I have found that it was NOT uncommon for a baptism or birth to be unregistered. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Butler" <magsbutler@mrnoisy.plus.com> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] IFHF and missing records etc > Hi Maureen, > I was interested to read what you said re.'Heritage centre...has most of > her > siblings, so I can't figure out why not her', and that you think she may > have had a different first name. > I have similar puzzle, all of dozen siblings of my ancestor are to be > found > in heritage centre/parish records, but not my g-grandfather's baptism. It > was suggested to me that if he was ill as a new born baby, the priest may > have come to the house (half way up a mountain!) and baptised the baby, > but > not entered the details in the registers. > Therefore the heritage centre wouldn't have the records either. The > centres > are only as good as the material , and the staff, they work with to start > with - and as people have said, mistakes can and do happen with the > transcriptions. > Cheers > Mags > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger-Maureen Maloney" <moemaloney@verizon.net> > To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 3:23 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Irish Family History Foundation and J.J. Woods > > >> Hi Jan....glad to know you also wrote to Ms. Mitchell. I told her >> basically the >> same thing that you did regarding their fees. I have been searching for >> my >> grandmother from Cavan for years without success. I do know that the >> Heritage >> Center in Cavan has most of her siblings, so I can't figure why not >> her. I am beginning >> to think that she had a different first name than we knew her by. I >> told Ms. Mitchell >> if they could devise a way to searh for children of a certain set of >> parents, that would >> be a great help for most of us. >> >> Let's all hope that in time these databases will be available free to >> search and then we can >> either pay a membership fee or the cost of the document. I have no >> problem with that, but >> this idea of paying for each search is nonsense, especially with the >> present cost of our devalued >> dollar. >> >> Hope you and the family are doing well. It has been a bit since we >> corresponded!! >> >> Maureen >> >> >> >> At 03:30 PM 3/15/2008, you wrote: >>>Thank you to "J.J.Woods" for sharing the informaton about Olivia >>>Mitchell. >>>I >>>have used the email address he so graciously shared to thank Olivia for >>>her >>>integrity and ethics. I did say I would be willing to pay a fair annual >>>membership to help defray the cost of keeping the web site running. It >>>would >>>have to be fair, though. We could then access whatever records we were >>>interested in. >>> >>>It is my understanding that transcribing the records was part of a >>>training/make work program. The workers had no expertise in reading >>>records >>>or in genealogy. I have used the Mallow Heritage Center several times >>>over >>>the past few years and have then checked some records when I was in >>>Ireland >>>at the National Library. I have found MANY errors in transcription. >>>Sometimes the errors are inconsequential but other times they are not. As >>>one example, I was given the name Roderick Roche as the oldest son. So >>>that >>>meant I had to look for a paternal grandfather with that name. I knew >>>that >>>name did not run in my family so I ended my search. Last year, when I was >>>in >>>Ireland, I checked this record myself on the films at the National >>>Library. >>>The first name was not Roderick, but Garrett. WOW! That was exactly the >>>name >>>I had been looking for. >>> >>>Jan >>> >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> -- >> This email has been verified as Virus free. >> Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1330 - Release Date: >> 15/03/2008 14:36 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sacramental records, especially pre 1864 can be missing but post 1864, Civil registration of births carried a penalty if not done. Initially, the native Irish were slow to follow so when they did, IF there was a Baptism record it could have a date that was a year or more before the actual civil birth date. The child did not have to accompany the person who reported the birth so no one was the worse for not realizing the duplicity :-) Marriages and deaths did not carry a penalty for non registration post 1864

Hi listers Have been reading with interest some of the remarks not only of this list and wondered if? Was there a certain year from which registrations became compulsory as I know for a fact that occurred in New Zealand. My original ancestor had three daughters 2 of which I have all the details via family records but no mention of them anywhere until they married. Elaine