Susan, thank you for this site, I did bookmark it as you suggested. It appears to have a lot of information for me to review. JAck -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of cullivans@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 6:28 PM To: IRL-LEITRIM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEITRIM] Years Griffith's was Published by County This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5369.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Jack, You may want to bookmark this - funny I just posted about it today to the Beara (Cork, Ireland) list! http://www.sag.org.au/aisnltrs/AISN0410.pdf The last page has the list of when Griffith's surveys were published in each county. This is a newsletter that is published monthly (for free) by the Society of Australian Genealogists; their Irish research web site is at: http://www.sag.org.au/new/aisn.htm I think this is a good resource. Susan ==== IRL-LEITRIM Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, to change from L to D or from D to L, to contact the list administrator, to search the list's archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-LEITRIM.html ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Reynolds, McGinnis, Baxter Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5298.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.4.1 Message Board Post: Eilis, thank you again for all the information and effort you put into this posting. I printed out a copy so I can refer back to it for help. Over a year ago I located the marriage record of Michael Reynolds and Catherine McGinnis in Mohill, Co Leitrim and then hit a dead end. The Leitrim Historical Centre researched the children's records for me and found nothing and suggested"no further research in Leitrim." At that time I came back to USA research on the parents and the 8 Ireland and two RI born children. As you know that is a lot of work. The results have been good. RI archives and LDS films are very helpful. I am about three-quarters of the way through the vital records. It is complicated by the fact that the children quickly scattered around the USA. My grandfather came to NJ. It constantly surprises me how many civil and religous records in the US lack vital information, such as parents names, even up to 1900. There is not one mention in any of the records I have found so far of any location in Ireland other then the general term of"Ireland." I keep hoping that will change on the next record I find. By the way, I have determined the father, Michael, did not naturalize. I have found one son's papers in NARA so far and it just states "Ireland. " I intend to keep up the USA research because it has given me a good insite into this family.My Reynolds family in NJ knew very little about our RI Reynolds' so we enjoy all the new information I uncover. I alway enjoy reading your postings on this board. You are very generous with your help. Thanks again. Jack

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Reynolds, Mcginnis, Baxter Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5369.1.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Pat, thank you very much for this information. Jack

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Reynolds, McGinnis, Baxter Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5369.2.1 Message Board Post: Eilis, thank you for your reply. I had just learned of the "Limerock" location recently from newly found cousins and posted it to see if anyone else knew of it. I have received several good suggestions of places in RI and CT that we will check. The family went to CT and RI when they arrived in 1865. I dont live in that area so the name Limerock was not familiar to me. Thanks for you help. Jack

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YWC.2ACI/5369.2 Message Board Post: Hello Jack, Have you investigated the possibility that it's a location on the US side where some or all of the family members lived or lived near? Lime Rock, Connecticut first comes to mind but there may be other US locations of the same or similar name connected to them which was interpreted over there as their place of origin. None of the 34 post offices in Leitrim has a name similar or that could be broadly interpreted as such. There's also no other location that's even a possible interpretation. While there's a possibility it's County Limerick or Limerick City, the absence of any documentary connection as yet in the US for such a location would really preclude it at this point as a research location in Ireland. The 10 or so emigrants and their children's civil, church and other records (cemetery, wills, naturalisation, etc) in the US will hopefully provide the necessary links to the family members' town/townland, civil parish and county of origin location(s) here in Ireland. Regards. Eilís O'Hara Ireland

There is a Limerock in Rhode Island. It is a small village or part of the town of Lincoln, Rhode Island. Did they come to Rhode Island at all? Becky

Pete, Thanks for all the effort you put into the search for Limerock. Checking all those sources was a big help to me. I checked for Reynolds names in GV of Co Limerick and there are a few but nothing that looks promising. Michael and Catherine were married in Mohill, Co Leitrim in 1851 and the appear in USA in 1865 with 8 kids. Limestone beds in Leitrim is a good thought. Concerning the Lime Rock race track in CT, you don't know how close you came. You see the family landed in NY, moved to West Haven, CT for a short time, and stayed in Smithfield-Pawtucket, RI. By 1900 the children had scattered, a number of them to Bristol, New Haven and Bridgeport, CT. I am still working on vital records for them in that area. Thanks again Jack -----Original Message----- From: PeteScherm@aol.com [mailto:PeteScherm@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:28 PM To: IRL-LEITRIM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEITRIM] Re: Location or Post Office named Limerock Jack at daisy.pat@verizon.net writes: << family and children came from Limerock, a post office location. Does that name sound familiar to anybody? I'm starting my search on a Co Leitrim map. >> Jack, There is no townland or town of that name in Co. Leitrim (or anywhere else in Ireland). The Ordnance Survey's Gazetteer of Ireland, 1989, does not list Limerock (or anything like it - except for Limerick and Limerick Junction, of course) as a post office location in all of Ireland. The Archaeological Inventory of Co. Leitrim has a section listing "Local and Historical Names". Nothing like Limerock there, either. I wondered about the name being used locally in an area of lime kilns...... but there don't seem to be any in the county. I'll have to do some reading-up on lime kilns, as Leitrim is loaded with limestone and has no lime kilns, whereas mid-Cork has no limestone and dozens of lime kilns. So, I don't think I can be of much help. You may end up having to stick with the Limerick alternative. Sorry i couldn't find a Limerock for you. Would the Lime Rock racetrack in neighboring Connecticut be of interest to you <gr> ? ............................................................................ .. ... Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts ==== IRL-LEITRIM Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, to change from L to D or from D to L, to contact the list administrator, to search the list's archives: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-LEITRIM.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5369.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: According to James R Reilly's book, Richard Griffith and His Valuations of Ireland the GV was done in Co Leitrim in 1856 and 1857 as such: Ballyshannon Poor Law Union: Feb 20, 1857 Bawnboy PLU: Sep 15, 1856 Carrick-on-Shannon PLU: Oct 27, 1856 Manorhamilton PLU: Mar 16, 1857 Mohill PLU: Jan 30, 1857

Jack at daisy.pat@verizon.net writes: << family and children came from Limerock, a post office location. Does that name sound familiar to anybody? I'm starting my search on a Co Leitrim map. >> Jack, There is no townland or town of that name in Co. Leitrim (or anywhere else in Ireland). The Ordnance Survey's Gazetteer of Ireland, 1989, does not list Limerock (or anything like it - except for Limerick and Limerick Junction, of course) as a post office location in all of Ireland. The Archaeological Inventory of Co. Leitrim has a section listing "Local and Historical Names". Nothing like Limerock there, either. I wondered about the name being used locally in an area of lime kilns...... but there don't seem to be any in the county. I'll have to do some reading-up on lime kilns, as Leitrim is loaded with limestone and has no lime kilns, whereas mid-Cork has no limestone and dozens of lime kilns. So, I don't think I can be of much help. You may end up having to stick with the Limerick alternative. Sorry i couldn't find a Limerock for you. Would the Lime Rock racetrack in neighboring Connecticut be of interest to you <gr> ? .............................................................................. ... Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5369.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Jack, You may want to bookmark this - funny I just posted about it today to the Beara (Cork, Ireland) list! http://www.sag.org.au/aisnltrs/AISN0410.pdf The last page has the list of when Griffith's surveys were published in each county. This is a newsletter that is published monthly (for free) by the Society of Australian Genealogists; their Irish research web site is at: http://www.sag.org.au/new/aisn.htm I think this is a good resource. Susan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5369.1.1.1 Message Board Post: The Griffith's Valuation was done in County Limerick from 1850-1852. It was done in County Leitrim in 1856 and 1857. I checked the GV, not the index, and found many Michael Reynolds in Co Leitrim and like you, none in County Limerick but I wouldn't discount the county. Another thought is it might be a nickname for an area in Co. Leitrim and not a townland. Maybe Pete will run across your message, since it went also the the Leitrim mailing list and be able to help you out.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McKeon and Hamilton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5370 Message Board Post: Patrick McKeon and his wife Maria Ann Burke Hamilton lived in Avoca, Lucerne county, Pennsylvania in the 1850's and possibly before. I know they had one son name Patrick Bernard McKeon, who was born in Avoca and that is all I know about this family. Any info on other siblings to Patrick Bernard, or info of where they came from before Pennsylvania would be so appreciated. Thanks--Amy McKeon

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5369.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks Pat, Limerick certainly should be considered. I checked the Reynolds name in GV in Co. Limerick and found a few. No Michael which I would like to see. Only a John and a James is common in our family. However, not knowing when GV surveyed Limerick I really cant say how accurate the search is. Descendents of the original family born in Ireland have always talked of Co Leitrim. Other than the Marriage record in Leitrim, no other record has been found. Limerock is one of the words the family has kicked around with out really knowing more about it. Thanks again Jack

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5369.1 Message Board Post: Checking the 1851 townland index, I don't find Limerock in County Leitrim. Looks a lot like Limerick to me, which is in County Limerick or could even be the county itself.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YWC.2ACI/5298.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.4 Message Board Post: Hello Jack, With so many family members who emigrated to the US, I would advise doing additional research in their US civil and church records to find where the children were actually born in Ireland. MIchael Reynolds and Catherine McGinnis' marriage would have generally taken place in the bride's church, just as it does today. That wouldn't necessarily be the same location where the family lived or the children were born or of Michael Reynolds origination. With 8 children all born in Ireland, your best strategy would be to further research their civil and church records in the US as well as their children's. Their birth location(s) may be linked to their father's birth location. In other words, the couple may have settled where the father originated to live and raise their family. Once you've gathered all the information from US census records for Michael and Catherine, their children and their grandchildren, then civil and church records would be your next step for research. a) For Michael and Catherine look at: Their civil and church death records, tombstones, cemetery records, wills and Michael's US naturalisation records, especially the first papers which may have more detail than the final citizenship papers. Emigrants often remembered the family at home in their wills. I've even seen wills of emigrants in the US which included not only their relatives names in Ireland and locations where they lived but also all other family members who went to the US and their locations. b) There are eight children born in Ireland. Look at their civil and church marriage and death records, tombstones, cemetery records and wills. Did their local church require verification of their baptism information from the Irish church? Was a record kept? Was it noted in the parish register? Who were the sponsors -- were they other relations from the home area in Ireland? How did they become US citizens? Were they included on their father's naturalisation papers? If not, then that's another research source for each of them -- again the first papers which may include a specific birth location. c) The children's children, i.e. Michael and Catherine's grandchildren: You should also look at the civil and church records of the children of any of the eight children born in Ireland. Their civil and church birth, baptism, marriage and death records may include where their parents were born in Ireland. Griffiths Valuation can be very deceptive. Griffiths wasn't a census -- it was a property tax. It had a property valuation below which property wasn't listed. Not everyone is included in Griffiths. The occupiers listed in Griffiths don't include any family detail. Occupiers too sometimes sub-rented their holdings and those people aren't listed. People often occupied land in various areas just for farming and didn't necessarily live there. The immediate lessors could have lived anywhere also. Griffiths was done in the counties in Ireland in different years between 1848 and 1864 for different counties so it doesn't even have a time consistency. Someone could be an occupier in one location in one county in a certain year and be listed again as an occupier in a different location in a different county in a later Griffiths and so would show up in both locations. Without any ages or family connections in the Property Valuation it's difficult to establish identity. So! Griffiths can lead you to search for people in Ireland who in effect have no connection to your family. It's primarily useful is you already know where your ancestors originated and when they lived there and want to find the specific location of the land they farmed or leased since it includes the Name of the Civil Parish, No. and Letters of Reference to Map, Townlands and Occupier, Immediate Lessor, Description of Tenement [ House and Land ;Land; House and Garden, etc], Acres, Net Annual Value [Valuation]: Land, Buildings, + Total. See the thread on this board about the Globe Hotel so you're aware of some of the pitfalls of Griffiths: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/localities.britisles.ireland.let.general/5338 So you may also want to verify that the marriage you have for Michael and Catherine is actually yours by verifying that was Catherine's parish or home area of birth through her civil and church records in the US. I assume her parents names from her US records are the same? You need to establish links -- dates, parents names, locations -- to events/locations here from the US side. Best wishes in your research. Regards. Eilís O'Hara Ireland

I had looked. I had seen that rental house. I don't believe it is Drumherriff House. Perhaps but there's nothing on the site to indicate a connection. -- Searching my Nova Scotia family: Swallow, Henwood, Noiles, all varieties of Veinot, Jefferson, Greenlaw, Stillman/Dillman, and Pottles of Perry, Maine -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: lmd420@hotmail.com > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5366 > > Message Board Post: > > A very simple search immediately turned up a Drumherriff Lodge in Drumshanbo>>> > http://www.iol.ie/~dec/gunning/ > > It's amazing what can be found on the web if we only bother to look > > > ==== IRL-LEITRIM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, to change from L to D or from D to L, to contact the list > administrator, to search the list's archives: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-LEITRIM.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Reynolds, McGinnis, Baxter Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5369 Message Board Post: Email from a cousin states that talk from long ago mentioned that the Michael Reynolds and Catherine McGinnis family and children came from Limerock, a post office location. Does that name sound familiar to anybody? I'm starting my search on a Co Leitrim map. Any thought would be appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McGovern, Hargaden Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YWC.2ACI/5368 Message Board Post: I found in the Boston Passenger List 1820-1943 on ancestry.com the following info: Passenger McGovern Bernard, 24, m, S, Labr., Mohill ,Mohill Co Letrim visited Mother Mrs J Hargaden, passenger lives in Roxbury On the next line: Passenger Hargaden Edward, 24 ,m, S ,Labr. ,Mohill, Mohill Co Letirim This is not my family. I have no other info.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: NEWELL Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/YWC.2ACI/966.1031.3366 Message Board Post: hello My Name is Sarah E Newell My GGrandfather was from Ireland I think Poss Rosscommon??? David Newell B ABT 1869 I don't know where else to look????? Can you help me PLEASE> Sarah Newell

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YWC.2ACI/5367 Message Board Post: The 1901 Irish Census for County Leitrim as well as other county information is available for research online at http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/index.shtml Regards. Eilís O'Hara Ireland