This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mulvanerty Sweeney Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5352.1.2 Message Board Post: This was sent to me by Leitrim geneologist Roger McDonnel: It took me awhile and I was down to the very last search possibility but I believe I found your family. John was listed as 25 rather than 18. The family was living with your great-great grandmother Mary Mulvanerty who was 99. Knockacullion is a townland consisting of 1740 acres. Knockacullion is near Slieve Anierin mountain about 6 miles west of the Co. Cavan border. The closest town is Drumshanbo which is probably 10 miles to the southwest. Let me know if you have further questions. Roger McDonnell Knockacullion Oughteragh Carrigallen Leitrim Household Mulvanerty Margaret(99) farmer/widow Terence Sweeney(50) son in law/farmer-Mary Sweeney(50) dtr.-Patrick Sweeney(30) gs-John Sweeney(25) gs-Terence Sweeney(18) gs-Joseph Sweeney(11) gs

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mulvanerty Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5352.1.1 Message Board Post: You may find this interesting. Not sure if it was posted on the message board. A researcher sent it to me: I saw your posting regarding your Mulvanerty family. I have been collecting records for Blessings and Mulvanertys in Leitrim (Mulvanerty is the gaelic form of Blessing) since my great grandmother was Bridget Blessing born in Leitrim. I came across some info on your family. Margaret Mulvanerty's husband's name was Philip Mulvanerty. His name on his death record is recorded as Phil Blessing. Phil Blessing died on February 4, 1885 of old age. His age was 84 and he lived in Knockacullion. He was a farmer and the informant on his death record was Mary Sweeney (daughter) who also lived in Knockacullion. Margaret Mulvanerty died on January 14, 1905 of old age. Her age is recorded as 99. Her name is recorded on her death record as Margaret Blessing and she lived in Knockacullen (spelling on record). The informant was Mary Sweeney (daughter) who lived in Knockacullen. Marriage record of Mary Mulvanety and Terence Sweeny (surname spellings as recorded on marriage certificate: married in the R.C. Chapel of Aughnasheilan on January 29, 1866. Terence lived in Derrien and Mary lived in Knockacullion prior to their marriage. Terence was a labourer and Mary was a farmer's daughter. Terence's father was Terence Sweeny (farmer) and Mary's father was Philip Mulvanety (farmer). The marriage witnesses were Terence Sweeny & Bridget McSweeney. They were married by Rev. Patrick Galligan.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mulvanerty Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5352.1 Message Board Post: I too am working on Mulvanerty in Leitrim, but I don't have a connection yet to your Margaret. If you do find out more about her Mulvanerty side please contact me. According to what I've seen, the 1856 Griffith's Valuation of Leitrim has 21 Mulvanerty entries in Leitrim. 11 of them are in the civil parish of Oughterragh, which is where your Margaret is listed in the 1901 census (by the way, of the remaining 10, 4 are in Kiltubbrid, 4 in Fenagh, and 2 in Kiltoghert if that distribution is meaningful to anybody).

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YWC.2ACI/5369.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello Jack, Your previous post about finding Lime Rock in Rhode Island was apparently deleted from the Message Board as was my reply about researching in the area so in the event you didn't see it here's the content: **************** Glad to hear that mystery was solved. The family then should be included in that location in their census records. It's part of the Town of Lincoln which I believe is in Providence County. If you look at Mapquest http://www.mapquest.com and just enter Lime Rock and RI as the state you'll see it and the various locations around it. Zoom in for more detail. Since it's part of the Town of Lincoln which has civil registration records, you may be able to get more detailed records for the family there. The local Town Clerk or Town Historian may be able to provide the contact information for the local RC Church too. The Town Historian may also have information from local cemeteries where family members might be buried or even cemetery records or tombstone inscriptions for the cemeteries. Local governmental jurisdictions would also be sources for any of the other locations where the family lived from the US census or other records and may similarly be able to provide local information and contact details for historians, churches, etc. **************** I failed to include in the above reply that the area is part of the Diocese of Providence (RI) which has a website with local church information so you can contact the local church(es) for further detail on your family's church baptism, marriage and death records as well as cemetery records. There are churches in Lincoln which is nearby Lime Rock and you'd just have to determine when the churches were established to be sure of finding the one(es) that may have been there when your family lived in the area: http://www.dioceseofprovidence.org/ Regards. Eilís O'Hara Ireland

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5372.1 Message Board Post: Hello Jack, Glad to hear that mystery was solved. The family then should be included in that location in their census records. It's part of the Town of Lincoln which I believe is in Providence County. If you look at Mapquest http://www.mapquest.com and just enter Lime Rock and RI as the state you'll see it and the various locations around it. Zoom in for more detail. Since it's part of the Town of Lincoln which has civil registration records, you may be able to get more detailed records for the family there. The local Town Clerk or Town Historian may be able to provide the contact information for the local RC Church too. The Town Historian may also have information from local cemeteries where family members might be buried or even cemetery records or tombstone inscriptions for the cemeteries. Local governmental jurisdictions would also be sources for any of the other locations where the family lived from the US census or other records and may similarly be able to provide local information and contact details for historians, churches, etc. Best wishes in your search. Regards. Eilís O'Hara Ireland

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5298.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.4.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello Jack, Glad to hear the parents names for Michael and Catherine McGinnis from their US records matched the parents names for the Leitrim marriage even though there's no location connection for them as yet here from their US records. There could have been several marriages of Michael Reynolds and Catherine McGinnis (and the surname variations) in any location in Ireland during the time period prior to their children's births. The State Archives or NARA wouldn't have all the local town/village civil records information from the towns or villages where they lived in the US nor are much of any US RC church records computerised or available anywhere but the local church. So the lack of information in the State Archives about the RI born children's births isn't surprising. So you need to contact the local governmental jurisdictions and local RC churches where they lived to look for more detailed information rather than concentrating on the US national and state records as I previously mentioned. (See additional information I've posted on that for your "Lime Rock" location). Name density charts and Griffiths in Ireland aren't complete records of where everyone lived for various reasons. So while they can be used somewhat as a guide, without a specific connection to a location from their US records, they're best used when the locations here are known from their US information. The US census records include "number of years here" or immigration dates so you can verify that through the census. The family should also be in the US 1870 census as well as the census records subsequent to 1900. All the census records included naturalisation information for all family members. The 1900 US census and 1910 should be especially helpful with that detail. Because naturalisation was a multi-step process, all the records in the process need to be reviewed. Those first or initial papers can be very helpful in your search. Another source which I didn't include in my previous list of research sources is obituaries. If Annie told her children she was from (I assume born in) Leitrim, there may be mentioned in her obit or even a birth location or her siblings obits. Regards. Eilís O'Hara Ireland

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YWC.2ACI/5371.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: The only name I have of this family is JAMES ALFRED KELLY. I don't know who is parents were or if there were any siblings. I do have his military record that states he was born in Mohill. At the time of his enlistment he gave his age as 19 yrs. and this was in 1858. In the 1881 census in England he stated he was born in 1838. Thanks again and I will have to study the film again. Kate

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YWC.2ACI/5371.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Kate, I have a copy of that flm at my FHC. If you want to, send me the names involved and possible dates and I will take a look at it this week or next. I repeat that if you learn some of the few latin terms involved and the spelling of some Latin names you should pick up skill in reading them . The foremat is pretty much the same in each. Jack

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YWC.2ACI/5371.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you Jack for your response and suggestions. The film number is 1279224 Items 1-3. Once again I appreciate your effort, Have a great day!!! Kate

Why was the film hard to read? Language, unfamiliar handwriting in an old-time script. or was the original simply too smudged and moldy to read, as some I have seen from Kilkenny? I took pictures under the reader, (no printer available) and cleaned them up in Photoshop (mainly brightness and contrast) Some were improved, but some were too far gone. Good luck.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5298.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.4.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello Eilis, When I got into this research I knew only my grandfather's name and his younger brother and that they were from RI. I quickly found the family on the 1880 census confirmed by the age of my Grandfather and the town they lived in. I did then and still do review census record in order to fill in the family. Next I looked througfh City Directories in RI and searched the Civil death records until I found both persons records. Each record contained the parents names and just Ireland as the birth place. I havent been able to locate any church records and I have looked at a lot of churches. Next I found through a name density chart that there were a lot of Reynolds in Co Leitrim. I also consulted the Ireland householders index and Griffith's Valuation and found a Michael Reynolds in Drumboy and the other Grandparents names there or close by. The marriage record of Michael and Catherine was found quickly. Just last month I made contact with decendents of the second daughter, Annie who are researching also.Their Grandmother Annie had always told the family that she was from Co Leitrim. Together with their information and mine and the children's ages I feel good that I have the correct marriage. I agree with you that the children could have been born in different places. I reviewed on Ancestry the England and Wales 1861 census.Annie and 7 children left Liverpool in 1865. Michael died just months before the 1900 census. I have reviewed two seperate Providence County courts, RI naturalization record films of appropiate dates and found nothing.The county records had a lot of personel information. On a NARA index film I found several possiblities for the male children. I sent for Frank and it appears to be his papers. I learned nothing from the sparce information listed. After reading your note I am going to ask NARA if they sent me the entire record or is there any other record available. I have to do more work in this area on the children. Your right about doing a through search in the US, I learned a lot about this family, their deaths, travels and a lot more. I feel good about finding this information. Finding two lost cousins has added a lot. We have exchange pictures, etc. They sent me a picture of my Father when he was a boy that must have been sent up to them. At your suggestion I am going to look at the Civil registration for John born in early 1865. I have doubts about this family's registration practice because there is no record of the last boys born in RI. Even the state Archives admitted that. As I said before, you are very generous with your knowledge. Thank you.I have recieived a lot of good ideas and leads from researchers like you. Jack

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5371.1 Message Board Post: Kate, What is the film number you were looking at? If I have a copy in the FHC I visit I will take a look for you. It is most likely written in Latin and the FHC should have a Latin-English word list to help you. Once you get familiar with it, it gets a easier to understand. Also look on the internet for the Leitrim Genealogy Centre and see what they offer. They have a subscription service that will do research for you. Jack

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Reynolds, McGinnis, Baxter Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5372 Message Board Post: Thanks to the many email posting and in particular information from Becky the location of Limerock is in Rhode Island after all. My cousin who was looking for the location agrees. This helps pin down the family's location. Thanks again for all the help. Jack

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: kelly Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YWC.2ACI/5371 Message Board Post: Looking for a birth record of JAMES ALFRED KELLY . He was born in Mohill,Leitrim county around 1838. I ordered the records from the family history center in my area but found that the records were very difficult to read.Any help in finding these records in better shape would greatly be appreciated. Thank you Kate

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/5298.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.4.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello Jack, Did you find Catherine McGinnis and Michael Reynolds place of birth and parents names from their US civil and church records to find the marriage in Leitrim or did you look first in Leitrim for the marriage and family because it's where your family in the US believes it's where they originated? You'll generally find in the US that state and county civil records weren't all that detailed in the Nineteenth Century. If they lived in a township/town or village, there are generally also civil records for those locations which I find are much more detailed. The US census records chronicled naturalisation in each listing so I assume you checked those. I've found that NARA doesn't necessarily have all the naturalisation records. They're generally in the county court house of the county where the emigrant lived when he/she applied for citizenship although some of the them applied in nearby counties if the county seat for their county was a further distance and the county seat for a nearby county was closer. The records are primarily in the county courthouse but some counties moved the records to county archives so it can be a very locally individual thing. If you just looked at the final citizenship papers for Michael's one son, they may not have the detail included in the first papers -- the original citizenship application. I've seen naturalisation records from the end of the Nineteenth Century and early Twentieth Century that even include height, hair and eye colour, specific location of birth in Ireland and the ship the emigrants traveled on to the US. I research Irish emigrants in the US also so I have some familiarity with the amount of work involved and the variety of information, or lack thereof, you might encounter. That's why there are so many resources that need to be checked which I listed in my previous post. I've spent hours and days sitting on the floor in US courthouse basements going through unfiled naturalisation records just piled everywhere on the floor in no date or alpha order. Or copying every entry for a surname for 100 years in a town or village clerk's office. So I understand the amount of work that cen be involved in the process. The benefits of completing the US research is that you know you're researching the right people based on the parental and place connections in the records. They're actually your family members and you're gathering valuable information about them. They're not just some possible connection based on incomplete surname lists or hearsay about a location here. And I'm sure with the number of Irish born who emigrated you'll be successful in finding ther information in one of the US records sources. Have you checked the Index of Irish Civil Registrations microfilm for a record of the child born in 1865 to see if the birth was registered? Civil registration started in 1864, compliance wasn't complete in the early years and the family may not have wanted to pay the fee to register the birth if they were leaving but it would be worth a look to see if it's there. There's also the possibility the children were born in different places here depending on where Michael could find employment. Regards. Eilís O'Hara Ireland

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/368.1490.1668.1 Message Board Post: my grgrgrandfather hugh farmer was born apr. 10,1814 in jamestown co leitrim.i don't know the parents names----but i think he had a brother patrick born 1810 and possibly james and more. does anyone have any informatiom on them ? hugh came to lawrence ,mass. apr.26,1846 with his wife ann(age abt. 28 yr) and daughter mary ann an infant. thanks lillian minicozzi

Does anyone know the name and address of the Catholic Church in the townland of Corracloona, Co Leitrim, Cloonclare Parish? I am trying to obtain the baptismal record for Bernard Keany, born June 24, 1830. Any information will be appreciated. Thank you, Rose

Rose, I don't believe there is a church in corracloona townland - there is an ancient megalithic tomb/cairn there, but that is not what you seek. I think the closest church may have been in Kiltyclogher town which is not far from Corracloona. I've been on a website that lists births/baptisms in Co. Leitrim held by the Leitrim Heritage Centre, and the earliest Bernard Keany baptism would be in 1841, eleven years after your Bernard. In all likelihood there isn't a record for your Bernard's birth/baptism, unless he really was stretching the truth about his age later in life. Perhaps there were other Keany families living in that area from which you might find information about your Keany family. Good luck in your search. Bill Bray in Virginia

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