Hi, My ggggrandfather Paul Hughes died in 1843 in Adelaide, Middlesex, Ontario. Fortunately I checked his land records at the land registry office and they had a copy of his will. The court house there had had a fire and his will was one of the ones burned. Anyways in his will he mentiones the second to the oldest as executor and guardian of the four youngest children and also another daughter he gave something to. He however never mentioned his wife Lady Maria Louisa Fitzgerald Hughes, nor any of the other four children. I have yet to determine whether or not she was alive or had died when she had the youngest child which was my gggrandfather. Her father John Fitzgerald was an Attorney in Limerick City. I also believe I found her brother John Coote Fitzgerald in Liverpool, England. He married an Elizabeth Nott Paton. She had children from her previous marriage. It doesn't appear that they ever had children together. I have his death certificate. Now I am trying to see if he had an obituary and then I will see if he had a will. I am not sure when John Senior died or whether there was a will for him. I suspect that he died sometime in 1830's and that his wife may have remarried. I have the Curator for the St. Mary's Cathedral in Limerick is looking at all of the parish records for me and trying to find information on the Fitzgerald and Hughes. Carla littlehouseantiques@att.net wrote: The ONLY other reason that occurs to me that a wife might not be mentioned in the will of her husband is if she had an independent "fortune" or income/inheritance of her own that pre-cluded her needing to be 'provided' for by her husband? -------------- Original message from "Jan Fortado" : -------------- > I have another situation with a will and no mention of a wife, and I know > she was still living when her husband died. I have the will of an Anthony > Carroll, just across the Limerick border, in the parish of Kildorrery, Cork. > He married in the 1860's (wife was about 40). In his will of 1884, he makes > no mention at all of his wife, but she was living. In fact, she lived until > the early 1900's. There were no children mentioned, but since they married > older, this makes sense. > > I am really puzzled by the will making no mention of the wife. I can think > that maybe the marriage wasn't a good one? That they were separated? > > If anyone has found a similar situation, I would be interested in hearing > about it. > > Thank you, > Jan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Carla. Do you know why she was called Lady Maria. I have a person who was known as Lady Elizabeth Culloden when in actual fact she was Mrs W A Robinson nee Culloden Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow & Wexford Guild of One-Name Studies No: 4825 for CULLODEN & HIGGINSON -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carla Johnson Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2008 2:20 PM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Cc: Jan Fortado Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Question on wife not mentioned in will Hi, My ggggrandfather Paul Hughes died in 1843 in Adelaide, Middlesex, Ontario. Fortunately I checked his land records at the land registry office and they had a copy of his will. The court house there had had a fire and his will was one of the ones burned. Anyways in his will he mentiones the second to the oldest as executor and guardian of the four youngest children and also another daughter he gave something to. He however never mentioned his wife Lady Maria Louisa Fitzgerald Hughes, nor any of the other four children. I have yet to determine whether or not she was alive or had died when she had the youngest child which was my gggrandfather. Her father John Fitzgerald was an Attorney in Limerick City. I also believe I found her brother John Coote Fitzgerald in Liverpool, England. He married an Elizabeth Nott Paton. She had children from her previous marriage. It doesn't appear that they ever had children together. I have his death certificate. Now I am trying to see if he had an obituary and then I will see if he had a will. I am not sure when John Senior died or whether there was a will for him. I suspect that he died sometime in 1830's and that his wife may have remarried. I have the Curator for the St. Mary's Cathedral in Limerick is looking at all of the parish records for me and trying to find information on the Fitzgerald and Hughes. Carla littlehouseantiques@att.net wrote: The ONLY other reason that occurs to me that a wife might not be mentioned in the will of her husband is if she had an independent "fortune" or income/inheritance of her own that pre-cluded her needing to be 'provided' for by her husband? -------------- Original message from "Jan Fortado" : -------------- > I have another situation with a will and no mention of a wife, and I > know > she was still living when her husband died. I have the will of an Anthony > Carroll, just across the Limerick border, in the parish of Kildorrery, Cork. > He married in the 1860's (wife was about 40). In his will of 1884, he makes > no mention at all of his wife, but she was living. In fact, she lived until > the early 1900's. There were no children mentioned, but since they married > older, this makes sense. > > I am really puzzled by the will making no mention of the wife. I can > think > that maybe the marriage wasn't a good one? That they were separated? > > If anyone has found a similar situation, I would be interested in > hearing > about it. > > Thank you, > Jan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Valerie, I am not really sure. However from a cousin I got a short family tree that had been told by Lady Marias son Frederick to this cousins father. He said that his mother was called Lady Maria Louisa Fitzgerald. and also that his father was a Welsh Military man. I have his military file what there is of it. Now her father was an Attorney on I believe Frances St. in Limerick City and he did whatever needed to be done in all courts. The only thing else is that in the Freemans records there are only two John Fitzgeralds listed for the right time frame and they are both of Knights of Glin. I still need to do some searching for stuff in Limerick. Currently the Archivest at St. Mary's Cathedral in Limerick is doing a research on theses Fitzgeralds. John Sr., Ann, Maria Louisa, John Coote, Henry. They are looking for John and Anns marriage which I believe was in 1802 at St. Johns Church also Maria was born 1803. They are also looking for my Hughes. Ensign Paul Hughes of the 79th Cameron Highlanders and 93rd Highlanders, William, Robert, John, twins Wellington, Anna Maria, Charles, Henry. The christening of Robert, John, Wellington, Anna Maria can be found in the St. Mary's Cathedral film which I got from the LDS Library in Salt Lake. I have it on permanent loan. Carla Valerie Garton <vbgarton@optusnet.com.au> wrote: Hello Carla. Do you know why she was called Lady Maria. I have a person who was known as Lady Elizabeth Culloden when in actual fact she was Mrs W A Robinson nee Culloden Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow & Wexford Guild of One-Name Studies No: 4825 for CULLODEN & HIGGINSON -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carla Johnson Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2008 2:20 PM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Cc: Jan Fortado Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Question on wife not mentioned in will Hi, My ggggrandfather Paul Hughes died in 1843 in Adelaide, Middlesex, Ontario. Fortunately I checked his land records at the land registry office and they had a copy of his will. The court house there had had a fire and his will was one of the ones burned. Anyways in his will he mentiones the second to the oldest as executor and guardian of the four youngest children and also another daughter he gave something to. He however never mentioned his wife Lady Maria Louisa Fitzgerald Hughes, nor any of the other four children. I have yet to determine whether or not she was alive or had died when she had the youngest child which was my gggrandfather. Her father John Fitzgerald was an Attorney in Limerick City. I also believe I found her brother John Coote Fitzgerald in Liverpool, England. He married an Elizabeth Nott Paton. She had children from her previous marriage. It doesn't appear that they ever had children together. I have his death certificate. Now I am trying to see if he had an obituary and then I will see if he had a will. I am not sure when John Senior died or whether there was a will for him. I suspect that he died sometime in 1830's and that his wife may have remarried. I have the Curator for the St. Mary's Cathedral in Limerick is looking at all of the parish records for me and trying to find information on the Fitzgerald and Hughes. Carla littlehouseantiques@att.net wrote: The ONLY other reason that occurs to me that a wife might not be mentioned in the will of her husband is if she had an independent "fortune" or income/inheritance of her own that pre-cluded her needing to be 'provided' for by her husband? -------------- Original message from "Jan Fortado" : -------------- > I have another situation with a will and no mention of a wife, and I > know > she was still living when her husband died. I have the will of an Anthony > Carroll, just across the Limerick border, in the parish of Kildorrery, Cork. > He married in the 1860's (wife was about 40). In his will of 1884, he makes > no mention at all of his wife, but she was living. In fact, she lived until > the early 1900's. There were no children mentioned, but since they married > older, this makes sense. > > I am really puzzled by the will making no mention of the wife. I can > think > that maybe the marriage wasn't a good one? That they were separated? > > If anyone has found a similar situation, I would be interested in > hearing > about it. > > Thank you, > Jan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message