Thank you On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 2:05 PM, <Kroppyboy@aol.com> wrote: > COULD BE BALLINA CO MAYO IRELAND > > > In a message dated 2/19/2008 2:03:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > barbaraann.aye@gmail.com writes: > > Hi John > > Thank you. Researching my Irish roots is so much more difficult than I > had > hoped for. I appreciate your time and effort. > > Barbara-Ann > > On Feb 18, 2008 1:33 PM, John Walton <vabre1@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > Hi Barbara-Ann, > > > > I have looked at the twelve counties in Leinster and the nearest I can > > come > > up with is the location of Ballymana which is in Co.Dublin. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > John...Sydney > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "barbara-ann aye" <barbaraann.aye@gmail.com> > > To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:34 AM > > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Langan records > > > > > > > Hi John > > > > > > Thanks for the information. This will give me a starting point. > > > > > > I have a marriage record for a Blaney which might tie into my clan, > > still > > > working on that. > > > In the record it states that he was from Co. Leinster, Ireland and > one > > > hospital record states that he was from > > > Ballyan or Ballyna, Ireland. The hospital record was ddifficult to > read > > so > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > ( > http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 2:05 PM, <Kroppyboy@aol.com> wrote: > COULD BE BALLINA CO MAYO IRELAND > > > In a message dated 2/19/2008 2:03:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > barbaraann.aye@gmail.com writes: > > Hi John > > Thank you. Researching my Irish roots is so much more difficult than I > had > hoped for. I appreciate your time and effort. > > Barbara-Ann > > On Feb 18, 2008 1:33 PM, John Walton <vabre1@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > Hi Barbara-Ann, > > > > I have looked at the twelve counties in Leinster and the nearest I can > > come > > up with is the location of Ballymana which is in Co.Dublin. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > John...Sydney > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "barbara-ann aye" <barbaraann.aye@gmail.com> > > To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:34 AM > > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Langan records > > > > > > > Hi John > > > > > > Thanks for the information. This will give me a starting point. > > > > > > I have a marriage record for a Blaney which might tie into my clan, > > still > > > working on that. > > > In the record it states that he was from Co. Leinster, Ireland and > one > > > hospital record states that he was from > > > Ballyan or Ballyna, Ireland. The hospital record was ddifficult to > read > > so > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > ( > http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The Bishop of Limerick has put a hold on all church films in his control area. He objects to the LDS Practice of doing baptisms and confirmations for their dead ancestors to seal them in an eternal chain together. They have gotten a lot of flack for their beliefs. I find it no different than the Jehovah witnesses and how many people they actually will be saved, the Catholic belief in Limbo, or the Shakers, who believe in strict celibacy and no giving in marriage. It is simply a religious belief, If it is not your belief it means nothing to you , right? I feel bad that the Bishop cut millions off from records that would unite families and give honor to Ireland as an ancestral home of billions of people. I have been trying to piece my husband's family together for 22 years. Those are the records I need. I know his father, Grandfather and the name of his Great Grandfather. They were catholic, so you all know how many records were compiled on that side of the religious line and why. I guess I will have to wait till the Bishop dies and hope for a Bishop more concerned with families gathering and making Ireland the point of their beginnings, then finding threat in some church ceremony which they don't even believe in. Till then we are at his mercy, or have to spend a lot of money to hire a professional there to do the work. The LDS Library had been my life line and they are in the process of putting histories, books, genealogies and amazing items in the huge vaults in Cottonwood Canyon that have not had the ability to do before now. Copies of some of the books that will be on line were burnt when Hitler burnt the books. The librarians have always been very helpful and never, ever preachy. Let them believe as they do. Because of those beliefs, they will be freely sharing with us, on line, in the next years, incredible amounts of new information from around the world. That to me is a win, win situation.!. Candace Punch.

Does anyone know if the films of the parish registers, for the various counties in Ireland that are at the National Library, are available through the LDS Family History Centers in the U.S.? Or are these films only available in Ireland? Thanks. LuAnn > I am not a member of the LDS Church, however I have used their services on many occasions, and I think we should be thanking them for their work. The time and effort to film records is huge (and I have done this for our own Church records) and I guess quite expensive, however the Church doesn't charge for you to view the film. The only cost incurred is when postage has to be paid, and I by choice always make a small donation towards the electricity etc. at their reading room. I guess they believe that for the effort they have made to have the millions of records available throughout the world they deserve to be able to copyright that film. I support that concept. > > I am currently transcribing online thousands of records which they intend (at least that is my understanding) to make available online free, so let's be grateful to all who volunteer in whatever capacity to help us in our research. > > Megan McKenzie > South Australia. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

The Bishop of Limerick has put a hold on all church films in his control area. He objects to the LDS Practice of doing baptisms and confirmations for their dead ancestors to seal them in an eternal chain together. They have gotten a lot of flack for their beliefs. I find it no different than the Jehovah witnesses and how many people they actually will be saved, the Catholic belief in Limbo, or the Shakers, who believe in strict celibacy and no giving in marriage. It is simply a religious belief, If it is not your belief it means nothing to you , right? I feel bad that the Bishop cut millions off from records that would unite families and give honor to Ireland as an ancestral home of billions of people. I have been trying to piece my husband's family together for 22 years. Those are the records I need. I know his father, Grandfather and the name of his Great Grandfather. They were catholic, so you all know how many records were compiled on that side of the religious line and why. I guess I will have to wait till the Bishop dies and hope for a Bishop more concerned with families gathering and making Ireland the point of their beginnings, then finding threat in some church ceremony which they don't even believe in. Till then we are at his mercy, or have to spend a lot of money to hire a professional there to do the work. The LDS Library had been my life line and they are in the process of putting histories, books, genealogies and amazing items in the huge vaults in Cottonwood Canyon that have not had the ability to do before now. Copies of some of the books that will be on line were burnt when Hitler burnt the books. The librarians have always been very helpful and never, ever preachy. Let them believe as they do. Because of those beliefs, they will be freely sharing with us, on line, in the next years, incredible amounts of new information from around the world. That to me is a win, win situation.!. Candace Punch.

I too have used the LDS records and appreciate that they are there to use. However, literally everyone of my relatives that I have found has been recorded with incorrect information, so though I use it, I basically just use them for a guide line, too many inaccuracies. I looked for my great grandmother for about a year using their records only to find out the person they had was NOT my greatgrandmother..A telephone call to them proved fruitless as they were not willing to even entertain the idea that they were inaccurate. I was in St. George Utah last year and had the same problem..so my suggestion would be "dont put all your eggs in one basket". I will probably get a lot of negative responses to this post, but I found them to be very rude and uncooperative left a bad impression with me. As far as copyright. how can one copyright something they got from public resources? I feel they are my families records they belong my the family, Cris Atwater California

Hi Barbara-Ann which LANGAN'S are you researchig? Cris Atwater California

I have been user of the services available from the LDS Church for about 25 years and find that they are probably the institution that has done the most for genealogical research anywhere in the world. I don't believe that they have any copyright on the material in their posession, and if they do, they certainly don't enforce it. I have hundreds of copies of documents that I either obtained at my local LDS centre or which I obtained by mail from the main library in Salt Lake City. If there is an impediment to obtaining copies of parish records at the National Library, I suspect that it's the Catholic Church. -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] Sent: February 21, 2008 4:36 AM To: IRL-LIMERICK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] LDS & films I am not a member of the LDS Church, however I have used their services on many occasions, and I think we should be thanking them for their work. The time and effort to film records is huge (and I have done this for our own Church records) and I guess quite expensive, however the Church doesn't charge for you to view the film. The only cost incurred is when postage has to be paid, and I by choice always make a small donation towards the electricity etc. at their reading room. I guess they believe that for the effort they have made to have the millions of records available throughout the world they deserve to be able to copyright that film. I support that concept. I am currently transcribing online thousands of records which they intend (at least that is my understanding) to make available online free, so let's be grateful to all who volunteer in whatever capacity to help us in our research. Megan McKenzie South Australia. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My understanding is that with a mixed marriage in Australia i.e. Catholic and Protestant they were married behind -not in front of -the altar. In an instance in my family the protestant female converted to Catholicism but they were married in the presbytery (home of the priest) rather than in the actual church in 1870 in Melbourne. Barbara.

Hello Maggie, All I have is from the 1901 census, UK, which tells me that (Dr.) Ernest Harris BEAMAN had a daughter from a first marriage. Mabel Ann was born (we believe Dublin) Ireland about 1891. Her age in the 1901 census is given as 10 years. By this time Ernest had married again in 1897. His first wife had obviously died between 1891 and 1897. Any help or suggestions will be very much appreciated. Regards, Mary (Qld. Australia) -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maggie Doyle Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2008 7:53 AM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Identify place How you doin? If you want to know anyting about street names or areas of Dublin or if a surname is prevelent here, throw the ?s out, I may be able to help. Maggie ----- Original Message ---- From: Mary <obmary@gmail.com> To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 20 February, 2008 10:35:35 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Identify place Thank you Carla, Maggie and Sean for your reply. I have had a second look at the image and I believe it is 'Ireland'. One more question, are there any directories on line for Dublin around 1888 to 1895? Regards, Mary -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sean Sheehan Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2008 2:16 AM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Identify place I believe the word is "Ireland", Dublin Sean -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maggie Doyle Sent: 19 February 2008 16:09 To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Identify place I live in Dublin. Never heard of anything with a name like that. Maybe if you get a site with old maps of Dublin it might help. Good luck. ----- Original Message ---- From: Mary O'Brien <obmary@gmail.com> To: IRL-LIMERICK@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 18 February, 2008 11:15:55 AM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Identify place Could some one help me identify a location in Dublin Co. please. On an original sheet from the 1901 census a place of birth is given as Sreland or Srcland Dublin. Could any one suggest what the actual name is and where I can find information about the town. Regards, Mary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Michael When I was there last year there was at least one machine that could print from microfilm. You would, however, need to check the rules regarding getting copies from a particular film. -- Regards Nick /Home/ http://members.iinet.net.au/~nickred/ <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Enickred/> /Sites managed/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~registryofdeeds/index.html <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Eregistryofdeeds/index.html> http://www.igrsoc.org/index.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~nickred/majuratennis/ <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Enickred/majuratennis/>

Just out of curiosity is there anypne on the list who is LDS and maybe be able shed some light on this topic or perhaps ask at your church? Cris Atwater Califonia

Judie Diocese of Killaloe. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Mason" <judith.mason@ameritech.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:52 PM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Castleconnell > Can someone tell me what diocese the church of Castleconnel is in? I > didn't see it in either Limerick or Cashel/Emly. > > Thanks, > > Judie Mason > Chicago > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thank you George, it is a bit too early for me. An English doctor married and had a daughter (born Ireland) about 1890. His wife died and he remarried about 1896 in England. I would like to track his time in Ireland if possible. Regards, Mary -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of george kelly Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2008 9:20 PM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Identify place Mary www.libraryireland.com has an online directory for 1862,if that's of any help. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary" <obmary@gmail.com> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Identify place > > Thank you Carla, Maggie and Sean for your reply. > > I have had a second look at the image and I believe it is 'Ireland'. > > One more question, are there any directories on line for Dublin around > 1888 > to 1895? > > Regards, > > Mary > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sean Sheehan > Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2008 2:16 AM > To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Identify place > > I believe the word is "Ireland", Dublin > Sean > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maggie Doyle > Sent: 19 February 2008 16:09 > To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Identify place > > I live in Dublin. Never heard of anything with a name like that. Maybe if > you get a site with old maps of Dublin it might help. Good luck. > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Mary O'Brien <obmary@gmail.com> > To: IRL-LIMERICK@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, 18 February, 2008 11:15:55 AM > Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Identify place > > Could > some > one > help > me > identify > a > location > in > Dublin > Co. > please. > > > On > an > original > sheet > from > the > 1901 > census > a > place > of > birth > is > given > as > Sreland > or > Srcland > Dublin. > > > Could > any > one > suggest > what > the > actual > name > is > and > where > I > can > find > information > about > the > town. > > > Regards, > > > Mary > > ------------------------------- > To > unsubscribe > from > the > list, > please > send > an > email > to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com > with > the > word > 'unsubscribe' > without > the > quotes > in > the > subject > and > the > body > of > the > message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know why the LDS do not have microfilm of the Limerick Diocese but apparently the National Library in Dublin does. This is a link to the page dealing with parish registers: http://www.nli.ie/en/parish-register.aspx The county of Limerick is covered to a greater or lesser extent by four RC dioceses: Limerick; Killaloe (one parish, Castleconnel); Cashel and Emly (14 parishes I think) and Cloyne (two parishes, Charleville and Freemount). The Church of Irreland structure is almost certainly different and probably conforms more to the original civil parish structure. The current RC parish structure may be different to when the registers were recorded. Parishes may have been combined or broken up or new parishes created. The same may be true of the diocese structure. I hope this is of use. On 20/02/2008, Karen McGann <imhear@comcast.net> wrote: > > thank you > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JJ Woods" <woodsjj@gmail.com> > To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] National library in Dublin > > > >I think it is a little complicated. Obviously they don't own the records > > themselves but they do claim copyright of the films. I am not sure if > that > > has any real standing in law but the Library authorities take very > strict > > view of the claim to copyright and, I believe, do not allow printing out > > of > > even one page! > > > > The same applies to the microfilm copies of the general registers of > > births, > > marriages and deaths held in the Pearse Street Library, again, honouring > > the > > LDS claim to copyright. > > > > In fairness to the library authorities, I believe these are the > conditions > > under which copies of the microfilms are made available to them by the > > LDS. > > > > The shame of the whole matter is that even still the Irish state depends > > on > > the LDS to produce microfilm of documents instead of either undertaking > > this > > work themselves or else contracting with outside agencies to produce > them > > to > > a higher standard. > > > > You are allowed to transcribe the information you want. I must confess > > that > > in the past I believed that copyright could only be claimed on something > > unique and/or creative. Badly reproduced microfilms do not enter into my > > understanding of what is unique and/or creative! > > > > > > On 20/02/2008, Karen McGann <imhear@comcast.net> wrote: > >> > >> Bring a small digital camera with you...and leave a big tip-only > joking. > >> Can you explain the copyright thing again? Do you mean the LDS owns the > >> copyright on the parish records?????? > >> I'm obviously confused! > >> Karen > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "JJ Woods" <woodsjj@gmail.com> > >> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:06 PM > >> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] National library in Dublin > >> > >> > >> > Yes in some situations and no in others. I believe there is copyright > >> > on > >> > the > >> > parish register microfilms as produced by the LDS and, again I think, > >> you > >> > cannot get those films in the room with the facility to print from > the > >> > readers, only in the room with the non-printing readers. You can get > >> > copies > >> > from books, magazines, newspapers, etc., subject to copyright laws. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On 20/02/2008, Dunleavy, Michael: #CB - BC > >> > <Dunleavy.Michael@cb-bc.gc.ca > >> > > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Would anyone know whether it is possible at the National Library to > >> make > >> >> photocopies of documents on microfilm? Thanks. > >> >> > >> >> Mike Dunleavy > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> >> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > >> the > >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> >> > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am of Irish descent and I married a non-catholic in 1965 in New Zealand. But, not all the ceremony was performed in the Church and I had to go behind into a little room to perform the last half of the ceremony and then after being married went back into the front of theChurch to sign the Registrar in front of the Congregration before being sent on our way. I was 25 and my husband was 29. I gathered from my mother that it was a normal occurrence. I have instances when my ancestors certainly fudged their age by at least two years. Researching-BURKE, LINEHAN, COLLINS, GALLERY Elaine

I wonder if it is because parts of the county of Limerick are in the Diocese of Cashel and Emly and not the Diocese of Limerick. The Diocese of Cashel and Emly does not allow access to either the original registers or to the microfilms without written permission from the Archbishop. Research is undertaken by the Tipperary Family History agency (I am not quite sure of the official name). I wouldn't hold out any hope of being allowed to photograph the images either. On 20/02/2008, Dunleavy, Michael: #CB - BC <Dunleavy.Michael@cb-bc.gc.ca> wrote: > > Thank you everyone for your responses to my question. After searching on > the National Library's website, I found the following information under > FAQs: > > "Can I order copies from the Catholic parish registers on microfilm? > > > The National Library does not provide copies of, or transcriptions from, > registers. Original and post-1880 registers are generally in the custody of > the local Parish Priest. Up-to-date parish contact detail addresses can be > obtained from the annual Irish Catholic Directory." > > > It looks like my only option will be to bring my own camera. Has anyone > tried that in the National Library and was it allowed? If so, how did the > photos turn out? Was the information in the document legible? Do I need a > special camera or lense? > > I am doing research in County Longford as well, and I was able to obtain > microfilms of all of the records available from my local LDS centre and to > make copies of all of the documents that I needed. LDS doesn't seem to have > the records for the parishes in the Diocese of Limerick where I am doing > research. Does anyone know why this is the case? > > Mike Dunleavy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dunleavy, Michael: #CB - BC > Sent: February 20, 2008 2:19 PM > To: 'irl-limerick@rootsweb.com' > Subject: RE: [IRL-LIMERICK] National library in Dublin > > > Would anyone know whether it is possible at the National Library to make > photocopies of documents on microfilm? Thanks. > > Mike Dunleavy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I think it is a little complicated. Obviously they don't own the records themselves but they do claim copyright of the films. I am not sure if that has any real standing in law but the Library authorities take very strict view of the claim to copyright and, I believe, do not allow printing out of even one page! The same applies to the microfilm copies of the general registers of births, marriages and deaths held in the Pearse Street Library, again, honouring the LDS claim to copyright. In fairness to the library authorities, I believe these are the conditions under which copies of the microfilms are made available to them by the LDS. The shame of the whole matter is that even still the Irish state depends on the LDS to produce microfilm of documents instead of either undertaking this work themselves or else contracting with outside agencies to produce them to a higher standard. You are allowed to transcribe the information you want. I must confess that in the past I believed that copyright could only be claimed on something unique and/or creative. Badly reproduced microfilms do not enter into my understanding of what is unique and/or creative! On 20/02/2008, Karen McGann <imhear@comcast.net> wrote: > > Bring a small digital camera with you...and leave a big tip-only joking. > Can you explain the copyright thing again? Do you mean the LDS owns the > copyright on the parish records?????? > I'm obviously confused! > Karen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JJ Woods" <woodsjj@gmail.com> > To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:06 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] National library in Dublin > > > > Yes in some situations and no in others. I believe there is copyright on > > the > > parish register microfilms as produced by the LDS and, again I think, > you > > cannot get those films in the room with the facility to print from the > > readers, only in the room with the non-printing readers. You can get > > copies > > from books, magazines, newspapers, etc., subject to copyright laws. > > > > > > > > On 20/02/2008, Dunleavy, Michael: #CB - BC <Dunleavy.Michael@cb-bc.gc.ca > > > > wrote: > >> > >> Would anyone know whether it is possible at the National Library to > make > >> photocopies of documents on microfilm? Thanks. > >> > >> Mike Dunleavy > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

How you doin? If you want to know anyting about street names or areas of Dublin or if a surname is prevelent here, throw the ?s out, I may be able to help. Maggie ----- Original Message ---- From: Mary <obmary@gmail.com> To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 20 February, 2008 10:35:35 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Identify place Thank you Carla, Maggie and Sean for your reply. I have had a second look at the image and I believe it is 'Ireland'. One more question, are there any directories on line for Dublin around 1888 to 1895? Regards, Mary -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sean Sheehan Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2008 2:16 AM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Identify place I believe the word is "Ireland", Dublin Sean -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maggie Doyle Sent: 19 February 2008 16:09 To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Identify place I live in Dublin. Never heard of anything with a name like that. Maybe if you get a site with old maps of Dublin it might help. Good luck. ----- Original Message ---- From: Mary O'Brien <obmary@gmail.com> To: IRL-LIMERICK@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 18 February, 2008 11:15:55 AM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Identify place Could some one help me identify a location in Dublin Co. please. On an original sheet from the 1901 census a place of birth is given as Sreland or Srcland Dublin. Could any one suggest what the actual name is and where I can find information about the town. Regards, Mary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes in some situations and no in others. I believe there is copyright on the parish register microfilms as produced by the LDS and, again I think, you cannot get those films in the room with the facility to print from the readers, only in the room with the non-printing readers. You can get copies from books, magazines, newspapers, etc., subject to copyright laws. On 20/02/2008, Dunleavy, Michael: #CB - BC <Dunleavy.Michael@cb-bc.gc.ca> wrote: > > Would anyone know whether it is possible at the National Library to make > photocopies of documents on microfilm? Thanks. > > Mike Dunleavy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >