Cris, Just stay away from their Salt Lake City Temple unless you want to convert. Pat Quaid. Phila.,PA ----- Original Message ----- From: crazyangel25@webtv.net<mailto:crazyangel25@webtv.net> To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Cc: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] LDS RECORDS, ETC. Just out of curiosity does anyone know where the LDS actually get the records they have? Do they physically go to the court houses, or hall or records or wherever they may be and look them up? I dont believe in all cases at least, that they take photgraphs of the records as suggested or they wouldnt be so inaccurate.And honestly I dont care about their copyrights. They got their information somewhere too, and if I ever managed to find even just "one" accurate piece of information from their site I would publish it on my website and dont care what their copyright laws are. Its my family. and thats my 2¢.. Cris Atwater California p.s if no one knows the answer to my question I will call the LDS temple in Oakland California and see if I can get someone who isnt rude to answer my question. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know the hows or whys of the LDS filming all the old church and civil records, but do know that more recently in Slovakia and the Czech Republic they were in negotiations for a number of years to be allowed to film. The Czech Republic did not allow filming, Slovakia did. It seems to me I recall reading that they provide the filming (preservation) free for the privilege of using the records in whatever manner they see fit. A copy of the filmed records is also provided to the institution. Indexing is another story. If the LDS indexes the records, they then own the index. That's all I have to say on this subject. Judie Mason Chicago crazyangel25@webtv.net wrote: I would seriously like to know how thet get their information. I dont know, but it would seem to me, that if we ( or I, at least) knew then maybe we could do our own research the same way, and maybe with more accurate resuts.

Hi Virginia May I ask please how you got church records for Canada? I would like to find the marriage of Ellen LANGAN and James CARRIG and have no idea how or where to even begin with Canada. Thank you Cris Atwater California

sorry again I must respectfully disagree you wrote "it does not matter who or where info is gathered from common sense demands that you have 2 seperate sources" To me yes it does matter who or where the information is gathered..As I said previous, I have all sorts of inforamtion of "my" great grandmother...unfortunately after a year or so of following leads, she wasnt MY great grandmother! and yes it does matter to me where they get the information, if anyone, not just the mormons, is going to copyright the information then dont they need to cite their source? Iam not trying to be argumentative I truly would like to know. I will say for the umpteenth time, that if they can get the records I would like to know how and where so that maybe I could do the same with my family. Just because you dont like the way a topic is going doesnt mean everyone agree and wants to halt it.I have had both negative and positive responses off list, so I do know others are interested in knowing this as well. So please, before telling everyone "you've" had enough, just use your delete key so you dont have to read the posts, we all have different interests. Cris

Thank you Carla, I think I'll give the mormon church a call on Monday and see what else I might be able to find out regarding the records and how to get them, maybe we will all have an answer. I wasn't trying to cause disharmony or an argument here, I have been chastised off list as well, I am sincerely interested in finding out how they obtain their records. For those of you who have emailed me off list to tell me what you think of my posts, I say use the delete key....I didn't email you off list and jump on you, in fact I didn't even reply to you... so please don't do it to me. Thats a bit childish. My opinion is the records for my family are completely inaccurate so I don't hold much stock in their records...that is MY opinion. we are all entitled to our own. correct???? Cris

Hi, As far as I have been told they do go to the courthouses, etc. They get permission to photograph the records. Now like anything that needs to be transcribed to make it available online mistakes can be made when interperting this due to several factors. I know that only about a year or two after they had filmed records at a courthouse that courthouse burned to the ground. They rebuilt and asked the LDS if they could pay for copies of the records. They were given the records for free. Carla crazyangel25@webtv.net wrote: Just out of curiosity does anyone know where the LDS actually get the records they have? Do they physically go to the court houses, or hall or records or wherever they may be and look them up? I dont believe in all cases at least, that they take photgraphs of the records as suggested or they wouldnt be so inaccurate.And honestly I dont care about their copyrights. They got their information somewhere too, and if I ever managed to find even just "one" accurate piece of information from their site I would publish it on my website and dont care what their copyright laws are. Its my family. and thats my 2¢.. Cris Atwater California p.s if no one knows the answer to my question I will call the LDS temple in Oakland California and see if I can get someone who isnt rude to answer my question. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To Eleen and Megan Im sorry you dont like the discussion about the mormon records, but I disagree I think it is genealogy related. I would seriously like to know how thet get their information. I dont know, but it would seem to me, that if we ( or I, at least) knew then maybe we could do our own research the same way, and maybe with more accurate resuts. I felt I had a valid question in asking. Without trying to sound mean, thats what the delete key is for, if you dont like the subject you dont have to read it. Which is a good point that Ron had made. I often delete without reading it because the subject is not something Im nterested in or the surnames dont relate to mine. Im sure Ive missed things by doing that, but oh well... Cris Atwater California p.s it wouldnt matter if Padraig approved or disapproved, the list often disgreed with him. He was of great help to me though, and is missed.

Ron you are so right and I know I have been guilty myself. I do apologize. Sometimes on my webtv I hit the reply all key my mistake, but you are correct it is very tedious and for myself on webtv it takes up whole lot of space that could otherwise be better used, it oftens closes my email box and bounces email back. While we are on the topic my request, which I have also been guilty of....is please change the ubject line. For days now Ive wondered if Barbara -Ann has LANGAN ancestors but alas, though I have asked a few times on the list I have not recieved a reply so I will assume she does not. Thanks Ron for the friendly reminder.. Cris Atwater California

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Franklin" <macdummy@montanasky.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] LDS Films in the church records > And, another observation: Our ancestors lied a lot!!! > > Steve Didn't they just. My Ma-in-law, God rest her soul, lied like a trooper, and fed us a family background that was a total fabrication. And we swallowed it! My mother's wedding certificate is a tissue of lies, and I've never known if she knew, or had my grandmother convinced her it was the truth!

You never know what can happen with connections. Some of the O'Briens in County took the Queen's Oath and went to the Church of Ireland. Others did not. The O'Briens who lived in Garryarthur Kilflyn were of both persuasions. There is a tiny church in Kilflyn that is C of I. It is a beautiful little stone church surrounded by a wrought iron fence with a small cemetery behind. I wanted to go in when I was there but the gates were locked. I wanted to share this too. Judy Christopher (O'Brien/Fox) ----- Original Message ----- From: <mike@obrienclan.com> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records > Hi Judy, > > Thought I would through this in: My Catherine (C) O'Brien was born 1829, > Co > Limerick. Emigrated in 1849 to New York and on to San Francisco where she > married William O'Brien, born 1824, Co Limerick. They had six children > born > in San Francisco. > > Mike > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judy Christopher" <ajuntasc@comcast.net> > To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:09 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records > > >> My O'briens came from Glenroe Ballyorgan Garryarthur Kilflyn which is >> about >> 26miles southeast of Limerick City. >> I do have a Catherine but I believe she was born in the 1830s. I have >> been >> trying to find her information and her siblings Information. Catherine >> was >> the sister of Michael, Daniel, John, and Ann. I have only that she was >> the >> sponsor of my Granduncle William in 1869 at Kilfyn. Judy >> Christopher----- >> Original Message ----- >> From: "John Walton" <vabre1@optusnet.com.au> >> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 4:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records >> >> >>> Hi Judy, >>> I noticed your interest in the O'Brien's from Limerick. I have a >>> Catherine >>> O'Brien born abt. 1805 who married John O'Halloran. Two of their >>> children >>> were baptised at St. Michael's and St. John's.Do you think there could >>> be >>> a >>> connection to your O'Briens.. >>> >>> Pam...Sydney >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Judy Christopher" <ajuntasc@comcast.net> >>> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 7:37 AM >>> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records >>> >>> >>>>i was so very lucky. I was able to get a book full of family heritage >>>>from >>>> the old Limerick Archives at the Granary before the closed. I wish all >>>> could have had the chance to do so. If you know the Civil Parish your >>>> family came from you can write to the church and perhaps the priest >>>> there >>>> will be glad to send any records for a donation to the parish church. >>>> Judy >>>> Christopher (O'Brien/Fox County Limerick) >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Punch, Candace" <Candace.Punch@warnerbros.com> >>>> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 3:26 PM >>>> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Bishop of Limerick has put a hold on all church films in his >>>>> control area. He objects to the LDS Practice of doing baptisms and >>>>> confirmations for their dead ancestors to seal them in an eternal >>>>> chain >>>>> together. They have gotten a lot of flack for their beliefs. I find >>>>> it >>>>> no different than the Jehovah witnesses and how many people they >>>>> actually will be saved, the Catholic belief in Limbo, or the Shakers, >>>>> who believe in strict celibacy and no giving in marriage. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It is simply a religious belief, If it is not your belief it means >>>>> nothing to you , right? I feel bad that the Bishop cut millions off >>>>> from records that would unite families and give honor to Ireland as an >>>>> ancestral home of billions of people. I have been trying to piece my >>>>> husband's family together for 22 years. Those are the records I need. >>>>> I >>>>> know his father, Grandfather and the name of his Great Grandfather. >>>>> They >>>>> were catholic, so you all know how many records were compiled on that >>>>> side of the religious line and why. I guess I will have to wait till >>>>> the >>>>> Bishop dies and hope for a Bishop more concerned with families >>>>> gathering >>>>> and making Ireland the point of their beginnings, then finding threat >>>>> in >>>>> some church ceremony which they don't even believe in. Till then we >>>>> are >>>>> at his mercy, or have to spend a lot of money to hire a professional >>>>> there to do the work. The LDS Library had been my life line and they >>>>> are in the process of putting histories, books, genealogies and >>>>> amazing >>>>> items in the huge vaults in Cottonwood Canyon that have not had the >>>>> ability to do before now. Copies of some of the books that will be on >>>>> line were burnt when Hitler burnt the books. The librarians have >>>>> always >>>>> been very helpful and never, ever preachy. Let them believe as they >>>>> do. >>>>> Because of those beliefs, they will be freely sharing with us, on >>>>> line, >>>>> in the next years, incredible amounts of new information from around >>>>> the >>>>> world. That to me is a win, win situation.!. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Candace Punch. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

LOL Pat not a snowballs chance in ......

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Hi Lawrence Thank you, I thought you were refering to St Mary's but wasnt sure. I have emailed Ms Kennelly in the past but have never received a reply. Maybe Ill snail mail her, I was curious if we had kennelly's in common. Thanks again Cris

I don't wish to get into a religious debate here, as the forum's primary purpose is genealogy, I have found that it can be very confusing using the LDS site with many Ged Com's and other forms of contributions, added to the picture which at times conflicts with other information. For a more accurate picture I use the link below which lists parish by parish without the added contributions. Also I am not inferring that the data is absolute. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/ Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonita Evjen" <bevjen@bevcomm.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] LDS & films > Kitty, > > My Grandfather and Grandmother were baptized at St. Patrick's Church > in Raritan or in Monmouth. How do I go about getting baptismal > records. Did you go there or call??? What was the charge ??? > Bonni > On Feb 21, 2008, at 7:56 PM, Judith Mason wrote: > >> Kitty, >> >> St. Joseph & St. Mary Catholic churchs in Peoria have been very >> cooperative in providing records for me. >> >> I just did a search for the name SMITH in the IL statewide marriage >> index for Peoria County at the Illinois State Archives website.....a >> bunch of Smith's turned up. The local IRAD (Illinois Regional >> Archives Depository) offices have statewide marriage records to 1904 >> for the cost of photo copies ($1.00 min.). >> >> Peoria County death index 1916 - 1950 is online at the Illinois >> State Archives website >> >> Peoria County death index 1871 - 1916 is not online. FYI, the >> online IL entries are done by volunteers. This is a work in >> progress as the site states. Records can be obtained at IL >> Department of Vital Records in Springfield or in any County Vital >> Records office. >> >> Hope this helps you and others in your research. >> >> Judie Mason >> Chicago IL >> >> DUCKEECPS@aol.com wrote: >> I have viewed many LDS films for Catholic churches in the >> U.S....Illinois, >> New York, etc. Also, I will soon order the LDS films for the >> Catholic church >> in Rahoon Parish, Galway. I think, in the U.S., it may come down to >> the >> individual churches. We have three old churches our family used in >> one New York >> county; two of them were microfilmed by LDS and the third wass not >> (we have had >> absolutely no luck in dealing with that church personally!) >> >> In Illinois, there are vital records Indexes for Deaths as well as >> Marriages >> (up to 1900). However, Peoria County does not have their vital >> records on >> this Index (there are other Illinois counties who don't either). A >> couple of >> years ago, I checked the LDS for Catholic church records in >> Peoria...none >> listed. I have received old birth and death vital records by >> ordering them from >> Peoria. Also, since I knew specific dates, I was able to get the >> information >> on the baptisms by making inquiry to St. Mary's Church. >> >> All in all...family genealogists have a rough road to travel >> regarding civil >> records AND church records, whether it's in the U.S. or abroad. >> >> Kitty >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > > Any Society that would give up liberty for a little security, will > deserve neither and loose both. > > Benjamin Franklin 1759 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: > 19/01/2008 6:37 PM > >

Just out of curiosity does anyone know where the LDS actually get the records they have? Do they physically go to the court houses, or hall or records or wherever they may be and look them up? I dont believe in all cases at least, that they take photgraphs of the records as suggested or they wouldnt be so inaccurate.And honestly I dont care about their copyrights. They got their information somewhere too, and if I ever managed to find even just "one" accurate piece of information from their site I would publish it on my website and dont care what their copyright laws are. Its my family. and thats my 2¢.. Cris Atwater California p.s if no one knows the answer to my question I will call the LDS temple in Oakland California and see if I can get someone who isnt rude to answer my question.

Both of mine were Catholic as all of their family is buried at Holy Cross in Colma, CA (outside of San Francisco). They were originally buried at Calvary Cemetery in San Francisco but the cemetery was closed and all relocated to Holy Cross. I was hoping that a death notice might show up somewhere in Co Limerick for William (d. Dec 1864) and Catherine (d. 5 Jan 1897). With no parish name or parents names or knowledge of any siblings who either stayed in Ireland or emigrated, I am stuck here hoping someone is searching for a link to these two. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Christopher" <ajuntasc@comcast.net> To: <mike@obrienclan.com>; <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records > You never know what can happen with connections. Some of the O'Briens in > County took the Queen's Oath and went to the Church of Ireland. Others > did not. The O'Briens who lived in Garryarthur Kilflyn were of both > persuasions. There is a tiny church in Kilflyn that is C of I. It is a > beautiful little stone church surrounded by a wrought iron fence with a > small cemetery behind. I wanted to go in when I was there but the gates > were locked. I wanted to share this too. Judy Christopher (O'Brien/Fox) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <mike@obrienclan.com> > To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 3:02 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records > > >> Hi Judy, >> >> Thought I would through this in: My Catherine (C) O'Brien was born 1829, >> Co >> Limerick. Emigrated in 1849 to New York and on to San Francisco where >> she >> married William O'Brien, born 1824, Co Limerick. They had six children >> born >> in San Francisco. >> >> Mike >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Judy Christopher" <ajuntasc@comcast.net> >> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records >> >> >>> My O'briens came from Glenroe Ballyorgan Garryarthur Kilflyn which is >>> about >>> 26miles southeast of Limerick City. >>> I do have a Catherine but I believe she was born in the 1830s. I have >>> been >>> trying to find her information and her siblings Information. Catherine >>> was >>> the sister of Michael, Daniel, John, and Ann. I have only that she was >>> the >>> sponsor of my Granduncle William in 1869 at Kilfyn. Judy >>> Christopher----- >>> Original Message ----- >>> From: "John Walton" <vabre1@optusnet.com.au> >>> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 4:08 PM >>> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records >>> >>> >>>> Hi Judy, >>>> I noticed your interest in the O'Brien's from Limerick. I have a >>>> Catherine >>>> O'Brien born abt. 1805 who married John O'Halloran. Two of their >>>> children >>>> were baptised at St. Michael's and St. John's.Do you think there could >>>> be >>>> a >>>> connection to your O'Briens.. >>>> >>>> Pam...Sydney >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Judy Christopher" <ajuntasc@comcast.net> >>>> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 7:37 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records >>>> >>>> >>>>>i was so very lucky. I was able to get a book full of family heritage >>>>>from >>>>> the old Limerick Archives at the Granary before the closed. I wish >>>>> all >>>>> could have had the chance to do so. If you know the Civil Parish your >>>>> family came from you can write to the church and perhaps the priest >>>>> there >>>>> will be glad to send any records for a donation to the parish church. >>>>> Judy >>>>> Christopher (O'Brien/Fox County Limerick) >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Punch, Candace" <Candace.Punch@warnerbros.com> >>>>> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 3:26 PM >>>>> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Bishop of Limerick has put a hold on all church films in his >>>>>> control area. He objects to the LDS Practice of doing baptisms and >>>>>> confirmations for their dead ancestors to seal them in an eternal >>>>>> chain >>>>>> together. They have gotten a lot of flack for their beliefs. I find >>>>>> it >>>>>> no different than the Jehovah witnesses and how many people they >>>>>> actually will be saved, the Catholic belief in Limbo, or the Shakers, >>>>>> who believe in strict celibacy and no giving in marriage. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It is simply a religious belief, If it is not your belief it means >>>>>> nothing to you , right? I feel bad that the Bishop cut millions off >>>>>> from records that would unite families and give honor to Ireland as >>>>>> an >>>>>> ancestral home of billions of people. I have been trying to piece my >>>>>> husband's family together for 22 years. Those are the records I need. >>>>>> I >>>>>> know his father, Grandfather and the name of his Great Grandfather. >>>>>> They >>>>>> were catholic, so you all know how many records were compiled on that >>>>>> side of the religious line and why. I guess I will have to wait till >>>>>> the >>>>>> Bishop dies and hope for a Bishop more concerned with families >>>>>> gathering >>>>>> and making Ireland the point of their beginnings, then finding threat >>>>>> in >>>>>> some church ceremony which they don't even believe in. Till then we >>>>>> are >>>>>> at his mercy, or have to spend a lot of money to hire a professional >>>>>> there to do the work. The LDS Library had been my life line and they >>>>>> are in the process of putting histories, books, genealogies and >>>>>> amazing >>>>>> items in the huge vaults in Cottonwood Canyon that have not had the >>>>>> ability to do before now. Copies of some of the books that will be on >>>>>> line were burnt when Hitler burnt the books. The librarians have >>>>>> always >>>>>> been very helpful and never, ever preachy. Let them believe as they >>>>>> do. >>>>>> Because of those beliefs, they will be freely sharing with us, on >>>>>> line, >>>>>> in the next years, incredible amounts of new information from around >>>>>> the >>>>>> world. That to me is a win, win situation.!. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Candace Punch. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>> the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

There are Fenton's inthe PLU of Kilmallock, the Civil Parish of Glenroe in County Limerick. I don't what townland they are in. I visited with them some years ago. They have a large dairy farm. Wish I could give you more. Judy Christopher----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda South" <LindaGSouth@msn.com> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:57 PM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Fenton in Limerick or Cork > Is anyone searching for Fenton in Limerick or Cork? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

JJ Woods wrote: > Yes, you have to go through the Tipperary Family History Research group and > they, as you say, will undertake a search for you for a fee. Their web > address is as follows: > > http://www.tfhr.org/ > > Kerry is another diocese which does not allow free access to the microfilms. > However, I do believe it is possible to obtain a letter of authorisation in > order to do so. This must be presented at the National Library when seeking > access. The National Library also holds the microfilm of the Diocese of > Cashel and Emly but cannot release them for viewing without a letter of > authorisation from the bishop, which I believe is not likely to be > forthcoming. I don't know about the availability of these films in the LDS > FHS. It might be worth a try. > > J. J. > > Thanx for this J.J. Hope it helps others. Steve No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1293 - Release Date: 2/22/08 9:21 AM

Google groireland. ----- Original Message ----- From: "K" <ktzndgs@cox.net> To: <IRL-LIMERICK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:28 PM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] birth record >I gathered together all of my ancestors birth records years ago but a > relative is now doing their side of the family. Can someone tell me how > I go about requesting a certified record of a birth that took place in > Limerick in about 1910? Thanks! I'll have the exact date by the time I > request the record but can one request a search of the records as well? > > Kathy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thank you for your reply Judy, it looks like we will just have to keep looking. Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Christopher" <ajuntasc@comcast.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records > My O'briens came from Glenroe Ballyorgan Garryarthur Kilflyn which is > about > 26miles southeast of Limerick City. > I do have a Catherine but I believe she was born in the 1830s. I have > been > trying to find her information and her siblings Information. Catherine > was > the sister of Michael, Daniel, John, and Ann. I have only that she was > the > sponsor of my Granduncle William in 1869 at Kilfyn. Judy > Christopher----- > Original Message ----- > From: "John Walton" <vabre1@optusnet.com.au> > To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 4:08 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records > > >> Hi Judy, >> I noticed your interest in the O'Brien's from Limerick. I have a >> Catherine >> O'Brien born abt. 1805 who married John O'Halloran. Two of their children >> were baptised at St. Michael's and St. John's.Do you think there could be >> a >> connection to your O'Briens.. >> >> Pam...Sydney >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Judy Christopher" <ajuntasc@comcast.net> >> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 7:37 AM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records >> >> >>>i was so very lucky. I was able to get a book full of family heritage >>>from >>> the old Limerick Archives at the Granary before the closed. I wish all >>> could have had the chance to do so. If you know the Civil Parish your >>> family came from you can write to the church and perhaps the priest >>> there >>> will be glad to send any records for a donation to the parish church. >>> Judy >>> Christopher (O'Brien/Fox County Limerick) >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Punch, Candace" <Candace.Punch@warnerbros.com> >>> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 3:26 PM >>> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The Bishop of Limerick has put a hold on all church films in his >>>> control area. He objects to the LDS Practice of doing baptisms and >>>> confirmations for their dead ancestors to seal them in an eternal chain >>>> together. They have gotten a lot of flack for their beliefs. I find >>>> it >>>> no different than the Jehovah witnesses and how many people they >>>> actually will be saved, the Catholic belief in Limbo, or the Shakers, >>>> who believe in strict celibacy and no giving in marriage. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It is simply a religious belief, If it is not your belief it means >>>> nothing to you , right? I feel bad that the Bishop cut millions off >>>> from records that would unite families and give honor to Ireland as an >>>> ancestral home of billions of people. I have been trying to piece my >>>> husband's family together for 22 years. Those are the records I need. >>>> I >>>> know his father, Grandfather and the name of his Great Grandfather. >>>> They >>>> were catholic, so you all know how many records were compiled on that >>>> side of the religious line and why. I guess I will have to wait till >>>> the >>>> Bishop dies and hope for a Bishop more concerned with families >>>> gathering >>>> and making Ireland the point of their beginnings, then finding threat >>>> in >>>> some church ceremony which they don't even believe in. Till then we >>>> are >>>> at his mercy, or have to spend a lot of money to hire a professional >>>> there to do the work. The LDS Library had been my life line and they >>>> are in the process of putting histories, books, genealogies and amazing >>>> items in the huge vaults in Cottonwood Canyon that have not had the >>>> ability to do before now. Copies of some of the books that will be on >>>> line were burnt when Hitler burnt the books. The librarians have always >>>> been very helpful and never, ever preachy. Let them believe as they >>>> do. >>>> Because of those beliefs, they will be freely sharing with us, on line, >>>> in the next years, incredible amounts of new information from around >>>> the >>>> world. That to me is a win, win situation.!. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Candace Punch. >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >