This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YWC.2ACI/546.945.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: i agree with the septs <<The English ruling Ireland in times past certainly found it easier to group like-sounding names together, and the other factors you mention (e.g. ignorance, heavily-accented Irish, etc) surely influenced all of it.>> denning is grouped with dineen whichever came first is what you are. but.... denning is scotish english dutch german and denoon in france.i prefer to think of all these name except a very few as keltoi [keltic] i swore denning $ dinning would be the same i have one member thats dinning we dont come close in dna absolutly no relation . i was shocked since dinning interchanges with my line every other person. i know dineen will be the same as are almost all these names if you have thought about it it is facinating jim