Annette, Thanks for posting this. I know their answer wasn't really very helpful to you specifically; but I am glad to see it nonetheless as I've been just a tad worried that the tutorial I shared at http://tinyurl.com/IFHF-Tutorial might be considered by some to be inappropriate as it explains how to work around being charged to do searches. (Particularly after Mr. Grenham mentioned "a way to outwit the restrictions" in his article published at: http://tinyurl.com/Grenham-article ) I want to make it perfectly clear that it was not my intention to "outwit" the site, but rather to show folks how to use the available features of the site to limit your hits and thus to make an informed intelligent decision as to which records to purchase. Based on the IFHF's statement: "You can refine your search as much as you like and as many times as you like before you need to pay to view any results.", I feel that my tutorial is NOT at all out of line and I hope it helps some of you narrow down those huge chunks of data when researching common surnames. Happy Hunting! Kathy Rhodes ----- Original Message ----- "Annette White" <amtwhite@rogers.com> This is the email I received when I complained about the fee structure, as I'm searching for a common name. There answer doesn't take into account that I may not know exactly where they lived... Dear Mrs. White, Thanks for your feedback on the new credit system. The new system allows you to narrow your searches by completing more search criteria as outlined below. <snip!> You can refine your search as much as you like and as many times as you like before you need to pay to view any results. <snip!> Yours sincerely Customer Support Team www.rootsireland.ie ----- End Original Message -----

Hi Joan I had a bit of a nose around for you as I too have Irish ancestors who went to India. Interestingly, but irrelevant, I found another Thomas Sims in the 1st Madras Fusiliers who died on the same day and in the same cholera epidemic as my great, great grandfather - this in 1857 so not your guy. I've found making the link back to Ireland from India very difficult - still haven't achieved it with my O'Kelly ancestor as no father's name on his marriage details. After years of trying might have partially nailed McCarthy and that was through ploughing through Muster Books at the National Archives. Trouble is, his first name is John and though he enlisted at Limerick he could have come from anywhere. I hope a Sims relative sticks their head over the parapet, but I fear you are in it for the long haul! Joss From: "Joan Birtles" <joanbirtles@bigpond.com> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] SIMS name in LIMERICK To: <IRL-LIMERICK@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <005701cd1649$6ea39390$4beabab0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am new to the list and hope that someone may have information on an Anthony SIMS who was baptized 3 Dec 1820 at St Munchin, Limerick, Limerick with his father's name of Hugh and mother Lucy or Lucinda. My search for an Anthony SIMS began in Madras India when a Thomas SIMS aged 23 married my ggg aunt Lydia Thorpe in 1863 in Madras with his father shown as Anthony.

ALSO you should take a look at ARCHIVES. You can get nothing out of them with out giving them your Credit card no! Roland Young -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of irl-limerick-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:01 AM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: IRL-LIMERICK Digest, Vol 7, Issue 74 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ DELETE all extra text in the Digest Today's Topics: 1. SIMS name in LIMERICK (Joan Birtles) 2. Re: IRL-LIMERICK new RootsIreland fee changes (Pat Connors) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 22:08:10 +1000 From: "Joan Birtles" <joanbirtles@bigpond.com> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] SIMS name in LIMERICK To: <IRL-LIMERICK@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <005701cd1649$6ea39390$4beabab0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Listers I am new to the list and hope that someone may have information on an Anthony SIMS who was baptized 3 Dec 1820 at St Munchin, Limerick, Limerick with his father's name of Hugh and mother Lucy or Lucinda. My search for an Anthony SIMS began in Madras India when a Thomas SIMS aged 23 married my ggg aunt Lydia Thorpe in 1863 in Madras with his father shown as Anthony. The only Anthony Sims I can find in Madras married Charlotte Barker in 1849 at Poonamallee, Madras, his father was shown as Hugh. Also an Anthony Sims died in Madras in 1859 aged 38 so I am assuming he is the Anthony Sims who married Charlotte Barker. I have no proof that the Anthony Sims who died in Madras in 1859 is the Anthony who was baptized in 1820 in Limerick but just trying to eliminate or hopefully find a SIMS ancestor who may have information. I have tried many varieties of the spelling of the surname SIMS which differs on a couple of records. Thank you for any help. Joan in NSW, Australia ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 09:24:10 -0700 From: Pat Connors <nymets22@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] IRL-LIMERICK new RootsIreland fee changes To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CAH=kouYpGB692VfvKDj1iBXsUz3kELwNWNtG7Zv-qc7j748h=g@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 When I saw the email they sent last week, I got dizzy just trying to figure out their new way of charging! I kept the email for future reading but if someone can make it simple for me, I would be very appreciative. Since there was a lot of interest in the fee changes at RootsIreland, > I thought some of you might enjoy John Grenham's response. > http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/irishroots/2012/04/08/oh-no-not-again/ > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-LIMERICK list administrator, send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-LIMERICK mailing list, send an email to IRL-LIMERICK@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-LIMERICK Digest, Vol 7, Issue 74 ******************************************* ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4925 - Release Date: 04/09/12

Kathy, You were just sharing your knowledge on searching. Not knowing how to search an individual site, keeps researchers from finding what may be there. I have search engines on my websites. Occasionally I have looked at the log of searches and been surprised that someone might only search once with say one last name. Or try a search that is like a query. You sometimes have to work at it. Anyway, I found you guide very useful. I didn't know you could try one letter and build on it. I was trying whole names. Sometimes I have found a nickname (like Kitty) which you might never find. They really could stop the site from being searched if that was their intention. Just my opinion. :) Christina Little.House.Antiques wrote: > Thanks for posting this. I know their answer wasn't really > very helpful to you specifically; but I am glad to see it > nonetheless as I've been just a tad worried that the tutorial > I shared athttp://tinyurl.com/IFHF-Tutorial might be considered > by some to be inappropriate as it explains how to work around being > charged to do searches. (Particularly after Mr. Grenham > mentioned "a way to outwit the restrictions" in his article > published at:http://tinyurl.com/Grenham-article ) > I want to make it perfectly clear that it was not my intention > to "outwit" the site, but rather to show folks how to use the > available features of the site to limit your hits and thus to > make an informed intelligent decision as to which records to > purchase. Based on the IFHF's statement: "You can refine your > search as much as you like and as many times as you like before > you need to pay to view any results.", I feel that my tutorial > is NOT at all out of line and I hope it helps some of you > narrow down those huge chunks of data when researching common > surnames.

This is the email I received when I complained about the fee structure, as I'm searching for a common name. There answer doesn't take into account that I may not know exactly where they lived... Dear Mrs. White, Thanks for your feedback on the new credit system. The new system allows you to narrow your searches by completing more search criteria as outlined below. All users can view ten pages of search results free under the new system. After that users will need to pay to view search results. You can refine your search so that you get less matches before paying to view search results (1 page of results up to a max of 10 index records will cost 10 cent (EURO) to view.) You can refine your search as much as you like and as many times as you like before you need to pay to view any results. For example a search on our site for Patrick Murphy baptisms between 1845-1855 locates 636 matches. Without further information there is no way to narrow this search. There is no charge for this search. If you enter a father's name as John, you will be told there are 102 matches - still too many. If you enter a mother's first name of Mary you will get 22 matches. If you select a particular county of origin, say Co. Galway, you get one match. You can do all this without any charge. Based on the example Patrick Murphy we have refined the search using the most common first names and looked in a mid nineteenth century timeframe when most parishes were keeping records. Yours sincerely Customer Support Team www.rootsireland.ie Thanks, Annette in Canada

Hello Listers I am new to the list and hope that someone may have information on an Anthony SIMS who was baptized 3 Dec 1820 at St Munchin, Limerick, Limerick with his father's name of Hugh and mother Lucy or Lucinda. My search for an Anthony SIMS began in Madras India when a Thomas SIMS aged 23 married my ggg aunt Lydia Thorpe in 1863 in Madras with his father shown as Anthony. The only Anthony Sims I can find in Madras married Charlotte Barker in 1849 at Poonamallee, Madras, his father was shown as Hugh. Also an Anthony Sims died in Madras in 1859 aged 38 so I am assuming he is the Anthony Sims who married Charlotte Barker. I have no proof that the Anthony Sims who died in Madras in 1859 is the Anthony who was baptized in 1820 in Limerick but just trying to eliminate or hopefully find a SIMS ancestor who may have information. I have tried many varieties of the spelling of the surname SIMS which differs on a couple of records. Thank you for any help. Joan in NSW, Australia

When I saw the email they sent last week, I got dizzy just trying to figure out their new way of charging! I kept the email for future reading but if someone can make it simple for me, I would be very appreciative. Since there was a lot of interest in the fee changes at RootsIreland, > I thought some of you might enjoy John Grenham's response. > http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/irishroots/2012/04/08/oh-no-not-again/ > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Since there was a lot of interest in the fee changes at RootsIreland, I thought some of you might enjoy John Grenham's response. http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/irishroots/2012/04/08/oh-no-not-again/ Christina

Since all the tithes for this barony have been transcribed, I have formed an index for the whole barony for easier searching. Just find you name, get the civil parish and then go to the civil parish and get the townland(s). You can find them on the County Limerick section of my website: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/LIM/index.htm -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Steve, The Brideswell prison is actually in Kerry but very close to the Limerick Border and I must say I was confused at first. The O'Shaughnessy Rally was held in Tarbert on 2 occasions and on the first we visited the Brideswell Prison Museum. Apparently a lot of their prisoners were sent to Australia. They were flying the Australian flag which was a bit tatty so when I came home I sent them a new one, courtesy of our local member of parliament. There is a little teashop and information centre there and the ladies were delightful. If I were you I would make contact perhaps after googling Brideswell Museum and they will be only too happy to help you if they can. Hope that is some help. Megan (in Australia). -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 140 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hi Margaret, I checked the catalogue at the National Archives and could not find a Thomas Heath in the 47th Regiment. This does not necessarily mean that it is incorrect. It may mean that he did not receive a pension or that the record has not survived. Do you know how old he was when he died. Regards, Christine -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margarets gmail Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2012 11:19 a.m. To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Thomas Heath soldier 47th regiment Hello list I am looking for Thomas Heath who died in Limerick in 1852. His death record says he died in St Munchins COI Parish. I have no birth for him and no marriage. He was soldier in 47th regiment. Any help appreciated Margaret ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Jerry and Suzanne, Thank you for this insight. It is something that I need to bear in mind. Regards, Christine -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Kelly Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2012 8:28 a.m. To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] pronunciation of "D" and "T" by native Irish (Irish Gaelic) speakers A chairde, In Irish (i.e., in Irish Gaelic), a broad D (a D with an a,o,or u as the closest vowel in the same word) and a broad T (a T with an a, o, or u as the closest vowel in the same word) can both be pronounced very "thickly" with the tongue under the upper teeth.  Hard to tell them apart unless you're close up and paying attention. Also in Irish, they can be both pronounced as TH.  So, for example, the Irish word drong (meaning a group of people) comes into English as 'throng'. Go raibh sé sin cabhrach.  /  Hope that's helpful, Jerry Treibheanna Éireannacha jerrykelly@att.net www.irishtribes.com --- On Wed, 3/28/12, Suzanne <t4tsinda@bigpond.com> wrote: From: Suzanne <t4tsinda@bigpond.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] "D" and "T" Might Be Verbal Mishearing By the Original Record Recorder To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, March 28, 2012, 6:05 AM Please add to that the fact the person listening is hard of hearing. I can attest to the frequency with which I have to query spelling for indeed, B, T, D and G plus a few others are very difficult to discern and this is the case even with hearing aid in place at times. Suzanne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Christine I think he may have been married though to Mary Spearing from Limerick and may have been living in Waterford before his death.. this is only maybe's. Mary turns up in London with son John on census in 1871. No sign of Thomas Heath there Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margarets gmail" <margaretspearin@eircom.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:38 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Thomas Heath soldier 47th regiment > He was aged 24 on death record from rootsireland so born ab.1828 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christine Tregonning" <CJTregonning@xtra.co.nz> > To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:26 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Thomas Heath soldier 47th regiment > > >> Hi Margaret, >> >> I checked the catalogue at the National Archives and could not find a >> Thomas >> Heath in the 47th Regiment. This does not necessarily mean that it is >> incorrect. It may mean that he did not receive a pension or that the >> record >> has not survived. Do you know how old he was when he died. >> >> Regards, >> >> Christine >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margarets gmail >> Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2012 11:19 a.m. >> To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Thomas Heath soldier 47th regiment >> >> Hello list >> I am looking for Thomas Heath who died in Limerick in 1852. His death >> record >> says he died in St Munchins COI Parish. I have no birth for him and no >> marriage. He was soldier in 47th regiment. Any help appreciated >> >> Margaret >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

He was aged 24 on death record from rootsireland so born ab.1828 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Tregonning" <CJTregonning@xtra.co.nz> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Thomas Heath soldier 47th regiment > Hi Margaret, > > I checked the catalogue at the National Archives and could not find a > Thomas > Heath in the 47th Regiment. This does not necessarily mean that it is > incorrect. It may mean that he did not receive a pension or that the > record > has not survived. Do you know how old he was when he died. > > Regards, > > Christine > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margarets gmail > Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2012 11:19 a.m. > To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Thomas Heath soldier 47th regiment > > Hello list > I am looking for Thomas Heath who died in Limerick in 1852. His death > record > says he died in St Munchins COI Parish. I have no birth for him and no > marriage. He was soldier in 47th regiment. Any help appreciated > > Margaret > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello list I am looking for Thomas Heath who died in Limerick in 1852. His death record says he died in St Munchins COI Parish. I have no birth for him and no marriage. He was soldier in 47th regiment. Any help appreciated Margaret

I wondered if there are any records of inmates for Tarbert Bridgewell. I was recently looking at birth records at FamilySearch.org and notice that Tarbert was listed for several people from two different lines. Some listings show Tarbert in Limerick and some show Kerry. What even confused me more was that some individuals list both (two separate) Tarbert, Kerry and Limerick. Anyway, after looking up information on Tarbert my thoughts were that in these cases maybe the father was incarcerated at the prison while the mother resided in Limerick. Thanks for any help anyone can provide. Steve

A chairde, In Irish (i.e., in Irish Gaelic), a broad D (a D with an a,o,or u as the closest vowel in the same word) and a broad T (a T with an a, o, or u as the closest vowel in the same word) can both be pronounced very "thickly" with the tongue under the upper teeth.  Hard to tell them apart unless you're close up and paying attention.   Also in Irish, they can be both pronounced as TH.  So, for example, the Irish word drong (meaning a group of people) comes into English as 'throng'. Go raibh sé sin cabhrach.  /  Hope that's helpful, Jerry Treibheanna Éireannacha jerrykelly@att.net www.irishtribes.com --- On Wed, 3/28/12, Suzanne <t4tsinda@bigpond.com> wrote: From: Suzanne <t4tsinda@bigpond.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] "D" and "T" Might Be Verbal Mishearing By the Original Record Recorder To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, March 28, 2012, 6:05 AM Please add to that the fact the person listening is hard of hearing. I can attest to the frequency with which I have to query spelling for indeed, B, T, D and G plus a few others are very difficult to discern and this is the case even with hearing aid in place at times. Suzanne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I was just checking out what has been added to Family Search and noticed they show that there are additions for "Ireland Births and Baptisms". I don't know how much may have been added or from which sources. Maybe civil births. The addition date is March 26th. If you want to check it out - here is the shortened url: http://goo.gl/CLKek or https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&countryId=1927084 Good hunting... Christina ===============================

Hello list I am looking for any information about thr Hartwell family in Limerick especially and anywhere else in Ireland and beyond. Mary Spierin daughter of Matthew Spierin married Barry Hartwell c 1742.. Mary was from Adare Co Limerick.. Any information on Barry Hartwell or any Hartwell or Spierin very welcome Thank you Margaret Visit the Spearin Surname Project @ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spearin/Index.html and here at our facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/219630734727688/

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