Hi Monica I'm in the same boat as you as far as the brick wall is concerned. I have managed to obtain quite a bit of information from the Catholic Diocese in Port Elizabeth but it's everything that happened here. I know it's very difficult to get info in Ireland and everything was only recorded after 1864. Best we just KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON. What are you stuck with, maybe I can help on this side. Are you also in SA? Regards Patty -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Monica Sutherland Sent: 17 January 2013 04:32 PM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] KEARNEY/CARNEY Hi Patty I can't help you with your search but I just wanted to mention that my great grandparents also came out on the 'Tudor' and lived in Port Elizabeth. William Harold was from Derry but Ann McCoy, his wife, was from Limerick. There seems to have been quite a number of passengers from Limerick. They also had some of the children christened in the same church as yours. Unfortunately I have hit a brick wall as far as my crowd are concerned but, if I come across anything useful, I will let you know. Regards Monica On 17 January 2013 13:44, Patty Myers <pattym@frontlineum.co.za> wrote: > Hi there > > I'm someone out there can help me. > > My great great grandmother Bridget Kearney/Carney age 18 came over from > Ireland to South Africa in 1861 on the ship the Coldstream II. With her > on > the ship were Edmond/Edmund Kearney age 22 (they were both single), > John age > 26 with his wife Mary 25 (maiden name unknown). I don't know if they > were siblings or cousins. Opposite the entry for John it shows FROM: LIMERICK. > They were all coming to a Patrick Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > Now.Patrick Kearney age 24 came over with his wife Catherine > Shaughnessy age > 20 on the ship Tudor in 1860 (so this is the one the above came over to). > With them on the ship were James Kearney age 26 and Margaret Dwyer > (they only married after they arrived). > > > > There was also a John Kearney age 27 from Nicolas Street, Limerick > that came over in 1864 to a Mary Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > I have found a Death Notice here for James Kearney and Margaret Dwyer > but they have recorded it as CARNEY. I'm not sure if maybe the Irish > pronunciation made them write it as it sounded. Margaret was present > at his death but she couldn't write so she made her mark with an X. > > On his Death Notice it states that he was from Broadford Co. Clare and > his parents are recorded as Michael Carney and Mary Naughton. > > > > I am convinced that they are all related as the marriages and baptisms > that took place for all them at the St Augustine's Catholic Church in > Port Elizabeth show them as witnesses to these events. > > > > I am desperately trying to find out who Bridget's parents were and > where she was born and baptised. The fact that Limerick is mentioned > makes me think that maybe the whole family came from there. > > > > All help will be greatly appreciated. > > Kind regards > > Patty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Limerick born ancestor, Michael William SHANAHAN, traveled on the Ship "Rock Light" from Liverpool to New York City and I'm trying to ascertain if there were any folks on the ship that were known to him from his home town. Here's a newspaper account of some of the events that happened aboard the ship: " MARITIME INTELLIGENCE. Port of New York, September 29, 1856. C LEARED [snip!] ARRIVED. [snip!] Ship Rock Light, Drummond, Liverpool Aug 31, with mdse and 513 passengers to C Grinnell*; had two deaths on the passage. Sept 21, Lat 43, L on 47, exchanged signals with the ship Victoria Reed; Sept 19, on the banks of Newfoundland, George Clarkson, of New York, a seaman, fell from maintopgallant yard and was instantly killed. [snip!] Miscellaneous and Disasters. A Card. -- SHIP ROCK LIGHT, at SEA, Sept. 28, 1856. -- We the undersigned, passengers on board the ship Rock Light, from Liverpool, about to leave the vessel which has safely brought us, we trust, to our future happy homes, cannot part without making this small manifestation of our grateful feelings to our worthy captain E. B. Drummond, and his excellent and efficient first officer, Mr. Alexander J. Day, a truly "noble tar," may he live a thousand years and his memory never grow less in our recollection, and to the other officers of the ship generally, for their humane and kind treatment to us all during our voyage from Liverpool, and for the cleanliness of our noble ship. Long may they all live and all their efforts to please the emigrating public be crowned with that success they so justly merit. Respectfully, William H. JONES, Job JAMESON, John POWELL, John Thomas WELLS, Hugh MOORE, David ROSE, O. J. GILL, Wm. EDGAR, John EDGAR, David KELLEY, Lavis NICHOLS, Thomas VINCHY, Thomas FENETHESTON, on behalf of the passengers. [snip!] SHIP LIGHT ROCK -- Mr. Benj B Chase, of the pilot boat Geo Steers, requests us to state that the ship Rock Light refused a pilot from that boat on the 26th inst, in Lat 40 28, Lon 69. " * *that would be Grinnell's line of "Swallow Tail" packet ships All 13 of those passengers who wrote that card of thanks to Captain Ezekial Drummond were Irish born. I'm slowly working my way around trying to gather info on what happened to them when they landed in NYC and where they were from in Ireland. The two passengers who died aboard the ship (from the manifest records) are (1) John KIRBY age 54 born c 1802 Ireland - died at sea 24 Sep 1856. (2) George BLACKBURNE , born c 1856 Ireland - died at sea 23 Sep 1856, George was the infant son of Fanny BLACKBURNE (born c 1832 Ireland) . John KIRBY was traveling with his family: (all of them born Ireland) Wife: Margaret Kirby born c1802 Children: Thomas Kirby born c 1834-36 Elizabeth Kirby born c 1834 John Kirby born c 1836-42 Miner Kirby or Michael Kirby born c 1841-43 Hannah Kirby born c 1843 Looking at IFHF records it appears that the kids may have been baptized in St. Michael's RC Parish in the city of Limerick and that John Kirby and Margaret may have marred in 1833 in Ballybricken & Bohermore RC parish? If anyone on the list has KIRBY family from the city or that parish (or is working on any of the other surnames of the various passengers mentioned here) can enlighten me on this particular KIRBY family I'd be grateful as I'm having trouble locating the widow Margaret and her kids in any of the USA census records. Also was wondering if anyone can assist me in determining the actual date the ship Rock Light LEFT Liverpool? The newspaper article mentions the ship being at Liverpool on 31 Aug 1856... but it didn't arrive in New York City until 30 Sep 1856. Seems to me that if it left on the 31 of Aug that it would have arrived way before 30 Sep 1856! Did it really take a whole month for a steam ship to cross the Atlantic? Or does that date indicate that it was just sitting in Liverpool on 31 Aug 1856 taking on cargo and provisions? If anyone has a subscription to English newspapers that might be able to check the Maritime reports for Aug and Sep of 1856 for this ship to look up the actual date the Rock Light departed Liverpool, I'd be very grateful. Thanks! Kathy

Yes, thank you Jack, I have been to that site - and had a small bit of luck too. My ancestor actually appears there! Onward and upward... Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: Jack Reidy Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:24 PM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Can anyone help with my problem? There is a website for the Childerhouses at http://www.childerhouse.org/ Unfortunately, it appears that you need to register to do any searching. Hope this helps Jack Reidy http://www.jackreidy.com/genealogy/surnames.htm ________________________________ From: Jennifer Smit <jayarsmit@ntlworld.com> To: Mary Ellen Chambers <maryln61@yahoo.com>; irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Can anyone help with my problem? Yes I have checked the Army records at Kew, and nothing comes up. Any suggestions appreciated. Regards Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: Mary Ellen Chambers Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 8:14 PM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Can anyone help with my problem? Did you check out the online records from the KEW?? You did not state just where & what data you checked. Mary Ellen Chambers >________________________________ > From: Jennifer Smit <jayarsmit@ntlworld.com> >To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com >Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2013 11:03 AM >Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Can anyone help with my problem? > >I am hoping that someone can come up with an idea to help me with this >problem. > >I have an ancestor who lived and died in South Africa. Her Death Notice >there shows that she was born 'in Ireland', that her parents were James and >Mary Childerhouse, and I know her birthdate - 1816. I also know that she >went to SA with her husband who was a soldier, and I have found her >marriage >certificate in Cork records. Her name was Ellen Childerhouse, and the only >Childerhouse's I can find are in Limerick, but none of the above mentioned. > >It is possible that James was related to the Limerick Childerhouse's and >that any record of him there may no longer exist. I have also found that >the Childerhouse name is most prevalent in Norfolk. It is my guess that he >may have been a soldier and could have been stationed in Ireland at the >time >of Ellen's birth, but there are no military records for him that I can >find. > >I hope someone may be able to come up with a theory, or a course of >research >that I may have missed, as I am stymied! > >Thank you - and a Happy New Year to the list >Jennifer Smit >Folkestone, Kent > >====================== >Query Board >http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Patty I can't help you with your search but I just wanted to mention that my great grandparents also came out on the 'Tudor' and lived in Port Elizabeth. William Harold was from Derry but Ann McCoy, his wife, was from Limerick. There seems to have been quite a number of passengers from Limerick. They also had some of the children christened in the same church as yours. Unfortunately I have hit a brick wall as far as my crowd are concerned but, if I come across anything useful, I will let you know. Regards Monica On 17 January 2013 13:44, Patty Myers <pattym@frontlineum.co.za> wrote: > Hi there > > I'm someone out there can help me. > > My great great grandmother Bridget Kearney/Carney age 18 came over from > Ireland to South Africa in 1861 on the ship the Coldstream II. With her > on > the ship were Edmond/Edmund Kearney age 22 (they were both single), John > age > 26 with his wife Mary 25 (maiden name unknown). I don't know if they were > siblings or cousins. Opposite the entry for John it shows FROM: LIMERICK. > They were all coming to a Patrick Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > Now.Patrick Kearney age 24 came over with his wife Catherine Shaughnessy > age > 20 on the ship Tudor in 1860 (so this is the one the above came over to). > With them on the ship were James Kearney age 26 and Margaret Dwyer (they > only married after they arrived). > > > > There was also a John Kearney age 27 from Nicolas Street, Limerick that > came over in 1864 to a Mary Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > I have found a Death Notice here for James Kearney and Margaret Dwyer but > they have recorded it as CARNEY. I'm not sure if maybe the Irish > pronunciation made them write it as it sounded. Margaret was present at > his > death but she couldn't write so she made her mark with an X. > > On his Death Notice it states that he was from Broadford Co. Clare and his > parents are recorded as Michael Carney and Mary Naughton. > > > > I am convinced that they are all related as the marriages and baptisms that > took place for all them at the St Augustine's Catholic Church in Port > Elizabeth show them as witnesses to these events. > > > > I am desperately trying to find out who Bridget's parents were and where > she > was born and baptised. The fact that Limerick is mentioned makes me think > that maybe the whole family came from there. > > > > All help will be greatly appreciated. > > Kind regards > > Patty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi there I'm someone out there can help me. My great great grandmother Bridget Kearney/Carney age 18 came over from Ireland to South Africa in 1861 on the ship the Coldstream II. With her on the ship were Edmond/Edmund Kearney age 22 (they were both single), John age 26 with his wife Mary 25 (maiden name unknown). I don't know if they were siblings or cousins. Opposite the entry for John it shows FROM: LIMERICK. They were all coming to a Patrick Kearney in Port Elizabeth. Now.Patrick Kearney age 24 came over with his wife Catherine Shaughnessy age 20 on the ship Tudor in 1860 (so this is the one the above came over to). With them on the ship were James Kearney age 26 and Margaret Dwyer (they only married after they arrived). There was also a John Kearney age 27 from Nicolas Street, Limerick that came over in 1864 to a Mary Kearney in Port Elizabeth. I have found a Death Notice here for James Kearney and Margaret Dwyer but they have recorded it as CARNEY. I'm not sure if maybe the Irish pronunciation made them write it as it sounded. Margaret was present at his death but she couldn't write so she made her mark with an X. On his Death Notice it states that he was from Broadford Co. Clare and his parents are recorded as Michael Carney and Mary Naughton. I am convinced that they are all related as the marriages and baptisms that took place for all them at the St Augustine's Catholic Church in Port Elizabeth show them as witnesses to these events. I am desperately trying to find out who Bridget's parents were and where she was born and baptised. The fact that Limerick is mentioned makes me think that maybe the whole family came from there. All help will be greatly appreciated. Kind regards Patty

There is a website for the Childerhouses at http://www.childerhouse.org/ Unfortunately, it appears that you need to register to do any searching.  Hope this helps   Jack Reidy  http://www.jackreidy.com/genealogy/surnames.htm ________________________________ From: Jennifer Smit <jayarsmit@ntlworld.com> To: Mary Ellen Chambers <maryln61@yahoo.com>; irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Can anyone help with my problem? Yes I have checked the Army records at Kew, and nothing comes up. Any suggestions appreciated. Regards Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: Mary Ellen Chambers Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 8:14 PM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Can anyone help with my problem? Did you check out the online records from the KEW??  You did not state just where & what data you checked. Mary Ellen Chambers >________________________________ > From: Jennifer Smit <jayarsmit@ntlworld.com> >To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com >Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2013 11:03 AM >Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Can anyone help with my problem? > >I am hoping that someone can come up with an idea to help me with this >problem. > >I have an ancestor who lived and died in South Africa.  Her Death Notice >there shows that she was born 'in Ireland', that her parents were James and >Mary Childerhouse, and I know her birthdate - 1816.  I also know that she >went to SA with her husband who was a soldier, and I have found her >marriage >certificate in Cork records.  Her name was Ellen Childerhouse, and the only >Childerhouse's I can find are in Limerick, but none of the above mentioned. > >It is possible that James was related to the Limerick Childerhouse's and >that any record of him there may no longer exist.  I have also found that >the Childerhouse name is most prevalent in Norfolk.  It is my guess that he >may have been a soldier and could have been stationed in Ireland at the >time >of Ellen's birth, but there are no military records for him that I can >find. > >I hope someone may be able to come up with a theory, or a course of >research >that I may have missed, as I am stymied! > >Thank you - and a Happy New Year to the list >Jennifer Smit >Folkestone, Kent > >====================== >Query Board >http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Vicki, IFHF (Rootsireland.ie) has a total of 10 Catherine Collins born in Ireland in 1855: 06 in Co Limerick 01 in Co Cavan 01 in Co Kilkenny 01 in Co Offaly 01 in Co Antrim One of these I know you know about because you posted previously at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/IRL-LIMERICK/2010-03/1268538359 That Catherine Collins was born 28 Feb 1855 in DROMCOLLIHER & BROADFORD (RC) parish to Thomas Collins and Deborah Sullivan with sponsors Tim McAuliffe and Maria Sullivan. Did you ever follow up and rule this set of parents IN or OUT for "your" Catherine? I found a rather odd marriage record for a Thomas Collins and Debora Sullivan in the same parish. I say odd only because IF this couple are the parents of the child Catherine born 28 Feb 1855 in Dromcolliher, then the child was born out of wedlock because the marriage didn't occur until 1860. However, with such two common names as Collins and Sullivan it could very well be that this couple are not the parents of the Catherine born 1855 despite them having wed in the same parish where she was born. Also on http://www.harrybishop.ca/~familytree/738.htm you mention the family story again stating that Catherine's parents immigrated to Canada, the father passed and then her mother was murdered and that Catherine and her siblings were split up and cared for by other families. Have you tried climbing the family tree 'sideways' so to speak by tracking Catherine's sibling's records to see if any of them mention or give ANY names for their parents? I think in order to find that 1932-42 newspaper article you are going to have to have something else (a place name in Canada or Ireland, or a first name for Catherine's mother or father) in order to dig that one out! But about Catherine's mother being murdered...had to occur between 1855 and 1871 - (when your Catherine shows up in the same household as Annette Duffy) and I'd assume that since it was a murder that there would have to be an official coroner's report on the death. Have you tried looking for these? Do you have any idea where the murder occurred? If so perhaps there is a mention of it in local newspapers? Researching orphans is always tough, I've got quite a few in my family lines too, and the funny thing is we have almost exactly the same family 'tale' as you in my HOLLAND line about receiving notice of an estate matter that needed to be cleared up, but despite correspondence being sent that the estate never was heard from again. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vicki Bristow Ferguson" <vbristowferguson@yahoo.com> To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:13:13 PM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Questions about estates Hi everyone, I have a question I'm hoping someone might know the answer to. I'm trying to crack through one very stubborn brick wall regarding my Great Great Grandmother Catherine Collins. My Grandmother recalls that there was a notice in the newspaper (here in Canada) from a lawyer for law firm in Ireland looking for Catherine or her descendants. The notice was posted when she was a girl so it would have been sometime between 1932-1942. We believe this was in regard to the estate of Catherine's maternal Grandfather (who's first or last name we do not know). We also don't know what part of Ireland her Grandfather would have been from (and thus where these lawyers would have been located). Unfortunately all we know is that the notice was seen, a response was sent but no one here in Canada ever heard back. My Grandmother would so desperately like to know more about Catherine Collins and I've been trying to help her through all the traditional routes. I happened to be on this board for a different family branch and thought I would put it out there. Does any one know if there is a central place one can look regarding unclaimed Irish estates? We're not concerned about the estate it's self but would love to know more about Catherine's mother's family. I thought if there was a way to do a search on Catherine's name (listed as an heir in the will) we might be able to find something. It's a long shot I know. Thanks so much! Vicki Ontario, Canada ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sent from my iPad On Jan 15, 2013, at 10:13 AM, "Little.House.Antiques" <little.house.antiques@comcast.net> wrote: > Vicki, > > > IFHF (Rootsireland.ie) has a total of 10 Catherine Collins born in Ireland in 1855: > 06 in Co Limerick > 01 in Co Cavan > 01 in Co Kilkenny > 01 in Co Offaly > 01 in Co Antrim > > > One of these I know you know about because you posted previously at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/IRL-LIMERICK/2010-03/1268538359 > That Catherine Collins was born 28 Feb 1855 in DROMCOLLIHER & > BROADFORD (RC) parish to Thomas Collins and Deborah Sullivan with > sponsors Tim McAuliffe and Maria Sullivan. > > > Did you ever follow up and rule this set of parents IN or OUT for "your" > Catherine? > > > I found a rather odd marriage record for a Thomas Collins and Debora Sullivan > in the same parish. I say odd only because IF this couple are the parents of > the child Catherine born 28 Feb 1855 in Dromcolliher, then the child was born > out of wedlock because the marriage didn't occur until 1860. However, with > such two common names as Collins and Sullivan it could very well be that this > couple are not the parents of the Catherine born 1855 despite them having > wed in the same parish where she was born. > > > Also on http://www.harrybishop.ca/~familytree/738.htm > you mention the family story again stating that Catherine's parents immigrated to > Canada, the father passed and then her mother was murdered and that Catherine > and her siblings were split up and cared for by other families. > > > Have you tried climbing the family tree 'sideways' so to speak by tracking Catherine's > sibling's records to see if any of them mention or give ANY names for their parents? > > > I think in order to find that 1932-42 newspaper article you are going to have to have > something else (a place name in Canada or Ireland, or a first name for Catherine's > mother or father) in order to dig that one out! > > > But about Catherine's mother being murdered...had to occur between 1855 and 1871 - > (when your Catherine shows up in the same household as Annette Duffy) and I'd > assume that since it was a murder that there would have to be an official coroner's > report on the death. Have you tried looking for these? > Do you have any idea where the murder occurred? > If so perhaps there is a mention of it in local newspapers? > > > Researching orphans is always tough, I've got quite a few in my family lines too, and > the funny thing is we have almost exactly the same family 'tale' as you in my HOLLAND > line about receiving notice of an estate matter that needed to be cleared up, but despite > correspondence being sent that the estate never was heard from again. > > > Kathy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vicki Bristow Ferguson" <vbristowferguson@yahoo.com> > To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 1:13:13 PM > Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Questions about estates > > Hi everyone, > I have a question I'm hoping someone might know the answer to. I'm trying to crack through one very stubborn brick wall regarding my Great Great Grandmother Catherine Collins. My Grandmother recalls that there was a notice in the newspaper (here in Canada) from a lawyer for law firm in Ireland looking for Catherine or her descendants. The notice was posted when she was a girl so it would have been sometime between 1932-1942. We believe this was in regard to the estate of Catherine's maternal Grandfather (who's first or last name we do not know). We also don't know what part of Ireland her Grandfather would have been from (and thus where these lawyers would have been located). Unfortunately all we know is that the notice was seen, a response was sent but no one here in Canada ever heard back. > > My Grandmother would so desperately like to know more about Catherine Collins and I've been trying to help her through all the traditional routes. I happened to be on this board for a different family branch and thought I would put it out there. Does any one know if there is a central place one can look regarding unclaimed Irish estates? We're not concerned about the estate it's self but would love to know more about Catherine's mother's family. I thought if there was a way to do a search on Catherine's name (listed as an heir in the will) we might be able to find something. > It's a long shot I know. > Thanks so much! > Vicki > Ontario, Canada > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hoping someone out there has info for the following family.......... Michael Moloney b.c. 1844 to Timothy (wife Mary?)Moloney - siblings could be Katty and Dan. Michael m. Hanora Mason b.c.1837 (1835?) to James Mason and Bridget Hayes. Marriage took place at the chapel in Parteen, Co. Clare Feb. 12, 1865 with witnesses James Dillon and James McNamara. Parteen is within walking distance to Limerick City. Marriage certificate from the registrar's District of Cooleycasey states residence of both bride and groom to be Knockballena turath - not sure if the second not capitalized word is part of the village name. Michael and Hanora's children are Marian b. Dec. 1865 and John b. Feb 1867. John was a national teacher married to Maria b. 1872 - children Kathleen, Mary G. and Francis - residence Ballyea South, Co. Clare. Living with them in 1901 was niece Mary A. Pilkington b. 1889. No information for Marian. Anxious to hear from someone! Judie Mason Chicago

Did you try finding the advertisement in Canada? Im sure the lawyers name would be on that. if the advert had Catherine's name in it, you could search her name. Maybe someone with access to Paper of Record will do a search for you...especially if you know which paper. If you want to join yourself, go to: https://paperofrecord.hypernet.ca/default.asp Rita Sent from my iPad On Jan 15, 2013, at 12:01 AM, irl-limerick-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > have a question I'm hoping someone might know the answer to.? I'm trying to crack through one very stubborn brick wall regarding my Great Great Grandmother Catherine Collins.? My Grandmother recalls that there was a notice in the newspaper (here in Canada) from a lawyer for law firm in Ireland looking for Catherine or her descendants.?The notice was posted when she was a girl so it would have been sometime between 1932-1942.?We believe this was in regard to the estate of Catherine's maternal Grandfather (who's first or last name we do not know).? We also don't know what part of Ireland her Grandfather would have been from (and thus where these lawyers would have been located).? Unfortunately all we know is that the notice was seen, a response was sent but no one here in Canada ever heard back.

I would suggest http://www.irishtimes.com/archive/ to check for the newspaper article, the service costs a few dollars (not an extraordinary amount) but could save you quite a bit in the long run. Sharon On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Vicki Bristow Ferguson <vbristowferguson@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi everyone, > I have a question I'm hoping someone might know the answer to. I'm trying to crack through one very stubborn brick wall regarding my Great Great Grandmother Catherine Collins. My Grandmother recalls that there was a notice in the newspaper (here in Canada) from a lawyer for law firm in Ireland looking for Catherine or her descendants. The notice was posted when she was a girl so it would have been sometime between 1932-1942. We believe this was in regard to the estate of Catherine's maternal Grandfather (who's first or last name we do not know). We also don't know what part of Ireland her Grandfather would have been from (and thus where these lawyers would have been located). Unfortunately all we know is that the notice was seen, a response was sent but no one here in Canada ever heard back. > > My Grandmother would so desperately like to know more about Catherine Collins and I've been trying to help her through all the traditional routes. I happened to be on this board for a different family branch and thought I would put it out there. Does any one know if there is a central place one can look regarding unclaimed Irish estates? We're not concerned about the estate it's self but would love to know more about Catherine's mother's family. I thought if there was a way to do a search on Catherine's name (listed as an heir in the will) we might be able to find something. > It's a long shot I know. > Thanks so much! > Vicki > Ontario, Canada > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Limerick's Life Limerick's Life Facebook Limerick's Life Twitter

Vickie....I am a Collins descendant and would like to help you, However I can not say that I trace to the Collins line that will help you directly, My efforts have taken me to Patrick and Ellen Collins in 1844. They had six children: four male and two female. The males were; Timothy b; 1845, John b: 1846, James b: 1850 ( my maternal gf  Yes, I am in my 80s) and Patrick b :1852 . James and Patrick emigrated to U.S. together.... have sketchy traces on Timothy and none on John...The family was situated in County Limerick, around Cappamore/Doon. Patrick and Timothy were blacksmiths....see if any of this triggers a hope....good luck and best wishes   Jim Clarkson   Brighton< Micigan USA Jim Clarkson jacl@sbcglobal.net --- On Mon, 1/14/13, Vicki Bristow Ferguson <vbristowferguson@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Vicki Bristow Ferguson <vbristowferguson@yahoo.com> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Questions about estates To: "irl-limerick@rootsweb.com" <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 1:13 PM Hi everyone, I have a question I'm hoping someone might know the answer to.  I'm trying to crack through one very stubborn brick wall regarding my Great Great Grandmother Catherine Collins.  My Grandmother recalls that there was a notice in the newspaper (here in Canada) from a lawyer for law firm in Ireland looking for Catherine or her descendants. The notice was posted when she was a girl so it would have been sometime between 1932-1942. We believe this was in regard to the estate of Catherine's maternal Grandfather (who's first or last name we do not know).  We also don't know what part of Ireland her Grandfather would have been from (and thus where these lawyers would have been located).  Unfortunately all we know is that the notice was seen, a response was sent but no one here in Canada ever heard back.   My Grandmother would so desperately like to know more about Catherine Collins and I've been trying to help her through all the traditional routes.  I happened to be on this board for a different family branch and thought I would put it out there.  Does any one know if there is a central place one can look regarding unclaimed Irish estates?  We're not concerned about the estate it's self but would love to know more about Catherine's mother's family.  I thought if there was a way to do a search on Catherine's name (listed as an heir in the will) we might be able to find something. It's a long shot I know. Thanks so much! Vicki Ontario, Canada ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi everyone, I have a question I'm hoping someone might know the answer to.  I'm trying to crack through one very stubborn brick wall regarding my Great Great Grandmother Catherine Collins.  My Grandmother recalls that there was a notice in the newspaper (here in Canada) from a lawyer for law firm in Ireland looking for Catherine or her descendants. The notice was posted when she was a girl so it would have been sometime between 1932-1942. We believe this was in regard to the estate of Catherine's maternal Grandfather (who's first or last name we do not know).  We also don't know what part of Ireland her Grandfather would have been from (and thus where these lawyers would have been located).  Unfortunately all we know is that the notice was seen, a response was sent but no one here in Canada ever heard back.   My Grandmother would so desperately like to know more about Catherine Collins and I've been trying to help her through all the traditional routes.  I happened to be on this board for a different family branch and thought I would put it out there.  Does any one know if there is a central place one can look regarding unclaimed Irish estates?  We're not concerned about the estate it's self but would love to know more about Catherine's mother's family.  I thought if there was a way to do a search on Catherine's name (listed as an heir in the will) we might be able to find something. It's a long shot I know. Thanks so much! Vicki Ontario, Canada

Sandy, I have a copy of the book that you are looking for: Ballingarry, Granagh and Clouncagh, County Limerick Archival Records 1800-1900 I am willing to sell my copy for a small cost just to cover expenses of mailing. Contact me off list at kentucky@frontiernet.net Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Keroack" <pkeroack@sbcglobal.net> To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 1:57:24 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] THE BOOK - Ballingarry, Granagh and Clouncagh: Archival Records, 1800-1900 Sandy, Although I am not interested in selling it, the copy I purchased new cost, I believe, about as much as is being asked (I don't have my receipt and that sum may have included shipping costs from Ireland to the US). I assume you know that it does not include RC parish records. Otherwise, it does have a variety of interesting extractions of local records.  I can send you the publication details included at the front of the volume, if you wish. Paul Keroack ________________________________ From: Sandy Lovell <sandy0412@aol.com> To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, January 12, 2013 1:52:03 PM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] THE BOOK - Ballingarry, Granagh and Clouncagh: Archival Records, 1800-1900 Hello is anyone interested in selling a copy of this book?  One is available online for $46.00.  I think he is price gouging.  I would be interested to obtain a copy if one is available! Thanks! Sandy ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello is anyone interested in selling a copy of this book? One is available online for $46.00. I think he is price gouging. I would be interested to obtain a copy if one is available! Thanks! Sandy

I read below families living in the Kilfinane, perhaps Darragh. My Irish families Casey and Carroll were said to live in Kilfinane and Darragh. Were able with the help of my 3rd cousin living in the area, to review the St Andrews Chuch records in Kilfinane. The church had baptism records as early as 1838. Bill Casey 1136 Berry Road PO Box 36 Apulia Station, NY 13020 waymark 42°49'24.97" N 76°03'27.19" W bill5308@aol.com 315 683-5674 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:45:45 -0500 From: Hannigan Genealogy <hannigangenealogy@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Hannigan genealogy To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <50F09619.80904@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Jan - Thank you for your reply. I have the death certificate and it indicates his parents were Cornelius and Mary. Understand the death certificate was from 1884 and the information was provided by his wife. It does make sense since his oldest children were named Mary and Cornelius. I has some tell me a long time ago to check the Kilfinane area but I have not had any success locating any records. Patrick married Catherine O'Neill - presumabely in Morrisians, New York in about 1867. She would have been 12-13 years old and he would have been about 27. Kate survived until 1925 when she passed away - reported at the age of 70 on her death certificate.Her parents were listed as James O'Neil and Bridget Murphy from Ireland. There is no county listed for her birth or her parents. Any additional help is appreciated. John C Hannigan On 1/10/2013 12:13 PM, Jan Fortado wrote: > It would probably be a big help if you could get your ancestor's death record to seewho his parents were (if they were listed). If your ancestor was born c1840, many parishes did not yet keep records so you might not find his Baptism. You can alwaystry Irishroots.com to be sure. I have Hannigans who intermarried with my Kennys. These Hannigans were fromDarragh. I don't know if they were from Darragh More or Darragh Beg, but it isin the general Kilfinane area. > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-LIMERICK list administrator, send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-LIMERICK mailing list, send an email to IRL-LIMERICK@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-LIMERICK Digest, Vol 8, Issue 12 *******************************************

Sandy, Although I am not interested in selling it, the copy I purchased new cost, I believe, about as much as is being asked (I don't have my receipt and that sum may have included shipping costs from Ireland to the US). I assume you know that it does not include RC parish records. Otherwise, it does have a variety of interesting extractions of local records.  I can send you the publication details included at the front of the volume, if you wish. Paul Keroack ________________________________ From: Sandy Lovell <sandy0412@aol.com> To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, January 12, 2013 1:52:03 PM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] THE BOOK - Ballingarry, Granagh and Clouncagh: Archival Records, 1800-1900 Hello is anyone interested in selling a copy of this book?  One is available online for $46.00.  I think he is price gouging.  I would be interested to obtain a copy if one is available! Thanks! Sandy ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jan - Thank you for your reply. I have the death certificate and it indicates his parents were Cornelius and Mary. Understand the death certificate was from 1884 and the information was provided by his wife. It does make sense since his oldest children were named Mary and Cornelius. I has some tell me a long time ago to check the Kilfinane area but I have not had any success locating any records. Patrick married Catherine O'Neill - presumabely in Morrisians, New York in about 1867. She would have been 12-13 years old and he would have been about 27. Kate survived until 1925 when she passed away - reported at the age of 70 on her death certificate.Her parents were listed as James O'Neil and Bridget Murphy from Ireland. There is no county listed for her birth or her parents. Any additional help is appreciated. John C Hannigan On 1/10/2013 12:13 PM, Jan Fortado wrote: > It would probably be a big help if you could get your ancestor's death record to seewho his parents were (if they were listed). If your ancestor was born c1840, many parishes did not yet keep records so you might not find his Baptism. You can alwaystry Irishroots.com to be sure. I have Hannigans who intermarried with my Kennys. These Hannigans were fromDarragh. I don't know if they were from Darragh More or Darragh Beg, but it isin the general Kilfinane area. > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It would probably be a big help if you could get your ancestor's death record to seewho his parents were (if they were listed). If your ancestor was born c1840, many parishes did not yet keep records so you might not find his Baptism. You can alwaystry Irishroots.com to be sure. I have Hannigans who intermarried with my Kennys. These Hannigans were fromDarragh. I don't know if they were from Darragh More or Darragh Beg, but it isin the general Kilfinane area.

Christina, Query for RTE series of 'The Genealogy Roadshow' Would anyone know how to check on this record that came from rootsireland.ie.: Baptism of Anne HOOKS on 15 Sep 1844, at Cooraclevin, Dunkerrin, Offaly (RC), parents: William Hooks and Margaret Nolan. No proof that these people are connected to my William, John and Owen who came to NY in 1846-1860 era. Perhaps it should be directed to a researcher on RTE's series 'The Genealogy Roadshow' We have many "HOOKS" or HOOKES" coming from this area. The proven ones were three brothers marrying in the parish of Banagher and Cloghan, County Offaly. All listed on LDS Film # 1279226, Roman Catholic records. Their parents presumed (not proven) Roger(could be William) Hooks and Catherine Martin. William Hooks and Joanne Coughlin 03 Aug 1823 John Hooks and Margaret Butler 16 Nov 1830 John (really Owen) (my great grandfather) 02 Feb 1846. married to Rebecca Flattery Catherine Hooks and John Flynn, about 1846-1850 before coming to NY, marriage date not proven. Many other siblings of the above, but they married in NY City or Greene Co, NY This is a story that I have many questions about. Could someone tell me if the Ireland Genealogy Project would like to work on this mystery? They were tanners until they earned money for some land or find a different employment. Please ask questions by return email. All the wives of the Hooks seem to be from well-known families in the Banagher, Shinrone area. Thanks, Corrine