Thank you for sharing Megan. Maggie the Dub On 21 Jan 2013, at 09:13, "Jennifer Smit" <jayarsmit@ntlworld.com> wrote: Thank you Megan - the date is in my diary! Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: Megan McKenzie Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 7:28 AM To: IRL-LIMERICK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Free Irish records access I have just read on Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter that Findmypast.ie is making 21 million Birth, Marriage and Death Records available FREE on THURSDAY 24th January. Hope you all find a missing link. Megan (in Australia). -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 187 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In addition to the FREE "Irish History Day" in the Eastman's newsletter, is this article about 50GB of FREE cloud storage. Every family history researcher needs some secure FREE cloud storage and I find this one to be very interesting in their offering of 50GB free. It uses the 2048-bitkey so it is UBER secure for storing data. Check it out - http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2013/01/megaconz-offers-50-gigabytes-of-storage-in-the-cloud-for-free.html This is not a referral service (at least I don't find anything on their site to indicate such. If 50GB is not enough, they offer PAID plans up to 4 terabytes (800 times as large). BTW, Dropbox only offers 2GB (without referral credits), Google Drive offers 5GB and SkyDrive by Microsoft offers only 7GB.

Thank you Megan - the date is in my diary! Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: Megan McKenzie Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 7:28 AM To: IRL-LIMERICK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Free Irish records access I have just read on Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter that Findmypast.ie is making 21 million Birth, Marriage and Death Records available FREE on THURSDAY 24th January. Hope you all find a missing link. Megan (in Australia). -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 187 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

all, "Findmypast.com just added 21 million new Irish birth, marriage and death records <https://www.findmypast.com/articles/world-records/full-list-of-the-irish-family-history-records> (1800s to the 1950s) to its already staggering collection of historical records. On January 24, records on findmypast.com can be accessed free of charge with a promotional code in celebration of Irish Family History Day. On January 24, we will post the promotional code on the findmypast US <http://blog.findmypast.com/> blog." the BLOG <http://blog.findmypast.com/2013/01/18/new-records-21-million-irish-birth-marriage-and-death-records/> Ted On 1/21/2013 2:28 AM, Megan McKenzie wrote: > I have just read on Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter that Findmypast.ie > is making 21 million Birth, Marriage and Death Records available FREE on > THURSDAY 24th January. > > Hope you all find a missing link. > > Megan (in Australia). > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > SPAMfighter has removed 187 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen > > > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi everyone, I am looking for children of Charles Hynes born 1784 Shanagolden and Mary Ann Canty. I have Patrick born 1803 in Whiskey Hall who married Honora Scanlan, Timothy born 2 Feb 1815 in Shanagolden who married Margaret O'Reilly and Thomas born 1816 Shanagolden. Does anyone have any info on other children? Thanks, Cheryl

I realize that my info may be of little help...but here it is : When i was growing up in Decatur, Illinois USA (Macon county) My mother mentioned a "Mrs. Canty" many times. That would have been in the 1920-1930 time frame. So there was a family with that surname that had made its way to that area etc. Good luck    Jim Clarkson Jim Clarkson jacl@sbcglobal.net --- On Sun, 1/20/13, Cheryl Moore <chezem@bigpond.net.au> wrote: From: Cheryl Moore <chezem@bigpond.net.au> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Children of Charles Hynes and Mary Ann Canty To: IRL-LIMERICK@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, January 20, 2013, 8:10 AM Hi everyone, I am looking for children of Charles Hynes born 1784 Shanagolden and Mary Ann Canty. I have Patrick born 1803 in Whiskey Hall who married Honora Scanlan,  Timothy born 2 Feb 1815 in Shanagolden who married Margaret O'Reilly and Thomas born 1816 Shanagolden. Does anyone have any info on other children? Thanks, Cheryl ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This could be interesting for some http://www.irishfaminememorial.org/en/orphans/database/?surName=white&firstName=&age=0&nativePlace=Limerick&parents=&religion=0&ship=0 ------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Monica, The 1861 census will not tell you much but look at the 1851 & then every ten years, hopefully they give you a town. Good luck. Robyn -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Monica Sutherland Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2013 8:36 PM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] KEARNEY/CARNEY Hello Robyn I am not sure about the census as he was born in 1821 and they were in England by 1845. What dates do the census returns cover? Thank you for your interest, any tips will be most welcome. Regards Monica On 19 January 2013 01:22, LESLIE WRIGHT <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Hello Monica, > > Just thought I would drop in on this conversation to say that a lot of > people from Derry went to Scotland as I have researched a family from Derry > who went to Scotland. Might be worth looking at the Scottish census. > > Robyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Monica Sutherland > Sent: Friday, 18 January 2013 11:08 PM > To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] KEARNEY/CARNEY > > Hi Patty > > Yip, I am in SA. I have been looking through quite a few Church registers > here and have found quite a lot. My biggest nightmare are my Irish > ancestors and, to make it more complicated, the one now could have > originally come from Scotland and not Derry. I also had a French problem > but that has, after donkey's years more or less got sorted out. > Are you in PE? If so perhaps you could check out the Catholic Church there > for William Harold and Ann McCoy's children though, I believe, she fell out > with the Priest and her latter children were all baptised in the Anglican > Church. Likewise, if there is anything you would like me to keep my eyes > open for, I will be only too happy to do so. > > Kind regards > Monica > > On 18 January 2013 08:27, Patty Myers <pattym@frontlineum.co.za> wrote: > > > Hi Monica > > I'm in the same boat as you as far as the brick wall is concerned. I > have > > managed to obtain quite a bit of information from the Catholic Diocese in > > Port Elizabeth but it's everything that happened here. I know it's very > > difficult to get info in Ireland and everything was only recorded after > > 1864. Best we just KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON. > > What are you stuck with, maybe I can help on this side. Are you also in > > SA? > > Regards > > Patty > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Monica > Sutherland > > Sent: 17 January 2013 04:32 PM > > To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] KEARNEY/CARNEY > > > > Hi Patty > > > > I can't help you with your search but I just wanted to mention that my > > great > > grandparents also came out on the 'Tudor' and lived in Port Elizabeth. > > William Harold was from Derry but Ann McCoy, his wife, was from Limerick. > > There seems to have been quite a number of passengers from Limerick. They > > also had some of the children christened in the same church as yours. > > Unfortunately I have hit a brick wall as far as my crowd are concerned > but, > > if I come across anything useful, I will let you know. > > > > Regards > > Monica > > > > On 17 January 2013 13:44, Patty Myers <pattym@frontlineum.co.za> wrote: > > > > > Hi there > > > > > > I'm someone out there can help me. > > > > > > My great great grandmother Bridget Kearney/Carney age 18 came over from > > > Ireland to South Africa in 1861 on the ship the Coldstream II. With > her > > > on > > > the ship were Edmond/Edmund Kearney age 22 (they were both single), > > > John age > > > 26 with his wife Mary 25 (maiden name unknown). I don't know if they > > > were siblings or cousins. Opposite the entry for John it shows FROM: > > LIMERICK. > > > They were all coming to a Patrick Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now.Patrick Kearney age 24 came over with his wife Catherine > > > Shaughnessy age > > > 20 on the ship Tudor in 1860 (so this is the one the above came over > to). > > > With them on the ship were James Kearney age 26 and Margaret Dwyer > > > (they only married after they arrived). > > > > > > > > > > > > There was also a John Kearney age 27 from Nicolas Street, Limerick > > > that came over in 1864 to a Mary Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have found a Death Notice here for James Kearney and Margaret Dwyer > > > but they have recorded it as CARNEY. I'm not sure if maybe the Irish > > > pronunciation made them write it as it sounded. Margaret was present > > > at his death but she couldn't write so she made her mark with an X. > > > > > > On his Death Notice it states that he was from Broadford Co. Clare and > > > his parents are recorded as Michael Carney and Mary Naughton. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am convinced that they are all related as the marriages and baptisms > > > that took place for all them at the St Augustine's Catholic Church in > > > Port Elizabeth show them as witnesses to these events. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am desperately trying to find out who Bridget's parents were and > > > where she was born and baptised. The fact that Limerick is mentioned > > > makes me think that maybe the whole family came from there. > > > > > > > > > > > > All help will be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > > Patty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ====================== > > > Query Board > > > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ====================== > > Query Board > > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ====================== > > Query Board > > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello again, The 1841 census will not tell you much but look at the 1851 & then the 1861 & so on -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Monica Sutherland Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2013 8:36 PM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] KEARNEY/CARNEY Hello Robyn I am not sure about the census as he was born in 1821 and they were in England by 1845. What dates do the census returns cover? Thank you for your interest, any tips will be most welcome. Regards Monica On 19 January 2013 01:22, LESLIE WRIGHT <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Hello Monica, > > Just thought I would drop in on this conversation to say that a lot of > people from Derry went to Scotland as I have researched a family from Derry > who went to Scotland. Might be worth looking at the Scottish census. > > Robyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Monica Sutherland > Sent: Friday, 18 January 2013 11:08 PM > To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] KEARNEY/CARNEY > > Hi Patty > > Yip, I am in SA. I have been looking through quite a few Church registers > here and have found quite a lot. My biggest nightmare are my Irish > ancestors and, to make it more complicated, the one now could have > originally come from Scotland and not Derry. I also had a French problem > but that has, after donkey's years more or less got sorted out. > Are you in PE? If so perhaps you could check out the Catholic Church there > for William Harold and Ann McCoy's children though, I believe, she fell out > with the Priest and her latter children were all baptised in the Anglican > Church. Likewise, if there is anything you would like me to keep my eyes > open for, I will be only too happy to do so. > > Kind regards > Monica > > On 18 January 2013 08:27, Patty Myers <pattym@frontlineum.co.za> wrote: > > > Hi Monica > > I'm in the same boat as you as far as the brick wall is concerned. I > have > > managed to obtain quite a bit of information from the Catholic Diocese in > > Port Elizabeth but it's everything that happened here. I know it's very > > difficult to get info in Ireland and everything was only recorded after > > 1864. Best we just KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON. > > What are you stuck with, maybe I can help on this side. Are you also in > > SA? > > Regards > > Patty > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Monica > Sutherland > > Sent: 17 January 2013 04:32 PM > > To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] KEARNEY/CARNEY > > > > Hi Patty > > > > I can't help you with your search but I just wanted to mention that my > > great > > grandparents also came out on the 'Tudor' and lived in Port Elizabeth. > > William Harold was from Derry but Ann McCoy, his wife, was from Limerick. > > There seems to have been quite a number of passengers from Limerick. They > > also had some of the children christened in the same church as yours. > > Unfortunately I have hit a brick wall as far as my crowd are concerned > but, > > if I come across anything useful, I will let you know. > > > > Regards > > Monica > > > > On 17 January 2013 13:44, Patty Myers <pattym@frontlineum.co.za> wrote: > > > > > Hi there > > > > > > I'm someone out there can help me. > > > > > > My great great grandmother Bridget Kearney/Carney age 18 came over from > > > Ireland to South Africa in 1861 on the ship the Coldstream II. With > her > > > on > > > the ship were Edmond/Edmund Kearney age 22 (they were both single), > > > John age > > > 26 with his wife Mary 25 (maiden name unknown). I don't know if they > > > were siblings or cousins. Opposite the entry for John it shows FROM: > > LIMERICK. > > > They were all coming to a Patrick Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now.Patrick Kearney age 24 came over with his wife Catherine > > > Shaughnessy age > > > 20 on the ship Tudor in 1860 (so this is the one the above came over > to). > > > With them on the ship were James Kearney age 26 and Margaret Dwyer > > > (they only married after they arrived). > > > > > > > > > > > > There was also a John Kearney age 27 from Nicolas Street, Limerick > > > that came over in 1864 to a Mary Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have found a Death Notice here for James Kearney and Margaret Dwyer > > > but they have recorded it as CARNEY. I'm not sure if maybe the Irish > > > pronunciation made them write it as it sounded. Margaret was present > > > at his death but she couldn't write so she made her mark with an X. > > > > > > On his Death Notice it states that he was from Broadford Co. Clare and > > > his parents are recorded as Michael Carney and Mary Naughton. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am convinced that they are all related as the marriages and baptisms > > > that took place for all them at the St Augustine's Catholic Church in > > > Port Elizabeth show them as witnesses to these events. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am desperately trying to find out who Bridget's parents were and > > > where she was born and baptised. The fact that Limerick is mentioned > > > makes me think that maybe the whole family came from there. > > > > > > > > > > > > All help will be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > > Patty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ====================== > > > Query Board > > > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ====================== > > Query Board > > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ====================== > > Query Board > > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Robyn I am not sure about the census as he was born in 1821 and they were in England by 1845. What dates do the census returns cover? Thank you for your interest, any tips will be most welcome. Regards Monica On 19 January 2013 01:22, LESLIE WRIGHT <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Hello Monica, > > Just thought I would drop in on this conversation to say that a lot of > people from Derry went to Scotland as I have researched a family from Derry > who went to Scotland. Might be worth looking at the Scottish census. > > Robyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Monica Sutherland > Sent: Friday, 18 January 2013 11:08 PM > To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] KEARNEY/CARNEY > > Hi Patty > > Yip, I am in SA. I have been looking through quite a few Church registers > here and have found quite a lot. My biggest nightmare are my Irish > ancestors and, to make it more complicated, the one now could have > originally come from Scotland and not Derry. I also had a French problem > but that has, after donkey's years more or less got sorted out. > Are you in PE? If so perhaps you could check out the Catholic Church there > for William Harold and Ann McCoy's children though, I believe, she fell out > with the Priest and her latter children were all baptised in the Anglican > Church. Likewise, if there is anything you would like me to keep my eyes > open for, I will be only too happy to do so. > > Kind regards > Monica > > On 18 January 2013 08:27, Patty Myers <pattym@frontlineum.co.za> wrote: > > > Hi Monica > > I'm in the same boat as you as far as the brick wall is concerned. I > have > > managed to obtain quite a bit of information from the Catholic Diocese in > > Port Elizabeth but it's everything that happened here. I know it's very > > difficult to get info in Ireland and everything was only recorded after > > 1864. Best we just KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON. > > What are you stuck with, maybe I can help on this side. Are you also in > > SA? > > Regards > > Patty > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Monica > Sutherland > > Sent: 17 January 2013 04:32 PM > > To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] KEARNEY/CARNEY > > > > Hi Patty > > > > I can't help you with your search but I just wanted to mention that my > > great > > grandparents also came out on the 'Tudor' and lived in Port Elizabeth. > > William Harold was from Derry but Ann McCoy, his wife, was from Limerick. > > There seems to have been quite a number of passengers from Limerick. They > > also had some of the children christened in the same church as yours. > > Unfortunately I have hit a brick wall as far as my crowd are concerned > but, > > if I come across anything useful, I will let you know. > > > > Regards > > Monica > > > > On 17 January 2013 13:44, Patty Myers <pattym@frontlineum.co.za> wrote: > > > > > Hi there > > > > > > I'm someone out there can help me. > > > > > > My great great grandmother Bridget Kearney/Carney age 18 came over from > > > Ireland to South Africa in 1861 on the ship the Coldstream II. With > her > > > on > > > the ship were Edmond/Edmund Kearney age 22 (they were both single), > > > John age > > > 26 with his wife Mary 25 (maiden name unknown). I don't know if they > > > were siblings or cousins. Opposite the entry for John it shows FROM: > > LIMERICK. > > > They were all coming to a Patrick Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now.Patrick Kearney age 24 came over with his wife Catherine > > > Shaughnessy age > > > 20 on the ship Tudor in 1860 (so this is the one the above came over > to). > > > With them on the ship were James Kearney age 26 and Margaret Dwyer > > > (they only married after they arrived). > > > > > > > > > > > > There was also a John Kearney age 27 from Nicolas Street, Limerick > > > that came over in 1864 to a Mary Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have found a Death Notice here for James Kearney and Margaret Dwyer > > > but they have recorded it as CARNEY. I'm not sure if maybe the Irish > > > pronunciation made them write it as it sounded. Margaret was present > > > at his death but she couldn't write so she made her mark with an X. > > > > > > On his Death Notice it states that he was from Broadford Co. Clare and > > > his parents are recorded as Michael Carney and Mary Naughton. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am convinced that they are all related as the marriages and baptisms > > > that took place for all them at the St Augustine's Catholic Church in > > > Port Elizabeth show them as witnesses to these events. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am desperately trying to find out who Bridget's parents were and > > > where she was born and baptised. The fact that Limerick is mentioned > > > makes me think that maybe the whole family came from there. > > > > > > > > > > > > All help will be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > > Patty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ====================== > > > Query Board > > > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ====================== > > Query Board > > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ====================== > > Query Board > > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Monica, Just thought I would drop in on this conversation to say that a lot of people from Derry went to Scotland as I have researched a family from Derry who went to Scotland. Might be worth looking at the Scottish census. Robyn -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Monica Sutherland Sent: Friday, 18 January 2013 11:08 PM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] KEARNEY/CARNEY Hi Patty Yip, I am in SA. I have been looking through quite a few Church registers here and have found quite a lot. My biggest nightmare are my Irish ancestors and, to make it more complicated, the one now could have originally come from Scotland and not Derry. I also had a French problem but that has, after donkey's years more or less got sorted out. Are you in PE? If so perhaps you could check out the Catholic Church there for William Harold and Ann McCoy's children though, I believe, she fell out with the Priest and her latter children were all baptised in the Anglican Church. Likewise, if there is anything you would like me to keep my eyes open for, I will be only too happy to do so. Kind regards Monica On 18 January 2013 08:27, Patty Myers <pattym@frontlineum.co.za> wrote: > Hi Monica > I'm in the same boat as you as far as the brick wall is concerned. I have > managed to obtain quite a bit of information from the Catholic Diocese in > Port Elizabeth but it's everything that happened here. I know it's very > difficult to get info in Ireland and everything was only recorded after > 1864. Best we just KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON. > What are you stuck with, maybe I can help on this side. Are you also in > SA? > Regards > Patty > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Monica Sutherland > Sent: 17 January 2013 04:32 PM > To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] KEARNEY/CARNEY > > Hi Patty > > I can't help you with your search but I just wanted to mention that my > great > grandparents also came out on the 'Tudor' and lived in Port Elizabeth. > William Harold was from Derry but Ann McCoy, his wife, was from Limerick. > There seems to have been quite a number of passengers from Limerick. They > also had some of the children christened in the same church as yours. > Unfortunately I have hit a brick wall as far as my crowd are concerned but, > if I come across anything useful, I will let you know. > > Regards > Monica > > On 17 January 2013 13:44, Patty Myers <pattym@frontlineum.co.za> wrote: > > > Hi there > > > > I'm someone out there can help me. > > > > My great great grandmother Bridget Kearney/Carney age 18 came over from > > Ireland to South Africa in 1861 on the ship the Coldstream II. With her > > on > > the ship were Edmond/Edmund Kearney age 22 (they were both single), > > John age > > 26 with his wife Mary 25 (maiden name unknown). I don't know if they > > were siblings or cousins. Opposite the entry for John it shows FROM: > LIMERICK. > > They were all coming to a Patrick Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > > > > > Now.Patrick Kearney age 24 came over with his wife Catherine > > Shaughnessy age > > 20 on the ship Tudor in 1860 (so this is the one the above came over to). > > With them on the ship were James Kearney age 26 and Margaret Dwyer > > (they only married after they arrived). > > > > > > > > There was also a John Kearney age 27 from Nicolas Street, Limerick > > that came over in 1864 to a Mary Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > > > > > I have found a Death Notice here for James Kearney and Margaret Dwyer > > but they have recorded it as CARNEY. I'm not sure if maybe the Irish > > pronunciation made them write it as it sounded. Margaret was present > > at his death but she couldn't write so she made her mark with an X. > > > > On his Death Notice it states that he was from Broadford Co. Clare and > > his parents are recorded as Michael Carney and Mary Naughton. > > > > > > > > I am convinced that they are all related as the marriages and baptisms > > that took place for all them at the St Augustine's Catholic Church in > > Port Elizabeth show them as witnesses to these events. > > > > > > > > I am desperately trying to find out who Bridget's parents were and > > where she was born and baptised. The fact that Limerick is mentioned > > makes me think that maybe the whole family came from there. > > > > > > > > All help will be greatly appreciated. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Patty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ====================== > > Query Board > > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Mary Ellen! I too have since found that the length of voyage varied greatly, could be as short as 14 days (even for NON steam ships such as Grinnell's ship "Patrick Henry") but as long as a month depending. I know for sure that the ship "Rock Light" did NOT stop anywhere along the way...she went directly from Liverpool to New York City. So it seems that a voyage of around 28 days was fairly 'reasonable' or average -- learn something new every day :-) Regards, Kathy A few of the Surnames of Irish born immgrants on the Sep 1856 voyage of the ship "Rock Light" from Liverpool to New York City: JONES, JAMESON, POWELL, WELLS, MOORE, ROSE, GILL, EDGAR, KELLEY, NICHOLS, VINCHY, FENETHESTON, KIRBY, SHANAHAN, BLACKBURNE. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Ellen Chambers" <maryln61@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Ship "Rock Light" to New York City / Passengers from Limerick / Michael SHANAHAN / John KIRBY family Transatlantic steamships began in 1840. Cunard of Halifax was the owner of the first 4 or 5 vessels. Some were side wheelers. Per the article I GOOGLED the travel time was about 3 weeks. However, one would assume weather would be an issue and perhaps NYC was the final destination with a stop in Canada or Newfoundland or Nova Scotia.

Andy, My bad, a slip of the tongue!! The ship Rock Light was indeed a 2,000 ton sailing ship built in Bath, Maine, NOT a STEAMship. The term packet-ship simply meant that they departed on a regular schedule and they often carried the mail. (Grinnell's Swallowtail line started out in early days leaving on a monthly basis from England to the USA but at this particular period, their ships were leaving on a weekly basis from Liverpool). The sail-packets were were eventually replaced by steamships, and the phrase "steam packet" became common in the mid-1800s (guess this is why I slipped up - too much reading fine newsprint late at night-lol!) Still, it seems to me a little much that a crossing took an entire month, particularly as I know that some of Grinnell's ships (for ex. the "Patrick Henry" made the east bound passage from Liverpool to New York often in 14 days or less). Just trying to get a feel for what it was like for my ancestor on his particular trip; find it odd that the passengers wrote that rather "glowing" card of thanks about a voyage where 3 people died - not sure I'd have thought a voyage where you lost three people was all that terrific! Kathy A few of the Surnames of Irish born immgrants on the Sep 1856 voyage of the ship "Rock Light" from Liverpool to New York City: JONES, JAMESON, POWELL, WELLS, MOORE, ROSE, GILL, EDGAR, KELLEY, NICHOLS, VINCHY, FENETHESTON, KIRBY, SHANAHAN, BLACKBURNE. ====================== Kathy: What makes you think the "Rock Light" was a steamship? In 1856??? A seaman even fell from the maintopgallant yard. Isn't that a yard-arm for a sail? Andy,

Hi Jennifer I don't think William Hughes was in the military. If he was no one has ever mentioned it, but maybe I should have a look anyway. Thanks for that idea. His son John, born in Port Elizabeth, was a blacksmith. I have a record of William on the PE Census of 1875 which states him as being a labourer. The Carney/Kearney all came over with the Aided Immigration to the Cape. This elusive Anne Maria LaTouche - well she is something else. I don't think we will ever find her. Was very hot and humid this morning but the wind has picked up and it looks like we are going to have some rain. Thank heavens!!! Yesterday was about 35 degrees - just as well we have aircon. Regards Patty -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Smit Sent: 18 January 2013 04:09 PM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] KEARNEY/CARNEY Hello Patty, I also have South African Irish ancestors and when I started my research I had no idea how/when/why they had come to the Eastern Cape. It turns out they they all came as military men. However that was some 30 years before your dates so it may not be the same in your case. Have you investigated that line of inquiry? Hope it's not TOO hot in Durban today - really freezing here. Jennifer Smit Folkestone, Kent -----Original Message----- From: Patty Myers Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 1:21 PM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] KEARNEY/CARNEY Hi Monica No, unfortunately I'm not in PE, I live in Durban. But you can contact Helena at the Catholic Diocese - email address: archives@aerosat.co.za . She will look up for you but they charge R80.00 per person per parish. Can get quite pricey. That's how I got all my marriage and baptism records. She will need dates though so if you can give her those, she will be too happy to do it for you. I also have a "French Connection" so to speak. My aunt says that my other great great grandmother was a LaTouche, originally from France and then Ireland. Well there are loads of LaTouche's in Ireland, mainly Dublin, but I can't find an Anne Maria. I even contacted the Latouche legacy but they have no trace of her either. Another brick wall. I'm also looking for a William Hughes (my great great grandfather) who was also from Ireland but where in Ireland I have no idea. I don't know why he ended up here either. He married Bridget Kearney/Carney. And so the mystery continues...................... Regards Patty ----- ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Monica No, unfortunately I'm not in PE, I live in Durban. But you can contact Helena at the Catholic Diocese - email address: archives@aerosat.co.za . She will look up for you but they charge R80.00 per person per parish. Can get quite pricey. That's how I got all my marriage and baptism records. She will need dates though so if you can give her those, she will be too happy to do it for you. I also have a "French Connection" so to speak. My aunt says that my other great great grandmother was a LaTouche, originally from France and then Ireland. Well there are loads of LaTouche's in Ireland, mainly Dublin, but I can't find an Anne Maria. I even contacted the Latouche legacy but they have no trace of her either. Another brick wall. I'm also looking for a William Hughes (my great great grandfather) who was also from Ireland but where in Ireland I have no idea. I don't know why he ended up here either. He married Bridget Kearney/Carney. And so the mystery continues...................... Regards Patty -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Monica Sutherland Sent: 18 January 2013 03:08 PM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] KEARNEY/CARNEY Hi Patty Yip, I am in SA. I have been looking through quite a few Church registers here and have found quite a lot. My biggest nightmare are my Irish ancestors and, to make it more complicated, the one now could have originally come from Scotland and not Derry. I also had a French problem but that has, after donkey's years more or less got sorted out. Are you in PE? If so perhaps you could check out the Catholic Church there for William Harold and Ann McCoy's children though, I believe, she fell out with the Priest and her latter children were all baptised in the Anglican Church. Likewise, if there is anything you would like me to keep my eyes open for, I will be only too happy to do so. Kind regards Monica On 18 January 2013 08:27, Patty Myers <pattym@frontlineum.co.za> wrote: > Hi Monica > I'm in the same boat as you as far as the brick wall is concerned. I > have managed to obtain quite a bit of information from the Catholic > Diocese in Port Elizabeth but it's everything that happened here. I > know it's very difficult to get info in Ireland and everything was > only recorded after 1864. Best we just KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON. > What are you stuck with, maybe I can help on this side. Are you also > in SA? > Regards > Patty > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Monica > Sutherland > Sent: 17 January 2013 04:32 PM > To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] KEARNEY/CARNEY > > Hi Patty > > I can't help you with your search but I just wanted to mention that my > great grandparents also came out on the 'Tudor' and lived in Port > Elizabeth. > William Harold was from Derry but Ann McCoy, his wife, was from Limerick. > There seems to have been quite a number of passengers from Limerick. > They also had some of the children christened in the same church as yours. > Unfortunately I have hit a brick wall as far as my crowd are concerned > but, if I come across anything useful, I will let you know. > > Regards > Monica > > On 17 January 2013 13:44, Patty Myers <pattym@frontlineum.co.za> wrote: > > > Hi there > > > > I'm someone out there can help me. > > > > My great great grandmother Bridget Kearney/Carney age 18 came over from > > Ireland to South Africa in 1861 on the ship the Coldstream II. With her > > on > > the ship were Edmond/Edmund Kearney age 22 (they were both single), > > John age > > 26 with his wife Mary 25 (maiden name unknown). I don't know if > > they were siblings or cousins. Opposite the entry for John it shows FROM: > LIMERICK. > > They were all coming to a Patrick Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > > > > > Now.Patrick Kearney age 24 came over with his wife Catherine > > Shaughnessy age > > 20 on the ship Tudor in 1860 (so this is the one the above came over to). > > With them on the ship were James Kearney age 26 and Margaret Dwyer > > (they only married after they arrived). > > > > > > > > There was also a John Kearney age 27 from Nicolas Street, Limerick > > that came over in 1864 to a Mary Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > > > > > I have found a Death Notice here for James Kearney and Margaret > > Dwyer but they have recorded it as CARNEY. I'm not sure if maybe > > the Irish pronunciation made them write it as it sounded. Margaret > > was present at his death but she couldn't write so she made her mark with an X. > > > > On his Death Notice it states that he was from Broadford Co. Clare > > and his parents are recorded as Michael Carney and Mary Naughton. > > > > > > > > I am convinced that they are all related as the marriages and > > baptisms that took place for all them at the St Augustine's Catholic > > Church in Port Elizabeth show them as witnesses to these events. > > > > > > > > I am desperately trying to find out who Bridget's parents were and > > where she was born and baptised. The fact that Limerick is > > mentioned makes me think that maybe the whole family came from there. > > > > > > > > All help will be greatly appreciated. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Patty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ====================== > > Query Board > > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ====================== Query Board http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Patty Yip, I am in SA. I have been looking through quite a few Church registers here and have found quite a lot. My biggest nightmare are my Irish ancestors and, to make it more complicated, the one now could have originally come from Scotland and not Derry. I also had a French problem but that has, after donkey's years more or less got sorted out. Are you in PE? If so perhaps you could check out the Catholic Church there for William Harold and Ann McCoy's children though, I believe, she fell out with the Priest and her latter children were all baptised in the Anglican Church. Likewise, if there is anything you would like me to keep my eyes open for, I will be only too happy to do so. Kind regards Monica On 18 January 2013 08:27, Patty Myers <pattym@frontlineum.co.za> wrote: > Hi Monica > I'm in the same boat as you as far as the brick wall is concerned. I have > managed to obtain quite a bit of information from the Catholic Diocese in > Port Elizabeth but it's everything that happened here. I know it's very > difficult to get info in Ireland and everything was only recorded after > 1864. Best we just KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON. > What are you stuck with, maybe I can help on this side. Are you also in > SA? > Regards > Patty > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Monica Sutherland > Sent: 17 January 2013 04:32 PM > To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] KEARNEY/CARNEY > > Hi Patty > > I can't help you with your search but I just wanted to mention that my > great > grandparents also came out on the 'Tudor' and lived in Port Elizabeth. > William Harold was from Derry but Ann McCoy, his wife, was from Limerick. > There seems to have been quite a number of passengers from Limerick. They > also had some of the children christened in the same church as yours. > Unfortunately I have hit a brick wall as far as my crowd are concerned but, > if I come across anything useful, I will let you know. > > Regards > Monica > > On 17 January 2013 13:44, Patty Myers <pattym@frontlineum.co.za> wrote: > > > Hi there > > > > I'm someone out there can help me. > > > > My great great grandmother Bridget Kearney/Carney age 18 came over from > > Ireland to South Africa in 1861 on the ship the Coldstream II. With her > > on > > the ship were Edmond/Edmund Kearney age 22 (they were both single), > > John age > > 26 with his wife Mary 25 (maiden name unknown). I don't know if they > > were siblings or cousins. Opposite the entry for John it shows FROM: > LIMERICK. > > They were all coming to a Patrick Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > > > > > Now.Patrick Kearney age 24 came over with his wife Catherine > > Shaughnessy age > > 20 on the ship Tudor in 1860 (so this is the one the above came over to). > > With them on the ship were James Kearney age 26 and Margaret Dwyer > > (they only married after they arrived). > > > > > > > > There was also a John Kearney age 27 from Nicolas Street, Limerick > > that came over in 1864 to a Mary Kearney in Port Elizabeth. > > > > > > > > I have found a Death Notice here for James Kearney and Margaret Dwyer > > but they have recorded it as CARNEY. I'm not sure if maybe the Irish > > pronunciation made them write it as it sounded. Margaret was present > > at his death but she couldn't write so she made her mark with an X. > > > > On his Death Notice it states that he was from Broadford Co. Clare and > > his parents are recorded as Michael Carney and Mary Naughton. > > > > > > > > I am convinced that they are all related as the marriages and baptisms > > that took place for all them at the St Augustine's Catholic Church in > > Port Elizabeth show them as witnesses to these events. > > > > > > > > I am desperately trying to find out who Bridget's parents were and > > where she was born and baptised. The fact that Limerick is mentioned > > makes me think that maybe the whole family came from there. > > > > > > > > All help will be greatly appreciated. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Patty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ====================== > > Query Board > > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ====================== > Query Board > http://www.igp-web.com/boards.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My email address is just about to run out, can you please change my email address for the list from: thelords@tranquilearth.com to dragonmoon77@bigpond.com Thank you Penny

Hello Patty, I also have South African Irish ancestors and when I started my research I had no idea how/when/why they had come to the Eastern Cape. It turns out they they all came as military men. However that was some 30 years before your dates so it may not be the same in your case. Have you investigated that line of inquiry? Hope it's not TOO hot in Durban today - really freezing here. Jennifer Smit Folkestone, Kent -----Original Message----- From: Patty Myers Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 1:21 PM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] KEARNEY/CARNEY Hi Monica No, unfortunately I'm not in PE, I live in Durban. But you can contact Helena at the Catholic Diocese - email address: archives@aerosat.co.za . She will look up for you but they charge R80.00 per person per parish. Can get quite pricey. That's how I got all my marriage and baptism records. She will need dates though so if you can give her those, she will be too happy to do it for you. I also have a "French Connection" so to speak. My aunt says that my other great great grandmother was a LaTouche, originally from France and then Ireland. Well there are loads of LaTouche's in Ireland, mainly Dublin, but I can't find an Anne Maria. I even contacted the Latouche legacy but they have no trace of her either. Another brick wall. I'm also looking for a William Hughes (my great great grandfather) who was also from Ireland but where in Ireland I have no idea. I don't know why he ended up here either. He married Bridget Kearney/Carney. And so the mystery continues...................... Regards Patty -----

Kathy: What makes you think the "Rock Light" was a steamship? In 1856??? A seaman even fell from the maintopgallant yard. Isn't that a yard-arm for a sail? Andy, George Clarkson, of New York, a seaman, fell from maintopgallant yard and was> instantly killed.

Transatlantic steamships began in 1840.  Cunard of Halifax was the owner of the first 4 or 5 vessels.  Some were side wheelers.  Per the article I GOOGLED the travel time was about 3 weeks.  However, one would assume weather would be an issue and perhaps NYC was the final destination with a stop in Canada or Newfoundland or Nova Scotia.