Thank you Kathy, that was very instructive................. ----- Original Message ----- From: <littlehouseantiques@att.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com>; <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Ssearch Help - Patrick Hannigan > John, > > Next logical step to my way of thinking would be to find the marriage > record for the couple in the baptism record that you found. > > I'm going to share what I found because doing so does not violate > copyright (I didn't pay to see any records, I just used the search > capabilities that are in place on the site) and I think I've found a good > possibility for you to look into and explaining how I found this record > will also demonstrate (for anyone who is interested) how to carry out a > search when trying to find a particular marriage record on the IFHF web > site. > > What I did was search for the name Cornelius HANNIGAN (first across ALL of > Ireland just to see how many there were). Turns out there are only 5 > birth recs and 2 marriage recs and both Marriage recs are in County > Limerick. One marriage rec was from 1870 (too late for your fella) the > other from 1835 which might be just about right since the baptism record > you pulled was for 1838. Next, I determined which parish this marriage > took place in by painstakingly plugging each one in until the record > finally came up. Turns out the marriage is as follows: > > Marriage Hannigan Cornelius 1835 Co. Limerick Parish: DROMIN & ATHLACCA > > Next I pulled all marriages for Riordans in Co Limerick for 1835 - I > ignored the first name since it seems like you've got a gal who is > alternately called either Margaret or Mary. In the resulting list that > came up (23 names) I looked through and pulled any Mary or Margaret (or > Maria) and got this list: > > Marriage Rierdon Mary 1835 Co. Limerick > Marriage Riordan Margaret 1835 Co. Limerick > Marriage Riordan Mary Anne 1835 Co. Limerick > Marriage Riordan Maria 1835 Co. Limerick > Marriage Riardon Maria 1835 Co. Limerick > > Then I plugged each of them in to see if any of the above marriages took > place in the same parish as that of Cornelius Hannigan (DROMIN & ATHLACCA) > > Hit nada on the first three, but the last two were from DROMIN & ATHLACCA > > So the last two could possibly be the marriage record that you are looking > for (and actually I think the last two are the SAME record but that the > record has been entered twice (perhaps because surname was difficult to > read). > > I was reading on the IFHF site and it mentions that they do have duplicate > records; they advise that if you pay for two records and find that it is > the SAME record that they will REFUND your money if you just email them > and explain the problem. > > Oh, and another reason to think this may very well be YOUR couple is that > the RC Parish of Bulgaden where the baptism of Patrick Hannigan took place > is very close to DROMIN & ATHLACCA. > > Helpful links on where the above couple Cornelius Hannigan and Maria > Riordan/Riardan got married in Dromin are found at: > http://www.limerickdioceseheritage.org/DrominAthlacca.htm > Clicking on the links for the PRIESTS shows that the Parish Priest at > Dromin Church in 1835 at time of this marriage would have been James > O'Regan > (doesn't necessarily mean he performed the marriage, but he could have) > > Happy Hunting! > Kathy Rhodes > > ---- Original message from Hannigan Family Research > <research@hannigangenealogy.us>: ------ >> I did an IFHF search and need some help. Given the recent strict >> interpretation regarding discussing IFHF I wanted to repost this so it >> does not get lost. I think I have found my ancestor in the IFHF. I >> searched SEVEN different records before I found this one. >> >> Here is the short version of my family history in Ireland. According to >> the 1884 NYC death certificate Patrick Joseph Hannigan was born to >> Cornelius & Mary Hannigan. Where in County Limerick he was born is >> unknown as the only reference we have is based on the headstone on his >> grave at St. Raymond's Cemetery in NYC. >> >> I did a search and found this record. In fact, I looked at 7 different >> records before the names of the parents were even close. Now comes the >> fun part of trying to find out how to get more information about this >> family and to see if there is a possible link to the Patrick Hannigan >> that I am related to. How would I do able finding out more about >> Cornelius & Margaret and if they had other children? Is it possible to >> find out if Patk immigrated from Ireland to New York City? At his death >> in 1884 his death certificate and tomb stone indicated he was 44 years >> old. This would make him 46 if it is the correct person. >> >> Baptism Record: >> >> Patk Hannigan >> DOB: 06/03/1838 >> Father: Corn. Hannigan >> Mother: Margaret Riordan >> Parish/District: BULGADEN >> >> Sponsor1: Patk. Hannigan >> Sponsor2: Hanora Laffan >> >> I am not asking people to share their experience with IFHF. I am not >> asking people to share their records from IFHF. I am asking for >> *GENEALOGICAL HELP* regarding what I have found in a IFHF search. >> >> Any help on where to go from here is appreciated. >> >> John C Hannigan >> Jacksonville, Florida > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >