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    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] (BUTLER)/Trinity College Dublin
    2. sally
    3. Sean: Thank you for correcting me. I reread Bishop Butler's Bio and sure enough Trinity wasn't listed. I must have been drinking warm Irish beer when I wrote to the list...sorry for wasting everyone's time. Sally --- Sean Sheehan <seancastle14@gmail.com> wrote: > Catholics were banned from attending Trinity right > up to the mid 1900s, but > I am not sure who actually imposed the ban, the > Catholic Church the College > or both, or when the ban began > Sean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

    03/21/2008 02:15:05
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Fantastic Cemetery Websites
    2. Carla Johnson
    3. Hi, Sorry about that. It should have been http://ims.ogdencity.com/cemetery/ . If this doesn't work type in Ogden City Cemetery Page in the address bar and you should find it. Carla ----- Original Message ---- From: Hannigan Family Research <research@hannigangenealogy.us> To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:31:42 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Fantastic Cemetery Websites The link did not work. jch Carla Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > If you guys want to see an awesome cemetery web page go to www.ims.ogdencity.com/cemetery. > This is where some of my husbands family is buried. It was just the names, dob, dod, parents, spouse, plot when I first started looking at it. Now you can click on the plot number and it will show on the map where it is. If you keep clicking on the area that they are buried at eventually you get not only their name but everyone else around them. > > Carla > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/21/2008 02:09:00
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] IFHS info?
    2. Hannigan Family Research
    3. Jan - allow me to share with you what I have found in the Birth and Marriage records. This the the actual 'copy & paste' from the database to show what information is available and what information if in place. Thank you to Kathy for her help in finding records and providing guidance on narrowing down the searches. As you can see from the templates below, not every category is completed. Some people say this doesn't necessarily mean the information is not available, but that not all 'available' information has been recorded. I hope this helps . John Hannigan Florida Baptism Record Name: Patk. Hannigan Date of Baptism / Birth: 06/03/1838 Address: ? Parish / District: BULGADEN Gender: Unknown County Co. Limerick Denomination: Roman Catholic Father: Corn. Hannigan Mother: Margaret Riordan Occupation: Sponsor 1 / Informant 1: Patk. Hannigan Sponsor 2 / Informant 2: Hanora Laffan Notes: Marriage Record Date of Marriage: 25/01/1835 Parish / District: DROMIN & ATHLACCA County: Co. Limerick Husband Wife Name: Cornelius Hannigan Maria Riordan Address: Denomination: Roman Catholic Roman Catholic Occupation: Age: Status: Husband's Father Wife's Father Name: Hannigan Riordan Address: Denomination: Occupation: Husband's Mother Wife's Mother Name: Address: Denomination: Occupation: Witness 1 Witness 2 Name: William Riordan Johanna McEniry Notes: Jan Glasby wrote: > Hi all, > > I've just discovered the IFHS database and was overjoyed to find the > baptism of my gg grandfather, Jeffery KEATING in 1808 in Fedamore, as well > as the burial of (I think) his father, also Jeffery KEATING in 1877 in Croom. > > Could SKS tell me what info is contained on baptism and burial records? I'm > reluctant to get a credit card only to find the info is not worth > purchasing from the IFHS, or if it is available elsewhere. > > I was also wondering if the burial records for Croom have been transcribed? > > Regards > Jan > Qld Australia > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >

    03/21/2008 02:03:05
    1. [IRL-LIMERICK] Fantastic Cemetery Websites
    2. Carla Johnson
    3. Hi, If you guys want to see an awesome cemetery web page go to www.ims.ogdencity.com/cemetery. This is where some of my husbands family is buried. It was just the names, dob, dod, parents, spouse, plot when I first started looking at it. Now you can click on the plot number and it will show on the map where it is. If you keep clicking on the area that they are buried at eventually you get not only their name but everyone else around them. Carla

    03/21/2008 01:26:52
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Alumni Dublineses
    2. Christina Hunt
    3. Sorry John. I don't have copies of those pages. I will try to re-order the film this weekend. Regards, Christina Ireland Genealogy Projects Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/ | Christina, | Would you be able to check for O'Brien and O 'Halloran for me | please. Thank you, John...Sydney | | || To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL- || LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without || the quotes in the subject and the body of the message | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK- | request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes | in the subject and the body of the message

    03/21/2008 01:21:11
    1. [IRL-LIMERICK] McAllister history - Limerick city - some help or advice please
    2. John, (looked, didn't find much!) IFHF confirms following: Type Surname First Name Year County Baptism McAllister Joan 1807 Co. Limerick Parish: ST. MARY'S Baptism McAlister James 1813 Co. Limerick Parish: ST. MARY'S Baptism McAlister Mary 1809 Co. Limerick Parish: ST. MARY'S Marriage Clohessy Ellen 1837 Co. Limerick Parish: ST. MARY'S Marriage McAlister James 1837 Co. Limerick Parish: ST. MARY'S IFHF Search across ALL Ireland for Patrick McAllister Results: Birth Records for Ireland 40 Marriage Records for Ireland 28 Death Records for Ireland 4 Of these records the only ones that look at all likely are: Births: Baptism McAllister Patrick 1788 Co. Limerick Parish: ST. JOHN'S (Possible would have been age 19 at birth of 1st kid Joan) Baptism MacAlister Patrick 1785 Co. Dublin Parish: ?? (Possible would have been age 22 at birth 1st kid Joan) Marriages: Marriage McCallister Patrick 1808 Co. Limerick Parish: ST. MARY'S (first chld joan born 1807 [wrong side of blanket?]) NOTE: If wife's name was really Mary Flaherty a corresponding record for her for 1808 should come up in same parish but although I tried searching in many different ways I couldn't find a 'corresponding' marriage record so this rec very iffy! Deaths: Death McAlister Patrick 1851 Co. Tyrone (Possible? if born 1788 died at age 63; if born 1785 died at age 66 but what was he doing in Co Tyrone? This rec pretty iffy!) Additional Notes: Limerick City Council Web site http://www.limerickcity.ie/CityLibrary/LocalStudies/ Trade Directories Lists 3 McAllisters in city of Limerick as HATTERS ID Name Trade RegYear Address Directory/Page 27370 Catherine McAllister Hatters 1846 Mary Street Directory Slater's Munster/274 29561 Catherine McAllister Hatters 1840 Mary Street Directory Triennial/58 26245 G. McAllister Hatters 1838 Mary Street Directory Deane/86 44641 Dwyer William Hatters 1809 No Street Listed Directory Holden/3 So, back to IFHF to see if Mary Flaherty's name was really Catherine or Mary Catherine Flaherty but still a no go -- no corresponding marriage record in 1808 in Co Limerick. You may find that the G. McAllister listed as a Hatter on Mary Street was Garret McAllister born c1772 in ST. MUNCHIN'S Parish (but that is just huge guess on my part from cross referencing recs at found at Central Signposting (http://www.irishgenealogy.ie) and IFHF. Kathy Rhodes - - - - - - - - - - - "John McAllister" wrote: Greetings to Cathy,Christina,and any other good hearted readers; I am from Melbourne Australia and trying to find McAllister history Limerick, in general, and of one PATRICK McALLISTER,in particular. Patrick McAllister was a hatter in Limerick city;his wife/partner was a Mary Flaherty. They had three children--Joan (8/1807;Mary (1/1809) JAMES( 2/1813). Baptism cert. for James shows he was baptised 13/2/1813 St.Marys Parish Diocese of Limerick,parents as stated and sponsors James Dwyer,Mary Nestor. James married Ellen Clohessy 10/1837 and both then came to Australia. Can anyone help me with ideas/information concerning where PATRICK McALLISTER or when born and/or death. Any information/advice would be gratefully received. John McAllister (rjmcallister@optusnet.com.au)

    03/20/2008 08:28:49
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Search help -Thanks Kathy
    2. melody marshall
    3. Kathy, Even though most messages don't apply to my surname or place search, I really like reading all "research" tips. Thank you for yours. Melody Marshall South Dakota ----- Original Message ----- From: <littlehouseantiques@att.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Ssearch Help - Patrick Hannigan > John, Can't speak as to what it is like in Ireland but in NYC parish > priests don't normally take well to vague requests such as "can you look > up all Hannigan births in your parish?" Usually they want a given name > and a date (or at least a limited date range). What date range would you > give in your case? You've got a birth rec for Patrick Hannigan of 1838 > and no idea where in the birth order he falls. For the sake of argument > lets assume his mother married at abt age 20 and therefore could in all > liklihood bear children for the next 20 years--since you don't know when > she married or what birth order of children is you'd have to search for 20 > years on either side of Patrick's DOB (1838) or in other words from > 1818-1858. So let's use the databases at the IFHF and do that--and find > all the Hannigans who were born and baptised in Bulgaden Parish during > that time period. > > 1st pull all Hannigans (any spelling) in Co Limerick; you get 399 - > ranging from 1758 and onwards (note it won't show you all 399 rather just > the first 10 but they are the first 10 in date order so at least you know > how far back these recs go but you don't know where they end) but that's > okay, we've got a range to check so now we are gonna do that beginning > with 1818 (you can really skip this step and just start looking for > Hannigans with your date range, but I like to check because you might > catch a break and find that for the date range you are researching that > they don't even have recs back to 1818 so it would save some steps to know > this before you start going in year by year) This is NOT the case for this > example though as they've got recs all the way back to 1758 so I'm going > to have to check each and every year in the range. > > 2nd Plug in surname Hannigan (leave given name blank) and plug in first > year of your range. Now copy what comes up for the first year. For > example for 1818 there are two; for 1819 there are 4, etc. When you > finish doing this for the range 1818-1858 you end up with 187 records. > WHY do you have to do this? BECAUSE YOU NEED THE GIVEN NAME of EACH > Hannigan in order to search by Parish. The IFHF site will not let you do a > parish search withOUT having a GIVEN name; it also will not do any > 'variant' matching on given names, i.e. if you enter William and the > record is actually out there under Wm. then it will NOT find the record. > > 3rd take these 187 recs and throw them into a word processing program (MS > Word or whatever you've got) and SORT them alphabetically. This will > group all the different ways the surname is spelled and then within that > will group all of the given names that are the same together--they'll be > out of date order but this will make the next step easier. > > 4th ONE at a time enter the EXACT surname spelling the EXACT given name > and set the parish parameter to the one you are researching (in this case > BULGADEN) and check your list and enter the YEAR for that entry. Working > your way through our list of 187 Hannigans you'll eventually find that > there are only 13 that took place in the Parish of Bulgaden and they are: > > Baptism Hannigan Alice 1840 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN > Baptism Hannigan Joh. 1818 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN > Baptism Hannigan John 1845 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN > Baptism Hannigan John 1845 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN > Baptism Hannigan Kate 1836 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN > Baptism Hannigan Kate 1837 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN > Baptism Hannigan Kate 1847 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN > Baptism Hannigan Maria 1841 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN > Baptism Hannigan Michael 1842 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN > Baptism Hannigan Patk. 1838 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN > Baptism Hannigan Patk. 1838 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN > Baptism Hannigan Patk. 1843 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN > Baptism Hannigan Thady 1842 Co. Limerick Parish: BULGADEN > > NOW, go to that parish priest and ask him to look these up for ya! You > won't be wasting his time and it will be easier for him to find what he is > looking for armed with both NAMES and DATES. Or plunk down your 65 Euros > and see them online :-( > (you know you will have to send "contribution" to the PP for these recs > right? don't know what the "expected" amount is though--maybe less than 65 > Euro? maybe more???) > > Kathy Rhodes > > -- Original message from Hannigan Family Research > research@hannigangenealogy.us>: -- > I appreciate the help in tracking down these records. My next step will > be to get the specific record and contact the parish priest to see if he > can provide additional help. > > Has anyone on the list been successful in a parish priest providing copies > of records? Are they just recorded in a logbook register or are they > actual certificates that provide additional information? I assume that > contacting the parish priest at Bulgaden would be a logical step to see if > there were other siblings. > > Thanks again for the help. > > John Hannigan > Florida > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    03/20/2008 06:15:49
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] (BUTLER)/Trinity College Dublin
    2. Mary Ellen, you are (I think) correct. The info about Bishop George Butler attending Trinity is incorrect.... See http://www.limerickdioceseheritage.org/Diocese/FormerBishops/GeorgeButler.htm where it says: "George Butler (1815-1886) Born in Limerick on February 13th 1815, he was educated at St Munchin's College, and ordained a priest from St Patrick's College, Maynooth on November 26th 1838." I have not yet determined if my LUBY line is Catholic or not (I think not!) And many of the known LUBY lines did attend Trinity (Thomas Clarke Luby of Fenian fame went there as did his father James Luby and his Uncle Thomas Luby). That John Looby (s/o William Looby) that Christina pulled is a new one on me - I shall have to explore his LOOBY line and see where it leads! (Thnx Christina!) Kathy Rhodes Researching SHANAHAN and LUBY surnames Co Limerick, Co Cork and Co Tipperary ---------------------------------------- Mary Ellen Chambers wrote: Someone on the list please correct me if I am wrong but weren't Catholics denied entrance to Trinity in Dublin until approx. the 20th century??? I know when we were investigating entrance info for my youngest son, we did research on it's past history. I no longer have that file since he went to university in the mid 1980s. He stayed in the USA because jobs were scarce at that time in Ireland for young people. If this is correct than a man studying for the priesthood would have been in a seminary either in Ireland or on the continent. Trinity was definitely not a seminary for the Catholic church. Mary Ellen Chambers ------------------------ Christina Hunt wrote: Sally, I am so sorry. I don't see any copes from the Bs. I may re-order the film at my next visit. Regards, Christina ------------------------ Sally wrote: Christina could you check for the name George Butler, I know he attended Trinity College as he became a Roman Catholic Bishop of County Limerick in the 1860s. Thank you. Sally

    03/20/2008 06:14:50
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] (BUTLER)
    2. Christina, might you have some copies from the "L"s? Entries for LUBY would be of particular interest to me. Thnx! Kathy Rhodes --------- Original message from Christina Hunt <filidh@carolina.rr.com>: --------- Sally, I am so sorry. I don't see any copes from the Bs. I may re-order the film at my next visit. Regards, Christina --- Christina Hunt wrote: >From Alumni Dublineses:

    03/20/2008 04:50:52
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] IFHF Database "weirdness" to watch out for
    2. Tom LaPorte
    3. Hi Moira We haven't talked for a while. I've been busy in other counties. I think it is a great thing that the parishes recorded events from other parishes as in your case where the marriage in another country was added to the baptism record. In my case, researching my family in co. Laois (Queen's county back then), I found a reference in the local church register for an Uncle who had died and was buried in Dunleckney, co. Carlow, quite a ways away. I just thought that was interesting but eventually checked the Dunleckney register and found several other family entries including my direct ancestor's missing baptismal record. I would never have checked there if the Dunleckney burial hadn't been recorded in the register back home at the family church in Queen's county. That was one of my biggest breaks ever. A little more research and I established that the family had lived there for 7 years just prior to taking passage to Canada from nearby New Ross. Tom

    03/20/2008 03:02:05
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] From Alumni Dublineses - CARROLL
    2. Carla Johnson
    3. HI, I found my copy of Fitzgeralds from the Alumni Dublineses. Now what I need is to know the time frame for schooling to become an Attorney and a Notary Public. These are the John Fitzgerald who I think might fit my time frame for my gggggrandfather and his son John who also became an Attorney. Also His father was practicing at least by 1804 as an Attorney and Notary Public as I have an Article were he is selling a house in Newton Pery in Limerick. The son John was christened in 1807 at St. Mary's Cathedral in Limerick. Fitzgerald, John Pen (Mr. Spread), July 9, 1751. [N.F.P.] Fitzgerald, John, Pen. (Mr. Meares), July 6, 1779, aged 17; s. of Oliver, Generousus; b. Westmeath. B. A. Vern 1784 Fitzgerald, John, Pen. (Mr. Whyte), Oct 6, 1794, aged 14; s. of Gerald, Clericus S.S. [N.F.P.] Sch. 1797. B.A. Vern. 1799 Fitzgerald, John M. A. Est 1821. Fitzgerald, John Pen. (Rev. Mr. White), July 7, 1823, aged 16; R.C., s. of John, Mercator; b. Kerry Fitzgerald, John, Pen (Mr Graham), NOv 3, 1823, aged 17; R.C., s. of John, Mercator; b. Dublin Carla ----- Original Message ---- From: Christina Hunt <filidh@carolina.rr.com> To: LIMERICK <IRL-LIMERICK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 10:48:37 AM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] From Alumni Dublineses - CARROLL >From Alumni Dublineses:

    03/20/2008 01:53:06
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] McAllister history - Limerick city - some help or advice please
    2. Carla Johnson
    3. Hi, Are you guys looking for these in the St. Mary's Cathedral Protestant? If so I have the film on permanent loan and can look at what I have already copied and have here at home. Then next week I can go take a look at the film if I don't have it here. Carla ----- Original Message ---- From: "littlehouseantiques@att.net" <littlehouseantiques@att.net> To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:28:49 PM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] McAllister history - Limerick city - some help or advice please John, (looked, didn't find much!) IFHF confirms following: Type Surname First Name Year County Baptism McAllister Joan 1807 Co. Limerick Parish: ST. MARY'S Baptism McAlister James 1813 Co. Limerick Parish: ST. MARY'S Baptism McAlister Mary 1809 Co. Limerick Parish: ST. MARY'S Marriage Clohessy Ellen 1837 Co. Limerick Parish: ST. MARY'S Marriage McAlister James 1837 Co. Limerick Parish: ST. MARY'S IFHF Search across ALL Ireland for Patrick McAllister Results: Birth Records for Ireland 40 Marriage Records for Ireland 28 Death Records for Ireland 4 Of these records the only ones that look at all likely are: Births: Baptism McAllister Patrick 1788 Co. Limerick Parish: ST. JOHN'S (Possible would have been age 19 at birth of 1st kid Joan) Baptism MacAlister Patrick 1785 Co. Dublin Parish: ?? (Possible would have been age 22 at birth 1st kid Joan) Marriages: Marriage McCallister Patrick 1808 Co. Limerick Parish: ST. MARY'S (first chld joan born 1807 [wrong side of blanket?]) NOTE: If wife's name was really Mary Flaherty a corresponding record for her for 1808 should come up in same parish but although I tried searching in many different ways I couldn't find a 'corresponding' marriage record so this rec very iffy! Deaths: Death McAlister Patrick 1851 Co. Tyrone (Possible? if born 1788 died at age 63; if born 1785 died at age 66 but what was he doing in Co Tyrone? This rec pretty iffy!) Additional Notes: Limerick City Council Web site http://www.limerickcity.ie/CityLibrary/LocalStudies/ Trade Directories Lists 3 McAllisters in city of Limerick as HATTERS ID Name Trade RegYear Address Directory/Page 27370 Catherine McAllister Hatters 1846 Mary Street Directory Slater's Munster/274 29561 Catherine McAllister Hatters 1840 Mary Street Directory Triennial/58 26245 G. McAllister Hatters 1838 Mary Street Directory Deane/86 44641 Dwyer William Hatters 1809 No Street Listed Directory Holden/3 So, back to IFHF to see if Mary Flaherty's name was really Catherine or Mary Catherine Flaherty but still a no go -- no corresponding marriage record in 1808 in Co Limerick. You may find that the G. McAllister listed as a Hatter on Mary Street was Garret McAllister born c1772 in ST. MUNCHIN'S Parish (but that is just huge guess on my part from cross referencing recs at found at Central Signposting (http://www.irishgenealogy.ie) and IFHF. Kathy Rhodes - - - - - - - - - - - "John McAllister" wrote: Greetings to Cathy,Christina,and any other good hearted readers; I am from Melbourne Australia and trying to find McAllister history Limerick, in general, and of one PATRICK McALLISTER,in particular. Patrick McAllister was a hatter in Limerick city;his wife/partner was a Mary Flaherty. They had three children--Joan (8/1807;Mary (1/1809) JAMES( 2/1813). Baptism cert. for James shows he was baptised 13/2/1813 St.Marys Parish Diocese of Limerick,parents as stated and sponsors James Dwyer,Mary Nestor. James married Ellen Clohessy 10/1837 and both then came to Australia. Can anyone help me with ideas/information concerning where PATRICK McALLISTER or when born and/or death. Any information/advice would be gratefully received. John McAllister (rjmcallister@optusnet.com.au) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/20/2008 01:34:52
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Alumni Dublineses- Correction
    2. Christina Hunt
    3. This was is b. Co. Limerick. Not Tipperary. | PRESTON, George, Pen. (Mr NEEDHAM), Nov. 4, 1822, aged 15 3/4; s. | of Plunket, Generosus; b. Co. Tipperary. | Christina

    03/20/2008 01:12:37
    1. [IRL-LIMERICK] Alumni Dublineses- GONAN, JEPHSON, JERMYN, PRESTON
    2. Christina Hunt
    3. Some assorted names: GONAN, David, Siz. (Mr. CASHIN, Limerick), May 26, 1714, aged 21; s. of Roger, b. Limerick. Sch. 1717. B.A. Vern. 1718 JEPHSON, Edward, Pen. (Mr NOLAN), May 28, 1823, aged 18; s. of William Mercator; B. Limerick. JERMYN, David, Pen. (Mr FARRELL) Oct. 14, 1842, aged 16; s. of Thomas, Clericus; b. Co. Limerick. PRESTON, George, Pen. (Mr NEEDHAM), Nov. 4, 1822, aged 15 3/4; s. of Plunket, Generosus; b. Co. Tipperary. That's all I have for Limerick. A few Latin Terms: generosus -a -um [of noble birth , noble, well-bred]; armiger -gera -gerum [bearing arms]; as subst. , m. or f., [an armor bearer] agricola -ae m. [farmer]. mercator -oris m. [a merchant , wholesale trader] vern- Spring Also Pen. means pensioner. Source. Alumni Dublineses: A Register of the Students, Graduates, Professors, and Provosts of Trinity College, In the University of Dublin. Edited by the Late George Dames Burtchaell and Thomas Ulick Sadleir. 1924 [Source: FHL # 0990388] Christina

    03/20/2008 01:01:09
    1. [IRL-LIMERICK] (BUTLER)
    2. Christina Hunt
    3. Sally, I am so sorry. I don't see any copes from the Bs. I may re-order the film at my next visit. Regards, Christina | Christina could you check for the name George Butler, I know he | attended Trinity College as he became a | Roman Catholic Bishop of County Limerick in the 1860s. Thank you. | Sally | | --- Christina Hunt <filidh@carolina.rr.com> wrote: | || From Alumni Dublineses:

    03/20/2008 12:35:49
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] IFHF Database "weirdness" to watch out for
    2. Yes, thanks George, just as you say these recs for the 3 Catherine Hannigans turned out to be in Charleville...so the database "weirdness" has been explained. Happy Hunting & Happy Easter All! Kathy Rhodes -------------- Original message from "george kelly" <geokel@eircom.net>: -------------- Mitchelstown Co Cork,registration district includes part of SE Limerick.The parishes of Freemount and Charleville,both in the Cork diocese of Cloyne have some county Limerick townlands. ----- Original Message ----- For example, click on Co Limerick and then do a search for Birth Records HANNIGAN, Catherine, 1845 +/- 4 years and it brings back 6 records - 3 of which are in County Cork!!!!!

    03/20/2008 11:01:41
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Reply from IFHF regarding copyright and quoting them as source on Personal Fami
    2. Hannigan Family Research
    3. Kitty - and ALL - I believe the point that IFHF is making is that you CANNOT post their information to a source where you RECEIVE payment for the information. This is a popular position. They want the person who received compensation for the information to be THEM. As long as the information is not posted in a "For-Profit status' you should not be violating the agreements. As James stated - I am not a lawyer or related to a lawyer that I am aware of - just have sufficient dealings in legal matters regarding copyright issues in my work with a Not For Profit newspaper. John Hannigan Florida DUCKEECPS@aol.com wrote: > Regarding the information from Kathy: > "Received a reply from the IFHF about whether or not it is allowed under > their stated copyright notice to quote them as a source in a PERSONAL web site. > Answer is YES!!! Notice that their only caveat is that the site must be > PERSONAL and that it must not CHARGE FEES to access the information." > > So quote away fellow listers and rest assured that you are not violating > anyone's copyright! > > > What about those of us Listers who do not have Personal web sites? I guess > this means that we will not be able to share that information with each other > on this List? What a shame. I was hoping someone would post their > information from IFHF and I just might find people I was looking for, and vice versa. > > Kitty > > > > > > > **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL > Home. > (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

    03/20/2008 10:51:09
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] (BUTLER)/Trinity College Dublin
    2. Mary Ellen Chambers
    3. Someone on the list please correct me if I am wrong but weren't Catholics denied entrance to Trinity in Dublin until approx. the 20th century??? I know when we were investigating entrance info for my youngest son, we did research on it's past history. I no longer have that file since he went to university in the mid 1980s. He stayed in the USA because jobs were scarce at that time in Ireland for young people. If this is correct than a man studying for the priesthood would have been in a seminary either in Ireland or on the continent. Trinity was definitely not a seminary for the Catholic church. Mary Ellen Chambers Christina Hunt <filidh@carolina.rr.com> wrote: Sally, I am so sorry. I don't see any copes from the Bs. I may re-order the film at my next visit. Regards, Christina | Christina could you check for the name George Butler, I know he | attended Trinity College as he became a | Roman Catholic Bishop of County Limerick in the 1860s. Thank you. | Sally | | --- Christina Hunt wrote: | || From Alumni Dublineses: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/20/2008 10:42:12
    1. [IRL-LIMERICK] Reply from IFHF regarding copyright and quoting them as source on Personal Family Web Sites
    2. Received a reply from the IFHF about whether or not it is allowed under their stated copyright notice to quote them as a source in a PERSONAL web site. Answer is YES!!! Notice that their only caveat is that the site must be PERSONAL and that it must not CHARGE FEES to access the information. So quote away fellow listers and rest assured that you are not violating anyone's copyright! Happy Easter! Kathy Rhodes -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- From: "IFHF" <info@ifhf.ie> To: <littlehouseantiques@att.net> Subject: RE: Question regarding your posted Copyright Notice Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:15:50 +0000 Dear Ms. Rhodes Yes, if the site is a personal site and does not charge fees for information which is copyrighted by the centre and the original holders of the record, that should be fine. Yours sincerely IFHF - - - - - - - - - - - From: littlehouseantiques@att.net Sent: 17 March 2008 23:09 To: info@ifhf.ie Subject: Question regarding your posted Copyright Notice Irish Family History Foundation Karel Kiely, Secretary e-mail: info@ifhf.ie Irish Family History Foundation, c/o Riverbank, Main St., Newbridge, Co. Kildare Ireland Dear Ms. Kiely, I have a question regarding your posted copyright notice. If I pay for and receive marriage, birth, or death information from your site; may I reference the information obtained in a personal family tree that I have compiled and which I publish online at a personal family web site? Will I be violating your copyright if I do this? Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely, Kathy L. Rhodes 1760 Valley Green Road

    03/20/2008 09:58:36
    1. Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Alumni Dublineses - GUBBINS (BUTLER)
    2. sally
    3. Christina could you check for the name George Butler, I know he attended Trinity College as he became a Roman Catholic Bishop of County Limerick in the 1860s. Thank you. Sally --- Christina Hunt <filidh@carolina.rr.com> wrote: > From Alumni Dublineses: > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

    03/20/2008 09:20:54