Hi, My ggggrandfather Paul Hughes died in 1843 in Adelaide, Middlesex, Ontario. Fortunately I checked his land records at the land registry office and they had a copy of his will. The court house there had had a fire and his will was one of the ones burned. Anyways in his will he mentiones the second to the oldest as executor and guardian of the four youngest children and also another daughter he gave something to. He however never mentioned his wife Lady Maria Louisa Fitzgerald Hughes, nor any of the other four children. I have yet to determine whether or not she was alive or had died when she had the youngest child which was my gggrandfather. Her father John Fitzgerald was an Attorney in Limerick City. I also believe I found her brother John Coote Fitzgerald in Liverpool, England. He married an Elizabeth Nott Paton. She had children from her previous marriage. It doesn't appear that they ever had children together. I have his death certificate. Now I am trying to see if he had an obituary and then I will see if he had a will. I am not sure when John Senior died or whether there was a will for him. I suspect that he died sometime in 1830's and that his wife may have remarried. I have the Curator for the St. Mary's Cathedral in Limerick is looking at all of the parish records for me and trying to find information on the Fitzgerald and Hughes. Carla littlehouseantiques@att.net wrote: The ONLY other reason that occurs to me that a wife might not be mentioned in the will of her husband is if she had an independent "fortune" or income/inheritance of her own that pre-cluded her needing to be 'provided' for by her husband? -------------- Original message from "Jan Fortado" : -------------- > I have another situation with a will and no mention of a wife, and I know > she was still living when her husband died. I have the will of an Anthony > Carroll, just across the Limerick border, in the parish of Kildorrery, Cork. > He married in the 1860's (wife was about 40). In his will of 1884, he makes > no mention at all of his wife, but she was living. In fact, she lived until > the early 1900's. There were no children mentioned, but since they married > older, this makes sense. > > I am really puzzled by the will making no mention of the wife. I can think > that maybe the marriage wasn't a good one? That they were separated? > > If anyone has found a similar situation, I would be interested in hearing > about it. > > Thank you, > Jan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers When I got home from work today there were no posts i my email from the Limerick List. In checking the archives I see there some posts. We had a power outage so Im supposing my email bounced back thus unsubscribing me, so this is just a test to see if I've re-subscribed. Sorry for the inconvenience. Cris

Can anyone tell me if it is at all normal for someone's will in Ireland to take 19 years to be proven? I have a will of an individual who died in 1811 that was not "proven" until 1830. It seems an awful long time to me...but I have no idea what is "normal" for this time period in Ireland. Can anyone shed any light at all? Thanks in advance for any help. Kathy

I have another situation with a will and no mention of a wife, and I know she was still living when her husband died. I have the will of an Anthony Carroll, just across the Limerick border, in the parish of Kildorrery, Cork. He married in the 1860's (wife was about 40). In his will of 1884, he makes no mention at all of his wife, but she was living. In fact, she lived until the early 1900's. There were no children mentioned, but since they married older, this makes sense. I am really puzzled by the will making no mention of the wife. I can think that maybe the marriage wasn't a good one? That they were separated? If anyone has found a similar situation, I would be interested in hearing about it. Thank you, Jan

As a backdoor approach, does the search system allow you to search for beneficiaries within the wills? A search for William O'Brien as beneficiary within a will and a will pops up showing he is the beneficiary of a will by John O'Brien of Ardagh, Co Limerick. This under the belief that William would be the son of John if age or dob match the will information. My William died in San Francisco in 1864 and I know he was a native of Co Limerick. Having no idea when his parents might have died, presumably in Co Limerick, I have no other way of finding his parents. Food for thought. In doing research we have to look at all angles. Even though I am Protestant, I found that my family was Catholic all the way down to my father through a marriage announcement in the newspaper for my grandfather. It stated he was married by Rev Father Lagan. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: <littlehouseantiques@att.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:32 PM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Index To Irish Wills for Co Limerick 1615-1800 > Index To Irish Wills for Co Limerick 1615-1800 > available on Ancestry.com at: > > http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=7287 > > Includes some other counties as well (Cork among them) > > I don't have a 'full' subscription to Ancestry.com and > cannot access these records > > However by fooling around w/ keywords I can get > it to provide SOME info such as: > > Search Terms > EXACT MATCHES ONLY > First Name: Ann > Last Name: Uniack > Keyword(s) : Indexes To Irish Wills 1909 Vol. 2 Diocese > > (to make it "REVEAL" the title, chapter and Section) > > And what I get is this: > > Ann Uniack > Title: Indexes To Irish Wills 1909 > Chapter: Indexes To Irish Wills 1909 Vol. 2 > Section: Diocese Of Cloyne > Page: ??? > > At any rate, it looks like Michael Shanahan's wife Anne Uniack died before > him and had a will of her own in her own [maiden] name. > > Does anyone have a 'full-blown' subscription to Ancestry.com and could > you do a lookup in this database and tell me if it has any more info to > offer > (like date of will, etc.?) > > Would be happy to do any lookups in any of the databases I do have access > to (all US records) in return :-) > > Thanks! > Kathy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I question is, where would one find an index of Irish wills and time periods? Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "mattse165" <mattse165@paradise.net.nz> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:05 PM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills >I think the same as Virginia. My grandfather's will was not proven until > after his wife died 10 years later > Elaine > NZ > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Carole Hope this may fill some of the gaps, they are the only children recorded in Glin Parish at the National schools date ranges about 1843-1865, there are no Hogan's at Kinard in the 1830 tithes Hogan Catherine born 1837 her father is a farmer at Kinard left December 1853, no reason given Hogan John born 1838/39 his father is a farmer/labourer at Kinard , absent 3 Months Sep 1846, Sep 1848 and Oct 1849. Not returned June 1852. Absent 3 Mar 1853 labouring also Feb 1855 and absent 13 weeks Jan 1856 (John or his father John is renting off the Knight of Glin 1857 in Kinard and is still in the name of John Hogan between 1902-1926 with a valuation purchase price of 144 pounds ) Hogan Patrick born April 1844 his father is a farmer at Kinard, absent from school April 1854 for 3 Months. absent 13 weeks in May 1856. Farming - Date left 06-06-1857 Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Lubbers" <clubbers@earthlink.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] LDS RECORDS, ETC. > Steve, I agree with you. However, when I visited the Cleveland Diocese, > same problem, LDS beliefs goes against everything Catholics believe in. So > the bishop will not release the records. To me it does not make sense. > Then there was the privacy issue from the secretary I talked to. I said, > "these people are dead, why do they need privacy?" You would have thought I > threw water in her face the way she reacted to that. So that was about 12 > years ago and I still do not have records from Cleveland, hoping to lead me > to the village in Limerick Co. on my Dennis Hogan and family. Dennis born > May 1850 per the 1900 census. Now what? > There are some (very few) Catholic records the LDS has filmed and I think it > depends on the powers that be that are interested in genealogy and > sympathetic to researchers. > Carole in Georgia, USA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Franklin" <macdummy@montanasky.net> > To: "Limerick mail list" <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:54 PM > Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] LDS RECORDS, ETC. > > >> Regarding inaccuracies in LDS records. If I take a picture of something >> that has inaccuracies in it, is it my fault that the information is >> inaccurate? >> >> As for the baptism issue. I am a baptised, practicing Roman Catholic, >> and when I die, I am still a baptised Catholic. That cannot be changed, >> even if the LDS wishes it so. So, what's the problem? >> >> Sounds like some are making a Mt. Everest of of a mole hill. >> >> My opinion only. >> >> Steve >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1291 - Release Date: 2/21/08 > 11:05 AM >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> __________ NOD32 2895 (20080222) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.eset.com >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: 19/01/2008 6:37 PM > >

George Thanks. I tried about month ago emailing the parish priest, but it came back. I will try a letter this time. I'll look into other tips now too. Thanks for the help. Melody

Have any subscibers ,in their Limerick searches, come across the surnames O'Dell, Creagh, Garde ? If so, I would be pleased to hear Carmel Hickson Australia

Valerie, Regarding your comment that the "O'Brien name which would never be found in the archives as there is no mention of the name in the subject line" Here is a TIP to overcome this difficulty.... When you do searches make sure that you use the ADVANCED search option and run two searches--one putting the surname you are searching for in the Subject Line and another search putting the surname you are searching for in the BODY Line (note: not at the same time - run two separate searches!). This way, despite the manner in which the posting was made, you WILL be able to find (hopefully) what you are looking for. (NEVER say NEVER - lol!) The link to use to search ONLY the postings made to this particular mailing list (IRL-LIMERICK) is: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=IRL-LIMERICK You have two options - KEYWORD OR ADVANCED CLICK on the ADVANCED TAB and do as I described above. It is not always easy to find things in the archives so I hope this "TIP" helps someone! We should probably all try to do better with our changing of subject lines, etc. but you should also be aware that changing subject lines is problematice too because changes to subject line often cause you not to be able to read complete "threads" to see how a certain subject progressed--and this can be majorly annoying when you've found a promising line that might pertain to your research only to "lose" it because the posters "changed" the subject line. So, again in this case this is where it comes in handy to use the ADVANCED search options. Happy (and successful!) Hunting! Kathy Researching SHANAHAN and LUBY surnames in Co Limerick, Co Tipperary & Co Cork ------- Original message from "Valerie Garton" <vbgarton@optusnet.com.au>: ------- <snip> > Also the message below is about the O'Brien name which would never be > found in the archives as there is no mention of the name in the subject > line. > > Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. > Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow > & Wexford > Guild of One-Name Studies No: 4825 for CULLODEN & HIGGINSON > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > mike@obrienclan.com > Sent: Saturday, 23 February 2008 7:03 AM > To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records > > > Hi Judy, > > Thought I would through this in: My Catherine (C) O'Brien was born > 1829, Co > Limerick. Emigrated in 1849 to New York and on to San Francisco where > she > married William O'Brien, born 1824, Co Limerick. They had six children > born > in San Francisco. > > Mike

Could it be that the spouse did not die until 1830? I can't speak for Ireland, but I've seen that happen a lot in upstate NY. Virginia H. ----- Original Message ----- From: <littlehouseantiques@att.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 1:14 PM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills > Can anyone tell me if it is at all normal for someone's will in Ireland to > take 19 years to be proven? > I have a will of an individual who died in 1811 that was not "proven" > until 1830. It seems an awful long time to me...but I have no idea what > is "normal" for this time period in Ireland. Can anyone shed any light at > all? Thanks in advance for any help. > > Kathy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just a note The NSW Austrlaian birth death and marriage records were sent to the Philippines to be transcribed onto microfische People whose natural language is not English were paid to read our writing and retype....there are 10000s of errors It happens the world over I am just very grateful that these records are available.reagrdless why or when can we please get on with it now christene

heavens enough is enough we called a halt now we are discussing the halt can we please just get on with it like all info you are given or find YOU MUST CHECK IT it does not matter who or where info is gathered from common sense demands that you have 2 seperate sources

Kathy The name "Prior's land" dates back to medieval times,when much of the land was owned by religious orders of the Church.This term referred to the prior of Dominican order.This land is scatterred in a number of areas of the city-it would have been outside old city walls.Much of the present city centre as well as Thomondgate area was designated as Prior's land.The latter area was largely in the civil parish of Killeely.This stretched out from the Thomond bridge to Clare boundary.It was and is in the Catholic parish of St Munchin.While the Catholic parishes have increased in number since 19th century much of this change has been in the newer suburban areas.The old Thomondgate area is close to the parish church. George ----- Original Message ----- From: <littlehouseantiques@att.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:33 AM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] How to determine which RC parish corresponds to 1850Limerick Street Names? > The Griffiths entry for Judith's Richard Dolan lists the > Townland as: Prior's Land (Cashel Lane) in Civil Parish > of Killeely.... > > I know that Prior's Land is in the municipal borough of the > city of Limerick but HOW do you figure out which municipal > RC parish this is in? Simply by the street name or > something? If this is so, haven't these RC parishes changed > over time? (or are the RC parishes of the city pretty static?) > In other words someone living on Cashel Lane in 1850 would > attend the same RC parish as someone living on Cashel > Lane today? > > Thanks! Kathy > ---------------------------------------------------------- > George Kelly answered: > Judie > This appears to be Cash's Lane,Thomondgate,which is in St > Munchin's Catholic parish. > George > > Judith Mason asked: > In the 1850 Griffith's Valuation for Limerick City, I have > Richard Dolan living on Cashel's Lane in the civil parish > of Killeely. Would someone be kind enough to tell me what > ecclesiastical parish Richard would be in? <snip> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

OK Other names associated with my O'Briens are Lonergan, Fitzgerald, Fox, Bourke, Mitchell and Barrett. Barrett m. Fox and Mitchell m. O'Brien. Don't know if the others are related or maybe neighbors. I know the Fitzgeralds were in Garryarthur Kilflyn. in 1872. Judy Christopher ----- Original Message ----- From: <mike@obrienclan.com> To: "Judy Christopher" <ajuntasc@comcast.net>; <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: O'Brien records in Co Limerick. > Judy, > > To the best of my knowledge, Catherine's maiden name was O'Brien. I have > three out of four death certificates of her children stating mother's > maiden name as O'Brien. > > Not uncommon for O'Briens marrying O'Briens. I have many of the O'Brien > history books and have found 16 accounts where 2nd and 3rd cousins married > over the last 600 to 800 years. > > Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judy Christopher" <ajuntasc@comcast.net> > To: <mike@obrienclan.com>; <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:13 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records > > >> Do you know Catherine's maiden name or is she William's sister? I know >> this is a "dumb" question but sometimes it jogs the search. I don't know >> how old my Catherine was in 1864. She was the aunt of James O'Brien >> (making her born an O'brien I assume) and was his sponsor at his baptism >> on January 24, 1871. James was baptized in Kilflyn. I know that the >> church records at Kilflyn only date back to 1853, as no records were >> allowed to be kept by the Catholics before 1856 so the priest kept some >> records before it was legally allowed. My other O'Brien records come >> from a family in Garryarthur who had copies of the rent and tithe records >> dating back to 1779 showing the O'Briens paying their rent on the >> leaseholds they held. >> Let me know if you need more info from me as I have quite a history. >> Judy Christopher (O'Brien/Fox) >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <mike@obrienclan.com> >> To: "Judy Christopher" <ajuntasc@comcast.net>; >> <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 5:57 PM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records >> >> >>> Both of mine were Catholic as all of their family is buried at Holy >>> Cross in Colma, CA (outside of San Francisco). They were originally >>> buried at Calvary Cemetery in San Francisco but the cemetery was closed >>> and all relocated to Holy Cross. >>> I was hoping that a death notice might show up somewhere in Co Limerick >>> for William (d. Dec 1864) and Catherine (d. 5 Jan 1897). With no parish >>> name or parents names or knowledge of any siblings who either stayed in >>> Ireland or emigrated, I am stuck here hoping someone is searching for a >>> link to these two. >>> >>> Mike >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Judy Christopher" <ajuntasc@comcast.net> >>> To: <mike@obrienclan.com>; <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:48 PM >>> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records >>> >>> >>>> You never know what can happen with connections. Some of the O'Briens >>>> in County took the Queen's Oath and went to the Church of Ireland. >>>> Others did not. The O'Briens who lived in Garryarthur Kilflyn were of >>>> both persuasions. There is a tiny church in Kilflyn that is C of I. >>>> It is a beautiful little stone church surrounded by a wrought iron >>>> fence with a small cemetery behind. I wanted to go in when I was >>>> there but the gates were locked. I wanted to share this too. Judy >>>> Christopher (O'Brien/Fox) >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: <mike@obrienclan.com> >>>> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 3:02 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Judy, >>>>> >>>>> Thought I would through this in: My Catherine (C) O'Brien was born >>>>> 1829, Co >>>>> Limerick. Emigrated in 1849 to New York and on to San Francisco where >>>>> she >>>>> married William O'Brien, born 1824, Co Limerick. They had six >>>>> children born >>>>> in San Francisco. >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Judy Christopher" <ajuntasc@comcast.net> >>>>> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:09 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> My O'briens came from Glenroe Ballyorgan Garryarthur Kilflyn which is >>>>>> about >>>>>> 26miles southeast of Limerick City. >>>>>> I do have a Catherine but I believe she was born in the 1830s. I >>>>>> have >>>>>> been >>>>>> trying to find her information and her siblings Information. >>>>>> Catherine >>>>>> was >>>>>> the sister of Michael, Daniel, John, and Ann. I have only that she >>>>>> was >>>>>> the >>>>>> sponsor of my Granduncle William in 1869 at Kilfyn. Judy >>>>>> Christopher----- >>>>>> Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "John Walton" <vabre1@optusnet.com.au> >>>>>> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 4:08 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Judy, >>>>>>> I noticed your interest in the O'Brien's from Limerick. I have a >>>>>>> Catherine >>>>>>> O'Brien born abt. 1805 who married John O'Halloran. Two of their >>>>>>> children >>>>>>> were baptised at St. Michael's and St. John's.Do you think there >>>>>>> could be >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> connection to your O'Briens.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pam...Sydney >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Judy Christopher" <ajuntasc@comcast.net> >>>>>>> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 7:37 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>i was so very lucky. I was able to get a book full of family >>>>>>>>heritage >>>>>>>>from >>>>>>>> the old Limerick Archives at the Granary before the closed. I wish >>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>> could have had the chance to do so. If you know the Civil Parish >>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>> family came from you can write to the church and perhaps the priest >>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>> will be glad to send any records for a donation to the parish >>>>>>>> church. >>>>>>>> Judy >>>>>>>> Christopher (O'Brien/Fox County Limerick) >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Punch, Candace" <Candace.Punch@warnerbros.com> >>>>>>>> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 3:26 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Bishop of Limerick has put a hold on all church films in >>>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>>> control area. He objects to the LDS Practice of doing baptisms >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> confirmations for their dead ancestors to seal them in an eternal >>>>>>>>> chain >>>>>>>>> together. They have gotten a lot of flack for their beliefs. I >>>>>>>>> find >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> no different than the Jehovah witnesses and how many people they >>>>>>>>> actually will be saved, the Catholic belief in Limbo, or the >>>>>>>>> Shakers, >>>>>>>>> who believe in strict celibacy and no giving in marriage. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is simply a religious belief, If it is not your belief it means >>>>>>>>> nothing to you , right? I feel bad that the Bishop cut millions >>>>>>>>> off >>>>>>>>> from records that would unite families and give honor to Ireland >>>>>>>>> as an >>>>>>>>> ancestral home of billions of people. I have been trying to piece >>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>> husband's family together for 22 years. Those are the records I >>>>>>>>> need. >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> know his father, Grandfather and the name of his Great >>>>>>>>> Grandfather. >>>>>>>>> They >>>>>>>>> were catholic, so you all know how many records were compiled on >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> side of the religious line and why. I guess I will have to wait >>>>>>>>> till >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> Bishop dies and hope for a Bishop more concerned with families >>>>>>>>> gathering >>>>>>>>> and making Ireland the point of their beginnings, then finding >>>>>>>>> threat >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> some church ceremony which they don't even believe in. Till then >>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> at his mercy, or have to spend a lot of money to hire a >>>>>>>>> professional >>>>>>>>> there to do the work. The LDS Library had been my life line and >>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>> are in the process of putting histories, books, genealogies and >>>>>>>>> amazing >>>>>>>>> items in the huge vaults in Cottonwood Canyon that have not had >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> ability to do before now. Copies of some of the books that will be >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>> line were burnt when Hitler burnt the books. The librarians have >>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>> been very helpful and never, ever preachy. Let them believe as >>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>> do. >>>>>>>>> Because of those beliefs, they will be freely sharing with us, on >>>>>>>>> line, >>>>>>>>> in the next years, incredible amounts of new information from >>>>>>>>> around >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> world. That to me is a win, win situation.!. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Candace Punch. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>>>> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>>> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>>>> without the >>>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>> the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

I think we've got it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Franklin" <macdummy@montanasky.net> To: "Limerick mail list" <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 12:33 PM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Subject lines and snipping > It sure would be nice if posters would have the subject line reflect the > 'actual' subject. > > And, when replying to a post, it is appropriate to snip out (delete) all > but the essential part of the message being replied to. Some messages > get repeated over and over again by different posters. > > Thanx in advance, > > Steve > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1294 - Release Date: 2/22/08 > 6:39 PM > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Do you think we could call a halt to the discussions re the LDS and their records? Whatever your thoughts I think we have heard enough. Let's just help each other with genealogy. Megan.

>Dear Listers This is a cry from the heart! When sending an email to the list, could you PLEASE delete all previous messages. Every digest we receive, we have to trawl through dozens of messages previously posted. It becomes very time consuming - not to mention tedious. THANKS in advance.

I would greatly appreciate any info on the surname Fraher. It's not a usual one and therefore any that you find will probably be mine. Thank you for your kind & generous offer Eileen Fraher Sullivan

The Griffiths entry for Judith's Richard Dolan lists the Townland as: Prior's Land (Cashel Lane) in Civil Parish of Killeely.... I know that Prior's Land is in the municipal borough of the city of Limerick but HOW do you figure out which municipal RC parish this is in? Simply by the street name or something? If this is so, haven't these RC parishes changed over time? (or are the RC parishes of the city pretty static?) In other words someone living on Cashel Lane in 1850 would attend the same RC parish as someone living on Cashel Lane today? Thanks! Kathy ---------------------------------------------------------- George Kelly answered: Judie This appears to be Cash's Lane,Thomondgate,which is in St Munchin's Catholic parish. George Judith Mason asked: In the 1850 Griffith's Valuation for Limerick City, I have Richard Dolan living on Cashel's Lane in the civil parish of Killeely. Would someone be kind enough to tell me what ecclesiastical parish Richard would be in? <snip>