Hi Kerry, I am hoping you would not mind looking up on the Bounty List for any Kearney and/or Scanlan/Scanlon families. I cannot leave any stone unturned either! Thank you very much, Warmest Regards, Liz Dow, Yarmouth Maine --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

you are very welcome, Im glad I could help. Cris

thank you very much Kerry. Don't know if any are mine but I will hold onto it. I dont like to leave any stone unturned. Cris

Margaret There is someone on the Platte County NE list looking for the name MANGAN. It had gotten confused with my LANGAN surname. I cant remember who was but you could find out in the Platte County archives. Cris

Kerry If you have a chance would you please see if there are any LANGAN'S or CARRIG'S. Thank you, Cris

Can't answer Mike, it may be showing me an "exact match" simply because the name I entered is ANYwhere on the index as the maker of the will, the executor of the will or a beneficiary of the will...not being able to actually see what it finally pulls up, I simply do not know. -------------- Original message from <mike@obrienclan.com>: -------------- As a backdoor approach, does the search system allow you to search for beneficiaries within the wills? <snip> Mike

The ONLY other reason that occurs to me that a wife might not be mentioned in the will of her husband is if she had an independent "fortune" or income/inheritance of her own that pre-cluded her needing to be 'provided' for by her husband? -------------- Original message from "Jan Fortado" <janfortado@comcast.net>: -------------- > I have another situation with a will and no mention of a wife, and I know > she was still living when her husband died. I have the will of an Anthony > Carroll, just across the Limerick border, in the parish of Kildorrery, Cork. > He married in the 1860's (wife was about 40). In his will of 1884, he makes > no mention at all of his wife, but she was living. In fact, she lived until > the early 1900's. There were no children mentioned, but since they married > older, this makes sense. > > I am really puzzled by the will making no mention of the wife. I can think > that maybe the marriage wasn't a good one? That they were separated? > > If anyone has found a similar situation, I would be interested in hearing > about it. > > Thank you, > Jan

Wow, John, thanks so much! That's the one - his exec was his bro Henry. Does the NA stand for National Archives? Armed w/ these numbers I can perhaps request copy from there? Kathy -------------- Original message from "john walton" <vabre1@optusnet.com.au>: -------------- Kathy, I have found the following: Michael Shanahan.....Date of Grant.. 16th. March 1830 Prerogative Court NA Ref. T/18259 Michael Shanahan....Date of Will 1830 Prerogative Court Executor ....Henry Shanahan....Cork NA Ref. IWR/1830/F/109 Vol. NAME.. 4/236/16 Hope this helps, John

Index To Irish Wills for Co Limerick 1615-1800 available on Ancestry.com at: http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=7287 Includes some other counties as well (Cork among them) I don't have a 'full' subscription to Ancestry.com and cannot access these records However by fooling around w/ keywords I can get it to provide SOME info such as: Search Terms EXACT MATCHES ONLY First Name: Ann Last Name: Uniack Keyword(s) : Indexes To Irish Wills 1909 Vol. 2 Diocese (to make it "REVEAL" the title, chapter and Section) And what I get is this: Ann Uniack Title: Indexes To Irish Wills 1909 Chapter: Indexes To Irish Wills 1909 Vol. 2 Section: Diocese Of Cloyne Page: ??? At any rate, it looks like Michael Shanahan's wife Anne Uniack died before him and had a will of her own in her own [maiden] name. Does anyone have a 'full-blown' subscription to Ancestry.com and could you do a lookup in this database and tell me if it has any more info to offer (like date of will, etc.?) Would be happy to do any lookups in any of the databases I do have access to (all US records) in return :-) Thanks! Kathy

you can "Google" it. Judy Chrisotpher or check it out on Rootsweb. Judy Chrisotpher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carla Johnson" <csj0767@sbcglobal.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills > Hi Judy, > > Can you give me the link to the Limerick Genweb? I have tried looking > for it, but haven't found one with Limerick City Pages on it. > > Carla > > Judy Christopher <ajuntasc@comcast.net> wrote: > John Fitzgerald is listed as an attorney in the Limerick City pages on > the > Limerick GenWeb. Judy 'Chrisopher > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carla Johnson" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 10:24 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills > > >> Hi John, >> >> What is the best way to find if there was a will for someone? I am >> looking for a will for Attorney John Fitzgerald whose wife was Ann >> Fitzgerald they lived in Limerick City. His office was on either Francis >> or Ellen St. I don't know if at that time they were living in a house >> with >> office attached or not. Would appreciate any suggestions. >> >> Carla >> >> littlehouseantiques@att.net wrote: >> Wow, John, thanks so much! That's the one - his exec was his bro Henry. >> >> Does the NA stand for National Archives? Armed w/ these numbers I can >> perhaps request copy from there? >> >> Kathy >> >> -------------- Original message from "john walton" : -------------- >> >> >> Kathy, I have found the following: >> >> Michael Shanahan.....Date of Grant.. 16th. March 1830 >> Prerogative Court >> NA Ref. T/18259 >> >> >> Michael Shanahan....Date of Will 1830 >> Prerogative Court >> Executor ....Henry Shanahan....Cork >> NA Ref. IWR/1830/F/109 >> Vol. NAME.. 4/236/16 >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> John >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John Fitzgerald is listed as an attorney in the Limerick City pages on the Limerick GenWeb. Judy 'Chrisopher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carla Johnson" <csj0767@sbcglobal.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills > Hi John, > > What is the best way to find if there was a will for someone? I am > looking for a will for Attorney John Fitzgerald whose wife was Ann > Fitzgerald they lived in Limerick City. His office was on either Francis > or Ellen St. I don't know if at that time they were living in a house with > office attached or not. Would appreciate any suggestions. > > Carla > > littlehouseantiques@att.net wrote: > Wow, John, thanks so much! That's the one - his exec was his bro Henry. > > Does the NA stand for National Archives? Armed w/ these numbers I can > perhaps request copy from there? > > Kathy > > -------------- Original message from "john walton" : -------------- > > > Kathy, I have found the following: > > Michael Shanahan.....Date of Grant.. 16th. March 1830 > Prerogative Court > NA Ref. T/18259 > > > Michael Shanahan....Date of Will 1830 > Prerogative Court > Executor ....Henry Shanahan....Cork > NA Ref. IWR/1830/F/109 > Vol. NAME.. 4/236/16 > > Hope this helps, > > John > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Cris- I wrote you privately, but I got a message that your mailbox was full! So, I'm writing via the list, hoping people won't think this too off topic. My Limerick people (Shea, Fitzerald) settled in Hastings County, Ontario, Canada. Do you know at least the province where yours married? I got the microfilms of the church records by first going on-line to the Mormon site, http://www.familysearch.org. I clicked on Library, then Family History Library Catalog. I like to use the Keyword search. If you put in "Parish Registers Catholic Ontario," you get 246 in that province. The ones I'm currently viewing, from Belleville, are on that list. The ones from Read also come up. However, several years ago, I also viewed the ones from Marysville, but they do not come up in that search. I had to put in Marysville. You have to play around with the words you try, because sometimes indexers choose different subject headings. I print them out, go to the nearest Family Research Center, and they help me put through the order. It costs $6 per reel. It can take a month or two, sometimes longer. They are adding to their collection all the time. Every so often I used to try a search for my grandfather's hometown in Italy. (He died long before I was born.) Nothing ever came up. Last year, all of a sudden, there it was. The Mormons had copied the civil records, and I borrowed them within a year after they were filmed. Sometimes you have to keep trying and hoping! Virginia H. ----- Original Message ----- From: <crazyangel25@webtv.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Cc: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 11:00 PM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Virginia-Canada > Hi Virginia > May I ask please how you got church records for Canada? I would like to > find the marriage of Ellen LANGAN and James CARRIG and have no idea how > or where to even begin with Canada. > Thank you > Cris > Atwater California > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List I've been reading some of the "Ireland Old News" and one page I was reading has a lot of familiar surnames from this list, among them : CRONIN, HAZELTON, MORAN, O'BRIEN, FLANAGAN that's just a few that jumped out at me as I was reading..Thought you might want to take a look if you haven't already seen this. Don't know if there's any connection ut we can always hope. : ) Cris Atwater California http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Mayo/1850/JUL.html

Hi Margaret The article I read said in its entirity <snip> EVICTIONS--V. BROWNE, relieving officer, has had notice served upon him of the eviction of twenty-five families, off the lands of Langan and Moyne, in the electoral division of Moyne, and now in Chancery in re GREVILLE v. BROWN. The unfortunate creatures were turned out of their homes on Monday and Tuesday last.--Tuam Herald." I found it here http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cavan/1852/NOV.html It says Cavan newspaper, but it has articles from Limerick and various places. I dont know where the evictions took place specifically. I'm afraid when it comes to Ireland Iam completely lost. Cris Atwater California

I am sorry but I have been trying to follow this thread and have found so many messages like this one that really does not seem to be about the subject line. Could people please pay more attention to the subject line as it becomes a huge waste of time reading all these incorrect messages. Also the message below is about the O'Brien name which would never be found in the archives as there is no mention of the name in the subject line. Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow & Wexford Guild of One-Name Studies No: 4825 for CULLODEN & HIGGINSON -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mike@obrienclan.com Sent: Saturday, 23 February 2008 7:03 AM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records Hi Judy, Thought I would through this in: My Catherine (C) O'Brien was born 1829, Co Limerick. Emigrated in 1849 to New York and on to San Francisco where she married William O'Brien, born 1824, Co Limerick. They had six children born in San Francisco. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Christopher" <ajuntasc@comcast.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records > My O'briens came from Glenroe Ballyorgan Garryarthur Kilflyn which is > about > 26miles southeast of Limerick City. > I do have a Catherine but I believe she was born in the 1830s. I have > been > trying to find her information and her siblings Information. Catherine > was > the sister of Michael, Daniel, John, and Ann. I have only that she was > the > sponsor of my Granduncle William in 1869 at Kilfyn. Judy > Christopher----- > Original Message ----- > From: "John Walton" <vabre1@optusnet.com.au> > To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 4:08 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records > > >> Hi Judy, >> I noticed your interest in the O'Brien's from Limerick. I have a >> Catherine >> O'Brien born abt. 1805 who married John O'Halloran. Two of their children >> were baptised at St. Michael's and St. John's.Do you think there could be >> a >> connection to your O'Briens.. >> >> Pam...Sydney >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Judy Christopher" <ajuntasc@comcast.net> >> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 7:37 AM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records >> >> >>>i was so very lucky. I was able to get a book full of family >>>heritage from the old Limerick Archives at the Granary before the >>>closed. I wish all could have had the chance to do so. If you know >>>the Civil Parish your family came from you can write to the church >>>and perhaps the priest there >>> will be glad to send any records for a donation to the parish church. >>> Judy >>> Christopher (O'Brien/Fox County Limerick) >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Punch, Candace" <Candace.Punch@warnerbros.com> >>> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 3:26 PM >>> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The Bishop of Limerick has put a hold on all church films in >>>> his control area. He objects to the LDS Practice of doing baptisms >>>> and confirmations for their dead ancestors to seal them in an >>>> eternal chain together. They have gotten a lot of flack for their >>>> beliefs. I find it no different than the Jehovah witnesses and how >>>> many people they actually will be saved, the Catholic belief in >>>> Limbo, or the Shakers, who believe in strict celibacy and no giving >>>> in marriage. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It is simply a religious belief, If it is not your belief it means >>>> nothing to you , right? I feel bad that the Bishop cut millions >>>> off from records that would unite families and give honor to >>>> Ireland as an ancestral home of billions of people. I have been >>>> trying to piece my husband's family together for 22 years. Those >>>> are the records I need. I know his father, Grandfather and the name >>>> of his Great Grandfather. They >>>> were catholic, so you all know how many records were compiled on that >>>> side of the religious line and why. I guess I will have to wait till >>>> the >>>> Bishop dies and hope for a Bishop more concerned with families >>>> gathering >>>> and making Ireland the point of their beginnings, then finding threat >>>> in >>>> some church ceremony which they don't even believe in. Till then we >>>> are >>>> at his mercy, or have to spend a lot of money to hire a professional >>>> there to do the work. The LDS Library had been my life line and they >>>> are in the process of putting histories, books, genealogies and amazing >>>> items in the huge vaults in Cottonwood Canyon that have not had the >>>> ability to do before now. Copies of some of the books that will be on >>>> line were burnt when Hitler burnt the books. The librarians have always >>>> been very helpful and never, ever preachy. Let them believe as they >>>> do. >>>> Because of those beliefs, they will be freely sharing with us, on line, >>>> in the next years, incredible amounts of new information from around >>>> the >>>> world. That to me is a win, win situation.!. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Candace Punch. >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Kerry - would be grateful for any reference to the name SHEEDY many thanks for the offer Joan Williams Killarney Victoria Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" <kerryb@austarnet.com.au> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Bounty Immigration Lookups > Over the next few days only, I will look up Bounty immigrants from Limerick > to Australia 1828-1842 if anyone is interested these records quite often > record the parents names and townland. > > Kerry > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John...ah...I am redfaced now... I asked my Q as a "General" question because the will I have is from County Cork...not County Limerick ...lot of good brain power on this Limerick List :-) and I just figured someone could help me out! So if you have resources to look up wills in Co Cork as well as Co Limerick....this is it: Michael Shanahan, late of the City of Cork, deceased, 29 April 1811, proved 16 March 1830 ---- Original message from "John Walton": ---- What names are you looking for in the Wills Index, I may be able to help. John...Sydney

Right on Virginia I agree with everything you said. Eileen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernard Humphrey" <bhumphre@nycap.rr.com> To: <IRL-LIMERICK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 11:35 PM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Sources & Mormons > As a retired librarian, I feel compelled to put in my 2 cents. > When you talk about Mormon > records, you are talking about TWO different sources!!!! They have made it their business to photocopy church and civil records all over the world. They > are photographs of the originals. > They are the real deal! Anyone > who claims to be into genealogy > who has NOT looked into using > them for so-called religious reasons is missing some amazing sources. I did genealogy for 20 years in pre- > Internet years before latching > onto their wonderful resources! > Last year I got Italian civil records > from my grandparents' home towns. This year it was church > records from Canada. Only this > week I found a marriage in 1835 > they I had always assumed took > place in Ireland! All the church and civil records I have borrowed from them have turned out to be gold mines for me. They have never spoken to me about their religion, have never handed me religious literature, and certainly have never tried to convert me in any way. > Now for the OTHER sources. > Mormons are required to research > their family backgrounds. Many > of them do so with little or no > enthusiasm. I suspect they gladly make inaccurate assumptions, submit them, and > feel their obligations are fulfilled. > I personally would never copy > anybody's submitted records into > my own! You MUST know your > source for every fact. When you > find a family tree submitted on line, YOU DON'T KNOW THEIR > SOURCES. The Mormons are > no more guilty than any of the > people of ancestry.com for submitting errors in family trees! > The rule of thumb should be--if > you don't know the proof behind > a statement, don't accept it as > fact! Contact the submitter and > find out what documentation they > obtained first! > Virginia Humphrey > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Chris, The Ireland Old News usually has the articles broken down into counties or areas. What area is the article listed under? There are 11 townlands with the name of Moyne listed in various counties in the General Alphabetical Index To The Townlands and Towns, Parishes and Baronies of Ireland, and I didn't find Langan as a townland. There are several Langans listed in the Griffith's Valuation in several of the counties that have Moyne as a townland. The Griffith's Valuation Index CD I have doesn't list any Langans in Limerick, but not everyone was listed in the Griffith's Valuation. Beannachtai, Margaret (Máiread)

Yes you are back. Eileen ----- Original Message ----- From: <crazyangel25@webtv.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Cc: <irl-limerick-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 10:09 PM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] testing- sorry > Hi Listers > When I got home from work today there were no posts i my email from the > Limerick List. In checking the archives I see there some posts. We had a > power outage so Im supposing my email bounced back thus unsubscribing > me, so this is just a test to see if I've re-subscribed. Sorry for the > inconvenience. > Cris > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message