Wow Carol what a cool site, Thank you very much I will definitely check it out. Out of curiosity do you have any family in California, Oklahoma or Idaho? I used to be a Collins. Cris

Thank you Margaret

Margaret well darn, I was hoping there was a connection, there are a couple people on the Platte County Nebraska list who have FOLEY'S and I sent your posts to them, just in case...oh well...sorry Cris

Hi Carla I live in a small country town, dont have family history center here. Is that what this footnotes.com was? If so I wont bother too much with it, no since "spinning my wheels" since we dont have a center here. My ancestors were came to Illinois, Iowa and Nebraska, from Ireland none in Texas. Thank you Cris

Cris, If you go to the nearest Family History Center you should be able to see everything. They have Civil War Records, Texas death Certificates, Etc. Carla crazyangel25@webtv.net wrote: Hi Everyone You are all so much more experienced and knowledgeable than Iam so you probably already know about this site. While googling I came across it and it looks pretty cool...I came up with a lot of Langans, unfortunately on webtv, I cant get into the pages to find out what's there.Iam very limited on what I can access on webtv. The site is footnote.com I hope it will help someone...and if it doesn't Im sorry, like I said I cant get the information only description of it so don't shoot the messenger if it ends up being bogus or a pay site ok. Cris ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Everyone You are all so much more experienced and knowledgeable than Iam so you probably already know about this site. While googling I came across it and it looks pretty cool...I came up with a lot of Langans, unfortunately on webtv, I cant get into the pages to find out what's there.Iam very limited on what I can access on webtv. The site is footnote.com I hope it will help someone...and if it doesn't Im sorry, like I said I cant get the information only description of it so don't shoot the messenger if it ends up being bogus or a pay site ok. Cris

Thanks Elaine and Viriginia too...I thought your idea was great and went scurrying back to read the will (yet again) and then...duh...it dawned on me that the wife is conspicuously ABSENT in the will; she is not mentioned at all (silly of me not to notice that I guess) but there ya go. I don't know if I dare assume she pre-deceased him or not but what other reason could there be? What is horribly frustrating is this will was transcribed in 1981 by a professional genealogist and he made no notation of where he obtained it and although this genealogist appears still to be living and working in Co Kildare, Ireland, he has not answered either my emails to him nor my snail mail so I'm left wondering if he totally made this will up! And I guess that brings me to my answer to Marie...I have no idea where you look for Irish will indexes--one would suppose in the local courthouses themselves just as we do here in the US. Any pointers, anyone? -------------- Original message from mattse165 <mattse165@paradise.net.nz>: -------------- I think the same as Virginia. My grandfather's will was not proven until after his wife died 10 years later Elaine NZ

Hi Listers I posted this recently but thought Id give it another shot since I've been having trouble with my email bouncing lately. Itreid going through the archives but boy are there alot of posts for this list ! whew! In browsing I found something I dont understand in the "Ireland (or is it Irish??) Old News" .Im hoping someone can help me. An article dated November 25 1852 says, in part, "the eviction of 25 families off the "lands of Langan" and Moyne." Who, what and / or where are the lands of Langan? is that a place or a person.One of my surnames is LANGAN. Someone kindly sent me a link to check surnames but what I'm really trying to find out is if the "lands of Langan and Moyne" was a place...or was Langan the people they were refering to? If it is a place can someone tell me where it is? Thank you again, Cris

Hi Listers Since I didnt get any posts today Ive been reading the archives and found the discussion wills very interesting. So I did a google search by putting in Prerogative Court+Limerick and came up with all sorts of interesitng things and it appears that there are some searches possible also. I havent read through a lot of them yet of course but thought it might be of interest to some. Cris Atwater California

Thanks for trying. ----- Original Message ----- From: "john walton" <vabre1@optusnet.com.au> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Irish Wills > Marie, > > It looks as though you are requesting Wills information. If that's so I > can't find a John Meehan in that time frame. > > John...Sydney > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marie Goforth-Allen" <kentucky@frontiernet.net> > To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:47 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills > > >> John Meehan of Castletown died @1851 >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Walton" <vabre1@optusnet.com.au> >> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:55 PM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills > >>> What names are you looking for in the Wills Index, I may be able to >>> help. >>> >>> John...Sydney >>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi John, Were would I go for a copy of the will? What is Newton Perry? Also Judy is talking about City pages on the Limerick Genweb and I have tried Googling it and still haven't had success. Can you email me the connection? There was one thing I looked at but I am not sure if this is what she was in reference to. Thanks so much, Carla john walton <vabre1@optusnet.com.au> wrote: Hi Carla, There are two entries for John Fitzgerald in Limerick. John Fitzgerald .........Newton-Pery...21st. June 1806. NA Ref. Crossle/Fitzgerald/2/1 John Fitzgerald.....Rathkeale.....4th.September 1801 NA Ref. Crossle/Fitzgerald/2/1 If he was in the City then Newton-Pery would be the one to choose. John.......Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carla Johnson" To: Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills > Hi John, > > What is the best way to find if there was a will for someone? I am > looking for a will for Attorney John Fitzgerald whose wife was Ann > Fitzgerald they lived in Limerick City. His office was on either Francis > or Ellen St. I don't know if at that time they were living in a house with > office attached or not. Would appreciate any suggestions. > > Carla > > littlehouseantiques@att.net wrote: > Wow, John, thanks so much! That's the one - his exec was his bro Henry. > > Does the NA stand for National Archives? Armed w/ these numbers I can > perhaps request copy from there? > > Kathy > > -------------- Original message from "john walton" : -------------- > > > Kathy, I have found the following: > > Michael Shanahan.....Date of Grant.. 16th. March 1830 > Prerogative Court > NA Ref. T/18259 > > > Michael Shanahan....Date of Will 1830 > Prerogative Court > Executor ....Henry Shanahan....Cork > NA Ref. IWR/1830/F/109 > Vol. NAME.. 4/236/16 > > Hope this helps, > > John > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Virginia & List Thank you very much for your reply Virginia. I guess the power outage messed me up today, actually my mailbox wasnt full so I dont know what happened. I have the following information that was sent to me, it has everytihng on it, but unfortunatley I cant remember which ist the person who sent it to me is on ( Andy P. are you on this list??) so I dont know where they got this information. I have also included an excerpt from another source which I know is incorrect. If anyone has any clues how I might find where this information was found perhaps I can look it up and see it or send for it. Although I don't know where to send for it or if I can.Can anyone advise me on that also. Thank you very much. Cris Atwater California <snip> "The 1860 census shows the family enumerated in Platte Co., NE, as James and Ellen CARRAGH, with eldest child age 3 born in Illinois. Marriage of James CARRIG and Ellen LANGAN Given Name: JAMES Surname:CARRAGE Year of Record: 1856 Comments: York County - marriage Event Description/Source Reference: Roman Catholic Marriage Registers; Office of the Registrar General (RG 80-27); Archives of Ontario, Toronto: microfilm group MS 248, reel 21, volume 2 Page #: page 639 Given Name: ELLEN Surname: LANGAN Year of Record: 1856 Comments: York County - marriage Event Description/Source Reference: Roman Catholic Marriage Registers; Office of the Registrar General (RG 80-27); Archives of Ontario, Toronto: microfilm group MS 248, reel 21, volume 2 Page #: page 639 They don't appear indexed together, but nonetheless are on the same page. (*Thank you Andy P. for this) next I find Margaret Curry's "History of Platte County Nebraska" says that James came to the US in 1848 and married Ellen in Montreal Canada in 1857. Then I find, and I forget where I think Andreas history of Nebraska. I omitted some.. the 7th of Dec was when their child was born (supposedly) <snip> .......7th of December, 1857, his parents being James and Ellen (Langan) Carrig, both of whom were natives of Ireland. They had five children, of whom but two are now living. The Carrig and Langan families both emigrated from Ireland to the United States as passengers on the same sailing vessel in 1850 and were three months in crossing the Atlantic. James Carrig, who was a farmer by occupation, was married at Urbana, Ohio, and afterward removed to Illinois but in August, 1859, came west to Nebraska, settling in Platte county. He lived there for a period of forty-one years, following agricultural pursuits and as one of the earliest settlers of the district witnessed many of those stirring scenes of pioneer life which have become almost a forgotten dream of the past......" and it continues with his biography

Hi Judy, Can you give me the link to the Limerick Genweb? I have tried looking for it, but haven't found one with Limerick City Pages on it. Carla Judy Christopher <ajuntasc@comcast.net> wrote: John Fitzgerald is listed as an attorney in the Limerick City pages on the Limerick GenWeb. Judy 'Chrisopher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carla Johnson" To: Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills > Hi John, > > What is the best way to find if there was a will for someone? I am > looking for a will for Attorney John Fitzgerald whose wife was Ann > Fitzgerald they lived in Limerick City. His office was on either Francis > or Ellen St. I don't know if at that time they were living in a house with > office attached or not. Would appreciate any suggestions. > > Carla > > littlehouseantiques@att.net wrote: > Wow, John, thanks so much! That's the one - his exec was his bro Henry. > > Does the NA stand for National Archives? Armed w/ these numbers I can > perhaps request copy from there? > > Kathy > > -------------- Original message from "john walton" : -------------- > > > Kathy, I have found the following: > > Michael Shanahan.....Date of Grant.. 16th. March 1830 > Prerogative Court > NA Ref. T/18259 > > > Michael Shanahan....Date of Will 1830 > Prerogative Court > Executor ....Henry Shanahan....Cork > NA Ref. IWR/1830/F/109 > Vol. NAME.. 4/236/16 > > Hope this helps, > > John > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Margaret would you happen to know if any of your FOLEY'S ended up in Nebraska? There are several FOLEY'S in Platte County Nebraska and I have a loose connection to them. Cris Atwater California

Eileen Google "failte romhat" to access Griffith's valuation c 1850 which lists householders and land occupiers.As you will see the name was not that rare in Limerick-concentrated in south east of county.For 1911 census extract listing heads of households go to www.limerickcity.ie/CityLibrary/LocalStudies. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Sullivans" <msullivan149@comcast.net> To: <IRL-LIMERICK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:00 PM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Bounty Records Look up >I would greatly appreciate any info on the surname Fraher. It's not a >usual > one and therefore any that you find will probably be mine. > > > > Thank you for your kind & generous offer > > Eileen Fraher Sullivan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I went on Ancestry and here is all they show. They are pages in Books. Indexes to Irish Wills 1909 Volumne 2 its says page 300 but when you look on the image the pages is 152, Cloyne Wills 1621-1800. Uniack, Ann (Widow) Youghal 1787 Uniack, Mary (Widow) Mount Uniacke 1672 Uniack, Maurice (alderman) Youghal 1649 Page 174 but image of page says Page 26, Cork and Ross Wills 1548-1800. Diocese of Cork and Ross. Coppinger, als Uniack, Joane Youghal 1637. Hope this helps. Good Luck. Carla littlehouseantiques@att.net wrote: Index To Irish Wills for Co Limerick 1615-1800 available on Ancestry.com at: http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=7287 Includes some other counties as well (Cork among them) I don't have a 'full' subscription to Ancestry.com and cannot access these records However by fooling around w/ keywords I can get it to provide SOME info such as: Search Terms EXACT MATCHES ONLY First Name: Ann Last Name: Uniack Keyword(s) : Indexes To Irish Wills 1909 Vol. 2 Diocese (to make it "REVEAL" the title, chapter and Section) And what I get is this: Ann Uniack Title: Indexes To Irish Wills 1909 Chapter: Indexes To Irish Wills 1909 Vol. 2 Section: Diocese Of Cloyne Page: ??? At any rate, it looks like Michael Shanahan's wife Anne Uniack died before him and had a will of her own in her own [maiden] name. Does anyone have a 'full-blown' subscription to Ancestry.com and could you do a lookup in this database and tell me if it has any more info to offer (like date of will, etc.?) Would be happy to do any lookups in any of the databases I do have access to (all US records) in return :-) Thanks! Kathy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What is a marriage settlement? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Reddan" <nickred@webone.com.au> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Question on wife not mentioned in will > Jan > > Another scenario is that she was provided for in their marriage > settlement. These often provided a life rent charge for the widow. > Also the eldest son might not be mentioned as the land was entailed and > went to them without need of being willed. > > A lot of marriage settlements were registered in the registry of Deeds > > -- > > > Regards > > > > > > Nick > > /Home/ > http://members.iinet.net.au/~nickred/ > <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Enickred/> > /Sites managed/ > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~registryofdeeds/index.html > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Eregistryofdeeds/index.html> > http://www.igrsoc.org/index.htm > http://members.iinet.net.au/~nickred/majuratennis/ > <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Enickred/majuratennis/> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John Meehan of Castletown died @1851 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Walton" <vabre1@optusnet.com.au> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills > > > What names are you looking for in the Wills Index, I may be able to help. > > John...Sydney > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <littlehouseantiques@att.net> > To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:34 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills > > >> Thanks Elaine and Viriginia too...I thought your idea was great and went >> scurrying back to read the will (yet again) and then...duh...it dawned on >> me that the wife is conspicuously ABSENT in the will; she is not >> mentioned >> at all (silly of me not to notice that I guess) but there ya go. I don't >> know if I dare assume she pre-deceased him or not but what other reason >> could there be? >> >> What is horribly frustrating is this will was transcribed in 1981 by a >> professional genealogist and he made no notation of where he obtained it >> and although this genealogist appears still to be living and working in >> Co >> Kildare, Ireland, he has not answered either my emails to him nor my >> snail >> mail so I'm left wondering if he totally made this will up! And I guess >> that brings me to my answer to Marie...I have no idea where you look for >> Irish will indexes--one would suppose in the local courthouses themselves >> just as we do here in the US. Any pointers, anyone? >> >> -------------- Original message from mattse165 >> <mattse165@paradise.net.nz>: -------------- >> I think the same as Virginia. My grandfather's will was not proven until >> after his wife died 10 years later >> Elaine >> NZ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks Eileen, I got a copy of my post about the same time that I got yours. I appreciate your reply. Looks ike Ive missed some interesting topics today, I'll have to catch up in the archives. Cris

Hi John, What is the best way to find if there was a will for someone? I am looking for a will for Attorney John Fitzgerald whose wife was Ann Fitzgerald they lived in Limerick City. His office was on either Francis or Ellen St. I don't know if at that time they were living in a house with office attached or not. Would appreciate any suggestions. Carla littlehouseantiques@att.net wrote: Wow, John, thanks so much! That's the one - his exec was his bro Henry. Does the NA stand for National Archives? Armed w/ these numbers I can perhaps request copy from there? Kathy -------------- Original message from "john walton" : -------------- Kathy, I have found the following: Michael Shanahan.....Date of Grant.. 16th. March 1830 Prerogative Court NA Ref. T/18259 Michael Shanahan....Date of Will 1830 Prerogative Court Executor ....Henry Shanahan....Cork NA Ref. IWR/1830/F/109 Vol. NAME.. 4/236/16 Hope this helps, John ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message