Kathy - thank you for your help. I am frustrated with the IFHF in looking at records. It gets very costly very quickly as other will attest to. I appreciate the help in tracking down these records. My next step will be to get the specific record and contact the parish priest to see if he can provide additional help. Has anyone on the list been successful in a parish priest providing copies of records? Are they just recorded in a logbook register or are they actual certificates that provide additional information? I assume that contacting the parish priest at Bulgaden would be a logical step to see if there were other siblings. Thanks again for the help. John Hannigan Florida littlehouseantiques@att.net wrote: > John, > > Next logical step to my way of thinking would be to find the marriage > record for the couple in the baptism record that you found. > > I'm going to share what I found because doing so does not violate > copyright (I didn't pay to see any records, I just used the search > capabilities that are in place on the site) and I think I've found a > good possibility for you to look into and explaining how I found this > record will also demonstrate (for anyone who is interested) how to > carry out a search when trying to find a particular marriage record on > the IFHF web site. > > What I did was search for the name Cornelius HANNIGAN (first across > ALL of Ireland just to see how many there were). Turns out there are > only 5 birth recs and 2 marriage recs and both Marriage recs are in > County Limerick. One marriage rec was from 1870 (too late for your > fella) the other from 1835 which might be just about right since the > baptism record you pulled was for 1838. Next, I determined which > parish this marriage took place in by painstakingly plugging each one > in until the record finally came up. Turns out the marriage is as > follows: > > Marriage Hannigan Cornelius 1835 Co. Limerick Parish: DROMIN & ATHLACCA > > Next I pulled all marriages for Riordans in Co Limerick for 1835 - I > ignored the first name since it seems like you've got a gal who is > alternately called either Margaret or Mary. In the resulting list > that came up (23 names) I looked through and pulled any Mary or > Margaret (or Maria) and got this list: > > Marriage Rierdon Mary 1835 Co. Limerick > Marriage Riordan Margaret 1835 Co. Limerick > Marriage Riordan Mary Anne 1835 Co. Limerick > Marriage Riordan Maria 1835 Co. Limerick > Marriage Riardon Maria 1835 Co. Limerick > > Then I plugged each of them in to see if any of the above marriages > took place in the same parish as that of Cornelius Hannigan (DROMIN & > ATHLACCA) > > Hit nada on the first three, but the last two were from DROMIN & ATHLACCA > > So the last two could possibly be the marriage record that you are > looking for (and actually I think the last two are the SAME record but > that the record has been entered twice (perhaps because surname was > difficult to read). > > I was reading on the IFHF site and it mentions that they do have > duplicate records; they advise that if you pay for two records and > find that it is the SAME record that they will REFUND your money if > you just email them and explain the problem. > > Oh, and another reason to think this may very well be YOUR couple is > that the RC Parish of Bulgaden where the baptism of Patrick Hannigan > took place is very close to DROMIN & ATHLACCA. > > Helpful links on where the above couple Cornelius Hannigan and Maria > Riordan/Riardan got married in Dromin are found at: > http://www.limerickdioceseheritage.org/DrominAthlacca.htm > Clicking on the links for the PRIESTS shows that the Parish Priest at > Dromin Church in 1835 at time of this marriage would have been James > O'Regan > (doesn't necessarily mean he performed the marriage, but he could have) > > Happy Hunting! > Kathy Rhodes > > ---- Original message from Hannigan Family Research > <research@hannigangenealogy.us>: ------ > > I did an IFHF search and need some help. Given the recent strict > > interpretation regarding discussing IFHF I wanted to repost this so it > > does not get lost. I think I have found my ancestor in the IFHF. I > > searched SEVEN different records before I found this one. > > > > Here is the short version of my family history in Ireland. According to > > the 1884 NYC death certificate Patrick Joseph Hannigan was born to > > Cornelius & Mary Hannigan. Where in County Limerick he was born is > > unknown as the only reference we have is based on the headstone on his > > grave at St. Raymond's Cemetery in NYC. > > > > I did a search and found this record. In fact, I looked at 7 different > > records before the names of the parents were even close. Now comes the > > fun part of trying to find out how to get mo re information about this > > family and to see if there is a possible link to the Patrick Hannigan > > that I am related to. How would I do able finding out more about > > Cornelius & Margaret and if they had other children? Is it possible to > > find out if Patk immigrated from Ireland to New York City? At his death > > in 1884 his death certificate and tomb stone indicated he was 44 years > > old. This would make him 46 if it is the correct person. > > > > Baptism Record: > > > > Patk Hannigan > > DOB: 06/03/1838 > > Father: Corn. Hannigan > > Mother: Margaret Riordan > > Parish/District: BULGADEN > > > > Sponsor1: Patk. Hannigan > > Sponsor2: Hanora Laffan > > > > I am not asking people to share their experience with IFHF. I am not > > asking people to share their records from IFHF. I am asking for > > *GENEALOGICAL HELP* regarding what I have found in a IFHF search. > > > > Any help on where to go from here is appreciated. > > > > John C Hannigan > > Jacksonville, Florida