Phil,   Having some ancestry in that area, I can tell you that Croom RC parish included parts of Ballingarry, Anhid, Dysert and Croom civil parishes. Marriages are supposed to go back to 1770, with some gaps. You might try Griffiths Valuation (now freely searchable on askaboutireland.ie, ancestry.com, Irish Times and other sites). If you can identify your family in Griffiths (about 1851), then you could try to search the Tithes Applotment (1826) for the same location. You might not find a firm parentage but at least the exact location they came from - which is about all that many of us can hope for!   Paul Keroack    --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Phil Albro <[email protected]> wrote: From: Phil Albro <[email protected]> Subject: [IRL-LIMERICK] Looking for Dwyer/Martin in Croom To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 10:28 AM Hi.  This is my first post to the list.  My gggrandparents Matthew Dwyer and Mary Martin were married at St. Mary RC Church in Croom village in 1840.  Both were claimed to be 18 at the time.  They came to America in 1852 aboard the ship Underwriter, having lost two children, brought two others with them, and a fifth is unaccounted for.  The children were baptized at St. Mary also.  I find no evidence they lived in Croom village, but they claimed to have been from Croom Parish. Unfortunately, baptismal records at St. Mary only go back to 1828, not early enough to tell me their parents.  I have made three trips to Ireland from North Carolina, USA, to see what I could learn, which isn't much.  Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Phil Albro (Dwyer on my mother's side) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Tithe Applotments 2 October 1830 have SHERWOOD and STEEP families on the townland of Ballyriggen. Regards /Nick/ Home http://members.iinet.net.au/~nickred/ <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Enickred/> Sites managed http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~registryofdeeds/index.html <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Eregistryofdeeds/index.html> http://www.igrsoc.org/index.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~nickred/majuratennis/ <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Enickred/majuratennis/>

Goodday Steve Yes I'm very interested in both sides! It's a good posibility that there are brother & sister to my G.G.grandparents Samual Sherwood-1793-1875 & Catherine Steep -1799- 1896--they settled in Milton,Ont. --unfortunatly I can't prove who their siblings or parents were. Larry Healey Campbellford,Ont. Email direct at [email protected]

Goodday Nick I don't know about these Tithe Applotments--my G.G,Grandparents would have still been there at that time--Samual Sherwood & Catherine Steep Larry Healey Campbellford,Ont. ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Reddan To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Steep and Sherwood Families ofKilfinnane/Ballyriggen The Tithe Applotments 2 October 1830 have SHERWOOD and STEEP families on the townland of Ballyriggen. Regards /Nick/ Home http://members.iinet.net.au/~nickred/ <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Enickred/> Sites managed http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~registryofdeeds/index.html <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Eregistryofdeeds/index.html> http://www.igrsoc.org/index.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~nickred/majuratennis/ <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Enickred/majuratennis/> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Michael Steep and Sarah Sherwood married in Kilfinane on 26 Apr 1836 and their first six children were born there before the family emigrated to Canada. Anyone else interested in this family? I am trying to identify Michael and Sarah's parents. Steve McKay Myrtle Beach SC USA

DEVEREUX is fairly well known in Wexford.  There was a family who were heroes in '98 Rebellion.  Think they fled Ireland after the defeat.  Try the Wexford list and also GOOGLE the DEVEREUX name.  You will a great deal of data, just not sure it would be your family. Mary Ellen

  I know of this person.   Pls contact me at [email protected]       ________________________________ From: zirklecircle <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Sun, March 27, 2011 10:17:52 PM Subject: Does anyone in Limerick or Wexford know anything about one John Devereux of Ballyrankin House? He was born  in Limerick in 1798, was a Major in the Wexford Militia in 1801. He married a daughter of Hyacinth Daly, of Kilmore Castle, who was Mayor of Galway. Dying in 1841, he was succeeded by his elder son the Rev. Nicholas Devereux, D.D. Ballyrankin House, who was the Rector and Prebondary of the Parish of Kilrush. He died in 1867 and was succeeded by the eldest of his five sons. John Daly Devereux who was a barrister and who served as Captain in the Wexford Militia. On his death Ballyrankin passed to his brother, the Rev. Nicholas J. Devereux, London who was chaplain to the Duke of Portland.   I am trying to determine if he had a sister named Elizabeth Devereaux DeLacy, who may have married in Co. Wexford in 1821 and came to  Montreal in about 1840.

Does anyone in Limerick or Wexford know anything about one John Devereux of Ballyrankin House? He was born  in Limerick in 1798, was a Major in the Wexford Militia in 1801. He married a daughter of Hyacinth Daly, of Kilmore Castle, who was Mayor of Galway. Dying in 1841, he was succeeded by his elder son the Rev. Nicholas Devereux, D.D. Ballyrankin House, who was the Rector and Prebondary of the Parish of Kilrush. He died in 1867 and was succeeded by the eldest of his five sons. John Daly Devereux who was a barrister and who served as Captain in the Wexford Militia. On his death Ballyrankin passed to his brother, the Rev. Nicholas J. Devereux, London who was chaplain to the Duke of Portland.   I am trying to determine if he had a sister named Elizabeth Devereaux DeLacy, who may have married in Co. Wexford in 1821 and came to  Montreal in about 1840.

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Paul, thanks for your info on the QUAID name, I will check it out in Griffiths on the website you mention. Appreciate your help - Jean.

I saw it, Dan. It still appears to have been a house name and not a real village. As to your mystery, I just don't know what to think at the moment about it. One part could make sense if the woman asked him to use her surname to inherit. The rest is pretty muddy. Janet On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 1:50 AM, zirklecircle <[email protected]> wrote: > Janet:  Did you see this?  Dan > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > From: zirklecircle <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 9:48:18 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Cappagh Civil Parish / Co Tipperary South? or Co > Limeri > > > Pete:  thank you very much for the information---I will continue to look for > clues in Tipperary (and not Limerick).  Did you see my message to Janet as to > why I am looking (and the mystery I am trying to solve?)  If not and you are > interested I will shoot it to you.  Dan > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 7:11:46 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Cappagh Civil Parish / Co Tipperary South? or Co > Limeri > > Dan, > > I finally found Hunt's Grove on maps.  My half-inch map No. 18, from 1968, > shows the settlement by name, as does the Townland Index map - of some > unknown date.  The current Discovery map 59 (Hunt's Grove is in N. Tipp, BTW) > shows a group of about 7 buildings, a little over a mile SSW of the small town > of Templederry, at about 945 676.  But there is no name shown for the > location.  Hunts Grove is located in the townland of Gortnagowna, in Templederry > > civil parish. > > > Pete > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts > </HTML> > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Pat! I have been trying to find the Young family that was in Glenosheen Co., Limerick. All I have is a Bap. from St.Marys in Limerick 1749 William Young and a letter from Billy Steepe of Glenosheen telling me that all the Young boys used Peter as a middle name. Do you have anyone over there that can do look up's in the Palatine History centre? I also have lots of pictures from there that I took. My E ( [email protected]) or ([email protected] <[email protected]>) Roland Young Fresno, Ca. On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Pat Connors <[email protected]> wrote: > I have just added the following civil parish tithes to the County Limerick > section of my website: > Killeely > Killeenagarriff > > Remember to read my transcription notes to see what I found when looking at > the film plus any problems I had with the transcription. > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Pete....you can always be counted on for great map information!! Barbara Langan Bond Dracut MA USA [email protected] In a message dated 3/25/2011 7:12:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Dan, I finally found Hunt's Grove on maps. My half-inch map No. 18, from 1968, shows the settlement by name, as does the Townland Index map - of some unknown date. The current Discovery map 59 (Hunt's Grove is in N. Tipp, BTW) shows a group of about 7 buildings, a little over a mile SSW of the small town of Templederry, at about 945 676. But there is no name shown for the location. Hunts Grove is located in the townland of Gortnagowna, in Templederry civil parish. Pete - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dan, I finally found Hunt's Grove on maps. My half-inch map No. 18, from 1968, shows the settlement by name, as does the Townland Index map - of some unknown date. The current Discovery map 59 (Hunt's Grove is in N. Tipp, BTW) shows a group of about 7 buildings, a little over a mile SSW of the small town of Templederry, at about 945 676. But there is no name shown for the location. Hunts Grove is located in the townland of Gortnagowna, in Templederry civil parish. Pete - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML>

Janet:  Did you see this?  Dan ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: zirklecircle <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 9:48:18 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Cappagh Civil Parish / Co Tipperary South? or Co Limeri Pete:  thank you very much for the information---I will continue to look for clues in Tipperary (and not Limerick).  Did you see my message to Janet as to why I am looking (and the mystery I am trying to solve?)  If not and you are interested I will shoot it to you.  Dan ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 7:11:46 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Cappagh Civil Parish / Co Tipperary South? or Co Limeri Dan, I finally found Hunt's Grove on maps.  My half-inch map No. 18, from 1968, shows the settlement by name, as does the Townland Index map - of some unknown date.  The current Discovery map 59 (Hunt's Grove is in N. Tipp, BTW) shows a group of about 7 buildings, a little over a mile SSW of the small town of Templederry, at about 945 676.  But there is no name shown for the location.  Hunts Grove is located in the townland of Gortnagowna, in Templederry civil parish. Pete - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML>

Francis, <<RE: Shipping lists are usually looked for in relation to people going to America. However my grand mother came from America about 1860. Would any one know where I might get a shipping list for her>>  Family search has just added to their site NY Passenger Lists 1820-1891. Browse the lists, but is broken down into time periods. Worth a try. https://familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1849782 Source Information "New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1891," "New York Passenger Arrival Lists, Ellis Island, 1892-1924", database, FamilySearch; from United States Immigration and Naturalization Service, Washington, D.C. NARA M237. FHL microfilm. Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah. Betty Noonan

Shipping lists are usually looked for in relation to people going to America. However my grand mother came from America about 1860. Would any one know where I might get a shipping list for her Francis Egan

Thanks to both of you!!  Toma:  I am actually not looking for the surname "Hunt."  Rather seeking the surname "Wold" as the Hunts (having no heirs) left their estate to my ggggrandmother's sister named "Ann Wold"  (who was their housekeeper) and she used proceeds of it to support my ggggrandmother (Katherine Wold Tierney) and her son, my ggg grandfather (ChristopherTierney Wold) until about 1820 when he was "cut off" and immigrated to Upper Canada (now Ontario) with my infant gggrandmother and presumably his wife (Ann Dorsey (or D'Arcy) in about 1840.  He was arrested there for using name "Wold" until it was determined he was a "legitimate heir." After that he used the name "Tierney."  There is something interesting there that happened in Ireland and I am trying to track it.  Maybe the Church of Ireland cut off his trust fund?  His mother remained in Ireland and is buried in "Upper Church," perhaps back in  Cappawhite. Janet:  I understand the confusing geography!  The reason I am pursuing this is because google maps shows a place called "Hunt's Grove" to the north of Cappawhite and looking at it now, Hunt's Grove seems to be on an unnamed road between Ballyhane and Greenane..  All are just south of main road to Cloghonan, which is to west of R498 (at Currabaha).  This piqued my interest and thus my question below.  Thanks for your insight and help!!  Dan ________________________________ From: Tina Mattocks <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 1:34:15 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Cappagh Civil Parish / Co Tipperary South? or Co Limerick ? I have Hunts in Kerry and also in Limerick Toma -------------------------------------------------- From: "Janet Crawford" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:52 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Cappagh Civil Parish / Co Tipperary South? or Co Limerick ? > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:22 PM, zirklecircle <[email protected]> > wrote: >> Janet: I am reading this exchange with interest. My great great >> grandfather was >> born in Cappawhite at about 1800. He grew up in a village then called >> Hunt's >> Grove. Was the old village of Hunt's Grove also in Limerick rather than >> Tipperary (as I'd thought)? If you know. Thanks Dan >> >> >> > > Dan, The English named their new estates in Ireland, and, in this > case, the Hunt family would have named their area Hunt's Grove. Two > things can happen after that. First, if there was a village there, the > whole village may have begun to be called Hunt's Grove, and that may > at some point reverted back to its old village name after the War of > Independence. Second, a village may have grown around the estate and > called by the estate name. In the latter case, the name would probably > stick. Hunt's Grove was either solely an estate name or a village that > has now reverted back to its previous name because it no longer exists > as a village name per the Townland Index. > Because it no longer exists I can't tell if it was in Tipp or Limerick > or bounced back and forth like some others. If it sat on the border > area, it probably bounced. > Digging out these name changes is one of the things that is quite > exciting for me and proving helpful for others. > Cappawhite is a very messy parish as to borders and which townland was > in it at what time. > > Janet > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings; My Great grandmother –Margaret Roche was born about 1875 in Limerick and emigrated to NYC in 1896. The brothers and sisters we know about are Delia Roche, Celia/Cecilia Roche, Thomas Roche born about 1883, and Michael Roche. We do not know the parents’ names, but do know that their father worked as a Valet in the Limerick area for a British Colonel. Thomas and Celia emigrated to the NYC area in 1901. Margaret Roche met and married James Carroll in NYC and they had 5 girls. James Carroll was born June 2, 1872 in Limerick. He worked in NYC as a Hanson Cab Driver in Central Park. In December 1917 he died from the Great Flu epidemic there. Margaret passed away on August 31, 1958 and is buried in Calvary Cemetery on Long Island, NY. I have found so many people in those days had the same or very similar names. I would like to be able to find out all that I can about Margaret’s family and James’s family-if I can. CarolF2

I have Hunts in Kerry and also in Limerick Toma -------------------------------------------------- From: "Janet Crawford" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:52 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-LIMERICK] Cappagh Civil Parish / Co Tipperary South? or Co Limerick ? > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:22 PM, zirklecircle <[email protected]> > wrote: >> Janet: I am reading this exchange with interest. My great great >> grandfather was >> born in Cappawhite at about 1800. He grew up in a village then called >> Hunt's >> Grove. Was the old village of Hunt's Grove also in Limerick rather than >> Tipperary (as I'd thought)? If you know. Thanks Dan >> >> >> > > Dan, The English named their new estates in Ireland, and, in this > case, the Hunt family would have named their area Hunt's Grove. Two > things can happen after that. First, if there was a village there, the > whole village may have begun to be called Hunt's Grove, and that may > at some point reverted back to its old village name after the War of > Independence. Second, a village may have grown around the estate and > called by the estate name. In the latter case, the name would probably > stick. Hunt's Grove was either solely an estate name or a village that > has now reverted back to its previous name because it no longer exists > as a village name per the Townland Index. > Because it no longer exists I can't tell if it was in Tipp or Limerick > or bounced back and forth like some others. If it sat on the border > area, it probably bounced. > Digging out these name changes is one of the things that is quite > exciting for me and proving helpful for others. > Cappawhite is a very messy parish as to borders and which townland was > in it at what time. > > Janet > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >