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    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] MANGAN
    2. I'm sorry Margaret Platte County Nebraska list has an archive like this list does. Im sorry I have to get to work or I'd find it for you. Its at rootsweb, maybe in the meantime someone here can tell you how to get to it. If you havent found it please email me again this evening ( I'm in California will be home about 8pm)and I'll send it to you. good luck Cris

    02/24/2008 05:49:17
    1. [IRL-LIMERICK] Keane, Kane
    2. Maureen
    3. I am trying to find the family or anyone else who is researching Anne KEANE born 4/11/1810 at Limerick IRL to John and Ann KEANE. Anne 'married' Alexander Robinson and somehow found her way to Wolvenham, England, charged with stealing and was sent with her son William to Australia, arriving 1834. cheers Maureen

    02/24/2008 05:38:39
    1. [IRL-LIMERICK] death cert / obit ?
    2. Hi All I'm wondering if its possible to find a death record or an obituary for a Catherine (Katherine-Kate) LANGAN I have her either born or christened in Askeaton June 10 1858. She was a child when she died. The LANGAN'S as far as I know so far came to the United States about 1876. Thats as close of a time line as I can get. Thanks...and now I'm off to work.. Cris

    02/24/2008 05:37:00
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills
    2. John Walton
    3. Yes Kathy, National Archives it is. Let me know what happens I would be interested. John...Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: littlehouseantiques@att.net To: john walton ; irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills Wow, John, thanks so much! That's the one - his exec was his bro Henry. Does the NA stand for National Archives? Armed w/ these numbers I can perhaps request copy from there? Kathy -------------- Original message from "john walton" <vabre1@optusnet.com.au>: -------------- Kathy, I have found the following: Michael Shanahan.....Date of Grant.. 16th. March 1830 Prerogative Court NA Ref. T/18259 Michael Shanahan....Date of Will 1830 Prerogative Court Executor ....Henry Shanahan....Cork NA Ref. IWR/1830/F/109 Vol. NAME.. 4/236/16 Hope this helps, John

    02/24/2008 05:13:48
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Link for Limerick City Pages
    2. Carla, I don't know what Judy means by Limerick GenWeb but think her reference to the Limerick City pages is to: Limerick City Council Web Pages Local Studies url: http://www.limerickcity.ie/CityLibrary/LocalStudies/ which includes all these online Databases: 1901 Census - Limerick City 1911 Census - County Limerick 1911 Census - Limerick City 1837 Electoral List Griffith's Valuation of Limerick City, 1850 1923 Register of Electors Obituaries & Funeral Notices from the Limerick Chronicle newspaper Limerick City Trades Directories, 1769 to 1920 Local Studies Books & Journals Who's Who of Limerick Newspapers Collection Limerick City Trades Register Online The Seamus O Ceallaigh GAA Collection at Limerick City Library The Mayors of Limerick, 1197-2006 In the database Limerick City Trades Directories, 1769 to 1920 Browsed by trade (Solicitors) There are a total of 612 in ALL Directories between years 1769 and 1925 sorted by Name ASC Page 24 of 62. is where the entries for Fitzgerald, John appear. There are only 3: ID Name Trade RegYear No Address 21705 Fitzgerald John Solicitors 1824 11 Francis Street 44665 Fitzgerald John Solicitors 1809 21704 Fitzgerald John A. Solicitors 1824 Ellen Street Here are the detail records for them: Record Details:#21705 Surname Fitzgerald Forename John Trade Solicitors Address 11 Francis Street RegYear 1824 Directory Pigot Page 285 Direct link to above detail rec: http://www.limerickcity.ie/webapps/TradesReg/RegisterEntry.aspx?ID=21705 Record Details:#44665 Surname Fitzgerald Forename John Trade Solicitors Address RegYear 1809 Directory Holden Page 4 Direct link to above detail rec: http://www.limerickcity.ie/webapps/TradesReg/RegisterEntry.aspx?ID=44665 Record Details:#21704 Surname Fitzgerald Forename John A. Trade Solicitors Address Ellen Street RegYear 1824 Directory Pigot Page 285 Direct link to above detail rec: http://www.limerickcity.ie/webapps/TradesReg/RegisterEntry.aspx?ID=21704 These Limerick City Council Databases are chock full of good info. the 1901 and 1911 census recs are just head of household indexes but if you find something you want to see you can order a copy of the record from the Limerick City Council by contacting mmaguire@limerickcity.ie and sending them €5.00 (per request). Kathy P.S. Thanks for doing lookup on Ancestry on Ann Uniack Will for me! Appreciate it! ----"Carla Johnson" then asked: ----- Hi Judy, Can you give me the link to the Limerick Genweb? I have tried looking for it, but haven't found one with Limerick City Pages on it. Carla -----Judy Christopher wrote: ----- John Fitzgerald is listed as an attorney in the Limerick City pages on the Limerick GenWeb. Judy Chrisopher

    02/24/2008 05:06:20
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Question on wife not mentioned in will
    2. Nick Reddan
    3. Jan Another scenario is that she was provided for in their marriage settlement. These often provided a life rent charge for the widow. Also the eldest son might not be mentioned as the land was entailed and went to them without need of being willed. A lot of marriage settlements were registered in the registry of Deeds -- Regards Nick /Home/ http://members.iinet.net.au/~nickred/ <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Enickred/> /Sites managed/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~registryofdeeds/index.html <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Eregistryofdeeds/index.html> http://www.igrsoc.org/index.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~nickred/majuratennis/ <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Enickred/majuratennis/>

    02/24/2008 04:37:23
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Ireland Old news
    2. I have no idea why they keeo bouncing back. There was a power outage when I was at work yesterdaybut all was ok when I got home and resubscribed to the list.. Im getting them from the list ok..an alternate email address is cdaisy@webtv.net..This one was my daughters before she left home and got married, Ive never changed it because there was a lot of genealogy stuff in it. I feel alittle silly with the name crazyangel LOL Cris

    02/24/2008 04:16:33
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Irish Wills
    2. macha
    3. Try the LDS (Mormon Research rooms). Even here in New Zealand many LDS research rooms have the indexes in their libraries. If not you may be able to order them. Good Hunting. Macha in NZ -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of littlehouseantiques@att.net Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2008 10:34 a.m. To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills Thanks Elaine and Viriginia too...I thought your idea was great and went scurrying back to read the will (yet again) and then...duh...it dawned on me that the wife is conspicuously ABSENT in the will; she is not mentioned at all (silly of me not to notice that I guess) but there ya go. I don't know if I dare assume she pre-deceased him or not but what other reason could there be? What is horribly frustrating is this will was transcribed in 1981 by a professional genealogist and he made no notation of where he obtained it and although this genealogist appears still to be living and working in Co Kildare, Ireland, he has not answered either my emails to him nor my snail mail so I'm left wondering if he totally made this will up! And I guess that brings me to my answer to Marie...I have no idea where you look for Irish will indexes--one would suppose in the local courthouses themselves just as we do here in the US. Any pointers, anyone?

    02/24/2008 04:02:43
    1. [IRL-LIMERICK] forgot to ask
    2. Marie Goforth-Allen
    3. I forgot to ask where Ballinlena is located. Could it be near Knockfierna? Thanks MARIE

    02/24/2008 03:49:54
    1. [IRL-LIMERICK] Cappanihane
    2. Marie Goforth-Allen
    3. Can anyone tell me where Cappanihane is located and the proximity to Castletown- Conyers? Also, how would one go about finding the family of a person living in County Limerick in the 1800-1860 time period? I have looked and I have decided I just don't know where to look. Help please. Thanks, Marie c MARIE

    02/24/2008 03:48:02
    1. [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills
    2. mattse165
    3. I think the same as Virginia. My grandfather's will was not proven until after his wife died 10 years later Elaine NZ

    02/24/2008 03:05:28
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills
    2. john walton
    3. Kathy, I have found the following: Michael Shanahan.....Date of Grant.. 16th. March 1830 Prerogative Court NA Ref. T/18259 Michael Shanahan....Date of Will 1830 Prerogative Court Executor ....Henry Shanahan....Cork NA Ref. IWR/1830/F/109 Vol. NAME.. 4/236/16 Hope this helps, John ----- Original Message ----- From: littlehouseantiques@att.net To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Cc: John Walton Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills John...ah...I am redfaced now... I asked my Q as a "General" question because the will I have is from County Cork...not County Limerick ...lot of good brain power on this Limerick List :-) and I just figured someone could help me out! So if you have resources to look up wills in Co Cork as well as Co Limerick....this is it: Michael Shanahan, late of the City of Cork, deceased, 29 April 1811, proved 16 March 1830 ---- Original message from "John Walton": ---- What names are you looking for in the Wills Index, I may be able to help. John...Sydney

    02/24/2008 03:03:39
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Location of LDS Family History Sites
    2. Thank you! : ) I ha no idea there was a center here. I had asked and was told the nearest one was in Oakland CA. Yosemite Ave, is near where I work. Im so excited I might have to plat hookey from work one day...LOL, wow this is great, Cris

    02/24/2008 03:02:07
    1. [IRL-LIMERICK] for Chris re Langans
    2. barbara-ann aye
    3. Hi there No, I haven't forgotten you. Unfortunately I am visiting friends and do not have access to my computer or notes for a few weeks. I will definitely get in touch shortly. What is your email address or do you prefer I contact you through irl-limerick ? Talk soon Barbara-Ann egan.egan@gmail.com

    02/24/2008 02:47:39
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills
    2. Nick Reddan
    3. Kathy My experience is that will were generally proved quite quickly after the death. There is, however, a list of wills in the National Archives that were never proved. So it is possible. What happened more often was the will would be proved quickly and there would be a grant of administration some time (years) later because executors had died before completing the administration of the will. For example; Michael ADAMS, of Ballycullane whose will dated 3 July 1801 and proved 27 May 1802 had a grant of administration dated 1833. -- Regards Nick /Home/ http://members.iinet.net.au/~nickred/ <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Enickred/> /Sites managed/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~registryofdeeds/index.html <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Eregistryofdeeds/index.html> http://www.igrsoc.org/index.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~nickred/majuratennis/ <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Enickred/majuratennis/>

    02/24/2008 02:19:17
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills
    2. Valerie Garton
    3. CULLODEN and BEDDY please ? Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow & Wexford Guild of One-Name Studies No: 4825 for CULLODEN & HIGGINSON -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Walton Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2008 8:55 AM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills What names are you looking for in the Wills Index, I may be able to help. John...Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: <littlehouseantiques@att.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills > Thanks Elaine and Viriginia too...I thought your idea was great and > went > scurrying back to read the will (yet again) and then...duh...it dawned on > me that the wife is conspicuously ABSENT in the will; she is not mentioned > at all (silly of me not to notice that I guess) but there ya go. I don't > know if I dare assume she pre-deceased him or not but what other reason > could there be? > > What is horribly frustrating is this will was transcribed in 1981 by a > professional genealogist and he made no notation of where he obtained it > and although this genealogist appears still to be living and working in Co > Kildare, Ireland, he has not answered either my emails to him nor my snail > mail so I'm left wondering if he totally made this will up! And I guess > that brings me to my answer to Marie...I have no idea where you look for > Irish will indexes--one would suppose in the local courthouses themselves > just as we do here in the US. Any pointers, anyone? > > -------------- Original message from mattse165 > <mattse165@paradise.net.nz>: -------------- > I think the same as Virginia. My grandfather's will was not proven until > after his wife died 10 years later > Elaine > NZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/24/2008 02:14:00
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Tip on how to find information in the IRL-LimerickMailing List ARCHIVES
    2. Valerie Garton
    3. Thanks for your message Kathy and particularly for the wishes of success. Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow & Wexford Guild of One-Name Studies No: 4825 for CULLODEN & HIGGINSON -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of littlehouseantiques@att.net Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2008 1:53 AM To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Tip on how to find information in the IRL-LimerickMailing List ARCHIVES Valerie, Regarding your comment that the "O'Brien name which would never be found in the archives as there is no mention of the name in the subject line" Here is a TIP to overcome this difficulty.... When you do searches make sure that you use the ADVANCED search option and run two searches--one putting the surname you are searching for in the Subject Line and another search putting the surname you are searching for in the BODY Line (note: not at the same time - run two separate searches!). This way, despite the manner in which the posting was made, you WILL be able to find (hopefully) what you are looking for. (NEVER say NEVER - lol!) The link to use to search ONLY the postings made to this particular mailing list (IRL-LIMERICK) is: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=IRL-LIMERICK You have two options - KEYWORD OR ADVANCED CLICK on the ADVANCED TAB and do as I described above. It is not always easy to find things in the archives so I hope this "TIP" helps someone! We should probably all try to do better with our changing of subject lines, etc. but you should also be aware that changing subject lines is problematice too because changes to subject line often cause you not to be able to read complete "threads" to see how a certain subject progressed--and this can be majorly annoying when you've found a promising line that might pertain to your research only to "lose" it because the posters "changed" the subject line. So, again in this case this is where it comes in handy to use the ADVANCED search options. Happy (and successful!) Hunting! Kathy Researching SHANAHAN and LUBY surnames in Co Limerick, Co Tipperary & Co Cork ------- Original message from "Valerie Garton" <vbgarton@optusnet.com.au>: ------- <snip> > Also the message below is about the O'Brien name which would never be > found in the archives as there is no mention of the name in the subject > line. > > Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. > Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow > & Wexford > Guild of One-Name Studies No: 4825 for CULLODEN & HIGGINSON > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > mike@obrienclan.com > Sent: Saturday, 23 February 2008 7:03 AM > To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] FW: LDS Films in the church records > > > Hi Judy, > > Thought I would through this in: My Catherine (C) O'Brien was born > 1829, Co > Limerick. Emigrated in 1849 to New York and on to San Francisco where > she > married William O'Brien, born 1824, Co Limerick. They had six children > born > in San Francisco. > > Mike ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/24/2008 02:08:00
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills
    2. John Walton
    3. What names are you looking for in the Wills Index, I may be able to help. John...Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: <littlehouseantiques@att.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] General Question on Irish Wills > Thanks Elaine and Viriginia too...I thought your idea was great and went > scurrying back to read the will (yet again) and then...duh...it dawned on > me that the wife is conspicuously ABSENT in the will; she is not mentioned > at all (silly of me not to notice that I guess) but there ya go. I don't > know if I dare assume she pre-deceased him or not but what other reason > could there be? > > What is horribly frustrating is this will was transcribed in 1981 by a > professional genealogist and he made no notation of where he obtained it > and although this genealogist appears still to be living and working in Co > Kildare, Ireland, he has not answered either my emails to him nor my snail > mail so I'm left wondering if he totally made this will up! And I guess > that brings me to my answer to Marie...I have no idea where you look for > Irish will indexes--one would suppose in the local courthouses themselves > just as we do here in the US. Any pointers, anyone? > > -------------- Original message from mattse165 > <mattse165@paradise.net.nz>: -------------- > I think the same as Virginia. My grandfather's will was not proven until > after his wife died 10 years later > Elaine > NZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/24/2008 01:55:00
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Ireland Old news
    2. John Walton
    3. Cris, I keep sending emails directly to you and they keep bouncing back. Do you know as to why? John...Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: <crazyangel25@webtv.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Cc: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-LIMERICK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Ireland Old news > Hi John > Thank you for your reply.May I ask how you know CARRIG is definitely a > Clare name ? Ive been looking for them for a while now and cant find > them, but I will concentrate on Clare now,. Have you happened to come > across the name before? Unfortunately I dont know who Im looking for > LOL. Im trying to find James CARRIG who married Ellen LANGAN in > Canada.Ellen may have been from Askeaton, she was my great grandfather > Maurice LANGAN'S sister. > Thank you again, > Cris > Atwater California > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/24/2008 12:54:09
    1. [IRL-LIMERICK] Canada marriage help needed please & thank youVirginia
    2. Carol Collins
    3. Hi: I saw the posting re: Ontario marriages - Roman Catholic Try checking this site: http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Eonyrbogs/ref_015.htm Regards, Carol Collins _________________________________________________________________

    02/23/2008 11:07:26