Please add to that the fact the person listening is hard of hearing. I can attest to the frequency with which I have to query spelling for indeed, B, T, D and G plus a few others are very difficult to discern and this is the case even with hearing aid in place at times. Suzanne

I came across this interesting website that has indexed newspaper articles of missing Irish travellers to America *From October 1831 through October 1921, the Boston Pilot newspaper printed a “Missing Friends” column with advertisements from people looking for “lost” friends and relatives who had emigrated from Ireland to the United States. This extraordinary collection of 39,875 records is available here as a searchable online database, which contains a text record for each ad that appeared in the Pilot.* http://infowanted.bc.edu/ Sharon -- Limerick's Life <http://www.limerickslife.com> Limerick's Life Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/limerickslife>

Wow, that's a good tool! Thanks for posting it Sharon. Jan, nyc. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Slater <sharon.o.slater@gmail.com> Sender: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:10:51 To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Index to missing Irish in America I came across this interesting website that has indexed newspaper articles of missing Irish travellers to America *From October 1831 through October 1921, the Boston Pilot newspaper printed a “Missing Friends” column with advertisements from people looking for “lost” friends and relatives who had emigrated from Ireland to the United States. This extraordinary collection of 39,875 records is available here as a searchable online database, which contains a text record for each ad that appeared in the Pilot.* http://infowanted.bc.edu/ Sharon -- Limerick's Life <http://www.limerickslife.com> Limerick's Life Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/limerickslife> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Colleen, Murroe is in the diocese of Cashel & Emly. You might add the monks at Glenstal Abbey on your list as they have some records. If your time is limited, the quickest and least expensive way to get your information is to go to Tipperary Family History Research in the Excel Center in Tipperary Town. You can e-mail them ahead of your trip. The records for Murroe begin 1814/5, so if you believe that waht you need predates that, chances are you might not be able to pick them up. I would alo go through Pat Connors website at http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/LIM/index.htm You might be able to pick up the family in the Tithes. One of the branches of my family is related to the Ryans of Murroe, but I don't know how yet. There are connections into Doon and into Solohead parish. Janet On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 3:12 AM, Colleen Perfect <c.perfect@msn.com> wrote: > Greetings, > > I am from Saint Paul, MN in the USA and I will be visiting Murroe Ireland in September of this year. All my ancestors are from Ireland and I'm trying to locate some history on my great-grandfather who was from Murroe. His name was Patrick Ryan and he was born in the early 1800’s. He married Johanna Byrne and later came to America. I know that is not much information to start with, however, I would be most grateful if you could tell me who to contact to begin my search. I look forward to hearing from you. > > Thank you and God bless you, > Mrs. Colleen Ryan Perfect > c.perfect@msn.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, you should definately look online 1st. Sites such as irishgenealogy, rootsireland and LDS. The County with the most Ryans is Tipperary so he just might have come from near the border of Limerick/Tipp. You should also look online for the ship they may have sailed on. Someone local might point you toward Applotment books as I'm not sure of a site for those. failteromhat + libraryireland are good sites. If you're looking for civil certs ( Births, Deaths+Marriages) you can get them online or in Dublin or Roscommon, from 1864 onwards for RCs. If you are heading to Dublin, the National Archives in Bishop st, the National Library in Kildare st. + the City Library in Pearce st. hold lots of info. Maggie the Dub On 28 Mar 2012, at 03:12, "Colleen Perfect" <c.perfect@msn.com> wrote: Greetings, I am from Saint Paul, MN in the USA and I will be visiting Murroe Ireland in September of this year. All my ancestors are from Ireland and I'm trying to locate some history on my great-grandfather who was from Murroe. His name was Patrick Ryan and he was born in the early 1800’s. He married Johanna Byrne and later came to America. I know that is not much information to start with, however, I would be most grateful if you could tell me who to contact to begin my search. I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you and God bless you, Mrs. Colleen Ryan Perfect c.perfect@msn.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>It's been many years since I searched this site but, I recall there being many Co. Clare & Co. Limerick names. > > >Good luck to all searching! > > >Judie Mason >Chicago

Hi, Maggie, I don't want to put you off as I am hoping that this is an isolated incident. I have made contact with relatives in Kilkenny and although I have never been there I am sure it is probably a nice place. The reason for the request was that they didn't hold the microfilms on site but had access to them at the local library. Obviously the person that I dealt with felt that it was appropriate to charge a research fee to check the records. I understand that it is a question of proof and while I have information that supports my knowledge of the family the IFHF are not privy to this information. It is a catch 22 situation which would have been resolved if you were able to obtain a copy of the original page and not just a transcription. As you may be able to tell as well as having several ancestors from Ireland I also have Cornish ancestors. For people researching in Cornwall, there is a website where all of the parish registers are slowly being transcribed and are then available on line free of charge. In addition to this copies of the actual registers are being made available though the LDS on their family search site. I have queried a couple of the records and have had a very good response. In the end it is a question of expectations. Regards, Christine -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Doyle Sent: Tuesday, 27 March 2012 10:28 p.m. To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] mis-transcribed data Yes I think it's up to the individual centres to answer each query. Doesn't sound good for Kilkenny. I wonder if they realise the impact on tourism? I live in Dublin, I was planning a weekend in Kilkenny. I have now changed that to Kerry after Reading your mail. No-one wants to head into unfriendly people. Maggie the Dub On 26 Mar 2012, at 23:09, "Christine Tregonning" <CJTregonning@xtra.co.nz> wrote: Unfortunately I had a very negative response to my query regarding my Kilkenny ancestors. Perhaps it depends on which county the records you are querying are from. The surname of my ancestors is by no means common and the two births post registration were correctly recorded while the mother's maiden name on all five baptism was incorrect. As it was unlikely that the surname was mis-heard five times over a period of ten years, the most likely explanation was that when transcribing the records a capital 'D' was confused with a capital 'T'. The person that I corresponded with said that she would only check the records if I agreed to pay a minimum of 30 Euros which she called a small fee. Of course it could have ended up much higher than this and as I already knew the correct surname I did not bother going any further with this. Regards, Christine

Try Fr. Ryan, the Abbington (Murroe) parish priest. He is great! In a message dated 3/27/2012 10:12:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, c.perfect@msn.com writes: Greetings, I am from Saint Paul, MN in the USA and I will be visiting Murroe Ireland in September of this year. All my ancestors are from Ireland and I'm trying to locate some history on my great-grandfather who was from Murroe. His name was Patrick Ryan and he was born in the early 1800’s. He married Johanna Byrne and later came to America. I know that is not much information to start with, however, I would be most grateful if you could tell me who to contact to begin my search. I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you and God bless you, Mrs. Colleen Ryan Perfect c.perfect@msn.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings, I am from Saint Paul, MN in the USA and I will be visiting Murroe Ireland in September of this year. All my ancestors are from Ireland and I'm trying to locate some history on my great-grandfather who was from Murroe. His name was Patrick Ryan and he was born in the early 1800’s. He married Johanna Byrne and later came to America. I know that is not much information to start with, however, I would be most grateful if you could tell me who to contact to begin my search. I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you and God bless you, Mrs. Colleen Ryan Perfect c.perfect@msn.com

Thank you for your help, much appreciated. Robyn -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Little.House.Antiques Sent: Monday, 26 March 2012 11:42 PM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Byrne family of Limerick Hi Les, Your Thomas Byrne is buried in Mount Saint Lawrence Cemetery. See http://www.limerickcity.ie/Archives/MountStLawrenceBurialGroundRegisters1855 -2008/ He's in the 1st book: http://www.limerick.ie/Archives/LCDA/StLaurenceRegistry/Book1/March1855toNov ember1942-part01.djvu page 17 of 28 Data as follows: Sexton's Number: 693 Burial Date: 28 Jan 1860 Lat: 130 Long: Ra Name: Thomas ByrneS Age: 34 Residence: Cecil Street. ----- Original Message ----- From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 2:19:10 AM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Byrne family of Limerick Hello Listers, I have found in the Limerick Chronicle Newspapers a death notice of a Thomas Byrne aged 33years on the 1.2.1860 of 35 Cecil Street Upper, Limerick, late of Cratloe & Caherelly, son of Mr John Byrne, Cecil Street. Where would he be buried in this area? Also his daughter Dora Byrne aged 8 years died 30.10.1861...no mother mentioned only father & grandfather. The mother was Eliza Bennett, I cannot find her death & also wondered if anyone knew when John Byrne died as he was alive at the death of his son & granddaughter. John was a merchant. Any help greatly appreciated. Robyn in Oz ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

*Hi Beryl,* * * *I thought I'd let you know that I found a few dozen Gorman entries in the Mount St. Lawrence Cemetery Rcds....* * * http://www.limerick.ie/digitalarchives/mountstlawrenceburialregisterbookone1855-1899/ *Best wishes,* * * *Patti * *Leonard, MIchigan*

Christine, Since we have some subbers in common on our lists, I have a quick comment on old e-mail accounts. PLEASE do not just walk away from them. If at all possible, before you leave an account, delete all the people on the address list and close the account. It is a lot of the old accounts that still have addresses and are still technically open but not used that are so susceptible to hacking. Sweep those old accounts clean please and close them. It is rare that you can't do that, but it can happen. Janet On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Christina Finn Hunt <chrisnina@gmail.com> wrote: > I get emails all the time requesting a change of address. The list > admin is really here for problems > such as when your email provider has changed their name and you can't > fix that. Normally, > list members can change their own address. It involves unsubscribing > and resubscribing. > > Here is the method: > Assuming you are on this (or any list) with an email > address that is still active, send an unsubscribe email per the > instructions at the bottom of this email. Then send a new email *From* > your NEW email address to subscribe. The requests have to be sent > *from* the address to be subbed or unsubbed. > > The list address for subbing and unsubscribing is the name of the list > with -request@rootsweb.com > So. for instance irl-tipperary-request@rootsweb.com   This is a > computer address. It only understands the commands  Subscribe and > Unsubscribe. > Be sure to spell subscribe correctly. I have seen "unscribe" sent by > accident. The computer doesn't understand spelling errors. > > If you can't access your old email you normally don't need to worry. > If the address is closed down, you will "bounce off" > the list after several email bounces. So, the main thing is just to > resubscribe. > Does that make sense? > > I suggest everyone should bookmark the list info page. There you can > get addresses quickly for subscribing to or leaving any list. > This is for Ireland: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/IRL/ > > If you can't do this for computer or health reasons, drop me a line > and I can fix it for you. > Thanks, > Christina > List admin > chrisnina@gmail.com > =============================== > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don't be too certain it wasn't the original document recorder that misheard the verbally reporting informant all five times. There's a very good reason that the soundex groups T& D together -- Listeners often mishear either consonant for the other, especially if the better educated "English speaking" official was taking the verbal report from a rural less educated Irish farmer. My example -- I have found the surname Dator as Tator in both a census and city directory in the late 1800s in Mew York City -- and they were born in NYC so it wasn't a problem of a foreign accent. From: "Christine Tregonning"<CJTregonning@xtra.co.nz> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] mis-transcribed data As it was unlikely that the surname was mis-heard five times over a period of ten years, the most likely explanation was that when transcribing the records a capital 'D' was confused with a capital 'T'.

I get emails all the time requesting a change of address. The list admin is really here for problems such as when your email provider has changed their name and you can't fix that. Normally, list members can change their own address. It involves unsubscribing and resubscribing. Here is the method: Assuming you are on this (or any list) with an email address that is still active, send an unsubscribe email per the instructions at the bottom of this email. Then send a new email *From* your NEW email address to subscribe. The requests have to be sent *from* the address to be subbed or unsubbed. The list address for subbing and unsubscribing is the name of the list with -request@rootsweb.com So. for instance irl-tipperary-request@rootsweb.com This is a computer address. It only understands the commands Subscribe and Unsubscribe. Be sure to spell subscribe correctly. I have seen "unscribe" sent by accident. The computer doesn't understand spelling errors. If you can't access your old email you normally don't need to worry. If the address is closed down, you will "bounce off" the list after several email bounces. So, the main thing is just to resubscribe. Does that make sense? I suggest everyone should bookmark the list info page. There you can get addresses quickly for subscribing to or leaving any list. This is for Ireland: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/IRL/ If you can't do this for computer or health reasons, drop me a line and I can fix it for you. Thanks, Christina List admin chrisnina@gmail.com ===============================

Unfortunately I had a very negative response to my query regarding my Kilkenny ancestors. Perhaps it depends on which county the records you are querying are from. The surname of my ancestors is by no means common and the two births post registration were correctly recorded while the mother's maiden name on all five baptism was incorrect. As it was unlikely that the surname was mis-heard five times over a period of ten years, the most likely explanation was that when transcribing the records a capital 'D' was confused with a capital 'T'. The person that I corresponded with said that she would only check the records if I agreed to pay a minimum of 30 Euros which she called a small fee. Of course it could have ended up much higher than this and as I already knew the correct surname I did not bother going any further with this. Regards, Christine -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Little.House.Antiques Sent: Tuesday, 27 March 2012 2:32 a.m. To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] IRL-LIMERICK Digest, Vol 7, Issue 60 I've run across miss transcribed data too! The good news is that the rootsireland.ie site when informed of the errors actually went in and corrected them! One thing to particularly watch out for are the inconsistencies between counties w/ regard to the surname VARIANTS. It's a wonderful feature; one can pop in the surname SHANAHAN and it will search for shaNNahan, etc. What I found out however, was that not ALL counties have ALL the same surname variants. For example one county might search for my surname w/ the double "N" spelling, but another county might not...which means of course that when searching you have to actually type in the surname w/ the double "N" in that county or you will miss those records. The good thing is that the site does welcome feedback -- so if you find that your surname variants differ from county to county, drop them a line and point it out. They will correct it and then searching becomes not just easier for YOU but for everyone else.

Yes I think it's up to the individual centres to answer each query. Doesn't sound good for Kilkenny. I wonder if they realise the impact on tourism? I live in Dublin, I was planning a weekend in Kilkenny. I have now changed that to Kerry after Reading your mail. No-one wants to head into unfriendly people. Maggie the Dub On 26 Mar 2012, at 23:09, "Christine Tregonning" <CJTregonning@xtra.co.nz> wrote: Unfortunately I had a very negative response to my query regarding my Kilkenny ancestors. Perhaps it depends on which county the records you are querying are from. The surname of my ancestors is by no means common and the two births post registration were correctly recorded while the mother's maiden name on all five baptism was incorrect. As it was unlikely that the surname was mis-heard five times over a period of ten years, the most likely explanation was that when transcribing the records a capital 'D' was confused with a capital 'T'. The person that I corresponded with said that she would only check the records if I agreed to pay a minimum of 30 Euros which she called a small fee. Of course it could have ended up much higher than this and as I already knew the correct surname I did not bother going any further with this. Regards, Christine -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Little.House.Antiques Sent: Tuesday, 27 March 2012 2:32 a.m. To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] IRL-LIMERICK Digest, Vol 7, Issue 60 I've run across miss transcribed data too! The good news is that the rootsireland.ie site when informed of the errors actually went in and corrected them! One thing to particularly watch out for are the inconsistencies between counties w/ regard to the surname VARIANTS. It's a wonderful feature; one can pop in the surname SHANAHAN and it will search for shaNNahan, etc. What I found out however, was that not ALL counties have ALL the same surname variants. For example one county might search for my surname w/ the double "N" spelling, but another county might not...which means of course that when searching you have to actually type in the surname w/ the double "N" in that county or you will miss those records. The good thing is that the site does welcome feedback -- so if you find that your surname variants differ from county to county, drop them a line and point it out. They will correct it and then searching becomes not just easier for YOU but for everyone else. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My grandmothers date of birth was mistrancribed by 60 years 1821 instead of 1881 and after requesting a few times to have it changed Limerick Genealogy credited me with the new record properly updated Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Tregonning" <CJTregonning@xtra.co.nz> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] mis-transcribed data > Unfortunately I had a very negative response to my query regarding my > Kilkenny ancestors. Perhaps it depends on which county the records you > are > querying are from. The surname of my ancestors is by no means common and > the two births post registration were correctly recorded while the > mother's > maiden name on all five baptism was incorrect. As it was unlikely that > the > surname was mis-heard five times over a period of ten years, the most > likely > explanation was that when transcribing the records a capital 'D' was > confused with a capital 'T'. > > The person that I corresponded with said that she would only check the > records if I agreed to pay a minimum of 30 Euros which she called a small > fee. Of course it could have ended up much higher than this and as I > already knew the correct surname I did not bother going any further with > this. > > Regards, > > Christine > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Little.House.Antiques > Sent: Tuesday, 27 March 2012 2:32 a.m. > To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] IRL-LIMERICK Digest, Vol 7, Issue 60 > > I've run across miss transcribed data too! The good news is that the > rootsireland.ie site when informed of the errors actually went in and > corrected them! > > > One thing to particularly watch out for are the inconsistencies between > counties w/ regard to the surname VARIANTS. > It's a wonderful feature; one can pop in the surname SHANAHAN and it will > search for shaNNahan, etc. What I found out however, was that not ALL > counties have ALL the same surname variants. > For example one county might search for my surname w/ the double "N" > spelling, but another county might not...which means of course that when > searching you have to actually type in the surname w/ the double "N" in > that > county or you will miss those records. > > > The good thing is that the site does welcome feedback -- so if you find > that > your surname variants differ from county to county, drop them a line and > point it out. They will correct it and then searching becomes not just > easier for YOU but for everyone else. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I do hope they actually start putting up the scanned records as per Scotlands People (I was very lucky to have some Scottish ancestors so know the wealth of information on that site). I done correctly, as Scotlands People have done then I won't mind paying for searches and records, but what is "too much"? As this is just a hobby for most of us and as such it's the first thing to go on the back burner when the bills come in. Sharon On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 3:59 PM, M McAlonie <mmcalonie@msn.com> wrote: > > Sounds like they are trying to emulate the pay structure of the Scotlands > People website which I have enjoyed using and found very helpful in > tracking Scottish individuals . I have not tried to the new IFHF search > pay structure yet and I probably wont. That being said at Scotlands > people they tell you how many hits under your search parameters before > asking you if you want to purchase that first page of results, which also > gives you the parish/ location of the record in the list of hits. Also at > Scotlands people you are buying the actual record image, not a questionable > transcription of the record transcribed by an unemployed person with no > training or background in historical records/ data transcription. Go to > that site and look at the 'about our records / charges' tab to compare the > fees. To buy and actual record image it only costs $2.25 US. > > I just don't think the quality of the two sites is comparable when it > comes to what you get for what you pay. Perhaps if the Irish records you > were purchasing were actual images of the original entry and the search > features were uniform across all 26 counties I would not have issue with > the new pay structure. > > I think the search loop hole mentioned below in a previous post is > probably a programming glitch and would be fixed now after becoming evident. > > As people have said this IFHF site is a great alternative to a trip to > Ireland, a paid researcher at PRONI or NLI, or commissioning a county > heritage center to do a report. I have found the index to be useful and > reasonably accurate in locating existing records through searching by > process of elimination as some have mentioned, narrowing down your results > to locate a search subject by name, parents names, and year and parish. > That only leaves out actual date and witnesses in the case of some records. > The people who own the site probably see this functionality as giving away > their service. I cant say as I blame them but wasn't this indexing paid > for by the Irish government? > > I thought the previous pay structure was reasonable. Without an increase > in functionality or data quality such as providing images, I cant see > myself using the site much in the future. > > Michael > > > -- Limerick's Life <http://www.limerickslife.com> Limerick's Life Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/limerickslife>

Hello Listers, I have found in the Limerick Chronicle Newspapers a death notice of a Thomas Byrne aged 33years on the 1.2.1860 of 35 Cecil Street Upper, Limerick, late of Cratloe & Caherelly, son of Mr John Byrne, Cecil Street. Where would he be buried in this area? Also his daughter Dora Byrne aged 8 years died 30.10.1861...no mother mentioned only father & grandfather. The mother was Eliza Bennett, I cannot find her death & also wondered if anyone knew when John Byrne died as he was alive at the death of his son & granddaughter. John was a merchant. Any help greatly appreciated. Robyn in Oz

Indeed Cindy, I am fortunate in that the surnames I am working with are relatively rare (and the conjuction of LUBYs and SHANAHANs even more rare). Even so the numbers can be staggering. I usually start at the parish level just so I am not overwhelmed by the sheer numbers involved. Anyone on the list who has trouble using the site, send me your names and I'll help with searching! Happy Hunting! Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Wood" <ndhockey49112@aol.com> To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 11:44:08 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Roots Ireland I've tried Kathy's instructions and find that they do, indeed, work as she has set them forth. If I had to advise anyone, it would be that you absolutely must be patient in using these instructions, as the search is extremely tedious until you fully get the hang of it. The example in LImerick I tried is Surname: Waldron Child's name: Leave it blank Father's surname: Leave it blank Father's first name: Thomas Mother's Surname: Parker Click search. What you get back is a screen that says there are 9 matches. If you click on the link that says First Page, it will deduct a credit. But, rather than doing that, fill in a first letter in the Child's name field. Start with A, and hit search. Repeat that method until you get the screen that says you have a match. In this case A is an immediate hit. Think of names that start with an A, in Ireland. First one that comes to mind is Ann. Try it. Sure enough, that's the child. What you are doing is NOT viewing anything, but getting a result as though you did view it, but with limitations. I don't know when Ann was born, or what parish she was christened in, nor do I yet know her mother's first name. This case was easy because we actually did know mother's surname. But it gives you an idea of how to do the search. What you absolutely have to have is patience to use this method, if you have limited information. It will work, with any name, such as the child's name, allowing you to filter a field letter by letter to find the name of the father and the first name of the mother. You can repeat the search to determine a parish by using the drop down menu for the parishes, and searching them one by one. You can also determine a precise year in much the same fashion, though it would be better to have sort of an idea when they might have been born. In this case, let's use a time span of 1860 +/- 20 years for Ann. We still get our positive result, ! so now we know she was born between 1840 and 1880. Using your drop down menu for years, decrease a couple years at a time until you get nothing. In this case, going 2 years at a time, I ran out of positive results at 1860 +/- 10 years. Given that my last bottom range to get a hit was 1872, that bottom range is the key. I know that Ann has to have been born no later than 1872 and no earlier than 1871. I try 1871 with a +/- of 0 and get nothing. I try it with 1872 and there she is. An obvious, though unfortunate, thing to remember is that if you try this with a very common surname, your results will be so wide, that it might be counter productive. For instance, the surname Ryan, with the father's first name of James is going to get you 1925 results, on a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being impossible, this result is probably close to 100! So, the more info you can give it in those cases, the better off you are. For instance, if James is married to Margaret, well then I only get 185 choices. Now let's say I actually know Margaret's maiden name, which happpens to also be Ryan. Well, now I have a completely manageable return of 7 hits on a name that was previously completely unmanageable. Again, the thing to stress with this site, to make it work for you, is patience, patience, patience. Cindy