Finally caught a break with one of the SHANAHANs I am chasing and obtained the name of Ellen SHANAHAN's father's name and occupation (from her 1866 marriage record) Jeffrey SHANAHAN, carpenter So went immediately to the IFHF site and plugged Jeffrey SHANAHAN in (Ellen SHANAHAN was married in Thurles, Tipperary so started there) but when I came up with no births deaths or marriages in Co Tipp. Then went and did searches across ALL counties for ALL years and still came up with NADA. Not a single person by that name. WHAT ARE THE ODDS? Tried all the many variants of the given name as well-- Still NADA. SHANAHAN isn't the most prolific name in Ireland and while I know the combination of the surname SHANAHAN with a Norman French given name isn't quite so common, how on earth is it even mathematically possible that there are NO Jeffrey SHANAHANs for any time period in their entire database w/ millions of records? Also checked Griffiths Valuation - and not a single one there either? Any suggestions folks? If a fella's name was Jeffrey / Geoffrey what might his nickname in Irish have been? Anyone got any Jeffrey SHANAHANs who were transported/emmigrated to OZ? (Ellen SHANAHAN was known to have BROPHY cousins who immigrated to OZ, perhaps her father went too?) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The marriage record particulars: Ellen SHANAHAN (spinster, no occ given, living at Victualler's Lane Thurles) Father: Jeffrey SHANAHAN occupation carpenter married on 28 Jan 1866 Roman Catholic Chapel in Thurles, Co Tipperary to Timothy LUBY (bachelor, occupation Carpenter living at Pudding Lane Thurles) Father: Timothy Luby, occupation Surgeon Priest: John Ryan Witnesses: Bridget Murphy and William Ryan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kathy Rhodes Disgustedly, Doggedly still researching SHANAHAN and LUBY surnames in Co Limerick, Co Cork and Co Tipperary