Pat, I have been following this sight for some time, learning much from all of you listers in my family search. Thanks to all! I have to date not ventured on here, as I didn't think I had anything to contribute. But, upon seeing Knockainy I took notice. I recently learned my gr.gr.gr. grandfather Maurice Kirby was living in Knockainy when he married my gr.gr.gr. grandmother Mary Ryan, whose address was Hospital Parish. They were married in Feb., 1825. This info is from their Marriage Record at the Archdiocese. Their marriage was witnessed by John Ryan and Michael O'Carroll at Hospital Parish. Maurice and Mary's first child, Margaret, was baptized in Hospital Parish in March 1826. I assume he had relocated to Hospital after their marriage. Or, perhaps they returned to Hospital Parish for their first child's baptism. Now back to your question of people moving from where they were born and raised; Maurice and Mary both moved from their Parishes as their next child, John Kirby was baptized in the Emly parish in 1830, as were their next six children. Maurice may have owned a dry goods store in Emly, at least family correspondence indicates some of the Kirby family operated a store in Emly. Maurice Kirby's name shows up as a resident in the village of Emly in Griffth's. So, yes they moved and geminately relocated. I have the names and birthrates of all 8 Kirby children that lived in Emly, if anyone is interested I would share this info. Or if anyone has information on the Kirby family that owned a dry goods store in Emly I would love to learn about that. I believe 6 of Maurice and Mary Kirby's children immigrated from Emly to Cleveland, Ohio, USA, between 1850 and 1862. My gr.gr grandmother was Catherine Kirby, born Oct.,1838. Married Laurence Mulligan in Cleveland, Ohio abt. 1863. Best regards, Kim Bender, Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Connors" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 7:19 PM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Knockainy Civil Parish, County Limerick > Last week, I transcribed the tithe applotments for this civil parish which > is located not far from the County Tipperary border. One of the names I > found was Bryan O'Connor living in Baggotstown, the same name as my gr gr > gr > grandfather. The tithes were dated 1833. His son, Timothy, my gr gr > grandfather, was born ca 1810 so this could be my ancestor, however, > Timothy's death cert has him and his parents born in County Tipperary. > Also, Timothy was married in Tipperary RC parish but that is also where > his > wife was born and raised and usually one did get married in the wife's > church. > > To add to this, I have also found a Timothy Connors in 1851 cited for > leaving an unharnessed cart while in Tipperary Town. The clerk (Petty > Sessions Court) wrote his address as 'Garryspillane, Galbally Parish. > While > close to Galbally Civil Parish, Garryspillane was actually located in > Ballyscaddan Civil Parish which is also not far from County Tipperary or > Knockainy Civil Parish. > > Until I can see the RC records for the area, I don't know whether this is > my > Bryan O'Connor or not but I have been doing these tithes for years now and > have never found a Bryan O'Connor/Connors before so this one really gets > me > wondering if this is mine. Looking at the Discovery Map for the area, it > looks like Baggotstown is about 6 or so miles from Emly in County > Tipperary. Timothy emigrated to Troy NY where his brother William lived. > On Williams' gravestone, it says he was born in Emly RC Parish, County > Tipperary. In 2008, while I was in Dublin, I looked at the Emly RC Parish > fairly quickly due to time constraints. For the time period of my search > for William and/or Timothy's births, there were gaps in the records, so > not > finding their baptisms was not conclusive. > > So this brings me to my questions. Is it possible, that they moved around > and didn't stay put in the area where they were born and raised? Did they > follow the work? Any opinions? I don't know if it is wishful thinking on > my > part but I have a strong feeling that this might just be the guy I have > been > looking for and was wondering what others, familiar with the area thought. > > Thanks in advance for your opinions. > > > > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3320 - Release Date: 12/16/10 19:34:00

Hi, I asked Sheila how she got all the info on her relative, it was so detailed. Great stuff. Thank you. Maggie the Dub On 7 Feb 2011, at 20:54, Basil Kealey <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks for this,however I fail to see what it has to do with my ancestors,Kealy-Keiley's from Ballylahiff--1826--.Maybe there is some relevance-Let me know-Basil ----- Original Message ----- From: "sheilathoman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Clohessy, Cloughesy I learned of the event from Mainchin Seoighe's book From Bruree to Corcomohide pp. 329-30. Seoighe referenced National Archives No. 17979c. which works out to be an Outrage Report submitted by the local constable to his superior. This consisted of the constables account of what happened and notes on actions taken, for instance the posting of a reward and a notice that a description of the culprit was to be placed in the "Hue and Cry", a kind of police gazette. Next steps were to try to find accounts in newspapers including the Hue and Cry. I learned that he had been arrested from an article in the Limerick Chronicle but had no luck with the Hue and Cry (LDS film 951968). The records of the Limerick City Gaol (LDS film 2356854) are an interesting read, but Timothy apparently was not taken there. I continue to look, but have learned little else. I think, but am far from sure, that this bad boy was my gggggreat uncle. Mary Walsh must have survived since she was the one who brought charges as stated in the Outrage Report. On Feb 5, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Margaret Doyle wrote: Hi, I wonder if you could take us through how you found out the story behind your relative. It's great to be able to have this info for your decendents. Maggie the Dub On 5 Feb 2011, at 09:57, "Tina Mattocks" <[email protected]> wrote: What a really interesting story !! It is wonderful that you could find out so much Cheers Tina -------------------------------------------------- From: "sheilathoman" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 7:59 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Clohessy, Cloughesy The Timothy Clohessy in question is almost certainly my relative, so I have tried to find out as much as possible about this incident. He was charged with assault after he hit his tenant Mary Walsh with a shovel during an argument over the ownership of some manure. A large reward was offered for his arrest and he was taken into custody the next day. Mary Walsh was taken to the dispensary in Bruree. The incident took place in Tankardstown (near Kilmallock) in June of 1838. I have yet to find out whether Timothy was found guilty as charged or what kind of sentence he may have received. A look through the records of the Limerick Gaol would suggest that assault was not nearly so severely punished as petty thievery. so Timothy probably got off lightly. According to the Cancelled Land Books Clohessys and Walshes continued to live on adjacent plots of land until about 1865 when my Clohessy family immigrated and settled in Chicago. Anyone one else researching Clohessys or Toomeys from the area around Kilmallock, Fedamore and Bruree? I'd really like to share info with you. Sheila Thoman Wellesley, MA On Feb 1, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Carol Schrom wrote: Oh God! That bad? Did he murder someone? On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Marie Goforth-Allen < [email protected]> wrote: I found a Timothy Clohessy. Sorry, but you probably don't want the info I found on him. 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I don't think this has anything to do with your ancestors, Basil. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Basil Kealey Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 3:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Clohessy, Cloughesy Thanks for this,however I fail to see what it has to do with my ancestors,Kealy-Keiley's from Ballylahiff--1826--.Maybe there is some relevance-Let me know-Basil ----- Original Message ----- From: "sheilathoman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Clohessy, Cloughesy >I learned of the event from Mainchin Seoighe's book From Bruree to >Corcomohide pp. 329-30. Seoighe referenced National Archives No. 17979c. >which works out to be an Outrage Report submitted by the local constable to >his superior. This consisted of the constables account of what happened >and notes on actions taken, for instance the posting of a reward and a >notice that a description of the culprit was to be placed in the "Hue and >Cry", a kind of police gazette. > > Next steps were to try to find accounts in newspapers including the Hue > and Cry. I learned that he had been arrested from an article in the > Limerick Chronicle but had no luck with the Hue and Cry (LDS film 951968). > The records of the Limerick City Gaol (LDS film 2356854) are an > interesting read, but Timothy apparently was not taken there. I continue > to look, but have learned little else. I think, but am far from sure, > that this bad boy was my gggggreat uncle. Mary Walsh must have survived > since she was the one who brought charges as stated in the Outrage Report. > > > On Feb 5, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Margaret Doyle wrote: > >> Hi, I wonder if you could take us through how you found out the story >> behind your relative. It's great to be able to have this info for your >> decendents. >> Maggie the Dub >> >> On 5 Feb 2011, at 09:57, "Tina Mattocks" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> What a really interesting story !! It is wonderful that you could find >> out >> so much >> >> Cheers >> >> Tina >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "sheilathoman" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 7:59 PM >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Clohessy, Cloughesy >> >> The Timothy Clohessy in question is almost certainly my relative, so I >> have tried to find out as much as possible about this incident. He was >> charged with assault after he hit his tenant Mary Walsh with a shovel >> during an argument over the ownership of some manure. A large reward was >> offered for his arrest and he was taken into custody the next day. Mary >> Walsh was taken to the dispensary in Bruree. The incident took place in >> Tankardstown (near Kilmallock) in June of 1838. I have yet to find out >> whether Timothy was found guilty as charged or what kind of sentence he >> may have received. A look through the records of the Limerick Gaol would >> suggest that assault was not nearly so severely punished as petty >> thievery. so Timothy probably got off lightly. According to the >> Cancelled Land Books Clohessys and Walshes continued to live on adjacent >> plots of land until about 1865 when my Clohessy family immigrated and >> settled in Chicago. >> >> Anyone one else researching Clohessys or Toomeys from the area around >> Kilmallock, Fedamore and Bruree? I'd really like to share info with you. >> >> Sheila Thoman >> Wellesley, MA >> >> On Feb 1, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Carol Schrom wrote: >> >> Oh God! That bad? Did he murder someone? >> >> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Marie Goforth-Allen < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> I found a Timothy Clohessy. Sorry, but you probably don't want the info >> I >> found on him. >> Marie >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carol Schrom" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:42 AM >> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Clohessy, Cloughesy >> >> >> If you have time, would you please see if there is any mention of >> Clohessy, >> Cloughesy, Clohesy? 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Looking for information on five Carroll siblings from Ballyneety and Stonepark, about 10 miles southeast of Limerick Town. Parents were Thomas Carroll and Mary Carroll. Patrick Carroll (1826-1894). Emigrated to Chicago as a very young man. Married Elizabeth Cagney. Children born in Chicago: Thomas, May, Edward, Owen/Eugene, Anne, Kate, Elizabeth. David Carroll, born in 1832. Edmond/Edward Carroll (1835-1906). Parents were Thomas Carroll and Mary Carroll. Married in Herbertstown in 1861 to Catherine Higgins (1833-1908) from Rathkeale. Emigrated to Chicago in 1880 with children Thomas, John, Patrick, David, James, Mary, Anna. Lived on the Near West Side of Chicago next door to Patrick Carroll above. See: http://www.peterspioneers.com/ECHC.htm James Carroll, born in 1837. Mary Carroll, born in 1840. Jo Mitchell's Lysaght website refers to two Carrolls in Stonepark: John Carroll married to Honor Lysaght and William Lysaght married to Mary Carroll. I am wondering if there is some connection between these Carrolls and the five above. Peter Biggins

For sometime now I have been searching for my gggggrandfather Darby(Jeremiah)Kealy's Family who the Irish birth records indicate was baptized in Nenagh,County Tipperary in 1794 with his father Daniel Kealy from Ballyhenry,County Tipperary and his mother Honora Scanell from Cork.I recently found the enclosed information from County Limerick,Oola Civil Parish 1826 -Coonagh Barony of several Kealy's-Keeley's-Keiley's residing in Ballyahiff,Kylenagoneeny,Oola Hills area in County Limerick .Can you help me with any information you can find on these family members.It is now thought that Darby Keally immigrated to Canada in 1829.-Thank you and kind regards.-Basil Kealey http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/LIM/OolaTithes.htm

Last week, I transcribed the tithe applotments for this civil parish which is located not far from the County Tipperary border. One of the names I found was Bryan O'Connor living in Baggotstown, the same name as my gr gr gr grandfather. The tithes were dated 1833. His son, Timothy, my gr gr grandfather, was born ca 1810 so this could be my ancestor, however, Timothy's death cert has him and his parents born in County Tipperary. Also, Timothy was married in Tipperary RC parish but that is also where his wife was born and raised and usually one did get married in the wife's church. To add to this, I have also found a Timothy Connors in 1851 cited for leaving an unharnessed cart while in Tipperary Town. The clerk (Petty Sessions Court) wrote his address as 'Garryspillane, Galbally Parish. While close to Galbally Civil Parish, Garryspillane was actually located in Ballyscaddan Civil Parish which is also not far from County Tipperary or Knockainy Civil Parish. Until I can see the RC records for the area, I don't know whether this is my Bryan O'Connor or not but I have been doing these tithes for years now and have never found a Bryan O'Connor/Connors before so this one really gets me wondering if this is mine. Looking at the Discovery Map for the area, it looks like Baggotstown is about 6 or so miles from Emly in County Tipperary. Timothy emigrated to Troy NY where his brother William lived. On Williams' gravestone, it says he was born in Emly RC Parish, County Tipperary. In 2008, while I was in Dublin, I looked at the Emly RC Parish fairly quickly due to time constraints. For the time period of my search for William and/or Timothy's births, there were gaps in the records, so not finding their baptisms was not conclusive. So this brings me to my questions. Is it possible, that they moved around and didn't stay put in the area where they were born and raised? Did they follow the work? Any opinions? I don't know if it is wishful thinking on my part but I have a strong feeling that this might just be the guy I have been looking for and was wondering what others, familiar with the area thought. Thanks in advance for your opinions. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Thanks for this,however I fail to see what it has to do with my ancestors,Kealy-Keiley's from Ballylahiff--1826--.Maybe there is some relevance-Let me know-Basil ----- Original Message ----- From: "sheilathoman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Clohessy, Cloughesy >I learned of the event from Mainchin Seoighe's book From Bruree to >Corcomohide pp. 329-30. Seoighe referenced National Archives No. 17979c. >which works out to be an Outrage Report submitted by the local constable to >his superior. This consisted of the constables account of what happened >and notes on actions taken, for instance the posting of a reward and a >notice that a description of the culprit was to be placed in the "Hue and >Cry", a kind of police gazette. > > Next steps were to try to find accounts in newspapers including the Hue > and Cry. I learned that he had been arrested from an article in the > Limerick Chronicle but had no luck with the Hue and Cry (LDS film 951968). > The records of the Limerick City Gaol (LDS film 2356854) are an > interesting read, but Timothy apparently was not taken there. I continue > to look, but have learned little else. I think, but am far from sure, > that this bad boy was my gggggreat uncle. Mary Walsh must have survived > since she was the one who brought charges as stated in the Outrage Report. > > > On Feb 5, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Margaret Doyle wrote: > >> Hi, I wonder if you could take us through how you found out the story >> behind your relative. It's great to be able to have this info for your >> decendents. >> Maggie the Dub >> >> On 5 Feb 2011, at 09:57, "Tina Mattocks" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> What a really interesting story !! It is wonderful that you could find >> out >> so much >> >> Cheers >> >> Tina >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "sheilathoman" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 7:59 PM >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Clohessy, Cloughesy >> >> The Timothy Clohessy in question is almost certainly my relative, so I >> have tried to find out as much as possible about this incident. He was >> charged with assault after he hit his tenant Mary Walsh with a shovel >> during an argument over the ownership of some manure. A large reward was >> offered for his arrest and he was taken into custody the next day. Mary >> Walsh was taken to the dispensary in Bruree. The incident took place in >> Tankardstown (near Kilmallock) in June of 1838. I have yet to find out >> whether Timothy was found guilty as charged or what kind of sentence he >> may have received. A look through the records of the Limerick Gaol would >> suggest that assault was not nearly so severely punished as petty >> thievery. so Timothy probably got off lightly. According to the >> Cancelled Land Books Clohessys and Walshes continued to live on adjacent >> plots of land until about 1865 when my Clohessy family immigrated and >> settled in Chicago. >> >> Anyone one else researching Clohessys or Toomeys from the area around >> Kilmallock, Fedamore and Bruree? I'd really like to share info with you. >> >> Sheila Thoman >> Wellesley, MA >> >> On Feb 1, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Carol Schrom wrote: >> >> Oh God! That bad? Did he murder someone? >> >> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Marie Goforth-Allen < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> I found a Timothy Clohessy. Sorry, but you probably don't want the info >> I >> found on him. >> Marie >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carol Schrom" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:42 AM >> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Clohessy, Cloughesy >> >> >> If you have time, would you please see if there is any mention of >> Clohessy, >> Cloughesy, Clohesy? 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I learned of the event from Mainchin Seoighe's book From Bruree to Corcomohide pp. 329-30. Seoighe referenced National Archives No. 17979c. which works out to be an Outrage Report submitted by the local constable to his superior. This consisted of the constables account of what happened and notes on actions taken, for instance the posting of a reward and a notice that a description of the culprit was to be placed in the "Hue and Cry", a kind of police gazette. Next steps were to try to find accounts in newspapers including the Hue and Cry. I learned that he had been arrested from an article in the Limerick Chronicle but had no luck with the Hue and Cry (LDS film 951968). The records of the Limerick City Gaol (LDS film 2356854) are an interesting read, but Timothy apparently was not taken there. I continue to look, but have learned little else. I think, but am far from sure, that this bad boy was my gggggreat uncle. Mary Walsh must have survived since she was the one who brought charges as stated in the Outrage Report. On Feb 5, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Margaret Doyle wrote: > Hi, I wonder if you could take us through how you found out the story behind your relative. It's great to be able to have this info for your decendents. > Maggie the Dub > > On 5 Feb 2011, at 09:57, "Tina Mattocks" <[email protected]> wrote: > > What a really interesting story !! It is wonderful that you could find out > so much > > Cheers > > Tina > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "sheilathoman" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 7:59 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Clohessy, Cloughesy > > The Timothy Clohessy in question is almost certainly my relative, so I > have tried to find out as much as possible about this incident. He was > charged with assault after he hit his tenant Mary Walsh with a shovel > during an argument over the ownership of some manure. A large reward was > offered for his arrest and he was taken into custody the next day. Mary > Walsh was taken to the dispensary in Bruree. The incident took place in > Tankardstown (near Kilmallock) in June of 1838. I have yet to find out > whether Timothy was found guilty as charged or what kind of sentence he > may have received. A look through the records of the Limerick Gaol would > suggest that assault was not nearly so severely punished as petty > thievery. so Timothy probably got off lightly. According to the > Cancelled Land Books Clohessys and Walshes continued to live on adjacent > plots of land until about 1865 when my Clohessy family immigrated and > settled in Chicago. > > Anyone one else researching Clohessys or Toomeys from the area around > Kilmallock, Fedamore and Bruree? I'd really like to share info with you. > > Sheila Thoman > Wellesley, MA > > On Feb 1, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Carol Schrom wrote: > > Oh God! That bad? Did he murder someone? > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Marie Goforth-Allen < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I found a Timothy Clohessy. Sorry, but you probably don't want the info > I > found on him. > Marie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol Schrom" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:42 AM > Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Clohessy, Cloughesy > > > If you have time, would you please see if there is any mention of > Clohessy, > Cloughesy, Clohesy? Thank you so much for your kindness. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3416 - Release Date: 02/01/11 > 07:34:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marie, Would you look up William Creagh? William Creagh b abt 1823 in Drewscourt, Ballyagran, Limerick. Ballyagran is about 8 mi south of Bruree. William was married to Johanna Collins b 1830, prior to emigrating to the US in 1850. They were accompanied by Johanna's mother Catherine Burk Collins b 1795. Catherine is the only daughter of John Burk and Catherine also has a brother named James Burk b 1803(?). James emigrated to the US before 1870. Thank you, Marilyn > From: Marie Goforth-Allen<mailto:[email protected]> >>> To: county limerick<mailto:[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 8:26 PM >>> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] look-ups >>> >>> >>> I just got my book FROM BRUREE TO CORCOMOHIDE, returned to me. After >>> loaning it out, the book got lost in the shuffle for 2 years. It is >>> back >>> now and I would be happy to do some simple searches for anyone who wants >>> it. >>> >>> Marie

Hi, I wonder if you could take us through how you found out the story behind your relative. It's great to be able to have this info for your decendents. Maggie the Dub On 5 Feb 2011, at 09:57, "Tina Mattocks" <[email protected]> wrote: What a really interesting story !! It is wonderful that you could find out so much Cheers Tina -------------------------------------------------- From: "sheilathoman" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 7:59 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Clohessy, Cloughesy The Timothy Clohessy in question is almost certainly my relative, so I have tried to find out as much as possible about this incident. He was charged with assault after he hit his tenant Mary Walsh with a shovel during an argument over the ownership of some manure. A large reward was offered for his arrest and he was taken into custody the next day. Mary Walsh was taken to the dispensary in Bruree. The incident took place in Tankardstown (near Kilmallock) in June of 1838. I have yet to find out whether Timothy was found guilty as charged or what kind of sentence he may have received. A look through the records of the Limerick Gaol would suggest that assault was not nearly so severely punished as petty thievery. so Timothy probably got off lightly. According to the Cancelled Land Books Clohessys and Walshes continued to live on adjacent plots of land until about 1865 when my Clohessy family immigrated and settled in Chicago. Anyone one else researching Clohessys or Toomeys from the area around Kilmallock, Fedamore and Bruree? I'd really like to share info with you. Sheila Thoman Wellesley, MA On Feb 1, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Carol Schrom wrote: Oh God! That bad? Did he murder someone? On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Marie Goforth-Allen < [email protected]> wrote: I found a Timothy Clohessy. Sorry, but you probably don't want the info I found on him. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Schrom" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:42 AM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Clohessy, Cloughesy If you have time, would you please see if there is any mention of Clohessy, Cloughesy, Clohesy? Thank you so much for your kindness. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3416 - Release Date: 02/01/11 07:34:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What a really interesting story !! It is wonderful that you could find out so much Cheers Tina -------------------------------------------------- From: "sheilathoman" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 7:59 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Clohessy, Cloughesy > The Timothy Clohessy in question is almost certainly my relative, so I > have tried to find out as much as possible about this incident. He was > charged with assault after he hit his tenant Mary Walsh with a shovel > during an argument over the ownership of some manure. A large reward was > offered for his arrest and he was taken into custody the next day. Mary > Walsh was taken to the dispensary in Bruree. The incident took place in > Tankardstown (near Kilmallock) in June of 1838. I have yet to find out > whether Timothy was found guilty as charged or what kind of sentence he > may have received. A look through the records of the Limerick Gaol would > suggest that assault was not nearly so severely punished as petty > thievery. so Timothy probably got off lightly. According to the > Cancelled Land Books Clohessys and Walshes continued to live on adjacent > plots of land until about 1865 when my Clohessy family immigrated and > settled in Chicago. > > Anyone one else researching Clohessys or Toomeys from the area around > Kilmallock, Fedamore and Bruree? I'd really like to share info with you. > > Sheila Thoman > Wellesley, MA > > On Feb 1, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Carol Schrom wrote: > >> Oh God! That bad? Did he murder someone? >> >> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Marie Goforth-Allen < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I found a Timothy Clohessy. Sorry, but you probably don't want the info >>> I >>> found on him. >>> Marie >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Carol Schrom" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:42 AM >>> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Clohessy, Cloughesy >>> >>> >>>> If you have time, would you please see if there is any mention of >>>> Clohessy, >>>> Cloughesy, Clohesy? Thank you so much for your kindness. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3416 - Release Date: 02/01/11 >>> 07:34:00 >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Odd isn't it ????????????? Col ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Eden" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] From Admin - list function normal >I think you are just a bit over the top, this isn't a busy list! There has > been humour OK, but what has this to do with genealogy. When there is > something with a direct link you stop it - Why? > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christina Finn > Hunt > Sent: 04 February 2011 14:02 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] From Admin - list function normal > > Just so you know the list is functioning as usual. Replies will go to the > list. > Thanks! > Christina > =============================== > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 5847 (20110204) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > >

I think you are just a bit over the top, this isn't a busy list! There has been humour OK, but what has this to do with genealogy. When there is something with a direct link you stop it - Why? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christina Finn Hunt Sent: 04 February 2011 14:02 To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] From Admin - list function normal Just so you know the list is functioning as usual. Replies will go to the list. Thanks! Christina =============================== ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Such an adventure this genealogy hobby! : ) Jan, nyc Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: sheilathoman <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 14:59:18 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Clohessy, Cloughesy The Timothy Clohessy in question is almost certainly my relative, so I have tried to find out as much as possible about this incident. He was charged with assault after he hit his tenant Mary Walsh with a shovel during an argument over the ownership of some manure. A large reward was offered for his arrest and he was taken into custody the next day. Mary Walsh was taken to the dispensary in Bruree. The incident took place in Tankardstown (near Kilmallock) in June of 1838. I have yet to find out whether Timothy was found guilty as charged or what kind of sentence he may have received. A look through the records of the Limerick Gaol would suggest that assault was not nearly so severely punished as petty thievery. so Timothy probably got off lightly. According to the Cancelled Land Books Clohessys and Walshes continued to live on adjacent plots of land until about 1865 when my Clohessy family immigrated and settled in Chicago. Anyone one else researching Clohessys or Toomeys from the area around Kilmallock, Fedamore and Bruree? I'd really like to share info with you. Sheila Thoman Wellesley, MA On Feb 1, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Carol Schrom wrote: > Oh God! That bad? Did he murder someone? > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Marie Goforth-Allen < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I found a Timothy Clohessy. Sorry, but you probably don't want the info I >> found on him. >> Marie >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carol Schrom" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:42 AM >> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Clohessy, Cloughesy >> >> >>> If you have time, would you please see if there is any mention of >>> Clohessy, >>> Cloughesy, Clohesy? Thank you so much for your kindness. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3416 - Release Date: 02/01/11 >> 07:34:00 >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well since you asked...I let the lookups go on for days. I normally do ask that lookups be conducted privately, but considering the general quiet on most lists I let it go on. It got to be too much email. I was contacted privately. I respect that. List memebers should contact a list owner off list. If anyone has further comments, contact me OFF list. Christina On 2/4/2011 6:50 PM, Maureen Eden wrote: > I think you are just a bit over the top, this isn't a busy list! There has > been humour OK, but what has this to do with genealogy. When there is > something with a direct link you stop it - Why? > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christina Finn Hunt > Sent: 04 February 2011 14:02 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] From Admin - list function normal > > Just so you know the list is functioning as usual. Replies will go to the > list. > Thanks! > Christina

The Timothy Clohessy in question is almost certainly my relative, so I have tried to find out as much as possible about this incident. He was charged with assault after he hit his tenant Mary Walsh with a shovel during an argument over the ownership of some manure. A large reward was offered for his arrest and he was taken into custody the next day. Mary Walsh was taken to the dispensary in Bruree. The incident took place in Tankardstown (near Kilmallock) in June of 1838. I have yet to find out whether Timothy was found guilty as charged or what kind of sentence he may have received. A look through the records of the Limerick Gaol would suggest that assault was not nearly so severely punished as petty thievery. so Timothy probably got off lightly. According to the Cancelled Land Books Clohessys and Walshes continued to live on adjacent plots of land until about 1865 when my Clohessy family immigrated and settled in Chicago. Anyone one else researching Clohessys or Toomeys from the area around Kilmallock, Fedamore and Bruree? I'd really like to share info with you. Sheila Thoman Wellesley, MA On Feb 1, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Carol Schrom wrote: > Oh God! That bad? Did he murder someone? > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Marie Goforth-Allen < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I found a Timothy Clohessy. Sorry, but you probably don't want the info I >> found on him. >> Marie >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carol Schrom" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:42 AM >> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Clohessy, Cloughesy >> >> >>> If you have time, would you please see if there is any mention of >>> Clohessy, >>> Cloughesy, Clohesy? Thank you so much for your kindness. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3416 - Release Date: 02/01/11 >> 07:34:00 >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just so you know the list is functioning as usual. Replies will go to the list. Thanks! Christina ===============================

Hi Marie I would appreciate a look-up for CLANCY, McMAHON in Loghill area and O'GRADY in Shanagolden area. Thanking you in anticipation Barbara Lughermo, Melbourne Australia

As of now No emails concerning the recent lookup will be going through to the list. You will have to resend them privately. I normally have not allowed on list look-ups for the very reason that they clog the list. I let this one go on too long because the lists are so quiet. >From now on, if you wish to offer a look-up please give your email and have people contact you Off List. This is in no way intended to be critical of Marie. She was very sweet to offer. On a small list this may work, but on fairly large lists, it can become a problem. Thanks, Christina

G'day Marie The mention of Madigan near Kilfergus/Glin caught my attention. Is there any mention of Sheahan in your book? My gr gr grandfather was Daniel Sheahan. He married Mary Madigan. Regards Kevin Sheahan In boiling hot Melbourne, Australia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marie Goforth-Allen Sent: Wednesday, 2 February 2011 2:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Around Glin. I did find a Thomas Madigan. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Around Glin. > > > > Hello. > Would you have a John Madigan married to a Bridget? they > would of been married around 1815-1820. > > Thank you. > Bob. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3416 - Release Date: 02/01/11 07:34:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message