherine > Shaughnessy age > 20 on the ship Tudor in 1860 (so this is the one the above came over to). > With them on the ship were James Kearney age 26 and Margaret Dwyer > (they only married after they arrived). > > > > There was also a John Kearney age 27 from Nicolas Street, Limerick > that came over in 1864 to a Mary Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > I have found a Death Notice here for James Kearney and Margaret Dwyer > but they have recorded it as CARNEY. I'm not sure if maybe the Irish > pronunciation made them write it as it sounded. Margaret was present > at his death but she couldn't write so she made her mark with an X. > > On his Death Notice it states that he was from Broadford Co. Clare and > his parents are recorded as Michael Carney and Mary Naughton. > > > > I am convinced that they are all related as the marriages and baptisms > that took place for all them at the St Augustine's Catholic Church in > Port Elizabeth show them as witnesses to these events. > > > > I am desperately trying to find out who Bridget's parents were and > where she was born and baptised. The fact that Limerick is mentioned > makes me think that maybe the whole family came from there. > > > > All help will be greatly appreciated. > > Kind regards > > Patty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Patty Yip, I am in SA. I have been looking through quite a few Church registers here and have found quite a lot. My biggest nightmare are my Irish ancestors and, to make it more complicated, the one now could have originally come from Scotland and not Derry. I also had a French problem but that has, after donkey's years more or less got sorted out. Are you in PE? If so perhaps you could check out the Catholic Church there for William Harold and Ann McCoy's children though, I believe, she fell out with the Priest and her latter children were all baptised in the Anglican Church. Likewise, if there is anything you would like me to keep my eyes open for, I will be only too happy to do so. Kind regards Monica On 18 January 2013 08:27, Patty Myers <pattym@frontlineum.co.za> wrote: > Hi Monica > I'm in the same boat as you as far as the brick wall is concerned. I have > managed to obtain quite a bit of information from the Catholic Diocese in > Port Elizabeth but it's everything that happened here. I know it's very > difficult to get info in Ireland and everything was only recorded after > 1864. Best we just KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON. > What are you stuck with, maybe I can help on this side. Are you also in > SA? > Regards > Patty > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Monica Sutherland > Sent: 17 January 2013 04:32 PM > To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] KEARNEY/CARNEY > > Hi Patty > > I can't help you with your search but I just wanted to mention that my > great > grandparents also came out on the 'Tudor' and lived in Port Elizabeth. > William Harold was from Derry but Ann McCoy, his wife, was from Limerick. > There seems to have been quite a number of passengers from Limerick. They > also had some of the children christened in the same church as yours. > Unfortunately I have hit a brick wall as far as my crowd are concerned but, > if I come across anything useful, I will let you know. > > Regards > Monica > > On 17 January 2013 13:44, Patty Myers <pattym@frontlineum.co.za> wrote: > > > Hi there > > > > I'm someone out there can help me. > > > > My great great grandmother Bridget Kearney/Carney age 18 came over from > > Ireland to South Africa in 1861 on the ship the Coldstream II. With her > > on > > the ship were Edmond/Edmund Kearney age 22 (they were both single), > > John age > > 26 with his wife Mary 25 (maiden name unknown). I don't know if they > > were siblings or cousins. Opposite the entry for John it shows FROM: > LIMERICK. > > They were all coming to a Patrick Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > > > > > Now.Patrick Kearney age 24 came over with his wife Catherine > > Shaughnessy age > > 20 on the ship Tudor in 1860 (so this is the one the above came over to). > > With them on the ship were James Kearney age 26 and Margaret Dwyer > > (they only married after they arrived). > > > > > > > > There was also a John Kearney age 27 from Nicolas Street, Limerick > > that came over in 1864 to a Mary Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > > > > > I have found a Death Notice here for James Kearney and Margaret Dwyer > > but they have recorded it as CARNEY. I'm not sure if maybe the Irish > > pronunciation made them write it as it sounded. Margaret was present > > at his death but she couldn't write so she made her mark with an X. > > > > On his Death Notice it states that he was from Broadford Co. Clare and > > his parents are recorded as Michael Carney and Mary Naughton. > > > > > > > > I am convinced that they are all related as the marriages and baptisms > > that took place for all them at the St Augustine's Catholic Church in > > Port Elizabeth show them as witnesses to these events. > > > > > > > > I am desperately trying to find out who Bridget's parents were and > > where she was born and baptised. The fact that Limerick is mentioned > > makes me think that maybe the whole family came from there. > > > > > > > > All help will be greatly appreciated. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Patty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ====================== > > Query Board > > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Monica No, unfortunately I'm not in PE, I live in Durban. But you can contact Helena at the Catholic Diocese - email address: archives@aerosat.co.za . She will look up for you but they charge R80.00 per person per parish. Can get quite pricey. That's how I got all my marriage and baptism records. She will need dates though so if you can give her those, she will be too happy to do it for you. I also have a "French Connection" so to speak. My aunt says that my other great great grandmother was a LaTouche, originally from France and then Ireland. Well there are loads of LaTouche's in Ireland, mainly Dublin, but I can't find an Anne Maria. I even contacted the Latouche legacy but they have no trace of her either. Another brick wall. I'm also looking for a William Hughes (my great great grandfather) who was also from Ireland but where in Ireland I have no idea. I don't know why he ended up here either. He married Bridget Kearney/Carney. And so the mystery continues...................... Regards Patty -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Monica Sutherland Sent: 18 January 2013 03:08 PM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] KEARNEY/CARNEY Hi Patty Yip, I am in SA. I have been looking through quite a few Church registers here and have found quite a lot. My biggest nightmare are my Irish ancestors and, to make it more complicated, the one now could have originally come from Scotland and not Derry. I also had a French problem but that has, after donkey's years more or less got sorted out. Are you in PE? If so perhaps you could check out the Catholic Church there for William Harold and Ann McCoy's children though, I believe, she fell out with the Priest and her latter children were all baptised in the Anglican Church. Likewise, if there is anything you would like me to keep my eyes open for, I will be only too happy to do so. Kind regards Monica On 18 January 2013 08:27, Patty Myers <pattym@frontlineum.co.za> wrote: > Hi Monica > I'm in the same boat as you as far as the brick wall is concerned. I > have managed to obtain quite a bit of information from the Catholic > Diocese in Port Elizabeth but it's everything that happened here. I > know it's very difficult to get info in Ireland and everything was > only recorded after 1864. Best we just KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON. > What are you stuck with, maybe I can help on this side. Are you also > in SA? > Regards > Patty > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Monica > Sutherland > Sent: 17 January 2013 04:32 PM > To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] KEARNEY/CARNEY > > Hi Patty > > I can't help you with your search but I just wanted to mention that my > great grandparents also came out on the 'Tudor' and lived in Port > Elizabeth. > William Harold was from Derry but Ann McCoy, his wife, was from Limerick. > There seems to have been quite a number of passengers from Limerick. > They also had some of the children christened in the same church as yours. > Unfortunately I have hit a brick wall as far as my crowd are concerned > but, if I come across anything useful, I will let you know. > > Regards > Monica > > On 17 January 2013 13:44, Patty Myers <pattym@frontlineum.co.za> wrote: > > > Hi there > > > > I'm someone out there can help me. > > > > My great great grandmother Bridget Kearney/Carney age 18 came over from > > Ireland to South Africa in 1861 on the ship the Coldstream II. With her > > on > > the ship were Edmond/Edmund Kearney age 22 (they were both single), > > John age > > 26 with his wife Mary 25 (maiden name unknown). I don't know if > > they were siblings or cousins. Opposite the entry for John it shows FROM: > LIMERICK. > > They were all coming to a Patrick Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > > > > > Now.Patrick Kearney age 24 came over with his wife Catherine > > Shaughnessy age > > 20 on the ship Tudor in 1860 (so this is the one the above came over to). > > With them on the ship were James Kearney age 26 and Margaret Dwyer > > (they only married after they arrived). > > > > > > > > There was also a John Kearney age 27 from Nicolas Street, Limerick > > that came over in 1864 to a Mary Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > > > > > I have found a Death Notice here for James Kearney and Margaret > > Dwyer but they have recorded it as CARNEY. I'm not sure if maybe > > the Irish pronunciation made them write it as it sounded. Margaret > > was present at his death but she couldn't write so she made her mark with an X. > > > > On his Death Notice it states that he was from Broadford Co. Clare > > and his parents are recorded as Michael Carney and Mary Naughton. > > > > > > > > I am convinced that they are all related as the marriages and > > baptisms that took place for all them at the St Augustine's Catholic > > Church in Port Elizabeth show them as witnesses to these events. > > > > > > > > I am desperately trying to find out who Bridget's parents were and > > where she was born and baptised. The fact that Limerick is > > mentioned makes me think that maybe the whole family came from there. > > > > > > > > All help will be greatly appreciated. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Patty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ====================== > > Query Board > > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message