Ray at [email protected] writes: << Does anyone know where DRUMERY Townland is? >> Ray, I think that you'd be better-off with a single Drummury townland than all of those Drumany ones. Drummury is about 3 miles due east of Dromahair town, in Killanummery civil parish. It's also just a mile east of Killarga. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Does anyone know where DRUMERY Townland is? I think it is likely not DRUMERY but DRUMANY. * The LANDLORDS were William Rowley and Lady De Clifford in 1806/7. Which one of the half dozen might it be ? Which Parish or Barony is it in ? Ray

Hi Ray, This e-mail concerns the Dobson's and the Will of James Dobson of Gortfodda. I am very interested since the given names match my Dobson's. My Matthew Dobson from Mohill married Catherine "Kate" Cahill of the Loch Gowna (formerly known as Scrabby) area of County Cavan. Descendants live in Forthill, Arva, County Cavan today and I was told that Kate and Matthew lived on this same farm. They had several children but I can only account for four: Rose, my great grandmother, born in 1845 and baptized in St. Columba's Church, Mullinalaghta, County Longford Michael, married Mary Anne Sorahan- raised the family in Forthill John, married Margaret Mulligan- raised the family in Forthill George, emigrated to England Matthew converted to Catholicism. I was told he had been a Presbyterian. I don't know anything else so I wouldn't know whether he was a QM Sergeant in the Leitrim Militia. I have repeated information I already told you since I'm putting this on the Leitrim site which I should have done yesterday. I would definitely be interested in any other details you would have on these Dobson's. All the best, Colleen

Hello Colleen, I think this is a good place to start; I tried to read the entry but it probably needs a second look by someone; Will of James Dobson of Gortfodda 1739 - 1810 Gortfodda Book 551, p171, No.362647 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------14/1/1800 .......between Jas. Dobson No.2 of Gortfodda + Micheal Dobson son of Matthew Dobson of Coremore in Parish of Mallymacalany, Co. Cavan weaver of the other part ~ ~ James Dobson for the ~ ~ therein ~ ~ did demise Grant set and to farm Let ~ ~ S Micheal Dobson his heir and that of one half of Gortfodda No. 2 occupied by James Duke Land Surveyor which contains in the whole 11 acres 2 rods and 13 perches be the same ~ ~ ~ 1 half of dwelling house ---- 25/3/ ~ ~ for natural life ~ ~ Mrs Dobson youngest son, but one of Nic [Nicholas ?] Dobson No. 4 Gortfodda aforesaid ? Aged about 10(?) years on the term of 21 whichever shall largest ~ 1st he ~ ~ ~ Micheal Dobson his heirs ~ ~ ~ yielding and paying therefore and thereout yearly and ~ year during the S demise ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Jolan his heirs and a ~ the clear yearly rent of £4 2s 6d to be paid by even and equal half yearly payments on every 29th September and 25th March in every year dear over and above All named of ~ and due positions wha! tsoever as by SD died. Cant, fsirl other Cavn Clauses condit................. 14 June 1802 If your MATTHEW DOBSON is not the one above who became a QM Sergeant in the Leitrim Militia, but otherwise was landless to my knowledge. He may have been his son. I have taken up the Dobson's as a one name study because information is hard to come by and it is a rare Irish surname. My interest is in FRANCIS DOBSON and their inevitable relationship with the PARKE family of the Ballinamore area. I am very confused by what sect of Christianity the Dobson's followed; I have seen evidence that states that they were Huguenots and settled in Leitrim. However, there appears to be a lot of RC's in the local records. My own line appear very Anglican and ambitious, in the sense that they had aspirations to the Clergy and a possible Bishop among their ranks. The common recurring name PARKE DOBSON suggests that this could be true. A DOBSON family in Edgeworthstown who owned Leases in Gortfodda, Mohill followed a medical bent one ending up as a Zoologist of note and another the local Medical Officer, Registrar et cetera. There father was most likely an Apprenticed Doctor back in the early C19th. The wealth of the Dobson's appears to be due to there being the local Miller on the Crofton Estate. They were probably brought on the Estate from England for that purpose. DOBSON sometimes is spelt DOPSON and can be dated back to 1723 in Mohill in the Edgeworth Papers as three families who received Anglican Prayer Books and Tracts. The sectarian discrepancy may be due to intermarriage between RC's and Anglican's prior to the 1830's. It is clear that families lived in dense mixed communities and it would not have looked after and fed each others children, and helped each other out even if their status may have been different. I think there may have always been some animosity towards the common landlords. I feel what may have happened that if someone saw a pretty local girl they would have married them, perhaps the sectarianism of the mid C19th century was not too important to people. If your mother and grandmother were RC it was not too surprising that they would change denom! ination when religious toleration was relaxed. You say that Matthew converted to a Presbyterian from RC in Cavan that surprises me in the sense that he was Presbyterian as there are no others I have heard of. I did here of an Orangeman in Westmeath with the surname THOMPSON, I can only think he was a migrant from Ulster. The politics of Leitrim and Longford was not that extreme. I did have a grandfather who was a Free Mason but, he always said it was an insurance policy in case he was ill or died for his family. The surname DOBSON is only really located in Leitrim at Mohill. One son had become a Customs Officer in the late 1700's and may be one reason for the later wider dispersal of the Surname. DOBSON is quite a rare surname located to the north of England and a few in the Scottish Midlands, it is quite possible that it is a Huguenot family if the dates agreed just as THOMSON is a French name. I have other details if you are interested Ray

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/4999 Message Board Post: A |etter written on 17th Oct 1902 refers to a Colonel Story of Letrim, stationed at Belturbet, in 1780 /90 who met a relative of very small stature (5ft - 7ins) and describes how he changed the spelling of his name from "Storey" to "Story" and regretted it all his life. I would welcome any data on this Story Family, particularly their origins.

I am seeking further information on the THOMPSON, HOWARD, DOBSON, SHANLY, PARKE and COWAN's of baronies of Mohill and Longford, especially the area straddling the County Borders. These FAMILIES have a history of inter-relations in BOTH Counties - and perhaps deeper into Longford. MOHILL WILLIAM THOMPSON b.1766 of Mohill [Corporal in Militia] and Farmer of Rooskey townland of Mohill JOHN THOMPSON Farmer of Rooskey townland of Mohill C1800 JAMES THOMPSON Farmer of Rooskey townland of Mohill C1807 + THOMAS THOMPSON Farmer of Rooskey townland of Mohill C1833 JAMES THOMPSON Farmer of Rooskey townland of Mohill C1833 + WILLIAM THOMPSON Farmer of Rooskey townland of Mohill C1833 + JOHN THOMPSON Farmer of Rooskey townland of Mohill C1833 + FRANCIS DOBSON Farmer of Rosharry & Drunboy [later of Gortfodda]townland of Mohill C1833 + [I have collected quite a lot on Matthew Dobson who at one time [1790's] lived in Co. Cavan - possible cousin] CLOONE JOHN THOMPSON Farmer of Clooncumber townland of Cloone C1833 + JAMES THOMPSON Farmer of Clooncumber townland of Cloone C1833 + RICHARD HOWARD Farmer of Clooncumber townland of Cloone C1833 + UNKNOWN Miss SHANLY possibly from Newtonforbes or Mohill who married WILLIAM THOMPSON of Mohill about 1824 ish CLONGISH & NEWTONFORBES WILLIAM HOWARD Farmer or Weaver of Derrenneil townland of Clongish BEF 1820 & his known sons Richard and Robert. THOMPSON / HOWARD / COWAN (C of I) MARRIAGES generally in northern & central Longford - invite suggestions. Ray

I HAVE MALONE-HESLIN -CHELSEA-DENNING TRES files all have these people but i dont always update the info i was supposed to put the name there but i forgot In a message dated 7/15/2004 5:31:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > Jim , thanks for reply. Could I have received an incomplete message as no > WILLIAMSON in text sent.? > Cheers , > Sue in LLantrisant Glamorgan. > > I am interested in the Campbell in your David Campbell Williamson. > > I have Williamsons from Biggar Lanarkshire Scotland , > > James WILLIAMSON 1784 or 1794. > There, I gather are Campbells in the TREE which I cannot find. > Any Information would be welcomed. > Cheers > Sue in LLantrisant Wales UK > John <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> <A HREF="mailto:[email protected],West">[email protected],West</A> Lothian, Scotland,[email protected],West Lothian, Scotland,[email protected] Haven [email protected] Chelsea <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]"> [email protected]</A> Ma.,1876- <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> Ma.,1885abt-son of Michael MALONE & Ann LAVIN wed Bridget <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> [email protected],West Lothian, Scotland,[email protected] Linlithgow,West Lothian, Scotland,[email protected] Haven [email protected] Chelsea [email protected] Ma.,1876- [email protected] Ma.,[email protected] Williams Street,chelsea,ma.1897 dau of Brian HESLIN & Catherine WILLIAMSON they have Bernard MALONE 29 Oct [email protected],West Lothian, [email protected],West Lothian, Scotland,1867- Mary l. MALONE 1 Aug 1874 @Chelsea [email protected] Ma.1874- Ann MALONE14 Dec [email protected],West Lothian, [email protected],West Lothian, Scotland,1869- John M. MALONE 2 Feb [email protected] Haven Conn-7 Aug 1874 @1yr,6mns, 5dys ,Scarlett Fever,Chelsea Ma.,[email protected] Haven [email protected] Ma.,1874- James HenryMALONE27 Aug [email protected] Ma.,-6 Apr [email protected] cross cemetery ,42 nwalnut,2 west,malden [email protected] Ma.,1876- Catherine AdelaideMALONE17 Jun [email protected],Ma.1869abt-Brighton,[email protected] 89 ,AcadamyNursing Home Acadamy Hill Rd14 Mar 1969 14 Mar [email protected] , Ma,Holy Cross [email protected],[email protected], Ma1869abt- Charles [email protected] Ma.,@79 Long Island,Boston,Ma.-11 Jun [email protected],Ma,Holy Cross Cemetery [email protected] Ma.,1885abt- StillbornMALONE Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list Jim Denning

I HAVE MALONE-HESLIN -CHELSEA-DENNING TRES files all have these people but i dont always update the info i was supposed to put the name there but i forgot In a message dated 7/15/2004 5:31:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > John [email protected] [email protected],West Lothian, > Scotland,[email protected],West Lothian, Scotland,[email protected] Haven [email protected] Chelsea > [email protected] Ma.,1876- [email protected] Ma.,1885abt-son of Michael MALONE & Ann > LAVIN > wed > Bridget [email protected] [email protected],West Lothian, Scotland,[email protected] > Linlithgow,West Lothian, Scotland,[email protected] Haven [email protected] Chelsea > [email protected] Ma.,1876- [email protected] Ma.,[email protected] Williams > Street,chelsea,ma.1897 dau of Brian HESLIN & Catherine WILLIAMSON > they have > Bernard MALONE 29 Oct [email protected],West Lothian, > [email protected],West Lothian, Scotland,1867- > Mary l. MALONE 1 Aug 1874 @Chelsea [email protected] Ma.1874- > Ann MALONE14 Dec [email protected],West Lothian, [email protected],West > Lothian, Scotland,1869- > John M. MALONE 2 Feb [email protected] Haven Conn-7 Aug 1874 @1yr,6mns, 5dys > ,Scarlett Fever,Chelsea Ma.,[email protected] Haven [email protected] Ma.,1874- > James HenryMALONE27 Aug [email protected] Ma.,-6 Apr [email protected] cross > cemetery ,42 nwalnut,2 west,malden [email protected] Ma.,1876- > Catherine AdelaideMALONE17 Jun [email protected],Ma.1869abt-Brighton,[email protected] 89 > ,AcadamyNursing Home Acadamy Hill Rd14 Mar 1969 14 Mar [email protected] , Ma,Holy > Cross [email protected],[email protected], Ma1869abt- > Charles [email protected] Ma.,@79 Long Island,Boston,Ma.-11 Jun > [email protected],Ma,Holy Cross Cemetery [email protected] Ma.,1885abt- > StillbornMALONE > > > Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list Jim Denning

Dear List, I am looking for information about Michael and Rose Darcy (later Dorsey). According to their death certificates they were born in County Leitrim, Michael about 1835 and Rose about 1825. (Not sure how accurate these dates are.) They emmigrated to America and their first child, Mary was born in Chicago about 1856.Their first son was named John.Their other children were Michael, Thomas and Hugh. Any information would be appreciated, Beverly

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/3938.3947.1.2 Message Board Post: There is still a beautifully restored old house at Stralohan, I have some photos of it as my Parsons ansestors owned it at one time. Curramahon (Corramahon, like Stralohan it has several spelling variations). Curramahon is south of Stralohan between Stralohan and Lough Garadise, closer to Lough Garadise than to Stralohan, as my ancestors also had land and a house there I have a recent picture of it but it is only of rolling farmland, all the old buildings have gone. PS I am descended from the Parsons family mentioned in the letter.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: DUNNE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/4851.1.1 Message Board Post: Karen; My John Walter DUNNE (1892-1976) came to NYC in 1912. He had 2 brothers, Frederick who died as a child and Robert (1891 per 1901 census) who also came to NY, and 4 sisters. Their father was Charles(abt 1845 per census), married to Elizabeth Middleton (dead by 1901 census) and I believe Charles' father was Robert (per Griffith's Valuation, only Dunne in Mullagh, Dromahaire) . I have Joe Dunne's book, DUNNE PEOPLE AND PLACES and do not see any Walters listed. Will keep your info in my file, in case I ever find any more information. Not having too much luck.

In a message dated 7/13/2004 1:53:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I am interested in the Campbell in your David Campbell Williamson. > > I have Williamsons from Biggar Lanarkshire Scotland , > > James WILLIAMSON 1784 or 1794. > There, I gather are Campbells in the TREE which I cannot find. > Any Information would be welcomed. > Cheers > Sue in LLantrisant Wales UK > John [email protected] [email protected],West Lothian, Scotland,[email protected],West Lothian, Scotland,[email protected] Haven [email protected] Chelsea [email protected] Ma.,1876- [email protected] Ma.,1885abt-son of Michael MALONE & Ann LAVIN wed Bridget [email protected] [email protected],West Lothian, Scotland,[email protected] Linlithgow,West Lothian, Scotland,[email protected] Haven [email protected] Chelsea [email protected] Ma.,1876- [email protected] Ma.,[email protected] Williams Street,chelsea,ma.1897 dau of Brian HESLIN & Catherine they have Bernard MALONE 29 Oct [email protected],West Lothian, [email protected],West Lothian, Scotland,1867- Mary l. MALONE 1 Aug 1874 @Chelsea [email protected] Ma.1874- Ann MALONE14 Dec [email protected],West Lothian, [email protected],West Lothian, Scotland,1869- John M. MALONE 2 Feb [email protected] Haven Conn-7 Aug 1874 @1yr,6mns, 5dys ,Scarlett Fever,Chelsea Ma.,[email protected] Haven [email protected] Ma.,1874- James HenryMALONE27 Aug [email protected] Ma.,-6 Apr [email protected] cross cemetery ,42 nwalnut,2 west,malden [email protected] Ma.,1876- Catherine AdelaideMALONE17 Jun [email protected],Ma.1869abt-Brighton,[email protected] 89 ,AcadamyNursing Home Acadamy Hill Rd14 Mar 1969 14 Mar [email protected] , Ma,Holy Cross [email protected],[email protected], Ma1869abt- Charles [email protected] Ma.,@79 Long Island,Boston,Ma.-11 Jun [email protected],Ma,Holy Cross Cemetery [email protected] Ma.,1885abt- StillbornMALONE Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list Jim Denning

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/216.801 Message Board Post: I am interested in the Campbell in your David Campbell Williamson. I have Williamsons from Biggar Lanarkshire Scotland , James WILLIAMSON 1784 or 1794. There, I gather are Campbells in the TREE which I cannot find. Any Information would be welcomed. Cheers Sue in LLantrisant Wales UK

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dunne Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YWC.2ACI/4851.1 Message Board Post: My Grnadfather on my mother's side was Walter William Dunne and I just found out he was born in 1897 in Black Rock, New York which is a area in Buffalo, New York. I am waiting for his death cert to see if there is any additional information on his parents names. He lived in Waterbury Connecticut, where he married my grandmother Kathleen A.Carroll, they had 2 daughters, Mary Margaret and Frances Dunne. They moved to the great Hartford area. I think he had some brothers. I will let you know when I get additional information...Thanks...

Sorry, oldgrinch, but apparently the user/pass for infoweb is dead. Perhaps, someone has a new one or you could access it from your local library. I checked Griffith's and did not find any Torpey listings for Leitrim (at least not with that spelling). I also tried the 1901 Census at the L-R site and came up empty-handed for Torpey. There was, however, a William Torphy (60) in the 1901 Census in Corramahan, Drumreilly. Sorry <snip> > >______________________________ >X-Message: #2 >Date: 10 Jul 2004 22:03:35 -0600 >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: Leitrim Obits from Chicago- YOU will find connections >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Surnames: Torpey >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/4827.1 > >Message Board Post: > >Larry, > >I found your note and tried to access Leitrim obits link and it didn't >work. My GGrandmother, Rose Torpey, and her brother Matthew Torpey, came >from Leitrim. Iam trying to find more info on them. I have found their >obits in Chicago but am trying to find their parents. Any help would be >greatly appreciated. _________________________________________________________________ Get tips for maintaining your PC, notebook accessories and reviews in Technology 101. http://special.msn.com/tech/technology101.armx

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Names Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/4942.3 Message Board Post: Could you please send me the list you have as I am researching a family called NAMES in Leitrim and am running up against brick walls. Hoping there is something in it for me Regards, Peter.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Torpey Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/4827.1 Message Board Post: Larry, I found your note and tried to access Leitrim obits link and it didn't work. My GGrandmother, Rose Torpey, and her brother Matthew Torpey, came from Leitrim. Iam trying to find more info on them. I have found their obits in Chicago but am trying to find their parents. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BALL TURNER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/4998 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on a SARAH BALL who came from Ireland to Lancashire, England. She had a child with a WILLIAM TURNER, not sure if married the child was named WILLIAM TURNER he was born on 10.03.1916, in Rochdale, Lancashire. He ran away from his family home when he was about 14, can anyone help me please to find these people and their families

Hi! I went and searched and searched-- finally I have found a internet phone book of Ireland. I like it so much I thought I'd share it with you. It is called: http://www.goldenpages.ie/extra/phonebook.html It is missing the County Armagh. But it has all the other counties. All you have to do is put in the last name into the surname box. (skip the initial box) for example Powderly (rare name) Then choose a country for example Meath. Then a page will come up and show you your results. The address of everyone with that last name. Sometimes sending a letter to the people in Ireland with the same last name works in your favor. If you are looking for names in America - try www.swithboard.com good luck. Ms. Darcy Freeman

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