This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YWC.2ACI/5361.1 Message Board Post: Hello Lauralee, The 1901 Leitrim census has the following entry for Michael Gillen in Sragarn: Sragarn, Mohill: Michael Gillen, 56, RIC pensioner, widower born Co. Sligo, Mary Anne, 27. There's no listing in the census for any other children. Mohill RC church registers are available on microfilm on order through a LDS Family History Centre and include the following: baptisms, 1836-1905, marriages 1836-1905 and 1910-1916, burials 1836-1883, microfilm #1279224 item 1-3. Verify the film number with LDS before ordering. Regards. Eilís O'Hara Ireland

Hi: I'm looking for any information on Johanna Kavanagh who married a William Nicholson on October 8, 1846 in Drumshanbo, Kiltoghert parish. Also her Kavanagh family. On the marriage registration, her father's name was as John. They were married in the Church of Ireland in Drumshanbo. He was Scottish and was a private in the British Army. I do have the information from marriage registration. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.Thank you. Regards, Carol Collins

Phyllis at ppottle@comcast.net writes: << What is Drumherriff House and where else can I go to find out? >> Phyllis, Sorry to get in on this one so late - I must have missed the earlier correspondence. Drumherriff House is probably in the townland of Drumherriff, about 2-1/2 miles NNW of Leitrim village/town. Drumherriff is right along the Shannon River border with Roscommon.........although, cryptically, the Townland Index maps indicate a small portion of the townland either "in" or just across the Shannon. That would indicate that the border might not be down the middle of the river. Of course, these townland maps are based on the 1st and 2nd edition six-inch maps, so perhaps the inconsistency was sorted-out in 1898 when things like this were corrected. There are about 10 buildings currently in the townland. If Drumherriff House was an estate or manor house, I can see two possible locations in the townland where such a place might exist. Both are at the end of long driveways and are suitable isolated. The Archaeological Inventory of County Leitrim doesn't mention such a place in Drumherriff. I think that's all I've got. .............................................................................. ... Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5366 Message Board Post: A very simple search immediately turned up a Drumherriff Lodge in Drumshanbo>>> http://www.iol.ie/~dec/gunning/ It's amazing what can be found on the web if we only bother to look

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YWC.2ACI/5363.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello Phyllis, It is and was very common for Irish to name their houses both in Ireland as well as often in the places where they emigrated. The names could be anything and wouldn't at all necessarily need to be any connection to any place. So the house location could be anywhere in Ireland or even Nova Scotia. Drumheriff as a place name literally means ridge of the bull. It also means ridge or a long hill. As such it could be used to describe any house in any similar location. People often used to make coverlets for babies of family members or friends and some people still do it today. They turn into "family heirlooms" if saved of course. And it wouldn't be uncommon for the person to "sign" and date it. It was a pastime for many women of the time both in Ireland as well as Nova Scotia. Nova Scotia is well known for its rich history of quilts and quilting. Martha Orr could have been such a friend or relative of the family doing traditional needlework. Sometimes if members of an Irish family couldn't support a new child, the child went to a relative who could afford to raise it. This is a possibility although generally the child kept their family name because people didnt or couldn't afford to pay for the legal process of adoption. The family story that Anna Evelyn was adopted could or couldn't be true. Sometimes people would joke that a child was adopted because the child looked or acted differently than other family members and that could have been overheard and the story carried forth. I assume Anna Evelyn herself didn't make that statement? There's no official house name or related home for unwed mothers in Leitrim called Drumheriff House. But you can do some records research to try to answer some of the questions at least. First, you need to find more detail on James and Jennie and their children from records in Nova Scotia. Was Anna Evelyn even born in Ireland and did the family even come from Ireland? That needs to be clarified. There should be civil and church records in Nova Scotia for James and Jennie as well as their children showing where they were born. You should first look at the Canadian census records that might include a birth location for the family members and then civil and church records to see if you can find James and Jennie's marriage records as well as the children's birth records. There may be church records as well. That would at least give you a geographic location to search. See too if James and Jennie were born in Ireland and the location, i.e. the townland/civil parish and county. That's the location you'd be looking for in Ireland for the children too fromtheir records in Nova Scotia. You should look for ships passenger records for the family. If they emigrated from Ireland there should be passenger records at the port of arrival in Canada. Because their arrival would have apparently been late in the Nineteenth Century the records should be available and may include their place of residence in Ireland. Depending on the geographic location of the marriage and the children's births, as well as the birth location for the parents, you could then further research the records in that location, whether it be in Nova Scotia or Ireland. Then you'd at least have a more specific location to try to connect the family to Martha Orr. See if her name appeared as a sponsor for the marriage or the children's baptisms. Nova Scotia census records may include her living in the local area where the family lived. Regards. Eilís O'Hara Ireland

Nearly every home in Ireland was named, ? House. They were named by the owners if they were in the country or in a row in the small towns. They kept these names and it was their mailing address. Also, many Irish people were so poor, even in my parents time that when they had another child and knew they couldn't feed or clothe them, often a close relative or an in law took the child and raised them. In this way, they lived close to the original family and were still a part of it. I am 65 and was born in Leitrim. Bernie ----- Original Message ----- From: <ppottle@comcast.net> To: <IRL-LEITRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 5:14 PM Subject: [LEITRIM] Re: Martha Orr - Drumheriff House > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5363.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Thank you, Ellis, for responding. > Only the word/place Drumherriff led me to Leitrim. > I believe James Fowley arrived in Nova Scotia from Ireland before the turn of the 20th century. He married (before or after arriving?) Jennie Munroe. Two of their children were James and Anna Evelyn (my husband's great aunt). I've recently heard from his cousin that the family talk once mentioned that Anna had been adopted. The coverlet was among her belongings. > Of course, in the absence of facts, the mind makes things up. Was this a memento from her birth? In Ireland? As daughter perhaps to Jennie Munroe and adoped to take the Fowley name? > Will I ever know? Probably not, but the search is on and I'm grateful if you'd join me in solving the mystery. What is Drumherriff House and where else can I go to find out? > Thanks once again and I hope to hear again from you. > Phyllis > > > ==== IRL-LEITRIM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, to change from L to D or from D to L, to contact the list administrator, to search the list's archives: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-LEITRIM.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5363.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you, Ellis, for responding. Only the word/place Drumherriff led me to Leitrim. I believe James Fowley arrived in Nova Scotia from Ireland before the turn of the 20th century. He married (before or after arriving?) Jennie Munroe. Two of their children were James and Anna Evelyn (my husband's great aunt). I've recently heard from his cousin that the family talk once mentioned that Anna had been adopted. The coverlet was among her belongings. Of course, in the absence of facts, the mind makes things up. Was this a memento from her birth? In Ireland? As daughter perhaps to Jennie Munroe and adoped to take the Fowley name? Will I ever know? Probably not, but the search is on and I'm grateful if you'd join me in solving the mystery. What is Drumherriff House and where else can I go to find out? Thanks once again and I hope to hear again from you. Phyllis

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YWC.2ACI/5363.1 Message Board Post: Hello Phyllis, Does the coverlet include County Leitrim as the house's location? Do you have any geographic location for the Fowley or Monroe birth? I'm trying to find where the connection might be to County Leitrim as the house's location. Regards. Eilís O'Hara Ireland

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mulvanerty Mulvanaughty Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YWC.2ACI/3498.1 Message Board Post: Rose Ann is the younger sister of my grandmother Bridget (who also came to the US a few years earlier than Rose Ann). See one message I've posted on this board subject "Mulvanerty/Mulvanaghty and Burns in Leitrim mid-1800s". I'd love to hear what you have, and will send you what I have on our family. Dan

I am not sure if people have heard about the Counties Mayo and Clare having their 1838 Ordnance Survey maps placed online with free access to all (remotely), but I wrote to Leitrim Library and requested that the same be done with their web site. This is their reply: "Your query re putting 1837 OSI maps online. "Unfortunately this is not possible for the following reason:- "Some counties like Clare or Mayo have digitised these maps and now have them online but the only negotiations Leitrim have with OSI is to have these 1937 historical maps available online in our 9 branch libraries only for members of the public to physically visit the library and access the maps. Unfortunately remote access is not available." So for those of you who can make it to the library branches, you will be able to find these digitized and available. I don't know if there is a way they can be persuaded to renegotiate with OSI, but perhaps others who wish for remote access also need to write to the library and request this, too. Susan Daily

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mullally,Dwyer, Horan,Schleter,Manser Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/4402.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Lesley, Thankyou for your reply,they do have parents names and occupation and where they were born, but some before a certain time in 1800's they don't have much detail,I saw this somewhere on a site,don't remember which site, I will try and send away for my grandmother(Catherine Horan) birth certificate as that might say where her parents were born.If I don't have luck there,I will try the marriage certificate, if I get any additional info, I will let you know. Kind regards Barbara

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5332.1.2.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for the information. I have recieved news from a distant "cousin" today and the word from his line of the family states that Robert and Mary met on the ship to Canada and were married on board?? I have no idea where to start looking.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MONAGHAN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/4636.1.1 Message Board Post: MY GGRANDFATHER DID HAVE A BROTHER MICHAEL BUT I AM STUCK ON INFO ABOUT HIS FAMILY OR WHERE HE WAS BORN MAYBE WE CAN SHARE SOME INFO AND SEE WHERE WE GO MY E MAIL ADDRESS HAS CHANGED KITTYCONBOY@MSN.COM

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/4402.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Barbara, In Australia on birth certificates, do they have the parents names on them ? Is so that is one way you could find out her mothers name. I have managed to find alot of info from marriage and birth certificates. Name of grand and great grandparents. Please contact me and we may be able to sort out some info on the Mullally's. Regards Lesley

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YWC.2ACI/5365.1 Message Board Post: The mention of Drumboy got my attention quickly. Concerning the Michael and Catherine in Lockport, the ages are close but I have mine in RI arriving in NY in 1865. The family is well documented in the USA. The other surnames you listed do not appear anywheres in my family. Michael's parent's, Partrick Reynolds and Sarah Baxter do not come up with a McLaughlin relative anywhere. I really havent come up with much else in Ireland so I returned to US research on the family to see if I could learn any more about Ireland. Michael's and Catherein's second child was Annie. She married in the US in RI and I am in contact with her desendents. Michael had two siblings that I know of, Pa;trick and Bridget. Both died relatively young in RI. I wonder if the Anne you show is a sibling also? That would be interesting. I'll keep a copy of your posting in my computer in case I come up with any Anne information.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YWC.2ACI/5332.1.2.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Kathy The only records from Church sources are limited because to my knowledge most start with records around 1825 - 1835. For example Mohill Parish Church records start in 1836. Outside of the Tithe Survey 1833 listing only names of those who payed the Tithe . Keep in mind English goverment records did not start until Jan. 1864 for marriage and birth. The Griffths Survey of 1856 lists only occupiers of land. God Bless

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YWC.2ACI/5365 Message Board Post: Jack, The 1860 US Census for Lockport, Illinois, (a town with many Irish) shows a Michael Reynolds (40- born Ireland) with wife Catherine (34- born Ireland) and 7 children in ages from 17 years through 5 months. Children born Canada East, NY, and Illinois. My McLaughlins are from Drumboy and Bridget McLaughlin married my GGGrandfather, Thomas Devitt from Dergvone (north Leitrim) in Chicago in 1859. Thomas' brother Phelim married an Anne Reynolds in Chicago about 1863. I have always wondered if there were any connections with the Drumboy Reynolds since the Devitts knew the McLaughlins of Drumboy and they all lived fairly close to each other- within blocks. Don't know anything about Anne Reynolds.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YWC.2ACI/1463.1 Message Board Post: Hi Jean, I know this is a very old posting but I was wondering if you remember what records you looked at to get these records. I did a search by Carrigallen and didn't see any of these types of records. Karen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Reynolds, Baxter, Mcginnis Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YWC.2ACI/5332.1.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Kathy, I would like very much to find siblings of Catherine McGinnis but have not been able to do so, so far. I have only researched the souhern part of Co Leitrim. If I were you I would consider all forms of spelling of McGinnis. I checked my record of names I have taken off of film in So Co Leitrim but did not have your names. I have always had the feeling that my McGinnis family came from northern Ireland. That is just guess work, no evidence to back it up. On GV in Co Leitrim the family along with Reynolds and Baxter family appear to be the ones shown in Drumboy and adjacent townlands. My Michael Reynolds and Catherine were married in Mohill as stated but no childrens's baptismals show up in the area. I always wondered if they went north to her family to have the children. Once again only a guess, but based also on the fact that Michael's Mother Sarah Baxter's name is seen in the north. I will be on the look out for records of your Mary. It would be nice to pick up a relative. Jack

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McGinnis, Atkinson, Algeo Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5332.1.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Jack I noticed you are looking for a Catherine Mcginnis, I am looking for a Mary McGinnis(born about 1822) in Ireland married Robert Roy Atkinson and immigrated to Ontario Canada. I have been unable to find thier marriage as I believe they eloped, I have also been unable to find her family. Robert Roy is from Co Armaugh, I am wondering if my Mary could be an Aunt to your Catherine??