Now there is a reasonable and optimistic outlook. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JoForLife@aol.com> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:25 AM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] IFHF >I do think they need to improve things as time goes on but it sounds to me > like they are being responsive to the feedback they're getting. > > Auto responses are nothing new, imagine how many emails they get! But they > responded to me personally when I had questions about specific records and > someone also shared an email from them about how they're considering the > possibility of giving more information to help with marriages (I deleted > it so can't > reference it accurately) and they decided to keep the price at 5 euros for > a > longer time, all due, I'm sure, to the feedback they're getting. > > It's not much more, and less in some cases, than getting records here in > the > US, and we don't get to see the records first, either. In fact, we have to > pay > for the search, whether or not the record is even found, and then it can > be > the wrong record, anyway. > > I think constructive criticism will help make the service better, more > than > talking people out of using it will. Personally, I would rather they had a > subscription-style service. Maybe there will be a deal with Ancestry in > the > future. I don't know if that would be good or bad. lol > > I'm sure they're getting lots of complaints so I'm going to let them know > that I appreciate them making the information available online and keeping > the > price low, and that when I learn enough about my other Irish families to > start > looking for records on them, I hope the IFHF is still there and even > better. > > Jo > > > ************** > Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL > Home. > (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&amp; > ncid=aolhom00030000000001) > Griffith's Valuations: > http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Your email is insulting and unnecessary. Why don't you "give it away"? ----- Original Message ----- From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> To: <IRL-LIMERICK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:37 AM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Limerick List >I wish an end to all of the complaining that goes on on this list. > If something can't be found,maybe it is not there! There are a great many > brick walls in Irish research, no fault of organisations like IFHF. Far > to many people get angry if they pay money & there are not results, this > is what research is all about. > If you can't afford to research maybe you should give it away, I don't > think that it is going to get any cheaper as more & more people are > researching these days. I have many books & Irish records are very > splintered, a lot of them are not complete. > I have been told that there are many many records that are still not > cataloged as yet & there lies another problem, finding volunteers. > > A great many of us get good results from these places, we are the silent > ones. > > Robyn > Griffith's Valuations: > http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The New York Herald (New York, NY) Monday, April 23, 1860; pg. 7; col E (Death notices) DIED. BOURKE -- On Sunday, April 22, HANNAH BOURKE, a na- tive of Pallis Green, county Limerick, Ireland, in the 73d year of her age. The relatives and friends of the family are respectfully invited to attend her funeral, on Tuesday afternoon at two o'clock, from her late residence, 570 Eighth avenue. NOTES: Pallis Green is incorrectly spelled [not a mistranscription]. Proper spelling is PALLASGREEN or PALLASGREAN.

Where are you finding these obituaries???? ----- Original Message ----- From: <littlehouseantiques@att.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Surname: NOONAN : 1860 Obituary : Native of Co Limerick > The New York Herald (New York, NY) > Wednesday, October 03, 1860; pg. 7; col E > (Death notices) > > DIED. > > NOONAN -- On Tuesday, October 2, TIMOTHY NOONAN, na- > tive of county Limerick, Ireland, aged 64. > > The relatives and friends of the family, and those of > his son, Thos. C. Noonan, are respectfully invited to at- > tend the funeral, this (Wednesday) afternoon, at two > o'clock, from No. 147 West Twenty-first street. > > Notes: Based on age at death TIMOTHY NOONAN > was born circa 1796. > Griffith's Valuations: > http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This service gives people another choice - 'choice' being the operative word. I, for one, was v.excited when I first learned the IFHF was making all these records available for searching online. I can't necessarily afford to splurge loads of money on buying credits just at the moment - but at least I know the possibility of research, in my own time, is there now (my ancestors are in the dreaded Cashel and Emly diocese, parish records for which the Archbishop has banned access to at the National Library, as I'm sure you all know about!) It may not be perfect yet, but the IFHF has at least opened up some opportunities that weren't available before for everyone. Cheers, Mags

Mary Ellen~ Thanks for the info about ages of baptism sponsors. Can I assume that it would be fairly unusual for the sponsor to be a teen? Also can anyone tell me if it has benefited them much in their research to figure out the relationship of the sponsor to the child being baptised? I guess what I'm asking is.... Do you find mostly that the sponsors are relatives of some sort and it is therefore wise to pay attention to and spend time researching them? OR Do you find that in the main they are merely friends and not relatives and chasing after them is not worth the time and effort? Thanks! Kathy Rhodes -------------- Original message from Mary Ellen Chambers <maryln61@sbcglobal.net>: -------------- Kathy~ Don't assume the age of Baptism sponsors. There are many incidences both in Ireland and in the USA in the Catholic church where sponsors are in their early teens. Also, grandparents have also been sponsors. "Back in the day" they had to be practicing Catholics. However, I have been to two over the past few years where one of the godparent's was not Catholic. One MUST be Catholic but not necessarily the other, per our pastor. I had questioned him after the service. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Sharing Limerick Baptisms- Biggane, Shanahan,Donovan, Flaherty, Moloney, Cregan, Liston STUPID QUESTION OF THE DAY: In the Lutheran Church (at least here in Shiremanstown Pennsylvania), godparents/sponsors have to be adults (age 18 or older) and current members of the SAME church where child is being baptised. Is it the same (or was it the same in 1871 in Ireland) in the Roman Catholic Church? In other words, can I assume the sponsors Michael Biggane and Hana Shanahan listed on the following baptism, were both ADULTs (i.e., at that time period over 21) ...<snip>... Kathy Rhodes

Hi Mike, That is very nice of you. I am researching the names Kearney and variations of that name. Also Scanlon/Scanlan. My 3x great grandfather was John Kearney born 1806 in Glin. I am presuming that Glin is in Kilfergus, but that is open for debate as there maybe another Glin that changed it's name which is not located in Kilfergus. John's wife was Mary Scanlon, born 1815. Thank you very much. Regards, Liz mike@obrienclan.com wrote: Hi Liz, I have the book you want. Most of the info is about surnames with a little additional information for the county. I can look up what ever name you need. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Dow" To: "Ireland Limerick-roots web" Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 7:13 AM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Book,Families of County Limerick Ireland by Michael C. O'Laughlin > Hi Everyone, > > I am thinking of ordering the above book. Does anyone have any opinions > of the book or should I buy another one. I thought I should ask because it > is a rather pricey book. > > What other books do people recommend or not. Thank you for your advice. > > Researching Kearney and Scanlon in Limerick. > > Thanks, Liz > > > --------------------------------- > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster > Total Access, No Cost. > Griffith's Valuations: > http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Griffith's Valuations: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.

I am so glad to read a posting about Pallas Grean. I have been trying for the last few years to find info re: my ancestor. His name was Matthew Ryan and family notes say he died in Pallas Grean in 1855. I've yet to find a discussion on this list about any Ryans from this town -- yet I'm told the name was so common you must also know the family's "nickname". Kathy Reed ---- littlehouseantiques@att.net wrote: > The New York Herald (New York, NY) > Monday, April 23, 1860; pg. 7; col E > (Death notices) > > DIED. > > BOURKE -- On Sunday, April 22, HANNAH BOURKE, a na- > tive of Pallis Green, county Limerick, Ireland, in the 73d > year of her age. > > The relatives and friends of the family are respectfully > invited to attend her funeral, on Tuesday afternoon at > two o'clock, from her late residence, 570 Eighth avenue. > > NOTES: Pallis Green is incorrectly spelled > [not a mistranscription]. Proper spelling is > PALLASGREEN or PALLASGREAN. > Griffith's Valuations: > http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Liz, I have the book you want. Most of the info is about surnames with a little additional information for the county. I can look up what ever name you need. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Dow" <juliegoolyyarmouth@yahoo.com> To: "Ireland Limerick-roots web" <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 7:13 AM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Book,Families of County Limerick Ireland by Michael C. O'Laughlin > Hi Everyone, > > I am thinking of ordering the above book. Does anyone have any opinions > of the book or should I buy another one. I thought I should ask because it > is a rather pricey book. > > What other books do people recommend or not. Thank you for your advice. > > Researching Kearney and Scanlon in Limerick. > > Thanks, Liz > > > --------------------------------- > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster > Total Access, No Cost. > Griffith's Valuations: > http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

We are getting off topic. Let's get back to queries, family, genealogy. Take opinions on the List and the Hertiage Center off list please. Christina List Admin

Hi Everyone, I am thinking of ordering the above book. Does anyone have any opinions of the book or should I buy another one. I thought I should ask because it is a rather pricey book. What other books do people recommend or not. Thank you for your advice. Researching Kearney and Scanlon in Limerick. Thanks, Liz --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.

Kathy~ I do not think one should ignore the sponsors in any sacramental record found. They may be as I call it the "back" door to information. I figure if the surname is the same then it is most likely a sibling, cousin, in-law, aunt/uncle. Usually someone who will be of an age to be alive to see the child to adulthood with guidance, spiritual and material. Most of the records if you are lucky enough to find, have the townland/village of the sponsor so this would be a clue to the rest of the family. 19th century and earlier Irish did not travel too far from home, especially if they were poor. Mary Ellen littlehouseantiques@att.net wrote: Mary Ellen~ Thanks for the info about ages of baptism sponsors. Can I assume that it would be fairly unusual for the sponsor to be a teen? Also can anyone tell me if it has benefited them much in their research to figure out the relationship of the sponsor to the child being baptised? I guess what I'm asking is.... Do you find mostly that the sponsors are relatives of some sort and it is therefore wise to pay attention to and spend time researching them? OR Do you find that in the main they are merely friends and not relatives and chasing after them is not worth the time and effort? Thanks! Kathy Rhodes -------------- Original message from Mary Ellen Chambers : -------------- Kathy~ Don't assume the age of Baptism sponsors. There are many incidences both in Ireland and in the USA in the Catholic church where sponsors are in their early teens. Also, grandparents have also been sponsors. "Back in the day" they had to be practicing Catholics. However, I have been to two over the past few years where one of the godparent's was not Catholic. One MUST be Catholic but not necessarily the other, per our pastor. I had questioned him after the service. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Sharing Limerick Baptisms- Biggane, Shanahan,Donovan, Flaherty, Moloney, Cregan, Liston STUPID QUESTION OF THE DAY: In the Lutheran Church (at least here in Shiremanstown Pennsylvania), godparents/sponsors have to be adults (age 18 or older) and current members of the SAME church where child is being baptised. Is it the same (or was it the same in 1871 in Ireland) in the Roman Catholic Church? In other words, can I assume the sponsors Michael Biggane and Hana Shanahan listed on the following baptism, were both ADULTs (i.e., at that time period over 21) ...... Kathy Rhodes Griffith's Valuations: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I do think they need to improve things as time goes on but it sounds to me like they are being responsive to the feedback they're getting. Auto responses are nothing new, imagine how many emails they get! But they responded to me personally when I had questions about specific records and someone also shared an email from them about how they're considering the possibility of giving more information to help with marriages (I deleted it so can't reference it accurately) and they decided to keep the price at 5 euros for a longer time, all due, I'm sure, to the feedback they're getting. It's not much more, and less in some cases, than getting records here in the US, and we don't get to see the records first, either. In fact, we have to pay for the search, whether or not the record is even found, and then it can be the wrong record, anyway. I think constructive criticism will help make the service better, more than talking people out of using it will. Personally, I would rather they had a subscription-style service. Maybe there will be a deal with Ancestry in the future. I don't know if that would be good or bad. lol I'm sure they're getting lots of complaints so I'm going to let them know that I appreciate them making the information available online and keeping the price low, and that when I learn enough about my other Irish families to start looking for records on them, I hope the IFHF is still there and even better. Jo ************** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&amp; ncid=aolhom00030000000001)

my previous post was not meant for the list, I hit reply all in error. My apologies. Cris

obviously not very silent you felt the need to comment that you have had good luck,and if I cant afford it to give up. What luck specifically have "you" yourself had with IFHF? I did ask if anyone had any good experiences if they would share them›.I didint see that, did I miss it? and to tell me to give up because I cant afford it.You know nothing of my circumstances. I am not alone in this or in how I think. I wasnt trying to start an argument but I feel some of your comments warrent a reply. I think your comment if we cant afford it to give it away, did you mean it up? Some of us arent quite so lucky to be able to waste money. I guess you can afford to, I cant so to tell me to give up on something I too enjoy tells me you think that this is a hobby (for lack of a better word) for only people who can afford it. and the heck with the rest of us... I didnt feel that comment was necesary at all. You also had the choice of not reading my post. Now we have both had our say so lets end it ok. Have a good evening Cris

That I am Kathy, I have quite a bit of mention of the families you are after, even one lot I can see related to a Bishop. Hopefully on the weekend I can sit down & send it all to you. I don't only look at the Hospital book, I have a few others of use. Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <littlehouseantiques@att.net> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Book of Hospital & environs > Great Robyn, I'm thrilled! (You ARE talking about my inquiry > to you regarding SHANAHAN and SLATTERY surnames in the book > of HOSPITAL, right?) > > Kathy Rhodes > > ------- Original message from "les wright" > <olgeta@bigpond.net.au>: ------- > Hello Kathy, > > I will contact you further regarding the names you asked me to look at, I > have a fair bit of information for you. > Robyn > > ------- Original message from <littlehouseantiques@att.net>: ----- > Robyn, > Know you are probably tired of doing look-ups in > your book of Hospital by now, but if you've the > time and inclination I'd greatly appreciate your > checking it for: > John SHANAHAN and Johanna SLATTERY. > This couple married and had at least one son named > Michael SHANAHAN born in Hospital on 26 Feb 1841. > Other possible children are: > Margaret SHANAHAN born 1849 in Hospital > Denis SHANAHAN born 1839 in Hospital > Possible name of Johanna SLATTERY 's mother (or > sister): Margaret SLATTERY. > > Thanks so much! > Kathy Rhodes > > Researching SHANAHAN and LUBY surnames > Griffith's Valuations: > http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi All I am new to this so, if I am out of line please let me know. I desperately need help in finding out something about my great grandmother. Her name was Anne McCoy, my mother thought it was Bridget but, when she married William Harold in London, she was Anne. All I know is that she was probably born about 1830ish in Limerick. William was supposed to have been born in Derry in 1821 and, needless to say, I can't find out anything about him either. Oh, yes! I believe her father was John McCoy and there was a Catherine and a Margaret. She is also supposed to have had a priest for a brother. If anyone has any information I would be very grateful. Regards Monica

Hi Jo we are all certainly enitled to our own opinion and yours is valid also. But I will contiune to tell people its not worth it. I would have to go through 20 woman to find the "one" Im looking and the other one...how many Mary RILEY'S would I have to pay for? well way more than I could ever pay for! Much to costly to waste time and money in such a manner, at least for me. I cannot afford to do frivilous searches hoping that I just might find the correct person. I will stand by my opinion until I am shown actual proof that this service might be worth it. Even then I sincerely doubt I would pay for it. I have gotten some "possible" leads for one person Cornelius KENNELLY but even thats a long shot. Iam really interested inwhat kind of luck you and others have with them, it might give me some hope : ) Cris

Glin is a very common place name more often than not combined with other words such as Glensharrold, or Glinbrolane etc. In fact Glin was also known as Glincobhra (this spelling may not be correct)However I am not aware of another "GLIN" in County Limerick. Sean -----Original Message----- From: irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-limerick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Dow Sent: 01 April 2008 18:50 To: irl-limerick@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Two Glins? Hi Rita, Thank you! This information will help a lot of people out that are researching Glin. Regards, Liz PVMeistrel@aol.com wrote: I've heard this too from someone who researched it years ago. I know I have it in my notes somewhere but can't find it at the moment. I'll keep my eye open for it as I file information away. If I find it, I'll post it here for you. Rita > I have just been notified by someone who tells me that there was a townland Glin that is now >called something else. I am aware of the townland Glin in Kilfergus Limerick. This Glin townland, I >got the impression, is not in Kilfergus, but in another part of Limerick. Does anyone know of this >Glin? What is the modern day name of the town? **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom0 0030000000001) Griffith's Valuations: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. Griffith's Valuations: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What I have in my tree Eileen Descendants of Michael Enright 1 Michael Enright b: in Co. Limerick, Ireland . +Ellen Minihan b: June 09, 1857 in Co. Limerick, Ireland Baptism: June 10, 1857 m: in Ireland d: Bef. 1929 in per Barbara Walsh will ........ 2 William Enright d: Bef. 1994 in per Robert Kearney's notes ........ 2 Patrick Enright d: Bef. 1994 in per Robert Kearney's notes ........ 2 John Enright d: Bef. 1994 in per Robert Kearney's notes ........ 2 Unknown Enright d: Bef. 1994 in per Robert Kearney's notes ----- Original Message ----- From: <PVMeistrel@aol.com> To: <irl-limerick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Shanahan/Enright > > Have you posted your Shanahan/Enright marriage yet? I have a Michael > Enright who married Mary Shanahan. > Rita > >>ALSO I'd be interested in seeing what ENRIGHT marriages >>you ended up with as I ran across a SHANAHAN / ENRIGHT >>marriage in my "misses" too. > > > > > > > **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL > Home. > (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001) > Griffith's Valuations: > http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LIMERICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message