I am looking for John O'Sullivan Meehan. On the birth records of his children, he is listed as a grocer. Thank you so much, Geralyn, for answering, it has been some time since I heard from you.If I do find a source for lists, I will let you know. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geralyn Barry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] business in Ballingarry Marie, if you find a source for lists of business in Ballingarry, would you please tell the list? Are you looking for a particular type of business or a particular surname, or are you just generally interested in what kinds of businesses were there? Directories would be the usual source to consult, but it looks like the village of Ballingarry was a bit too small to be included until the 1880s, when coverage in directories began to expand to include smaller places. I checked the following directories, which are on Irish Origins (subscription website, indexed and with images available): Henry & Coughlan's General Directory of Cork & Munster, 1867 - Ballingarry not listed [only Newcastle, Rathkeale and Limerick City] Slater's Royal National and Commerical Directory of Ireland, 1870 - Ballingarry not listed Slater's Royal National Commercial Directory of Ireland, 1881 - Ballingarry not listed Bassett’s Limerick City and County, and the Principal Towns in the Counties Clare, Tipperary, and Kerry, Directory, 1881 - Ballingarry not listed Slater's Royal National Directory of Ireland, 1894 - Ballingarry has a brief listing, with a very small number of people in the area: 12 listings under "Private Residents" [only the clergy and gentry of the area] 9 listings under "Commercial", all but one listed simply as "shopkeeper" and the other was physician Henry G Moloney M.D. 5 listings under "Farmers" - John Bennett (Ballinaha), Michael Croke (Frankfort), William Hedderman (Ballygrennan), James Irwin (Frankfort), Thomas McDonnell (Fortwilliam) There is no way to tell what the businesses were from the directory listing - they all simply say "shopkeeper". They were Thomas Burke, John Butler, Julia Guinea, Edward Hartnett, Andrew Nolan, Michael O'Connell, Michael Quaid and Edmond Sheehy. Edmond Sheehy was also listed as postmaster, and Rev. Mortimer M'Coy and Rev. Stephen Culhane as Catholic curates under Rev. Timothy Shanahan PP. Marie and I have corresponded before, so I know she has a copy of Christy Kerins' book, which includes some Ballingarry records. Among them are listings for Ballingarry in Francis Guy's 1886 Postal Directory of Munster (p. 156) and in Slater's Commercial Directory, County Limerick, 1894 (p. 159-160) - the same directory I listed above. But of course, all these directories are later than you want, Marie. One other possibility is to look at births registered in the area (civil registration began 1864). The name, address and occupation of the father of the child appears in civil birth records, and that might at least give you some idea of occupations in Ballingarry. Ballingarry births would have been registered in Croom SRD and Castletown RD, along with births from the rest of the area. In the 1860s, there were usually only 5 or 6 pages at most of births registered in each volume for Croom SRD, Castletown RD (with 4 volumes per year and 10 birth records per page). I happen to have some of these that I copied from microfilms at the Family History Library. For example: FHL 0101084 - Births v. 5 1864 Most fathers were farmers or laborers. Those who weren't: Patrick Coughlan (Ballingarry) was a National Teacher, Stephen McCormick (Ballingarry) was a shopkeeper, Michael Fitzgerald (Ballyagran - not Ballingarry) was a mason, Patrick Barry (Knight Street, Ballingarry) was a miller, Edward Carroll (Ballyagran - not Ballingarry) was a shopkeeper, James Cathorall or Catharall (Ballingarry) was a saddler. FHL 101089 - Births v. 10 1864 Again, most fathers were farmers or laborers, with a few shopkeepers. Others with more specific occupations: Jeremiah O'Leary (Ballingarry) was a shoemaker, John Airey (Ballingarry) was a gunsmith, John Grady (Ballingarry) was a tailor, Charles Ahern (Mount Buda - just south of Ballingarry village, I think) was a cooper, Jeremiah Dineen (Ballingarry) was a carpenter, John Connell a shoemaker was living in London but his wife gave birth to their child in Ballingarry, David Keane (Castletown Conyers) and James Lenihan (Ballingarry) were grocers, and John Supple (Ballingarry) was a "Dealer". You could go through the films for the rest of the 1860's to see what other occupations appear. There were certainly at least two mills (for milling grain) in the area. And there was the Workshouse, which would have employed a few people, and the Petty Sessions and Bridewell and Police Barracks... But as to a listing of businesses, I'm afraid I don't know where to find one for that time period. Again, please tell us if you find a source. Thanks. Geralyn Wood Barry in Oregon, USA On 1/8/2011 8:41 AM, Marie Goforth-Allen wrote: > I am looking for a list of businesses that were in Ballingarry during the > 1860-1870 time period. > Please give me some suggestions of where to look. > > Thank you in advance, > Marie Goforth-Allen > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3369 - Release Date: 01/09/11 07:34:00