Kathy - do you have a website where you found these that would be helpful to other listers? littlehouseantiques@att.net wrote: > The New York Herald (New York, NY) > Saturday, January 10, 1857; pg. 5; col F > (Death notices) > > DIED. > > LONG -- On Friday Morning, Jan. 9, of consumption, > MARY LONG, a native of Manister, county Limerick, Ire- > land, aged 20 years. > > The funeral will take place this afternoon, at one > o'clock from No. 52 Park street. Her remains will be > interred in Calvary Cemetery. > > NOTES: One portion of Calvary Cemetery is in Brooklyn with > the other portion of it being in Queens. In 1852 the Common > Council of NYC passed a law prohibiting any more burials > in Brooklyn/Manhattan--so based on the date of Mary > Long's death she is likely buried in the QUEENS portion > of this cemetery. Most of the burials in the > Brooklyn/Manhattan portion of the cemetery were of > poor Irish children under the age of 7. The very first > Shanahan in my family line to be born on USA soil > [Patrick Joseph Shanahan 17 Mar 1862-16 Aug 1862] > is buried in the Queens portion of the cemetery. > > Kathy Rhodes > Researching SHANAHAN and LUBY surnames in > Co Limerick, Co Cork and Co Tipperary > Griffith's Valuations: > http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >
I am looking for parents John and Catherine PURCELL. Oldest known child was William b. 1818. Found a wrong one: PURCELL, William 7/6/1818 Parents were John PURCELL and Ann SYNON. Parish Bruff. Sp. Ptk BARRY & El O'BRIEN. If anyone has a William, Bridget, Mary, Julia & Catherine with Parents John and Catherine Purcell - let me know. There were Purcells in Kilmacow who *may* have been relatives. Thanks, Christina Ireland Genealogy Projects Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/
Sorry I'll try again. I realise now that I need to change the layout to make it readable on the list. All are R.C. baptisms Timothy QUAID 8 Feb 1844 Parents: Simon QUAID and Cath. DOODY Parish: Monagea Co Limerick Sponsors: John QUAID & Johanna SULLIVAN Timothy QUAID 4 Mar 1844 Parents: Andrew QUAID and Margaret SULLIVAN Parish: Knockaderry Co.Limerick Sponsors: David QUAID & Cath.O'Brien Timothy QUAID 30 June 1846 Parents: Timothy QUAID & Catherine Parish: Croagh, Co Limerick Sponsors: Jn QUAID & Han Dundon Timothy McQUADE 23 Jan 1847 Parents: Thomas MacQUADE & & Alicia MacMAHON Parish: St. Paul's Arran Quay Co. Dublin Sponsors: James MacQUADE & Teresa MacQUADE Regards Jill Williams Researching COTTER Brosna Co Kerry and Glanworth Co Cork and Cork City QUAID Cloncagh Co Limerick and Cork City MURPHY Carrignavar, Cork WILLIAMS Chester and West Derby, England HARRISON West Derby & Kingsley, Cheshire
Sorry the details in the last message got a little scattered Date Parents Parish Sponsors Timothy QUAID 8 Feb 1844 Simon QUAID Monega Co Limerick John QUAID & and Cath. DOODY Johanna SULLIVAN Timothy QUAID 4 Mar 1844 Andrew QUAID and Knockaderry Co.Limerick David QUAID & Margaret SULLIVAN Cath.O'Brien Timothy QUAID 30 June 1846 Timothy QUAID & Croagh, Co Limerick Jn QUAID & Catherine Han Dundon Timothy McQuade 23 Jan 1847 Thomas MacQUADE & St. Paul's Arran Quay James MacQUADE & Alicia MacMAHON Co. Dublin & Teresa MacQUADE Regards Jill Williams Researching COTTER Brosna Co Kerry and Glanworth Co Cork and Cork City QUAID Cloncagh Co Limerick and Cork City MURPHY Carrignavar, Cork WILLIAMS Chester and West Derby, England HARRISON West Derby & Kingsley, Cheshire
Having checked up on the IFHF site I now know more about my Quaid ancestors. On 18/11/1876 g.grandfather Timothy QUAID farmer aged 32 (?my query) Clouncough married Catherine O'SULLIVAN aged 24 in St Dominick RC Church Husband's father Michael Quaid and Wife's father Daniel O'SULLIVAN Witnesses Thomas AMBROSE and Hanora MULCAHY Also now have R.C. baptismal records for Date Parents Parish Sponsors Timothy QUAID 8 Feb 1844 Simon QUAID Monega Co Limerick John QUAID & and Cath. DOODY Johanna SULLIVAN Timothy QUAID 4 Mar 1844 Andrew QUAID and Knockaderry Co.Limerick David QUAID & Margaret SULLIVAN Cath.O'Brien Timothy QUAID 30 June1846 Timothy QUAID & Croagh, Co Limerick Jn QUAID & Catherine Han Dundon Timothy McQuade 23 Jan 1847 Thomas MacQUADE & St. Paul's Arran Quay James MacQUADE & Alicia MacMAHON Co. Dublin & Teresa MacQUADE Slipped up with the last one - late at night and was not looking closely at what I was ordering. Regards Jill Williams Researching COTTER Brosna Co Kerry and Glanworth Co Cork and Cork City QUAID Cloncagh Co Limerick and Cork City MURPHY Carrignavar, Cork WILLIAMS Chester and West Derby, England HARRISON West Derby & Kingsley, Cheshire
Deb, searches on the IFHF site are free. This is not a "subscription" site where one joins and then has access to all the records...you have to pay for each record individually, so unfortunately no one here on the list can do a "look up" for you to save you any money. You'll have to look yourself, evaluate what you find there and then decide if the record looks promising enough to purchase it. As far as your Patrick Omalley being a priest in the Diocese of Killaloe (that Diocese covers 6 Counties in Ireland (Clare, Tipperary, Offaly, Limerick, Galway, and Laois) so he could have been just about anywhere! Email address for the Diocese is: cildalua@iol.ie Why don't you simply email and ask if they have any record of his having served in that diocese? Kathy Rhodes ------- Original message from "Debbie Fall" <debfall46563@embarqmail.com>: ------- > Can you do look ups on IHFH without paying for the search? If so and If someone > would be so kind, I have been looking for the following: > > Marriage: Thomas C. Omalley, O'Meally etc > Mary (Marg.) Noonan > Believed to be married abt. 1834-1837 > > the children we know to have existed follow: > > Births: Patrick Omalley > January 1837 ? > > Michael Omalley > November 1839 ? > > Edmund O Malley > Jan. 14, 1847 believe he died shortly after > birth, would like to know the date and > location > > Thomas OMalley Jr > born abt. 1848 > > I have paid for look ups in Galway and Tipperary, but nothing can be located. So > I thought maybe records might be in in Cashel Emly records. We believe Thomas's > brother, Patrick, was PP in the Killaloe Diocese and that Thomas followed him > from church to church in which he served. > > Thank you so much for any light you can shed on this family. They have remained > very elusive so far! Debbie
I am posting recently-found info on my Ryan family of Dromalta, Cappamore. James Ryan married Bridget Hayes (date unknown, 1822?). Children: 1. Michael Ryan - baptised Kilduff, Pallasgreen, Sept 7, 1823 2. Catherine Louisa Ryan, born ?, baptised ?. 1828 (family recollection) - this is my great-great grandmother. 3. Mary Ryan - born ?, died 1846 4. John Ryan - born 1832 5. Matthew Ryan - born/baptised 1834, Dromalta, Cappamore. 6. Jeremiah Ryan - born/baptised July 1, 1836, likely Dromalta. 7. James Ryan - born 1839, died 1839 On March 26, 1839, Bridget (Hayes) Ryan died. James Ryan remarried on June 15, 1839. Whom did he marry? I have not been able to find any records,since Cappamore's records of marriage do not begin until 1843. The only clues are: 1. My grandmother remembered her grandmother telling her she had brothers named Jeremiah, Joseph L, and Carlo. Thetwo latter would have been from marriage #2. 2. My great grandmother wrote in her diary that a Mary Hayes had come to visit, in New York City, Aug., 1891, and Mary Hayes told my great grandmother, Mary Elizabeth Haines, that William, son of Mary Hayes, was step-brother to Mary Elizabeth. Was wife #2 a relative of wife #1, and perhaps a widow at time of marriage to James Ryan? Any help welcome! Nancy Peregrine
My cousins and I think the name William had some special meaning to our Flood family. Matthew & Honora named their first son William and all but one of their other children also named their first son William. (That one named his first son after himself and his second son William.) We think perhaps the grandfather was named William or a brother of Matthew's named William became a priest or maybe died young. Does anyone know if there was a custom like that in Ireland that might help us figure it out? I only found one burial record for a William Flood on IFHF but I don't think he's related to our family as there were other William Floods baptized or married in that area. Thanks. Jo ************** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001)
Hi Jo from what Iam told it was customary to name a child the same name as a deceased child. I was also told this occured with at least 2 of my LANGAN ancestors though I've not found any proof. Cris Atwater CA
Can you do look ups on IHFH without paying for the search? If so and If someone would be so kind, I have been looking for the following: Marriage: Thomas C. Omalley, O'Meally etc Mary (Marg.) Noonan Believed to be married abt. 1834-1837 the children we know to have existed follow: Births: Patrick Omalley January 1837 ? Michael Omalley November 1839 ? Edmund O Malley Jan. 14, 1847 believe he died shortly after birth, would like to know the date and location Thomas OMalley Jr born abt. 1848 I have paid for look ups in Galway and Tipperary, but nothing can be located. So I thought maybe records might be in in Cashel Emly records. We believe Thomas's brother, Patrick, was PP in the Killaloe Diocese and that Thomas followed him from church to church in which he served. Thank you so much for any light you can shed on this family. They have remained very elusive so far! Debbie
Ban on Catholics at TCD was lifted as early as 1793.The Catholic Archbishop of Dublin,Dr John Charles McQuaid imposed a form of ban on Catholics attending there in 1944.One needed a special dispensation to attend up to 1960's. ----- Original Message ----- From: <littlehouseantiques@att.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 6:08 PM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Trinity College: Dates Catholics were admitted? > On 21 Mar 2008 Sean Sheehan" < seancastle14@gmail.com> wrote: > > Catholics were banned from attending Trinity right up to the mid 1900s, > but > I am not sure who actually imposed the ban, the Catholic Church the > College > or both, or when the ban began > Sean > > And others on the list seemed to confirm this info....but is it actually > correct? > > I just ran across an obituary for a Colonel Daniel Davis Shanahan (who I > am assuming was Roman Catholic because he was buried in an RC cemetery) > who > attended Trinity College and received his medical degree there BEFORE > 1891. > > His obit as follows: > > The London Times, Monday, Aug 23, 1954; pg. 8; Issue 53017; col D > Category: Obituaries > > COLONEL D. D. SHANAHAN > > Colonel Daniel Davis Shanahan, > C.M.G., D.S.O., died in hospital at Wey- > bridge, Surrey, on Friday, at the age of 91. > > The son of Jeremiah Shanahan, of Tralee, > co. Kerry, he was born April 11, 1863 and > was educated at Blackrock College, Dublin, > and Trinity College, Dublin. After studying > medicine at Trinity College, he entered the > R.A.M.C., in 1891, and saw service on the > North West Frontier in 1897 and throughout > the South African War, being severely > wounded and mentioned in dispatches. > > In 1914 he went to France with the B.E.F. > He later took part in the landing at Suvla > in the Gallipoli campaign, and was again > mentioned in dispatches. After the evacuation > of Gallipoli he returned to France and saw > service on the Somme front, where he was a > third time mentioned in dispatches, and, in > 1917, awarded the D.S.O. He was present > at the taking of Messines Ridge and through- > out the operations in Belgium, ending with the > capture of Passchendaele. He was again men- > tioned in dispatches, and in 1918 he was made > a C.M.G. He retired with the rank of colonel > in 1920. > > He married Henrietta, daughter of Mr. > James Young, of Kingstown, Dublin. She > died in 1919. > Griffith's Valuations: > http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
On 21 Mar 2008 Sean Sheehan" < seancastle14@gmail.com> wrote: Catholics were banned from attending Trinity right up to the mid 1900s, but I am not sure who actually imposed the ban, the Catholic Church the College or both, or when the ban began Sean And others on the list seemed to confirm this info....but is it actually correct? I just ran across an obituary for a Colonel Daniel Davis Shanahan (who I am assuming was Roman Catholic because he was buried in an RC cemetery) who attended Trinity College and received his medical degree there BEFORE 1891. His obit as follows: The London Times, Monday, Aug 23, 1954; pg. 8; Issue 53017; col D Category: Obituaries COLONEL D. D. SHANAHAN Colonel Daniel Davis Shanahan, C.M.G., D.S.O., died in hospital at Wey- bridge, Surrey, on Friday, at the age of 91. The son of Jeremiah Shanahan, of Tralee, co. Kerry, he was born April 11, 1863 and was educated at Blackrock College, Dublin, and Trinity College, Dublin. After studying medicine at Trinity College, he entered the R.A.M.C., in 1891, and saw service on the North West Frontier in 1897 and throughout the South African War, being severely wounded and mentioned in dispatches. In 1914 he went to France with the B.E.F. He later took part in the landing at Suvla in the Gallipoli campaign, and was again mentioned in dispatches. After the evacuation of Gallipoli he returned to France and saw service on the Somme front, where he was a third time mentioned in dispatches, and, in 1917, awarded the D.S.O. He was present at the taking of Messines Ridge and through- out the operations in Belgium, ending with the capture of Passchendaele. He was again men- tioned in dispatches, and in 1918 he was made a C.M.G. He retired with the rank of colonel in 1920. He married Henrietta, daughter of Mr. James Young, of Kingstown, Dublin. She died in 1919.
I learned about the IFHF site through your newsletter and have used it a lot , it can get quite expensive. The marriage records are my biggest complaint, they should let you know who the second party is in a marriage before they make you purchase it. I spent a lot trying to find a marriage between a Mary Cleary and a Patrick Wilmoth with no success. I should have been smart enough to print all of them for anyone that might have been looking for them. I did find a marriage between a Patrick Cleary and a Margaret Egan if anyone is interested, I can be contacted at _jabaschu@aol.com_ (mailto:jabaschu@aol.com) (John Schultz). I will Print any misses I have with IFHF from here on in and will post them on this site, I hope I can help save some people money. John Schultz Looking for Wilmoth,Cleary and Ambrose. **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001)
Is your CLEARY, Limerick specific? Jabaschu@aol.com wrote: I learned about the IFHF site through your newsletter and have used it a lot , it can get quite expensive. The marriage records are my biggest complaint, they should let you know who the second party is in a marriage before they make you purchase it. I spent a lot trying to find a marriage between a Mary Cleary and a Patrick Wilmoth with no success. I should have been smart enough to print all of them for anyone that might have been looking for them. I did find a marriage between a Patrick Cleary and a Margaret Egan if anyone is interested, I can be contacted at _jabaschu@aol.com_ (mailto:jabaschu@aol.com) (John Schultz). I will Print any misses I have with IFHF from here on in and will post them on this site, I hope I can help save some people money. John Schultz Looking for Wilmoth,Cleary and Ambrose. **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001) Griffith's Valuations: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Could have been from anywhere-not necessarily from same parish.Members of other Christian churches also occasionally feature as did those under 18 years. ----- Original Message ----- From: <littlehouseantiques@att.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Sharing Limerick Baptisms- Biggane, Shanahan,Donovan, Flaherty, Moloney, Cregan, Liston > STUPID QUESTION OF THE DAY: In the Lutheran Church (at least here in > Shiremanstown Pennsylvania), godparents/sponsors have to be adults (age 18 > or older) and current members of the SAME church where child is being > baptised. Is it the same (or was it the same in 1871 in Ireland) in the > Roman Catholic Church? > > In other words, can I assume the sponsors Michael Biggane and Hana > Shanahan listed on the following baptism, were both ADULTs (i.e., at that > time period over 21) and attended the RC Church in BALLYAGRAN and > therefore could have lived in ANY of the following townlands: > > Ballyagran, Ballybane, Ballysalla, Caherclogh, Cappanihane, Cappananty, > Castletown, Cloonee, Coolagowan, Creggane, Croghteen, Dreenaan, > Drewscourt, Drewscourt West, Fort East, Fort Middle, Fort West, > Foxhall East, Foxhall West, Gortroe(Castletown), Gortroe(Charleville), > Graigue, Incha, Killacolla (Barker), Rossbane, Rossmore > > Kathy Rhodes > > > ------- Original message from "Karen McGann" <imhear@comcast.net>: ------- > > <snip>... > Name- Honora Biggane > Date- 19/02/1871 > Parish- BALLYAGRAN > County- Limerick > Father- Michael Biggane > Mother- Hana Shanahan > Sponsor 1- Jn. Biggane > Sponsor 2- Hana. Shanahan > Roman Catholic > ...<snip> > Griffith's Valuations: > http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
STUPID QUESTION OF THE DAY: In the Lutheran Church (at least here in Shiremanstown Pennsylvania), godparents/sponsors have to be adults (age 18 or older) and current members of the SAME church where child is being baptised. Is it the same (or was it the same in 1871 in Ireland) in the Roman Catholic Church? In other words, can I assume the sponsors Michael Biggane and Hana Shanahan listed on the following baptism, were both ADULTs (i.e., at that time period over 21) and attended the RC Church in BALLYAGRAN and therefore could have lived in ANY of the following townlands: Ballyagran, Ballybane, Ballysalla, Caherclogh, Cappanihane, Cappananty, Castletown, Cloonee, Coolagowan, Creggane, Croghteen, Dreenaan, Drewscourt, Drewscourt West, Fort East, Fort Middle, Fort West, Foxhall East, Foxhall West, Gortroe(Castletown), Gortroe(Charleville), Graigue, Incha, Killacolla (Barker), Rossbane, Rossmore Kathy Rhodes ------- Original message from "Karen McGann" <imhear@comcast.net>: ------- <snip>... Name- Honora Biggane Date- 19/02/1871 Parish- BALLYAGRAN County- Limerick Father- Michael Biggane Mother- Hana Shanahan Sponsor 1- Jn. Biggane Sponsor 2- Hana. Shanahan Roman Catholic ...<snip>
Hi Bob, I'm looking for: Catherine, Daniel, Mary, Michael and Patrick O'CONNOR or CONNORS from townland(s) of Dromsally (aka Dromsallagh, Drumsallaght ) and/or Cappamore County Limerick who arrived shortly before 1859 in the MA, Boston/Somerville area. Kathy Rhodes -------------- Original message from RTENNIHAN@aol.com: -------------- > Hello. > My O'connor family arrived in Boston in the early 1850's from > Limerick. What names are you looking for. My family lived in South Boston. > > Best wishes. > Bob > > > > **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL > Home. > (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030 > 000000001) > Griffith's Valuations: > http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
Cris, I don't know who sent you that marriage record either but the IFHF records suggest it may be correct. As I told you there is a marriage record in 1834 for Cornelius as follows: Marriage Kennelly Cornelius 1834 Co. Limerick Parish: ASKEATON and there IS one Corresponding NESTOR marriages in Askeaton in 1834: as follows: Marriage Nestor Margaret 1834 Co. Limerick Parish: ASKEATON I can't confirm your date of 27 Nov. 1834 for this marriage; you'd have to spend the 5 Euro to view the record and find out if this date is correct (and I should warn you just because there is a Margaret Nestor being married in Askeaton in 1834 and a Cornelius Kennelly same year same place does NOT mean that they married each other; this is a serious flaw in the marriage database at IFHF if you ask me -- they ought to cross reference bride and groom records...but they don't so you will be taking a stab in the dark here!) What I find interesting about this is that I bought a baptism record for a Denis Shanahan (born 3 Mar 1830 in Askeaton) parents turned out to be Daniel Shanahan and Mary NESTOR. Witnesses were Michael Kennelly and Mrs. O'Grady. The Mary Nestor mentioned here could be your Margaret/Mary Nestor (when she was still single, 4 years before she married Cornelius Kennelly?) and possible I suppose that the witness Michael Kennelly was a relative of Cornelius as well? Irelandoldnews.com has some online obits but I couldn't find one for a Cornelius Kennelly or a Mary or Margaret Kennelly. Here is what I found on the kids at IFHF: Baptism Kennelly Margaret 1836 Co. Limerick Parish: ASKEATON Baptism Kennelly Michael 1839 Co. Limerick Parish: ASKEATON Baptism Kennelly Peter 1842 Co. Limerick Parish: ASKEATON (No recs of a birth of a 2nd Michael Kennelly from 1842-1848 in Askeaton) Baptism Kennelly Thomas 1848 Co. Limerick Parish: ASKEATON Don't know if you would want to order the kids recs as you apparently already have their dates but paying to view at least 1 of them would definitely confirm their parents. Happy Hunting! Kathy Rhodes -------------- Original message from crazyangel25@webtv.net: -------------- Kathy thank you so much! This is fantastic I tried the IFHF site but only came up with the year of death,I must have been doing something wrong. Mary's maiden name was NESTOR. This is awesome I will lok at it more carefully I wanted to thank you first. Some time ago someone sent me ths but I dont know if it s accurate, as it was an email with no sources listed Cornelius KENNELLY married Margaret (or Mary) NESTOR 27 Nov. 1834 Some of their children were: Margaret born 6 Oct. 1836 ( married Maurice LANGAN died 1903 in Nebraska) Michael born 12 Oct. 1839 Peter born 25 Jan. 1842 Thomas born 3 Oct. 1848 There are further records, census, etc. which suggest that the first Michael (1839) probably died and another son was born between Peter and Thomas and that that son was also named Michael (but I have no birth record for him)." Ive never seen or found anything, The above is the extent of what I know Where would I find or order Civil Records? Burial? Are there obituaries online that anyome knows of for 1885 County Limerick? This is great Kathy, thank you again. Have a great weekend,wish I didnt have to work I want to persue this... Cris
I purchased a Burial Record last week: It stated, Name, Date of Death, Age, Parish/District, Address i.e. township, County of Limerick, Denomination and Sex. Nothing else. No Informant. No Graveyard or Church....dated 1862. I still found it useful, giving the age and date of death. Cheers, Robyn Australia
I do have a Thomas O'connor in the family at that time, but he lived in South Boston, Ma all his life. Bob **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001)