looking for John Pendergast in early 1800 who went to Canada Thanks Kathy Wood ----- Original Message ---- From: "irl-limerick-request@rootsweb.com" <irl-limerick-request@rootsweb.com> To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:33:02 PM Subject: IRL-LIMERICK Digest, Vol 3, Issue 179 Information Wanted: http://infowanted.bc.edu/ Today's Topics: 1. Latin (Ron Baker) 2. Book of Hospital (Elaine Murphy) 3. Re: Latin (Steve Franklin) 4. Search Help - Patrick Hannigan (Robyn Clarke) 5. CURRAN/LYNCH (Susan) 6. Fw: McAllister history -Limerick city-some help oradvice please. (John McAllister) 7. Re: Ssearch Help - Patrick Hannigan (littlehouseantiques@att.net) 8. Re: Book of Hospital (les wright) 9. Re: Book of Hospital (les wright) 10. IFHF Database "weirdness" to watch out for (littlehouseantiques@att.net) 11. Alumni Dublineses - GUBBINS (Christina Hunt) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:34:31 +1000 From: "Ron Baker" <bakeron@optusnet.com.au> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Latin To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <578DD62DFE424E39B687EBE92CA09B6A@Workstation> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Latin: Help please: I have a relative with a Latin entry in a marriage register, the date is Julia 23 1826 and a family member insists that in English the date is 23 June. Would it not be more likely to be July? TIA Ron ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:06:35 +1100 From: "Elaine Murphy" <emurphy@netconnect.com.au> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Book of Hospital To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001a01c88a1e$42ded190$0201010a@nana> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Could you please check if there is any mention of CANTY in the Hospital Book. Regards Elaine ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:18:15 -0700 From: Steve Franklin <macdummy@montanasky.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Latin To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <47E1BB57.2010609@montanasky.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ron Baker wrote: > Latin: Help please: > > I have a relative with a Latin entry in a marriage register, the date is Julia 23 1826 and a family member insists that in English the date is 23 June. Would it not be more likely to be July? > > TIA > Ron > > > > > Ron: According to a Latin translator site, the following would be the Latin months: Iunius Iuniis Iunias Equals June Iulius Iuliis Iulias Equals July I am assuming that the "I" in Latin would be a "J" in English. Steve No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1335 - Release Date: 3/19/08 9:54 AM ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:15:36 +1100 From: "Robyn Clarke" <rsclarke@bigpond.com> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Search Help - Patrick Hannigan To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <002d01c88a1f$85cea1f0$0300000a@pc> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original John, Re Parish Priest and local records. Just for your information, I contributed to a poor box, instead of a personal payment to the Priest, this was his wish. BUT he couldn't find even a mention of my requested surname TRISTRAM in his Registers. I knew the family had been born there and when, they were Church of Ireland and had other relatives in the same area with the same surname. No sight of any of them. I kept in contact for about three months, asking if he could just check this book and that Parish and eventually gave up, as my pockets were empty. It seems the only thorough and complete search, is to do it oneself........and for many this is possible it seems, but for those like myself over the pond in Australia and unable to travel, one has to rely on the wonderful help of others....I can't even borrow LDS films relating to some parts of Ireland, told not available in Australia! Well that's my whinge....on with the search. Robyn N.S.W. Australia ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:32:31 -0500 From: "Susan" <jennison@iowatelecom.net> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] CURRAN/LYNCH To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <03af01c88a21$e2b389b0$0cfb4245@your4dacd0ea75> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Does anyone have a PATRICK CURRAN married to MARGARET LYNCH Nov. 28, 1855 in Bruff Parish... Witnesses were MICHAEL LYNCH & MARGARET LYNCH. Does anyone have info on their children?? Thanks, Susan ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:25:04 +1100 From: "John McAllister" <rjmcallister@optusnet.com.au> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Fw: McAllister history -Limerick city-some help oradvice please. To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000301c88a23$47df63d0$304c6e3a@jmcallister> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original ----- Original Message ----- From: "John McAllister" <rjmcallister@optusnet.com.au> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] McAllister history -Limerick city-some help oradvice please. > Greetings to Cathy,Christina,and any other good hearted readers; > I am from Melbourne Australia and trying to find McAllister history > ,Limerick, in general, and of one PATRICK McALLISTER,in particular. > Patrick McAllister was a hatter in Limerick city;his wife/partner was a > Mary Flaherty. > They had three children--Joan (8/1807;Mary (1/1809) JAMES( 2/1813). > Baptism cert. for James shows he was baptised 13/2/1813 St.Marys Parish > Diocese of Limerick,parents as stated and sponsors James Dwyer,Mary > Nestor. James married Ellen Clohessy 10/1837 and both then came to > Australia. > Can anyone help me with ideas/information concerning where PATRICK > McALLISTER or when born and/or death. > Any information/advice would be gratefully received. > John McAllister (rjmcallister@optusnet.com.au) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 02:19:26 +0000 From: littlehouseantiques@att.net Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Ssearch Help - Patrick Hannigan To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <032020080219.5826.47E1C9AC000534C7000016C222218865869B0A02D29B9B0EBF9C0A9A9E079B020E0A9C9A01080A049B9B0704@att.net> John, Can't speak as to what it is like in Ireland but in NYC parish priests don't normally take well to vague requests such as "can you look up all Hannigan births in your parish?" Usually they want a given name and a date (or at least a limited date range). What date range would you give in your case? You've got a birth rec for Patrick Hannigan of 1838 and no idea where in the birth order he falls. For the sake of argument lets assume his mother married at abt age 20 and therefore could in all liklihood bear children for the next 20 years--since you don't know when she married or what birth order of children is you'd have to search for 20 years on either side of Patrick's DOB (1838) or in other words from 1818-1858. So let's use the databases at the IFHF and do that--and find all the Hannigans who were born and baptised in Bulgaden Parish during that time period. 1st pull all Hannigans (any spelling) in Co Limerick; you get 399 - ranging from 1758 and onwards (note it won't show you all 399 rather just the first 10 but they are the first 10 in date order so at least you know how far back these recs go but you don't know where they end) but that's okay, we've got a range to check so now we are gonna do that beginning with 1818 (you can really skip this step and just start looking for Hannigans with your date range, but I like to check because you might catch a break and find that for the date range you are researching that they don't even have recs back to 1818 so it would save some steps to know this before you start going in year by year) This is NOT the case for this example though as they've got recs all the way back to 1758 so I'm going to have to check each and every year in the range. 2nd Plug in surname Hannigan (leave given name blank) and plug in first year of your range. Now copy what comes up for the first year. For example for 1818 there are two; for 1819 there are 4, etc. When you finish doing this for the range 1818-1858 you end up with 187 records. WHY do you have to do this? BECAUSE YOU NEED THE GIVEN NAME of EACH Hannigan in order to search by Parish. The IFHF site will not let you do a parish search withOUT having a GIVEN name; it also will not do any 'variant' matching on given names, i.e. if you enter William and the record is actually out there under Wm. then it will NOT find the record. 3rd take these 187 recs and throw them into a word processing program (MS Word or whatever you've got) and SORT them alphabetically. This will group all the different ways the surname is spelled and then within that will group all of the given names that are the same together--they'll be out of date order but this will make the next step easier. 4th ONE at a time enter the EXACT surname spelling the EXACT given name and set the parish parameter to the one you are researching (in this case BULGADEN) and check your list and enter the YEAR for that entry. Working your way through our list of 187 Hannigans you'll eventually find that there are only 13 that took place in the Parish of Bulgaden and they are: Baptism Hannigan Alice 1840 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN Baptism Hannigan Joh. 1818 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN Baptism Hannigan John 1845 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN Baptism Hannigan John 1845 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN Baptism Hannigan Kate 1836 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN Baptism Hannigan Kate 1837 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN Baptism Hannigan Kate 1847 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN Baptism Hannigan Maria 1841 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN Baptism Hannigan Michael 1842 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN Baptism Hannigan Patk. 1838 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN Baptism Hannigan Patk. 1838 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN Baptism Hannigan Patk. 1843 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN Baptism Hannigan Thady 1842 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN NOW, go to that parish priest and ask him to look these up for ya! You won't be wasting his time and it will be easier for him to find what he is looking for armed with both NAMES and DATES. Or plunk down your 65 Euros and see them online :-( (you know you will have to send "contribution" to the PP for these recs right? don't know what the "expected" amount is though--maybe less than 65 Euro? maybe more???) Kathy Rhodes -- Original message from Hannigan Family Research research@hannigangenealogy.us>: -- I appreciate the help in tracking down these records. My next step will be to get the specific record and contact the parish priest to see if he can provide additional help. Has anyone on the list been successful in a parish priest providing copies of records? Are they just recorded in a logbook register or are they actual certificates that provide additional information? I assume that contacting the parish priest at Bulgaden would be a logical step to see if there were other siblings. Thanks again for the help. John Hannigan Florida ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:15:36 +1000 From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Book of Hospital To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001e01c88a30$49387840$960bfea9@les> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I know without looking that Canty is in the book, but I will get back to you soon, Easter is taking my time at present. Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine Murphy" <emurphy@netconnect.com.au> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 10:06 AM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Book of Hospital > Hi > Could you please check if there is any mention of CANTY in the Hospital > Book. > > Regards > Elaine > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:16:42 +1000 From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Book of Hospital To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <003601c88a30$70371320$960bfea9@les> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Will get back to you soon. Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverley Rodan" <bevrodan@iinet.net.au> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:24 AM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Book of Hospital > Hi Robyn, > Is it possible to look in your book of Hospital for the names > HENNEBERY (or equivalent), CONWAY, MAHAR or HOURIGAN in the book of > Hospital. I have a record of birth of Peter HOURIGAN, 27 Jun 1865, > son of Richard HOURIGAN and Bridget nee CONWAY. I think I have found > the HOURIGAN family in Shronell parish, townland of Ballinglanna. > This is near Hospital. The Conway, Mahar and Hennebery family may be > from the Hospital area. > Thankyou for your help. > Bev Rodan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 02:35:25 +0000 From: littlehouseantiques@att.net Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] IFHF Database "weirdness" to watch out for To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <032020080235.29872.47E1CD6D000103C6000074B022218865869B0A02D29B9B0EBF9C0A9A9E079B020E0A9C9A01080A049B9B0704@att.net> Content-Type: text/plain List, Be aware that the IFHF database does some pretty flipped out stuff! You know when you use this site you have to initally click on the map to go to what ever particular County you want to search, right? So one would assume that if you are researching in County Limerick that the ONLY records you'd get back are ones actually in County Limerick....but sad to say this is NOT true. For example, click on Co Limerick and then do a search for Birth Records HANNIGAN, Catherine, 1845 +/- 4 years and it brings back 6 records - 3 of which are in County Cork!!!!! So what's up with that?? It's totally weird and they've obviously got some "bugs" to work out! Kathy Rhodes ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:32:13 -0400 From: Christina Hunt <filidh@carolina.rr.com> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Alumni Dublineses - GUBBINS To: LIMERICK <IRL-LIMERICK@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <2008319233213.588157@VALUED-3253602F> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >From Alumni Dublineses: GUBBINS, George Gough, Pen. (Mr. NOLAN), Oct. 4, 1824, aged 18; s. of George Gough, Generosus; b. Limerick. B.A. Vern. 1829 M.A. Vern. 1865 GUBBINS, Henry, Pen. (Mr. CLARKE), Nov. 1, 1802, aged 16; s. of James, Ingeniuus; b. Co. Limerick B.A. Aest. 1806. M.A. Vern 1820. GUBBINS, Henry, Pen. (Mr ELMES), Nov. 9, 1840, aged 21; s. of Henry, Clericus; b. Limerick. B.A. Vern. 1845 GUBBINS, Joseph, Pen. (Mr CASHIN, Limerick) May 24, 1718, aged 18; s. of James, Armiger; b. Knocklong, Co. Limerick. *The date is when they entered the college. A few Latin Terms: generosus -a -um [of noble birth , noble, well-bred]; armiger -gera -gerum [bearing arms]; as subst. , m. or f., [an armor bearer] agricola -ae m. [farmer]. mercator -oris m. [a merchant , wholesale trader] vern- Spring Also Pen. means pensioner. Source. Alumni Dublineses: A Register of the Students, Graduates, Professors, and Provosts of Trinity College, In the University of Dublin. Edited by the Late George Dames Burtchaell and Thomas Ulick Sadleir. 1924 [Source: FHL # 0990388] Christina ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-LIMERICK list administrator, send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-LIMERICK mailing list, send an email to IRL-LIMERICK@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-LIMERICK Digest, Vol 3, Issue 179 ********************************************