Hi there Robyn, I was interested in the book on Hospital, that you mentioned to Mike. By any chance would there be Leddin's or Condon's mentioned in there by any chance? Many thanks in advance, Michelle Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> To: <mike@obrienclan.com>; <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] O'Brien Research > Hello again Mike, > > I have a book of Hospital & the history of it's environs, so I have had a > quick look for you & this is what I have found: Book published 1995. > > A section that covers over 100 years ago from Guy's Postal directory 1889 > shows these O'Briens > > Local Quarrier for sand stone etc Millfarm, stone, Patrick O'Brien Prop. > > Principal farmers Hospital, O'Brien, Millfarm Lodge. > > Griffiths Valuation.. Hospital Parish. > > Ballycahill (ord s.40) > > Matthew O'Brien. > > Town of Hospital. > > Patrick O'Brien > > Barrysfarm. > > John O'Brien > > Castlefarm. > > John O'Brien > > These O'Briens were in the Townlands & Occupiers section. > > Let me know if I can be of anymore help to you. > > Robyn maiden name Bresnan > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <mike@obrienclan.com> > To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 10:24 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] O'Brien Research > > >> Here are mine again plus the witnesses. >> >> Baptism Records: >> William O'Brien 23/02/1824 >> Parish: Hospital >> Father: Kennedy O'Brien >> Mother: Margaret O'Donnell >> Denomination: Roman Catholic >> Sponsor 1: Thos. White >> Sponsor 2: Cath. O'Brien >> >> Catherine O'Brien 00/03/1829 >> Parish: Galbally & Aherlow >> Father: Thomas O'Brien >> Mother: Ellen Noonan >> Denomination: Roman Catholic >> Sponsor 1: Thomas Brien >> Sponsor 2: Margaret Brien >> >> Catherine O'Brien 26/02/1829 >> Parish: Murroe & Boher >> Father: Patrick O'Brien >> Mother: Cath. Malley >> Denomination: Roman Catholic >> Sponsor 1: William O'Brien >> Sponsor 2: Mgt. O'Brien >> >> Catherine O'Brien 05/04/1829 >> Parish: Kilteely >> Father: Thomas O'Brien >> Mother: Bridget O'Sullivan >> Denomination: Roman Catholic >> Sponsor 1: James Laffan >> Sponsor 2: Not recorded >> >> I purchased 40 Euro and used 30 before getting these four at 5 Euro each. >> The William could be mine based on his obituary stating he was aged 40 in >> Dec 1864. >> One of the Catherine's could be mine based on her obituary stating she >> was >> 67 on 5 Jan 1897. >> >> This is the closest I have come in years to finding my great grand >> parents, >> natives of Co Limerick. >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hello Michelle, On a quick look I can see the name Leddin & there is a Leddin in a phote. Will be in touch after I have had a better look as there is no index in this book. Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Leddin" <irishsoul@netspace.net.au> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] O'Brien Research > Hi there Robyn, > > I was interested in the book on Hospital, that you mentioned to Mike. By > any > chance would there be Leddin's or Condon's mentioned in there by any > chance? > > Many thanks in advance, > Michelle > Australia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> > To: <mike@obrienclan.com>; <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 5:26 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] O'Brien Research > > >> Hello again Mike, >> >> I have a book of Hospital & the history of it's environs, so I have had a >> quick look for you & this is what I have found: Book published 1995. >> >> A section that covers over 100 years ago from Guy's Postal directory >> 1889 >> shows these O'Briens >> >> Local Quarrier for sand stone etc Millfarm, stone, Patrick O'Brien >> Prop. >> >> Principal farmers Hospital, O'Brien, Millfarm Lodge. >> >> Griffiths Valuation.. Hospital Parish. >> >> Ballycahill (ord s.40) >> >> Matthew O'Brien. >> >> Town of Hospital. >> >> Patrick O'Brien >> >> Barrysfarm. >> >> John O'Brien >> >> Castlefarm. >> >> John O'Brien >> >> These O'Briens were in the Townlands & Occupiers section. >> >> Let me know if I can be of anymore help to you. >> >> Robyn maiden name Bresnan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <mike@obrienclan.com> >> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 10:24 AM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] O'Brien Research >> >> >>> Here are mine again plus the witnesses. >>> >>> Baptism Records: >>> William O'Brien 23/02/1824 >>> Parish: Hospital >>> Father: Kennedy O'Brien >>> Mother: Margaret O'Donnell >>> Denomination: Roman Catholic >>> Sponsor 1: Thos. White >>> Sponsor 2: Cath. O'Brien >>> >>> Catherine O'Brien 00/03/1829 >>> Parish: Galbally & Aherlow >>> Father: Thomas O'Brien >>> Mother: Ellen Noonan >>> Denomination: Roman Catholic >>> Sponsor 1: Thomas Brien >>> Sponsor 2: Margaret Brien >>> >>> Catherine O'Brien 26/02/1829 >>> Parish: Murroe & Boher >>> Father: Patrick O'Brien >>> Mother: Cath. Malley >>> Denomination: Roman Catholic >>> Sponsor 1: William O'Brien >>> Sponsor 2: Mgt. O'Brien >>> >>> Catherine O'Brien 05/04/1829 >>> Parish: Kilteely >>> Father: Thomas O'Brien >>> Mother: Bridget O'Sullivan >>> Denomination: Roman Catholic >>> Sponsor 1: James Laffan >>> Sponsor 2: Not recorded >>> >>> I purchased 40 Euro and used 30 before getting these four at 5 Euro >>> each. >>> The William could be mine based on his obituary stating he was aged 40 >>> in >>> Dec 1864. >>> One of the Catherine's could be mine based on her obituary stating she >>> was >>> 67 on 5 Jan 1897. >>> >>> This is the closest I have come in years to finding my great grand >>> parents, >>> natives of Co Limerick. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Michelle, I will fill you in to-morrow with what I have for you but have you looked at 'The Leddins of Ireland' on the web, someone has done a lot of work on this family. Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Leddin" <irishsoul@netspace.net.au> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] O'Brien Research > Hi there Robyn, > > I was interested in the book on Hospital, that you mentioned to Mike. By > any > chance would there be Leddin's or Condon's mentioned in there by any > chance? > > Many thanks in advance, > Michelle > Australia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> > To: <mike@obrienclan.com>; <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 5:26 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] O'Brien Research > > >> Hello again Mike, >> >> I have a book of Hospital & the history of it's environs, so I have had a >> quick look for you & this is what I have found: Book published 1995. >> >> A section that covers over 100 years ago from Guy's Postal directory >> 1889 >> shows these O'Briens >> >> Local Quarrier for sand stone etc Millfarm, stone, Patrick O'Brien >> Prop. >> >> Principal farmers Hospital, O'Brien, Millfarm Lodge. >> >> Griffiths Valuation.. Hospital Parish. >> >> Ballycahill (ord s.40) >> >> Matthew O'Brien. >> >> Town of Hospital. >> >> Patrick O'Brien >> >> Barrysfarm. >> >> John O'Brien >> >> Castlefarm. >> >> John O'Brien >> >> These O'Briens were in the Townlands & Occupiers section. >> >> Let me know if I can be of anymore help to you. >> >> Robyn maiden name Bresnan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <mike@obrienclan.com> >> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 10:24 AM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] O'Brien Research >> >> >>> Here are mine again plus the witnesses. >>> >>> Baptism Records: >>> William O'Brien 23/02/1824 >>> Parish: Hospital >>> Father: Kennedy O'Brien >>> Mother: Margaret O'Donnell >>> Denomination: Roman Catholic >>> Sponsor 1: Thos. White >>> Sponsor 2: Cath. O'Brien >>> >>> Catherine O'Brien 00/03/1829 >>> Parish: Galbally & Aherlow >>> Father: Thomas O'Brien >>> Mother: Ellen Noonan >>> Denomination: Roman Catholic >>> Sponsor 1: Thomas Brien >>> Sponsor 2: Margaret Brien >>> >>> Catherine O'Brien 26/02/1829 >>> Parish: Murroe & Boher >>> Father: Patrick O'Brien >>> Mother: Cath. Malley >>> Denomination: Roman Catholic >>> Sponsor 1: William O'Brien >>> Sponsor 2: Mgt. O'Brien >>> >>> Catherine O'Brien 05/04/1829 >>> Parish: Kilteely >>> Father: Thomas O'Brien >>> Mother: Bridget O'Sullivan >>> Denomination: Roman Catholic >>> Sponsor 1: James Laffan >>> Sponsor 2: Not recorded >>> >>> I purchased 40 Euro and used 30 before getting these four at 5 Euro >>> each. >>> The William could be mine based on his obituary stating he was aged 40 >>> in >>> Dec 1864. >>> One of the Catherine's could be mine based on her obituary stating she >>> was >>> 67 on 5 Jan 1897. >>> >>> This is the closest I have come in years to finding my great grand >>> parents, >>> natives of Co Limerick. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello again Michelle, I hope you have looked at the Leddin site I have previously mentioned, a lot of this is on the site. Leddin mentioned in regional Fairs & Factional fights. 1830 Paddy Leddin was the leader of The Three Year Olds who agreed on a truce between Maurice Fitzgerald the leader of The Four Year Olds. The possible reason for the name of these two rival groups suggests as the plausable reason an argument about the age of a bull at one of these fairs. It obviously didn't take much to hurt ones pride in those days. 1945 Agricultural show is a photo of Timmy Leddin. Griffiths Valuation BALLYCAHILL Timothy Leddin mentioned three times, had a reasonable bit of land along with Patrick Leddin. 1929 There is a N. Leddin who was one of the Hurling Champions (he was in a team) Sincerely, Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Leddin" <irishsoul@netspace.net.au> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] O'Brien Research > Hi there Robyn, > > I was interested in the book on Hospital, that you mentioned to Mike. By > any > chance would there be Leddin's or Condon's mentioned in there by any > chance? > > Many thanks in advance, > Michelle > Australia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> > To: <mike@obrienclan.com>; <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 5:26 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] O'Brien Research > > >> Hello again Mike, >> >> I have a book of Hospital & the history of it's environs, so I have had a >> quick look for you & this is what I have found: Book published 1995. >> >> A section that covers over 100 years ago from Guy's Postal directory >> 1889 >> shows these O'Briens >> >> Local Quarrier for sand stone etc Millfarm, stone, Patrick O'Brien >> Prop. >> >> Principal farmers Hospital, O'Brien, Millfarm Lodge. >> >> Griffiths Valuation.. Hospital Parish. >> >> Ballycahill (ord s.40) >> >> Matthew O'Brien. >> >> Town of Hospital. >> >> Patrick O'Brien >> >> Barrysfarm. >> >> John O'Brien >> >> Castlefarm. >> >> John O'Brien >> >> These O'Briens were in the Townlands & Occupiers section. >> >> Let me know if I can be of anymore help to you. >> >> Robyn maiden name Bresnan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <mike@obrienclan.com> >> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 10:24 AM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] O'Brien Research >> >> >>> Here are mine again plus the witnesses. >>> >>> Baptism Records: >>> William O'Brien 23/02/1824 >>> Parish: Hospital >>> Father: Kennedy O'Brien >>> Mother: Margaret O'Donnell >>> Denomination: Roman Catholic >>> Sponsor 1: Thos. White >>> Sponsor 2: Cath. O'Brien >>> >>> Catherine O'Brien 00/03/1829 >>> Parish: Galbally & Aherlow >>> Father: Thomas O'Brien >>> Mother: Ellen Noonan >>> Denomination: Roman Catholic >>> Sponsor 1: Thomas Brien >>> Sponsor 2: Margaret Brien >>> >>> Catherine O'Brien 26/02/1829 >>> Parish: Murroe & Boher >>> Father: Patrick O'Brien >>> Mother: Cath. Malley >>> Denomination: Roman Catholic >>> Sponsor 1: William O'Brien >>> Sponsor 2: Mgt. O'Brien >>> >>> Catherine O'Brien 05/04/1829 >>> Parish: Kilteely >>> Father: Thomas O'Brien >>> Mother: Bridget O'Sullivan >>> Denomination: Roman Catholic >>> Sponsor 1: James Laffan >>> Sponsor 2: Not recorded >>> >>> I purchased 40 Euro and used 30 before getting these four at 5 Euro >>> each. >>> The William could be mine based on his obituary stating he was aged 40 >>> in >>> Dec 1864. >>> One of the Catherine's could be mine based on her obituary stating she >>> was >>> 67 on 5 Jan 1897. >>> >>> This is the closest I have come in years to finding my great grand >>> parents, >>> natives of Co Limerick. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Here is a bit more on the three year olds and four year olds and others. I put this together recently for the newsletter of our local Irish group. >From these colourful people we descend! Beryl Faction Fighting was part of the norm at Tipperary Fairs. This strange social phenomenon started around 1805. Factions were armies of country people, often hundreds, armed with sticks and stones. The sticks, fashioned from either holly, oak, ash or blackthorn, were carefully prepared and seasoned by greasing with butter and stored for a period in open chimney flues. Sometimes the head of the stick was hollowed out and filled with molten lead. The different Factions had colourful names such as The Caravats , Shanavests , Three Year Olds, Four Year Olds, Black Hens, Magpies, Reaskawallaghs , Oultachs, etc. These pre arranged fights were between families, clans, namesakes, baronies or parishes, and the cause of such a fight might be some insult, real or imagined. (Information from the Cappawhite web page) The cause of the dispute between the three-year-olds and four-year-olds was that there existed a bull on the borders of two parishes, which the people of one parish said was 3 years old at a certain time while the people of the other parish said he was 3 years old. So they fought and battered and killed each other at fairs and markets, and on Sundays and holidays after mass, according to the approved system of faction fights. ('New York Times', 25 July, 1880) Beryl O'Gorman Greensborough Victoria Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] O'Brien Research > Hello again Michelle, > > I hope you have looked at the Leddin site I have previously mentioned, a > lot of this is on the site.